Atlanta Hawks: Room for prospects
To hear Rick Sund and Dave Pendergraft talk today, the Hawks have changed their thinking when it comes to second-round draft picks.
Don’t expect the Hawks to draft another international project and either leave him playing overseas (Sergey Gladyr) or banish him to the far end of the bench/D-League (Pape Sy). More likely they will target a collegiate senior and, Pendergraft says, they expect to buck the odds and find a useful player at No. 48.
“We are not approaching this like there is luck involved,” he said. “We are approaching it like, ‘This is our pick and somebody we expect to make our team.’ And hopefully, if there is an injury, you can plug [the rookie] in there and they will be able to help.”
Perhaps more significantly, the Hawks might finally be to the point where there doesn’t have to be an injury to to the rotation guys for young guys to play. Sure, that might happen by necessity with just seven players under (guaranteed) contract next season and no financial flexibility (under the current CBA), but it still would represent a change in direction for the organization.
Asked if there is room on the roster for a promising second-round pick to get minutes, Pendergraft said:”What you have to weigh is, if we take a collegiate player and he is put in the same situation as Josh Powell or Etan Thomas, could they do as well or better?”
The other question, of course, is if the coach would play a rookie who is as good as those guys, but one thing at a time.
Sund said the Hawks are likely to draft the best available talent.
“It’s safe to say that, but I’m not going to commit to it,” he said. “I think you look at it as a need that you have and the best talent and then you equate it. Is that talent significantly better than the need? If it’s close, you take the need.”
What do the Hawks need?
“We would like to get a little tougher,” Sund said. “Hinrich helped us in that area and that kind of trickled down to some of the other players. I always like shooting. Size, rebounding. All of those things. Maybe not one is more important than the other.”
What skills tend to translate best from college to pro?
“People that rebound in college generally rebound in the NBA, even if they don’t make it for [the long term],” Sund said. “If you are a good rebounder in college, generally a good rebounder at professional level. Or if you are a good shooter. Some guys may be good shooters but they need more time to get it off.”
The Hawks aren’t releasing the names of the prospects they bring in for workouts. Sund’s explanation was that the workouts are not as significant since the Hawks don’t have a first-round pick. He said the players the team invited to Atlanta are simply those the Hawks didn’t get a chance to see at one of the three group workouts.
Pendergraft said the Hawks invited about 20 players. Most are college seniors and only three or four prospects are centers/power forwards.
“There’s probably been more swing players than ‘bigs’ simply because of supply and demand,” Pendergraft said. “There are not a lot of big guys.”
OK, blog people, take those clues provided by Sund and Pendergraft (college senior, tough rebounder or good shooter) and look at the list of prospects and see if you can narrow down the Hawks’ potential draftees.
Sund has hit on some value in the second-round before: He got both Earl Watson and Bobby Simmons in the 2000 draft for Seattle (and then traded Simmons for Predrag Drobnjak).
“The process in the second round, [since] the percentages aren’t all that high, is patience,” Sund said. “We ask a couple different questions. Does he have one NBA skill? Another is, does he have size? Or is there a player that is a little bit opposite of ‘Do they one NBA skill?’ and do they have multiple skills? A lot of those guys, like Bobby Simmons, are jacks-of-all-trades; they do a lot of things good but nothing necessarily great. Those players do have an opportunity to make it as—and I’m using this in a positive way—to have more of a journeyman status over the years.”
Notes
- Sund on the possibility of trading into the first round: “This time of year there is always a lot of dialogue going on. There’s probably less [potential deals] with the uncertainty of the CBA and people unwilling to pull the trigger. There’s just as much dialogue but the uncertainty of the new collective bargaining might play into the timing issues.”
- Pendergraft said Gladyr will play for the Ukranian national team in the European Championships this summer. The team is coached by Mike Fratello and is in Group D with Zaza’s Georgia national team. “This will be a good summer for [Gladyr],” Pendergraft said.
- Pendergraft on Gladyr’s development: “If the NBA was a game of H-O-R-S-E you could bring him over now. But physically he needs to mature a little bit. Playing in the ACB in Spain, which is one of the better leagues, has been invaluable to him. It’s the fist time he’s really gotten structure. In the Ukraine their league just wasn’t as competitive. He’s only 21, so will he ever be an NBA player? I’m not ready to put a percentage on it. He can really shoot, though.”
- Sy has been working out in Atlanta with Magnum Rolle. Those two plus the team’s draft pick are expected to participate in a minicamp at Philips later this month.
- Pendergraft said the workout sessions so far have been better because of the prospects’ circumstances. “In the past we are sitting here [picking] in late teens or late 20s and you bring guys to your gym and they’ll come but you know in the back of their minds [they think], ‘Oh, well, I’m not falling that far.’ And now we’ve got guys coming in, they know they are second-rounders and it doesn’t matter where [the money] it’s all the same. It’s been refreshing the guys that have come in here have busted their tails.”
- Pendergraft on older prospects: “Most college seniors there is going to be some physical changes, maturation. Not like [with] real young guys but be some. Not all four-, five-year players are ‘what you see is what you get.’”
- There was a time when it looked like the Hawks might have a shot at drafting center prospect Jeremy Tyler at No. 48. He’s the guy who skipped his senior year of high school (while spurning my Cards), went to Israel, and ended up in Japan. But Tyler apparently helped himself in meetings with teams and now should be gone when the Hawks pick. “We interviewed him in Chicago,” Pendegraft said. “Having never spoke to that young man before, he really had his act together.”
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Marcus
June 17th, 2011
11:25 pm
ehh … pick 48 will either be a steal or a ???
sidenote: Sure wish we would hire old Laker Michael Cooper to coach Sy this summer …. work him into a defensive wonder.
Grandad
June 17th, 2011
11:28 pm
Kito Benson, John leuer, Shelvin Mack, nor Shumpert…
will be there when we pick. (I hope I’m wrong)
Lighty is doughtful also, but he’s a maybe.
* SteveW…..you asked & you shall recieve:
* Charle Jenkins is a terrific player.
I read where he is the sleeper of the draft.
He played the [2] at Hofstra, but insists he’s a [1].
(he played the two out of necessity)
2,500 career points, avg 5 assts per, 42.5% from 3 pt range.
He was 2nd to Goudelock in overall shooting at the combine.
Even though he is a scorer…he is very effecient;
he is an extremely low volume shooter avg only 14.5 shots per.
I actually watched film on the younster and was very impressed.
Absolute perfect shooting stroke & he gets to the line.
6-3, 218, has an NBA body.
Mike is back
June 17th, 2011
11:31 pm
Let me get this right…Lebron had the opportunity to congratulate the Mavs at the game…ie Wade…AND U WANT TO…congratulate the Mavs…ON YO Web Site.
Scotty is comparing this KID to MJ…Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez…WTF was he thinking about…hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…did I mention…hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.lol
Grandad
June 17th, 2011
11:42 pm
O’Brien
One way MC could keep the blog open would be…..
Write an Article !
We sold Tibor Pleiss, who was an excellent pick.
He would most likely be a lottery pick this yr.
OKC has him stashed in Europe.
The Heat have Vanardo stashed in Italy.
We drafted the right guy,
those cheap ass owners sold him.
We didn’t sell the pick we sold the player.
I realize OKC decided who to pick.
No way Pendergaffe finds a jewell !
Grandad
June 17th, 2011
11:47 pm
LeBron’s gonna release his new autobiography
just as soon as,
He Comes Up With A Title !
Ra'mon
June 17th, 2011
11:47 pm
I like Lighty. He seems as if he could be the Hawks Ariza. An energetic wing player who can defend, and handle the ball decent. That is someone who could provide good bench help at minimum. Why not fill the bench with young wing players who want to defend and run, with old, grizzled veterans in the front court who want to bang and rebound. Out work and out run your opponents and you’re guaranteed to finish over .500 every season (look at Houston). Then you add that with the starting lineup and you have momentum shifters in the playoffs.
Buddy Grizzard
June 18th, 2011
12:08 am
“Why did ASG resign Sund?” – Jason
Don’t know if you saw the sports franchise rankings, but the ASG doesn’t have a lot of clout right now. I’m sure Sund signed for cheap since it’s not like other franchises are lined up outside his door offering him multi-year deals.
Plus, why pay good money for a GM when you don’t listen to him anyway? Sund recommended and commenced salary negotiations with Dwayne Casey, the lead assistant and defensive coordinator for the NBA champion Dallas Mavericks. The ASG decided to give the job to a coach whom no other NBA team would have hired… a coach whom no other NBA team will EVER offer a head coaching job to EVER AGAIN once he is fired by the ASG.
Buddy Grizzard
June 18th, 2011
12:09 am
LOL Grandad
TruthSeeker
June 18th, 2011
12:19 am
More delusion and wishful thinking from Sund and Co. They’ll probably talk up the 48th pick as their big offseason acquisition and sit on their hands the rest of the summer.
tckr83
June 18th, 2011
12:26 am
College senior… good rebounder and physical… Dear God NO! Is Shelden Williams in the draft again this year?!?!?
Buddy Grizzard
June 18th, 2011
12:35 am
“I hope they dont draft a Senior just because he is a senior or they think he is more physically mature.” – hawksfancents95
I think Sund realizes that he had to trade away assets that could have been developed (JC2 + this year’s 1st rounder) to try to win now. This franchise is going all in to try to win now. Stockpiling European players who might come over in 5 years is not part of the agenda. Picking and underclassmen who drops into the second round and really should have stayed in school to develop is also not part of the agenda.
A college senior is the most likely candidate for a player who can come in and contribute immediately without any issues with character and maturity. Sund knows this coaching staff is pathetically incapable of developing young talent. So the less young and the less in need of development, the better.
“[Josh] will be unrestricted this time, and with JJ and Al signed, we probably won’t be able to re-sign him….” – SteveW
Steve, if you read up on the labor negotiations you will see that one of the things the owners have pushed for is some kind of “franchise” tag that would make it easier for franchises, especially small-market franchises, to keep their stars. I don’t see the owners signing a collective bargaining agreement that FORBIDS them to retain star players.
The Hawks should be capable of re-signing Josh. It’s just a question of whether in two years Josh will have had enough of the ASG’s incompetence and decide to go somewhere where he can compete for a championship.
Grandad
June 18th, 2011
1:11 am
I’ve been reading alot of garbage with the blog down.
Has anyone read or heard that Jordo Crawford has
some sort of off-court issues;
I read that somewhere [no memory].
“off-court issues” personal, problematic, attitude,
female, legal, family, coachability, or is he a knucklehead ?
Grandad
June 18th, 2011
1:39 am
Prediction:
Josh Smith will *-Not-* be a Hawk next year !
Jamal probably won’t either, with nothing in return.
Cap’n Kirk 50/50 he’ll be gone as well.
Odds go up at trade deadline.
I will also predict;
we get .50 on the dollar (value) in return.
[if we are lucky]
Only two blogs in a month and I get downright pugnacious.
Buddy Grizzard
June 18th, 2011
2:56 am
O’Brien, on the rebounding in college thing, I was really high on Gani Lawal last year because Tech almost won an ACC championship with a back court that could barely get the ball over the half court line. I felt like Gani’s talents were overshadowed by Derrick Favors much like Eric Bledsoe’s were by John Wall.
Of course Gani got hurt and never got a chance to show anything in Phoenix. I was also down on Pape Sy all season, but the few minutes of garbage time I saw him play at the end of the season, he looked like he might develop into a contributor. I still would have taken Derrick Caracter at that pick. He didn’t earn alot of minutes on LA’s front line, obviously.
After reviewing the numbers I’m not really big on Shumpert or Leslie because we’ve already got a point who can’t shoot. I’d rather take a shot with Ben Hansbrough.
Worldwide Clyde
June 18th, 2011
3:57 am
Free Grandmaster JeJe
They need to bring back the Hawks summer league down at Life College.
EmirS.
June 18th, 2011
4:51 am
I don’t think Smith goes. Nor Kirk for that matter. I think we might lose Marvin and Zaza. Marvin for obvious reasons…and Zaza for inconsistency.
But IMO, Zaza shows up for the playoffs…even if he’s absent for the regular season.
I wish I could add my own 2 cents into this 48th pick conundrum, but I don’t know ANYONE in this draft nor do I pay attention to any college players.
So until Thursday…..take care!
Buddy Grizzard
June 18th, 2011
5:14 am
“I think we might lose Marvin and Zaza.” – EmirS.
We can’t afford to lose Zaza. He’s exactly what we were lacking against CHI, a young, hustling big man to not make Boozer look 25 again like Jason Collins did. He’s a hustle player and we have precious few of those. Our opening day starting lineup should be:
Teauge
JJ
Josh
All-NBA Al
Zaza
Our primary backups should be:
Kirk
Pape
Marvin
Damien
Whoever we sign/re-sign as backup center… could be Collins, Armstrong, Kwame etc.
With Kirk and Damien on the second team you get a culture of hustle which is going to infect Marvin and help bring him out of the funk he’s been in since JC1 arrived. With Zaza on the first team you can exploit matchups and create scoring chances for the main weapons and still have somebody to crash the offensive glass on misses. Changes the whole complexion of this team.
Najeh Davenpoop
June 18th, 2011
5:33 am
The Zaza who showed up for the last two months of the season is a pretty good player and a pretty good value for his contract. The Zaza who was on the bench before that is a pretty terrible player.
Good Zaza provides some things the Hawks otherwise lack. I’d still rather see the Hawks pursue someone who can provide his energy and rebounding but also provide a more imposing defensive presence. DeAndre Jordan would be ideal, but he might be out of the Hawks’ price range. Samuel Dalembert wouldn’t be a bad consolation prize at the right price.
I am still not comfortable with the idea of Zaza starting next to Al when neither one shows any inclination to play help defense. (Side note: by help defense I am including things like taking charges, not just shot blocking. Jason Collins does a pretty good job on help defense despite not being a shot blocker.) Zaza is a consummate bench player in my opinion.
Najeh Davenpoop
June 18th, 2011
5:55 am
Barring a core-breaking trade, the lion’s share of the back court minutes will be split among Teague, Kirk, and Joe. There are 96 minutes combined between the PG and SG positions. Assuming each player gets about 32 minutes per game — give or take a few here or there — the three of them would combine to use up all of those minutes.
(I realize that in some lineups Joe would slide over to SF, but this is a rough estimate so I’m disregarding that for now.)
In a perfect world, the SF, PF, and C minutes (144 minutes total) would be split in a similar manner between Smoove, Al, and a center acquired via free agency or trade who can rebound, defend man to man, help on defense, and finish at the basket. Of course if each of those three players were to play 35 minutes per game, they would still be short by 39 minutes, which would be split among backups like Zaza and Collins (at center) and Marvin and Damien (at SF or in some alignments PF).
In the absence of such an acquisition, though, even if Smoove and Al each play 35 minutes, that leaves 74 front court minutes to be budgeted among players like Marvin, Zaza, Damien, and Collins who do not consistently contribute enough in a wide enough variety of ways to merit that large of a role on a regular basis for a team that seriously wants to contend.
Disregarding Jamal — who should not be re-signed in my opinion — the five players mentioned above who get the lion’s share of the minutes (Teague, Joe, Smoove, Al, and Kirk) are the only ones who can be counted on to provide quality minutes on a daily basis for the Hawks. That is not enough to be a real contending team, especially since none of those players is a true superstar. It’s one thing for a team like Miami to have only three players who can really be relied upon to provide quality minutes game after game, when two of those players are two of the top three players in the league. It’s another thing entirely for the Hawks to roll into the season with five pretty good but not great players in position to provide all the quality minutes for the team.
It’s fair to say the Hawks have several needs that they should address — a fourth guard (preferably a SG/SF who can shoot) in the back court rotation as insurance in case one of the three guards gets injured, another forward in the front court rotation who can score in the low post — but getting a center who can play quality minutes and be a consistent defensive presence should be at the top of the list.
And penciling in the #48 pick in this weak ass draft to be the immediate solution to any of those problems going into the season is foolish in my opinion. All of those needs have to be addressed via trade or free agency. Even a college senior picked at #48 is very unlikely to step in and address any of those needs immediately.
Najeh Davenpoop
June 18th, 2011
6:02 am
The LA Times is doing a multi-part series on this year’s free agents. Of course their analysis is all from a Lakers perspective, but a lot of those free agents could address needs for the Hawks as well.
SteveW
June 18th, 2011
9:11 am
On the AJC Hawks Page, the name of this blog is:
The Daily Hawks Report
HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!
What a joke
SteveW
June 18th, 2011
9:14 am
If the Hawks brass wants a young guy to play that’s not a high lottery pick (Al, Marvin), they should hire a new head coach.
Ain’t gonna happen with this guy, unless he’s changed alot.
SteveW
June 18th, 2011
9:17 am
In that Josh to the Wizards trade for McGee and hopefully the #6 pick, I wonder if they’ll give us Jordan Crawford back?
Now I highly doubt the above trade will happen, with or without JC2.
SteveW
June 18th, 2011
9:35 am
KenS – I agree. But the dilemma is this: You have a Coach who runs the Motion O. So you need a jump shooter (we’re a team of jumpshooters now, remember?). Notice Sund’s comments above.
But at #48, you probably won’t find a defensive presence who’s also a good J shooter, or he would be picked much higher than #48.
But yes, I hope your right. Defense first:
Combo G’s in the draft maybe available:
Charles Jenkins
Shelvin Mack
Diante Garret (looks like a baller)
Ben Hansbrough
Demetri Mcamey
Goudelock and Wannamaker
Wings that fit Mr. Sunds criteria:
E’Twaun Moore
David Lighty
Marshon Brooks
Justin Holiday
Gary Flowers
Some other guys including Deibler
Bigs:
Jon Leuer
Chandler Parsons
Malcolm Thomas
Josh Harrelson
Vernon Macklin
Keith Benson
Rick Jackson
Pendefraft and Sund have seen these guys workout, so I’m sure they have a handle on it (I hope).
Guys that intrigue me in the draft:
Parsons
Harrelson
Mack
Jenskins
Hansborugh
Moore
Garrett
Keith Benson
And maybe Vernon Macklin. Looked awfully slow to me on a video clip.
Oh well, we’ll see what happens
tim
June 18th, 2011
9:40 am
A pick at 48 might not be good enough to make the team? If they make the team, do they get a 3 yr contract?
NBA basketball is a bad product getting worse every season……..
bigdave
June 18th, 2011
9:57 am
Buddy G..
co-sign your comments on Lawal..
hawks need to address specialist.. rather it be rebounders, shooters, defensive, slashers.. no more jack of all trade guys, we just dont have the coaching prowess to harness and define roles..
Mike is back
June 18th, 2011
10:07 am
Dang MC,
After you pore over Pendergraft statement a couple times, and after Najeh did such a thorough job of high lighting the obvious flaws with those comments…WHY TF do these guys keep coming with the same spend????????????????????
It hard to tell if Pendergraft is selling cars or auditioning for a DJ position…Heck they both will have great careers to fall back on after basketball.lol
SteveW
June 18th, 2011
10:25 am
Next season, my prediction:
The Hawks 8-13 is basically a mid-level D League team. We may sign a Grant Hill (doubt it) or a Josh McRobert/Jeff Foster as our “big” off season acquisition to get us to the next level. But I think Rolle, Sy, #48 and maybe some more castoffs are virtual locks to make the team.
With little depth, Larry Drew in an effort to save his job will play the starters more than he should. Al, JJ, Josh, Teague, Hinrich, Marvin all begin to break down with various nagging injuries. Maybe a major 1 or 2 also.
And because we have so little depth, ZaZa, maybe Wilkens if he re-signs, Collins (same), we begin to really stink on the court.
And as we get beat by 30+ on a regular basis, Larry is fired. And instead of bringing in a competent Coach, in an effort to save money, we let Lester Conner finish out the season.
We make the lottery.
We draft next years version of Sheldon Williams.
And we stink, with a bloated payroll, and almost no young players.
And we become the Minnesota Timberwolves of the South.
And that’s my glass half full version. My glass half empty version is the economy collapses, natural disasters increase, and the U.S. descends into chaos like we’ve never seen.
Oh well.
KevinM
June 18th, 2011
11:10 am
Najeh, I would hope for a quality basketball player at 48 as in all the world of amateur athletics, there should be 48 quality basketball players. Will Sund be able to find one because I he doesn’t, he wont be held accountable because we have yet to see a 2nd rounder contribute with any regularity. Speaking of contributing, Marvin is by far the roster’s biggest underachiever. You have to find a way to get Marvin out of the top 7-8 rotation players or bring in someone you know who can contribute regularly. I can’t recall Marvin having 2 consecutive games where he was a top contributor. For his level of pay/expectation, Marvin was expected to give us 30mpg. You can no longer afford him those minutes.
For Teague to get 32mpg, we are going to find another coach that puts trust in him. Larry doesn’t have faith in him and it’s blatantly obvious. I am sure he is asking for another jump shooter in the event Jamal leaves.
I expect to see Jamal to get Marvin-level pay for 3 years and I don’t see Sund bringing him back.
We definitely need a 4th guard, and would an OJ Mayo fit the bill? His contract is 4.5M next year with 3 year increases.
Nathan
June 18th, 2011
11:23 am
Pape sy can become a Sg and sund likes rebounding here you go a playmaker with sizerebounding and shooting in Chandler Parsons from Florida 6′10 and can be a SF He could be our future Sf and send josh away for a center. He has great potential.
Nathan
June 18th, 2011
11:24 am
or Vernon Macklin from Florida could be our future center i know hes 6′10 but has strength and is a good center.
Prison Mike
June 18th, 2011
11:28 am
This dude just said chandler freaking parsons has great potential, hmmmhahahaaa, oh boy.
O'Brien
June 18th, 2011
11:38 am
Buddy,
I wouldn’t put too much emphasis into garbage time minutes. Down the stretch in shelden’s rookie year, hawks were out of it, and with extended minutes, shelden was named rookie of the month if I’m not mistaken.
Najeh,
I think the 4th guard should be a PG. HIinrich is likely to get injured, so Teague will need help. I don’t want us relying on him and JJto handle PG.
Prison Mike
June 18th, 2011
11:39 am
Some how or way get an earlier pick and acquire leslie. Extreme defender from jump street and possibly a wade like player in the future.
Second rounders have not been our friend, look back 20 years and name a half way decent player. Salim over the likes of gortat. monta. lou williams, etc.So much talent the second round had in 2005.
Ken Strickland
June 18th, 2011
11:57 am
KEVINM-I think Pape Sy can develop into a very effective backup PG/SG. If LDrew can use JCrawford as his backup PG, he can certainly live with Pape Sy. Pape won’t likely give us the OFF we got from Jamal, especially as a jumpshooter, but his ability to penetrate and play DEF will create OFF in different ways.
If are to get any meaningful production from him, he can’t be ignored and have lame excuses made to justify ignoring him. We also need to either draft a shooter that plays DEF, or sign one. I doubt if we’ll resign Hilton Armstrong because we already have Rolle under contract, and they actually duplicate each other.
Barring any trades, I’d like to see a starting lineup of:
OC-AHorford
PF-JSmith
SF-JJohnson
SG-KHinrich
PG-JTeague
And please don’t start with the argument about this lineup being too small. It’s measures up in size and height to the Miami Heat’s starting lineup. And like them, we need to use our speed, quickness, athleticism and DEF ability to be successful. After watching the success Dallas and Chicago had by hiring DEF minded HC’s, you can expect LDrew’s tenue as the Hawks HC to come to an end if this team doesn’t improve, especially when it comes to attitude, effort and defensive.
This was Drew’s 1st HC experience, and he has room for improvement. However, it will require him to recognize some flaws in his approach, and he’ll have to make changes and/or adjustments for that improvement to materialize. He’ll finish the final yr of his contract, and I hope he makes the most of it.
I MUS WRITE
June 18th, 2011
12:08 pm
Rubbish I Say…..I have no faith that we will find a hidden gem at pick 48. See.Akoyl and Gladyr
Sign Deandre Jordan and Aarron Afflolo
Let JC1/Powell/ EThomas walk….
Trade Marvin and ZaZA for Dalembert
Who ever we pick at 48 will never see the court…..
Pape Sy should be given more minutes this guy is just as good as marvin IMO……..
Teague/JJ/Josh/Al/Jordan
Heinrich/Afflalo/Sye/Dalembert/Wilkins/
I MUS WRITE
June 18th, 2011
12:12 pm
Ken that line up compares to Mia in size but there is a drastic drop off in talent
drmaryb (*_-)
June 18th, 2011
12:26 pm
AC/DC!
“ehh … pick 48 will either be a steal or a ???
sidenote: Sure wish we would hire old Laker Michael Cooper to coach Sy this summer …. work him into a defensive wonder” – Marcus -
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A Battery – A Motor!
Marcus, very insightful comment here. I would rather see that #48 pick used to select a heart-filled rebounding specialist in the mold of an
un-drafted Dennis Rodman “HOF’er”. He was special, crazy – but, special. Look for an AC Green type player, perhaps AC Green stamina stemmed from being a 40 year old virgin, (no premarital sex and never married while he played). His body type was unremarkable, but his game was nothing short of remarkable in the 80’s. Fat chance on drafting another principled virgin from generation “Y”:
(why were they born? -smirks-).
These ASKG owners are the equivalent of 8 collective wizards, hiding behind a flimsy curtain, pushing random buttons to no avail, but to the detriment of separating ownership powers from operational powers.
Here’s my point:
“The truly successful in business possess the ability to hire the right people, and allow them to do their job.” -arthur unknown-
“When two people in business agree – one of them is unnecessary.”
-arthur unknown-
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Give the keys to the car to Sund, give your GM a blank check and leave us all alone. Whatever this ownership group did prior to purchasing these three properties? Go back to doing that!
These ASKG people commandeered this franchise away from
David McDavid and proceeded to royally muck it all up with un-evened personal and individual agendas, rising to the level of an unprecedented tyrannical and anarchist mentality. Blame the poor vetting of fiscal worthiness performed by Ted Turner and to a worse degree David Stern.
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I am “Ye of little faith” I am the quintessential non-believer of The ASKG management. How long does it take these owners and management team to realize that they have flawed principals when it comes to making making picks? Thirty-One years for Sund and only lord knows how many for Pendergraft? Who are these people?
International picks, sold picks for cash, picks that are never developed, tested only to be traded away? For the love of basketball – scout somebody and pick your needs! Do your job – or blow the whistle!
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Sund! Pull your pants up around your neck, and go get yourself a rebounder with that #48 pick! Why can’t you do that? You are on the clock, you got a week to get a PC a Mac and do your job.
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And, one more thing … Will someone @ AJC step up and monitor a decent blog? Check in, feed the fan base and interject a comment inside of a blue/gray box intermittently. I hope that’s not an unrealistic expectation.
darrell starks
June 18th, 2011
12:49 pm
Please let stop saying horford should starte at center, four years is a enough.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
June 18th, 2011
12:51 pm
Horford should no longer be the hawks starting center, the hawks where rank almost dead last in rebounding.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
June 18th, 2011
12:54 pm
Let jamal walk, thats 10mill off the books, and sign a center.
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darrell starks
June 18th, 2011
12:59 pm
Kwame Brown may be the hawks best option.
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darrell starks
June 18th, 2011
1:02 pm
STARTER TEAGUE, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD, KWAME
BENCH HINRICH, DAMIEN, MARVIN, ZAZA, COLLINS
RESERVE PAPE SY, HILTON
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!
The Truth
June 18th, 2011
1:05 pm
drmaryb (*_-)
Regarding your 2:26 pm post: OFF THE CHART!!
Congratulation! You just won the “The Truth” award today. You effectively and efficiently hit so many points with great clarity, I won’t bother posting today. That was a Grandad on steroids post.
Ken Strickland
June 18th, 2011
1:06 pm
I MUS WRITE-Don’t let the STAR FACTOR in Miami’s starting lineup fool you. While you can say SG DWade is DRASTICALLY better than KHinrich, can you say SF LJames is better than JJohnson, but can you say he’s DRASTICALLY better? Would you say PF CBosh is DRASTICALLY better than JSmith, or that either MChalmers or MBibby is DRASTICALLY better than JTeague, or that JAnhony is DRASTICALLY better than AHorford?
You can say the Hawks have a dropoff in talent at SF and SG, but not at any of the other 3 positions. However, they do get more OFF and DEF production out of their starting lineup. and that’s because they take better advantage of the talent they have. They don’t have a very good jump shooting starting lineup, so they focus on constantly attacking the basket and getting to the FT line.
We don’t have a very good jump shooting starting lineup, and we don’t get to the FT line often. But our solution is to continue relying on shooting jump shoots and not getting to the FT line. They are quick, fast, and athletic, so they run and score a lot of fast break pts. We are also quick, fast and athletic, but instead of running and scoring a lot of fast break pts, we focus on trying to run LDrew’s beloved half court MOTION OFF. And when it breaks down, which is often, we resort to ISO’s.
If we focus on DEF, make better use of our DEF talent, rather than focusing on OFF, and better utilize the talent we have, we can be just as successful as Miami was this yr. We can’t continue bringing in and ignoring young talent like HArmstrong, JC2, MRolle, JTeague and Pape Sy, and make no effort whatsoever to get any consistent OFF or DEF contributions from them.
wordsmithtom
June 18th, 2011
1:25 pm
If Josh Harralson is available….PLEASE take him. Kid doesn’t have the talent of some others, but he has FIRE IN THE BELLY. What he lacks in skill, he overcompensates with heart. He willed Kentucky to that championship. Not the flash of their skill dudes, but they don’t win without his muscle and will to win. That’s the kind of intangible Sund was talking about. Josh H has FIRE, muscle and bones break in his wake. He’ll never be All anything…..but a winner he surely is.
darrell starks
June 18th, 2011
1:26 pm
Josh should move to smallforward, he give the hawks a big advantage with size and his ability to score in the post at will, but josh must get his weight down atleast 15pounds.
Joe every years look slower and sluggish he also need loose at least 15 to 20pounds for quicknees.
Marvin should get his weight down at least 15pound he also look very slow and sluggish.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!
ntrigue
June 18th, 2011
1:30 pm
TTrade Marvin and kirk for lottery pick and draft Kemba Walker. Let him run the 2nd unit. Him and Teague would be crazy.
Ra'mon
June 18th, 2011
1:46 pm
I know a lot of people are not liking Lebron today. But make no mistake, Lebron is DRASTICALLY Better than Joe. If Lebron was here instead of Joe, we would be a Finals team. May wouldn’t win it all, but we would’ve beat Chicago. Lebron drives better, creates more foul. He’s a better play maker, defender, rebounder, and sells tickets while doing all of this. Lebron even shoots as good as Joe (this season) from beyond the arc.
Worldwide Clyde
June 18th, 2011
2:06 pm
We need to sign Sean Williams. He’s learnt his lesson.