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Ken Strickland
June 21st, 2011
9:30 pm
OBRIEN-Are you saying LDrew should continue giving Sy the Teague treatment and just ignore him because of the extremely limited mins he played last yr. Based on that, no rookie would ever get to play, since 32mins are more than anyone coming out of college has played on this level. Maybe you only saw him play 32mins, but I saw him play a couple of summer league as well as D-league gms.
Tell me, exactly how much does one need to see of a player to assess his willingness and ability to play DEF? There’s certainly no shortage of individuals who are convinced that certain 2nd rd college players with (0)zero experience will be successful. And I didn’t say he deserves regular playing time. I said his unique size/skill combination demands he be given an early chance to show what he can do.
We’ve frequently seen fans get excited over particular college or international players after watching short highlight clips. Your attitude towards Pape Sy is no different than the one LDrew and many fans had towards JTeague, which kept his anchored to the bench.
NAJEH-Like AHorford, Horace Grant had a very effective midrange jumpshot. And David Robinson also developed a very effective short range jumper. Offensively, Horford is more versatile than Josh, but Josh is more versatile defensively. With Howard in the middle, we wouldn’t need Josh’s shot blocking or help DEF as much as we do now.
While Josh is a far far better post up player than jump shooter, who would you rather have posting up, Josh or Dwight? When teams double or triple team Dwight and he passes out, who would you rather have taking that outside shot, Al or Josh? I still say Horford is a better fit with Howard than Josh.
sam'l
June 21st, 2011
9:33 pm
I don’t believe a whole lot of what I’m seeing on the blog, but maybe I’m in a weird mood…..Shaq was injured a LOT this season….that’s why a team that wants to win did not trade for him. Marvin gives the impression he doesn’t want to step up, and I got that from him in an interview I saw…..If you don’t want to win go away….(however, in a MOTIVATED situation) he can score and rebound. Joe Johnson can be a fantastic player…..but apparently still not integrated with the team….why?
Josh…..fantastically gifted, hope his injuries are fully healed…..but still a crummy attitude at times, and this HAS COST the team. I think you could trade Josh. Jamal….creative scoring machine but moody, expensive….I like to watch him…keep him.
Now, the biggest beef I have……I don’t like Dwight Howard. He seems arrogant and immature, demanding, and he uses his elbows like weapons. (Obviously, he is a great player in many respects). However, once the league begins calling the fouls Howard racks up being aggressive and doesn’t give him 8 fouls a game, he’s going to be on the bench a lot more. I think he’s’ really, REALLY good……just don’t care for the attitude……
And having watched Mark Jackson make either obvious comments or off the point comments for years on TV makes me think he’ll miss the mark as coach……he’s wrong on a lot of stuff I’ve been watching with my own eyes…plus HE seems to have a ‘tude as well…….
My take…..not very creative, just reactive…….still think this team (with Jamal) could have won it all…..remember we were ahead in game 5 in Chicago……
It was not a bad pick
June 21st, 2011
9:40 pm
iTS OFFICAL, THE HAWKS HAVE TRADED JOSH SMITH!
Big Ray
June 21st, 2011
9:43 pm
Buddy Grizzard ,
I see you haven’t stopped toting your torch and pitchfork around,
.
I hate to break it to you, but LD is no lameduck coach. If he was, he’d be fired already. How do some of y’all just NOT get it?
The problem is, was, and will always be the ASG. They promoted the guy. There is ZERO talk about him being fired. A lame duck coach is a guy who is just waiting to be let go. Do you see these clowns letting him go? Oh don’t get me wrong, we can hope until the cows come home.
But I REPEAT, if the ASG wanted a high caliber coach THEY WOULD HAVE HIRED ONE ALREADY . Did they not have several discussions wit Avery Johnson last summer? It was reported in several articles.
Dude, I realize it may be easier to hate on the coach, but this is not unlike being angry about how crappy a particular type of car is, while consistently ignoring the fact that the company manufacturing the car insists on producing a faulty product over and over.
But hey…I realize it’s easier to stick pincushions into one voodoo doll instead of seven…
Unless the sale of the Thrasher turns out to be a huge boon, you can expect more foolishness like your love-to-hate relationship with the head coach. That, and more bad contracts and poopy end-of-the-bench free agent signings.
Big Ray
June 21st, 2011
9:45 pm
It was not a bad pick
June 21st, 2011
9:40 pm
iTS OFFICAL, THE HAWKS HAVE TRADED JOSH SMITH!
Yeaaaah, right. Call me back when they trade Marvin…
brigadierjerry
June 21st, 2011
9:45 pm
OT: Josh Smith dealt to Orlando?
by Clincher on Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:20 pm
Supposedly according to this twitter tweet:
https://twitter.com/#!/LindsayM_CSN/sta … 7674743808
ATL Gets:
F Ryan Anderson
G Jameer Nelson
C Daniel Orton
C Brandon Haywood
G Rodrique Borgeois
ORL Gets:
F Josh Smith
G Kirk Hinrich
DAL Gets:
F Marvin Williams
Magic’s defense is gonna be sick even if its for 1 season pending on what Dwight does
Big Ray
June 21st, 2011
9:50 pm
Brigadierjerry,
Ok, but how reliable is that? Not that I’m saying it wouldn’t come from somewhere other than the AJC first…seen that before…
JoJo the Godfather
June 21st, 2011
9:51 pm
That’s an outstanding trade for the hawks. Roddy B and Teague are electric youngsters
, along with vets Haywood and Nelson.
Jae Evolution
June 21st, 2011
9:51 pm
So if this trade happens I thought we were supposed to get talent back for Smith, out of all those people I see Jameer Nelson who will be injured and just take up Teague’s minutes.
If this trade goes through it will be a stab in the Atlanta fanbase heart that this was all we could get for Smoove and whoever called it the Library is exactly what it will be next season…
Najeh Davenpoop
June 21st, 2011
9:53 pm
“And I didn’t say he deserves regular playing time. I said his unique size/skill combination demands he be given an early chance to show what he can do. ”
Sy should be given every opportunity in training camp and preseason to show that he can play in the NBA. Hopefully LD gives him that opportunity. He did look like he could be an NBA player during the very few minutes he played in the regular season.
But it would be foolish for Sund to go into this season penciling him in for a significant role when he hasn’t proven anything yet. Teague’s situation is different since he has proven in the regular season and the playoffs, time and time again, that he plays well enough to start when given minutes. Sy, through no fault of his own, hasn’t proven this yet. Sund should approach this offseason looking at any meaningful contributions from Sy this season as icing on the cake, and acquire a fourth guard or swingman accordingly. If Sy proves that he can play, then the Hawks have a nice little surplus in the back court that they can use to make a trade to fill other needs.
Trading Sy and Horford for Rocket big men and #14 + 23/2nd rounder picks for Donatas & M.Thomas etc.
June 21st, 2011
9:59 pm
Noam Schiller, Hardwood Paroxysm: Chandler Parsons and Toni Kukoc. This is obviously a huge stretch — Parsons will never be anywhere near the player Kukoc was. But I can see Parsons thriving in the NBA in a similar role — heady point forward who comes off the bench, runs a little offense, and does a little bit of everything. He’ll be a second-round steal.
Motiejunas 16.9PPG/36min 5.6REB/36min Italian league- men league
Motiejunas 14.4PPG/36min 7.4REB/36min EUROCUP- men league
……….
Bargnani 18.0PPG/36min 5.8REB/36min NBA- men league
Toni Kukoc 15.9PTS/36min 5.8REB/36min NBA- men league
Nowitzki 17.6PTS/36 min 6.5REB/36min NBA- men league (2nd year at 240lb
Rasheed Wal. 15.9PTS/36 min 7.3REB/36min NBA- men league
Parsons 11.6PTS/36min 8.3REB/36min NCAA-college kids
Robert Silverman, Knickerblogger: It’s got to be the Jimmer Fredette/[insert Caucasian who can shoot here] comparisons. He’s not J.J. Redick or Steve Kerr. Jimmer is a better athlete than he’s given credit for and his game/skill set reminds me more of Ben Gordon than the pale-skinned folks he’s usually lumped in with.
this sh*”t is a joke. Double frikkin Standards
O'Brien
June 21st, 2011
10:00 pm
Najeh,
Interesting to see the Spurs interested in breaking up their core, just like the Hawks. Maybe Rick Sund was right. The Hawks are just like the Spurs.
Ken S,
I agree with Najeh’s 9:53 post.
All I’m saying is don’t count on Sy to be a solid rotational player. Hopefully, LD will give him the opportunity, and hopefully Sy will be able to take advantage of that opportunity.
But the fact remains that he was picked 53rd last year. Therefore, anything we get from him should be gravy, not expected.
MistaGamer
June 21st, 2011
10:02 pm
If that Orlando trade is true it really wouldn’t surprise me. An organization that would give a guy that don’t want to be “the man” and isn’t “the man” $120M+, would actually do this deal. They would actually trade their best talent on the team to a team within their division, making that team incredible and making their own team worse!
Only the ASG, only Sund, only in Atlanta.
O'Brien
June 21st, 2011
10:05 pm
Guys,
In all the years the ASG have owned the Hawks, what are the big moves they have made?
1) SNt for JJ 2) Trading for Bibby and 3) Trading for Jamal.
How many rumors have there been? Alot. Therefore, until I hear it from a reliable source, I will ignore all alleged “moves” the Hawks have made.
Plus it would take days (if not weeks) for Rick and the ASG to come to a consensus.
brigadierjerry
June 21st, 2011
10:06 pm
Trade doesnt sound like it is going to happen but sounds like Josh Smih might be in works for Boston. who knows
http://twitter.com/#!/NBASource1
Najeh Davenpoop
June 21st, 2011
10:11 pm
This “NBASource1″ has been tweeting for all of one hour. I think he’s about as reliable as my little fake Rick Sund Twitter.
Trading Sy and Horford for Rocket big men and #14 + 23/2nd rounder picks for Donatas & M.Thomas etc.
June 21st, 2011
10:19 pm
any one who still has Tim Duncan as an impact starter is practicing idolatry.
Everyone drops 40 on Duncan. He’s too slow on defense and more importantly offense.
Kudos to Popovich and Ginobili for winning 60 games but when it comes down to it Duncan has seen to many battles.
Duncan: 30 mpg? those are center minutes.
KevinM
June 21st, 2011
10:20 pm
For curiosity measures, if Minnesota actually did offer the #2 pick to every team in the league,what did Sund respond with? Would he have just blown off an interest before a conversation even got to a level of seriousness? I don’t think our org has any interest in blending young talent with the experienced vets. I gotta feeling that Sund thinks we are only a piece away from contending.
We are going to allow Drew another year of trial and error learning the HC position. Hard to watch what talent we do have go to waste.
Fundamentals
June 21st, 2011
10:24 pm
From the trade posted above we’d have
Nelson/Teague
Johnson/Roddy/Sy
?
Horford/Anderson
ZaZa/Orton/Haywood
Who’s the SF?
KevinM
June 21st, 2011
10:27 pm
Can I ask a dumb question in relation to a potential Josh deal with Boston? Why would anyone agree to any deal with Boston or the Lakers? They have literally all the league’s championships by a wide margin and in no way would I give them a chance to be a force in theircdivision. I would keep them at arms length and let them grow old and become a non-factor,
brigadierjerry
June 21st, 2011
10:27 pm
seems trade is bogus according to hawks pr person
http://twitter.com/#!/HawksPRGuy/status/83340019091255296Default
Fundamentals
June 21st, 2011
10:29 pm
Trading with Boston is just to clear the books if it happens when the contracts expire. No good for us.
Najeh Davenpoop
June 21st, 2011
10:35 pm
If you want to torture yourself for a while, Peachtree Hoops is doing an ongoing series recapping past drafts for the Hawks.
Somehow the Hawks’ draft history might actually be even worse than Rick Sund’s draft history.
Trading Sy and Horford for Rocket big men and #14 + 23/2nd rounder picks for Donatas & M.Thomas etc.
June 21st, 2011
10:38 pm
Smith on twitter?
oh an @fakericksund “We really are similar to Dallas. Horford is very close to Dirk’s level, Joe is clutch like Jet, Marvin has Marion’s intensity.”
We really could be similar to Dallas, Los Angeles and Detroit. Motiejunas is a 7′0 POWER FORWARD, Joe is a better 2nd slasher and complement than Jet, Smith at 235 is better than a 33 yo Marion,
I saw you comparing Shawn Bradley to Motiejunas and Parsons to Kukoc are you Serious???
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bench mob: Hinrich:M.Williams:Malcolm Thomas:J.Hill:Pachulia
starters: Teague:Johnson:Smith:Motiejunas:Thabeet
Grandmaster JeJe
June 21st, 2011
10:43 pm
MC thinks Horford can become a superstar play.
Horford put up atrocious numbers against an awful defender with turf toe in the 2nd round. He didn’t even foul him hard once
No thanks
Grandmaster JeJe
June 21st, 2011
10:47 pm
WHY WOULD WE TRADE FOR JAMEER?
JEFF TEAGUE PLAYED 1000X BETTER VS. CHICAGO THAN JAMEER PLAYED AGAINST US
WHAT AN IDIOTIC TRADE
FIRE SUND
SteveW
June 21st, 2011
10:48 pm
The lady who reported the trade is a legit sports writer. She says it has not been completed yet. The Hawks PR guy says disregard. If the trade turns out to be true:
One last slap at Teague, with Jameer and Beaubois coming in.
Sund really did like Orton last draft – said it was between he, D Jones and Jordan Crawford at #27
We would have no SF unless they plan on playing Anderson there.
But the trade is probably not true, so a moot point most likely….
Grandmaster JeJe
June 21st, 2011
10:51 pm
MAKE THAT JOSH SMITH TRADE, THEN YOU HAVE PAPE SY AS YOUR ONLY SMALL FORWARD
SCREW YOU SUND
jason
June 21st, 2011
10:54 pm
LOL! If you believe all those trades, dont. You could obviously tell he just made the twitter account and he’s saying on thursday that deal will happen when rick sund is playing a waiting game until the CBA is set. LOL PLEASE!
SteveW
June 21st, 2011
10:54 pm
If it were true (the trade):
C – Haywood/ZaZa/Orton/maybe Collins
PF – Horford/Anderson/Rolle
SF – Sy?/Wilkens?/Jarvis Hayes?/#48 pick?/Grant Hill/McGrady/Prince/etc.(Battier)
SG – JJ/Teague? And Teague did much worse as a SG at Wake than as the PG
PG – Jameer/Beaubois/Teague
It would improve our depth, but we seem out of balance. I really don’t like this trade scenario if it were to occur.
With a different Coach maybe, but I don’t trust LD with Teague, Beaubois, and Orton at all, and maybe not Anderson.
And LD may not know how to rotate C’s either for all I know.
Grandmaster JeJe
June 21st, 2011
10:55 pm
IN THOSE BS RUMORS, DALLAS WOULD TRADE US BEAUBOIS AND HAYWOOD FOR MARVIN
SCREW THE REST OF THE TRADE. LET THEM KEEP RODRIQUE
MARVIN FOR HAYWOOD YESTERDAY
HELL, THROW IN OUR SH!TTY 2ND ROUNDERS LIKE GLADYR.
READ TODAY’S AJC ARTICLE WITH ALL OF SUND’S 2ND ROUND PICKS IN THE PAST. DUDE THINKS GETTING EARL WATSON IS SOME MILESTONE
Grandmaster JeJe
June 21st, 2011
10:56 pm
RICK SUND MAKES A TRADE EVERY 2 YEARS, YOU FOOLS
NEXT TRADE HE MAKES WILL BE IN 2013.
OH WAIT, HE’LL BE GONE NEXT JUNE 30TH
Trading Sy and Horford for Rocket big men and #14 + 23/2nd rounder picks for Donatas & M.Thomas etc.
June 21st, 2011
10:58 pm
“Can I ask a dumb question in relation to a potential Josh deal with Boston? Why would anyone agree to any deal with Boston or the Lakers? They have literally all the league’s championships by a wide margin and in no way would I give them a chance to be a force in theircdivision. I would keep them at arms length and let them grow old and become a non-factor”
contender?
Kyle Lowry: Goran Drajic
Kevin Martin: Courtney Lee
Chase Budinger: Terrence Williams
Luis Scola: Patrick Patterson
Al Horford: Brad Miller
Kyle Lowry : Kevin Martin : Chase Budinger : Luis Scola : Al Horford
Courtney Lee : Goran Dragic : Terrence Williams : Patrick Patterson : Brad Miller (recovering microfracture 35 years old until January)
Chase Budinger $780,871 $884,293 $942,293
Chuck Hayes unsigned
Trading Sy and Horford for Rocket big men and #14 + 23/2nd rounder picks for Donatas & M.Thomas etc.
June 21st, 2011
11:41 pm
Oh and at fakericksund LOL at your Twin Towers tweet?
You seem to be hung up that Bargnani and Motiejunas are centers. They’re power forwards. Amir Johnson is a forward. They have Reggie Evans as their best bench player. Best guard is Derozan. Thats why the Raptors suck.
Smith is a small forward on both ends. Horford is a center who cant guard Playoff-caliber centers. Thats why we got blown out by 25ppg w/o Jason Collins.
June 26, 1991: Drafted by the Minnesota Timberwolves in the 1st round (7th pick) of the 1991 NBA Draft.
February 23, 1994: Traded by the Minnesota Timberwolves with a 1995 2nd round draft pick (Dragan Tarlac) to the Chicago Bulls for Stacey King.
7ppg, 1bpg, 5 rpg
WS/48 0.070 22 minutes per game. Championships? 3
Height: 7′2
Starters MP FG FGA FG%
Michael Jordan 43 5 19 .263
Scottie Pippen 42 7 17 .412
Ron Harper 38 3 11 .273
Dennis Rodman 38 4 9 .444
Luc Longley 32 5 6 .833
…………
Toni Kukoc 22 4 11 .364
Steve Kerr 17 3 4 .750
SteveW
June 21st, 2011
11:44 pm
Well if the phantom trade, which is now being called dead, which was probably never alive, were to happen, we would save about 6 or 7m this season, just enough to sign Jamal. Hmmm…..
And the report was we receive the Mavs 26th pick as well, so the lineup would have been:
C – Haywood/ZaZa
PF – Al/Anderson/Rolle
SF – JJ/Sy/Wilkens?
SG – Jamal/Teague
PG – Jameer/Beaubois
Can you win a championship with that roster? Probably not. But since “where all jumpshooters now”, that is def. a jump shooting lineup and bench.
Boy, this Josh talk is really heating up – Raptors, Nets, Celts, Lakers, Rockets etc.
We probably keep Josh. But I’m sure Otis wants him in Orlando or he’s toast when Dwight bolts. Josh may be the one guy that could keep Dwight in Orlando.
And Orlando would love that trade – Orlando blogs calling it the best trade ever for them.
Front court: Howard/Josh/Bass rotation. Scary.
One Orlando (columnist? I think so) called that the best defensive 5 -4 combo of all time!
Hedo at the 3
Arenas/Hinrich/Duhon at PG
Reddick/Q Richardson at the 2
Pretty solid lineup if you ask me.
But let’s just say we probably keep Josh.
Trading Sy and Horford for Rocket big men and #14 + 23/2nd rounder picks for Donatas & M.Thomas etc.
June 21st, 2011
11:49 pm
from the Highlight Factory to the lol the Library
I hope Smith is traded for some guards then I’ll know the NBA is rigged.
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bench mob: Hinrich:M.Williams:Malcolm Thomas:J.Hill:Pachulia
starters: Teague:Johnson:Smith:Motiejunas:Thabeet
Najeh Davenpoop
June 21st, 2011
11:51 pm
Flavor Flav, the fact that you are arguing against my fake Rick Sund tweets as if they are serious only makes your already insane trade idea even funnier.
SteveW
June 21st, 2011
11:53 pm
And for the we want Andrew Bogut crowd, the reason he’s on the market is because he just had another elbow surgery. And he has frequent severe migraines. And he’s not sure of his recovery for next season.
Bad risk
Ra'mon
June 21st, 2011
11:57 pm
I hope Atl know that if that trade happened, CPaul or Steve Nash would be only 2-3 months away from joining the Magic via trade. With a line up like that you would only need a 2-3 who can shoot lights out and create shots. I remember years ago Gilbert saying how much he would love to play with Josh. That deal happens, and I have to subscribe to League Pass. Because I would find it very hard to be as passionate about Hawks basketball when they’ve just traded their biggest impact player on the defensive end for 3/4 players who weaknesses are on the defensive end. That’s saying forget the defense we’re going to just play horse for 82 games and see what happens.
Trading Sy and Horford for Rocket big men and #14 + 23/2nd rounder picks for Donatas & M.Thomas etc.
June 22nd, 2011
12:15 am
“I hope Atl know that if that trade happened, CPaul or Steve Nash would be only 2-3 months away from joining the Magic via trade. With a line up like that you would only need a 2-3 who can shoot lights out and create shots. I remember years ago Gilbert saying how much he would love to play with Josh. That deal happens, and I have to subscribe to League Pass. Because I would find it very hard to be as passionate about Hawks basketball when they’ve just traded their biggest impact player on the defensive end for 3/4 players who weaknesses are on the defensive end. That’s saying forget the defense we’re going to just play horse for 82 games and see what happens.”
it worked for Nash a hall of famer oh wait no it didnt
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bench mob: Hinrich:M.Williams:Malcolm Thomas:J.Hill:Pachulia
starters: Teague:Johnson:Smith:Motiejunas:Thabeet
Trading Sy and Horford for Rocket big men and #14 + 23/2nd rounder picks for Donatas & M.Thomas etc.
June 22nd, 2011
12:16 am
If Donatas is there at 14 we trade Al Horford,
PLaYOFFS we talkin bout Playoffs??
We lose a playoff career 10 and 11 power forward -center
We gain a 7 and 6 center, a projected 16 & 8 PLAYOFF post up pick and pop power forward with more point guard handle on the break than sadly Al will ever have.
a 6 and 4 power forward-center, AND a 6′9 cornerman to play with Marvin and Kirk in the B-Team backcourt.
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starters TEAM: Teague : Johnson : Smith : Motiejunas : Thabeet
bench TEAM: Hinrich : M.Williams : Malcolm Thomas: J.Hill : Pachulia
Prison Mike
June 22nd, 2011
12:33 am
Please don’t fret, this deal will never go down. The asg are class A clowns but to trade the missing link to orlando is a travesty that they even wouldn’t commit.
Buddy Grizzard
June 22nd, 2011
12:41 am
“A DHoward trade would work salary wise if we traded JSmith…” – Ken S.
Hold up right there sir. Probably the only chance we have to ever see DH in a Hawks uniform is if he decides to come home to Atlanta and compete for a championship on the same roster with his childhood friend Josh. Josh’s best man coming to Atlanta also might be the only way we keep Josh. That story says Orlando is one of Josh’s preferred destinations, but Orlando has no assets, only liabilities, thanks to the work of the worst GM in the NBA, Otis Smith.
Therefore Josh isn’t going to Orlando. If they want to play together, they have to do it here. Atlanta, in the meantime, has assets it can send out for Dwight. If we trade All-NBA Al and Joe Johnson for Dwight and Arenas, we’re giving them two All-Stars for one and taking their worst contract off their hands. That is the best offer Orlando is likely to get. They may hate trading Dwight to a division rival, but if Dwight goes to Otis and says make it happen or I walk as a free agent, it will happen. Can the Hawks contend with:
C: Dwight Howard
PF: Josh Smith
SF: Marvin Williams
SG: Kirk Hinrich
PG: Jeff Teague
?
Buddy Grizzard
June 22nd, 2011
2:52 am
“Joe or Josh who would you trade if you could get the same value for both?” – RealSquawk
Joe in a heartbeat. Josh has big balls. Joe has no balls. All-NBA Al has some Sunmaid raisins tucked away in that diaper somewhere.
“If the Hawks trade Josh im interested to see who the fans will blame then cause this team will suck even more next year and at best will be lucky to be an 8th seed in the East.” – Roy
Co-sign.
“Offensively, Horford is more versatile than Josh, but Josh is more versatile defensively.” – Ken S.
Can’t agree with you here. Horford is fairly one-dimensional offensively. His game is limited to the long two (which he shoots for the best percentage of any player in the league) and mostly put-backs. Josh is not as good a shooter as Al, but he shot a better percentage from three during the regular season than Joe Johnson, so he wasn’t horrible (his shot abandoned him in the playoffs obviously). Plus Josh has a post-up game, which Al doesn’t.
“Roddy B and Teague are electric youngsters…” – JoJo
Roddy B didn’t get off the bench in the playoffs. That would be a franchise-wrecking trade for the Hawks. Why do we need three point guards? Ryan Anderson and Daniel Orton are garbage. Brendan Haywood is an injury waiting to happen. Why would we trade for Jameer, who can’t guard anybody, when we already have Teague?
“I would find it very hard to be as passionate about Hawks basketball when they’ve just traded their biggest impact player on the defensive end for 3/4 players who weaknesses are on the defensive end.” – Ra’mon
Co-sign. Where do I order my Josh Smith Magic jersey?
Realsquawk
June 22nd, 2011
2:53 am
Why would you trade the player who apparently is the emotional center of our team to a divisional rival?
EmirS.
June 22nd, 2011
4:14 am
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/06/21/jsmoove-on-the-move/?ls=iref:nbahpt1
Smith mentioned the Celtics, Rockets, Nets and…..the Magic…..for his possible destinations “IF” he was to be moved.
EmirS.
June 22nd, 2011
4:15 am
Enter your comments here
EmirS.
June 22nd, 2011
4:16 am
Alright nevermind….should have read some posts before I posted…guess everyone knows already…….
Ray
June 22nd, 2011
7:37 am
Because the ASG are idiots that’s why they would trade J-smoove to a division rival.
Honestly just look at Josh when he’s playing the opposing team respects him on both sides of the court except when he’s taking the jumpers, but I bet in about 2 more years working on that jumper J-smoove will be well respected.
Still J-smoove for Ryan Anderson, Jammer, and another G WHY! when you already have Teague the guy could be the next big thing, but the idiot ASG always and forever doing something to F it up.
If you’re trading Josh you get someone like Dwight Howard back in return even though I don’t suggest doing that cause the only way Dwight stays here is if J-smoove is here trade away Joe Johnson to Chicago for their picks and some players like Brewer and Deng.
Ray
June 22nd, 2011
7:38 am
Matter of Fact MC can you at least tell the owners the fans don’t want to get rid of J-smoove for us and tell them that we want Joe Johnson out of Atlanta.