Atlanta Hawks: About that backcourt . . ..
My story the other day included the line: “[P]laying Teague more minutes, especially in combination with Hinrich, would improve the defense.”
If the Hawks started that backcourt next season, it would finally signal they are serious about defense. Teague and Hinrich had developed a good defensive chemistry, with Teague as the relentless ball hound and Hinrich as the tough guy shedding screens and challenging shots. And that alignment moves J.J. to the 3, mitigating two of his main defensive weaknesses: containing quicker opponents and chasing anyone through screens.
Using Teague and Hinrich in combination could have benefits for the offense, too, which presumably means there’s a better chance L.D. would do it. Hinrich is a shot-maker who doesn’t need screens to get good looks. Teague showed against the Bulls that he’s capable of getting into the lane and making runners and floaters or setting up cutting teammates (at least when they did cut–watching Dallas last night reminded me of what that’s supposed to look like).
With Teague and Hinrich handling the ball the majority of the time instead of J.J., the Hawks would have a new, dynamic look (assuming fourth quarters aren’t still allowed to always become Iso-Joe shows). Remember when Teague said this regarding playing alongside Hinrich?
“It’s a lot easier. Defensively, you know he’s going to have your help and I am going to have his back. He’s easy to play with. He passes the ball and gets everybody involved. It makes your job a lot easier when you know a guy is willing to give up the ball. He’s a good player.”
In addition, a starting alignment of Teague-Hinrich-J.J. sends Marvin to the bench, where it’s become increasingly clear he belongs and where he might be a better fit, anyway. But there also is one major problem with using the Teague-Hinrich-J.J. alignment on a regular basis: It sends Marvin to the bench. (It also would leave the bench thin on scoring without Jamal, but that’s a topic for another time.)
Marvin, for all his faults, is a pretty good rebounder–his total rebound rate of 10.1 ranked 21st among small forwards who played at least 10 minutes per game, according to Hoopdata. (EDIT: Marvin bottom five in rebounding-rate differential this season. It could cancel out whatever defensive gains are provided by the Teague-Hinrich backcourt because, as the Hawks saw time and time against the Bulls, good defensive effort can go for naught if the opponent is rebounding too many of its misses.
J.J.’s lack of rebounding production looks worse when you compare his strong, 6-7, 240-plus pound frame to those of some of the better rebounders in the league. Guys like Melo (6-8, 230), Mike Miller (6-8, 220), Q-Rich (6-6, 230), Matt Barnes(6-7, 225), Ronnie Brewer (6-7, 230) and so on lack J.J’s physical gifts but are much better on the boards.
How is it that J.J. could push around J-Rich when he wanted to get to his spots on the floor but J-Rich (6-6, 225) is a much better rebounder?
It takes more than brawn to rebound–instincts, awareness, toughness, technique (blocking out) and persistence are also high on the list of desirable attributes. Plus, a lot of the guys who are good rebounders don’t shoulder nearly the same scoring burden as J.J.
But you’d think a guy with J.J.’s size and strength could be better if he focused on rebounding. He was right when he said the Hawks could use more guys to do the dirty work. It’s also true that the Hawks would be a better team, with a potentially better lineup, if J.J. pitched in on that effort.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
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Trojan
May 24th, 2011
4:27 pm
Al is killing us with his becoming soft. A PF or a C can not be soft.
Elvin Hayes
May 24th, 2011
4:28 pm
Joe could be another Bobby Dandridge at the three spot. Do it, Larry.
Booo!
May 24th, 2011
4:34 pm
I mean seriously, I didn’t see Al Flex in front of the camera once during these playoffs; Not even once! In two rounds of action! You KNOW it’s bad when Big Al’s not Flexin’
A vereery Un-Boss-Like performance from him this post-season. His head musta been in the clouds or somethin’. I think he needs to stop listening to Tito Horford and get big. Time for Al to hit the weights.
Booo!
May 24th, 2011
4:34 pm
Oops Double-post, I thought the blog moster ate my first one lol.
Booo!
May 24th, 2011
4:44 pm
oldmike, Very true
Magic Johnson
May 24th, 2011
4:48 pm
“”Does anyone else find it dissapinting that Al has turned into Mr. softie? I mean, you got 6′7 Joel Anthony in the post snagging rebounds and blocking shots.”"
Joel Anthony is 6′9 with a reputed 7-foot-4 wingspan, that’s center territory. Al Horford by contrast has a 7′0.75 wingspan which is not good for defense when combined with his average height. By contrast Amare Stoudemire (who has also been called soft) has 1 more inch on his wingspan and measured the same vertical as Al.
Can you find a clip of Al blocking shots or repeatedly dunking on an elite center or power forward? Dwight? Bosh?
Horford simply does not have the tools to dominate the power forward position. It would be better if he was a shorter but more fluid shooter and compact weight with positional defense like Zach Randolph.
Unfortunately his offense comes from dunking on smaller players and pick and rolls. He is too slow to penetrate and draw contact and attempt a shot or beat even Ryan Anderson off the dribble.
Just looking at this draft’s PF (which is considered weak) Horford will never be a top power forward in the league.
“You got guys like Carl Landry and Chuck Hayes can get down in the paint and they’re like 6′5 at best. WTH is wrong with Al?”
Chuck Hayes is heavier and more compact than Al and can lock a defenders knees with his strength. Even so Hayes is a liability on offense.
Landry is 6′8.1/2 and is expectedly quicker to the hoop and more explosive around the hoop than Al. But he has a moderate wingspan for his position and is a terrible rebounder at less than 5 per game. His last game he had 2 boards in 34 minutes. Unacceptable and is not much of a defender neither.
I think Dwight really took his manhood back in the 09-10′ playoffs Smh…
Lebron
May 24th, 2011
4:51 pm
Horford did not “become” soft. He has always been a jump shooter who gets layups by hustling but is bothered by length. Always.
No one is buying this he “became” soft crud.
Veteran Fan
May 24th, 2011
4:53 pm
This is so simple it sings! What you are saying is that JJ has no motivation or desire to play defense or rebound! What does he do besides miss 3s? Trade him to NY or NJ for a #1, package it with our #1 and go after Fredette! Consistent scorer and good fundamental ballplayer! Trade Josh, Zaza and Marvin for Kevin Love and Darko! Darko, Horford, Love, Heinrich, and Teague works for me bigtime!!!!! With the money saved go after another big! PLEASE break up the CORE!
Harpie
May 24th, 2011
4:58 pm
The problem with Al is Larry Drew! His screwed -up “coaching” and his allowing Josh Smith to get away with playing like an idiot took Al’s heart away.
Lebron
May 24th, 2011
5:08 pm
Furthermore all power forwards have been called soft. They are tweeners stuck between the 3 and the 5. Most often they can’t guard centers and so they get that label.
Dirk, Pau, Bargnani, Stoudemire, Bosh etc.
Horford does not have the right combination to become a dominant power forward. He is David Lee with less coordination and the same defense.
Trade him for Bogut and Marvin Williams for Larry Sanders and Gooden. Add Hinrich for Salmons to allow Teague to start and help replace Crawford’s scoring off the bench.
Sign Thornton for firepower in $1-2 million backup wing.
You finally get a center who can match up with Dwight and anyone else in the league, replace the Marvin Williams inability to score close baskets and add probably the best bench scoring in Salmons and Pachulia and Al Thornton and Gooden who can defend and score better against backups.
add a pg and pick and rolls where Joe shoots off the ball and the screener (3/4/5) rolls and everyone else crashes and u can contend.
The equal opportunity offense with guys on every side will not work with this group. If you want to get some guys in foul trouble early by attacking ie Deng or Wade. Throw it into a big post option:
(lighter faster) Smith at the 3, Bogut at the 5, and Joe at the 2 and others cut through and sneak in for buckets when man’s head turns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ANablz86QA
It’s a simple game.
Smith when he had speed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01sGzTPhiAA&
Michael Cunningham
May 24th, 2011
5:13 pm
@Jon: “Hello MC. Any word on the MRI results from Jeff Teague’s wrist last Tuesday?”
never got word back from the Hawks on that. will check again.
Michael Cunningham
May 24th, 2011
5:13 pm
@JDK: “MC : Putting aside the uncertainty of the CBA (yes, you can do it), do you believe the Hawks will make a major trade? Call it now, please.”
ha . . . sorry, i really can’t. will there be trade exceptions? if not, then a team over the cap couldn’t make trades. or, maybe they can make trades but the matching rules will be different.
but even if there weren’t CBA chaos, how could i tell you if the Hawks will make a major trade? i’m sure they could make one right now if they were willing to accept less value in return.
KevinM
May 24th, 2011
5:14 pm
Heads up, Sund is in Minnesota with other GMs for the draft evaluations…
Jojo, your info makes too much logic to even think Sund would move Al. Now it has to be Josh if there is a major move to be made.
And I don’t see Jamal back unless Josh is gone and we can bring less back in cap penalties.
Michael Cunningham
May 24th, 2011
5:16 pm
@Hawk n the Ham: ‘@MC, if Teague and Kirk are both starters on the floor, they are the only point guards the team has. Who would the the 1st guard to come in off the bench? This is taking in consideration that Crawford is a goner…..”
they would need another guard for sure. i don’t think it would have to be a point, though. the Hawks pretty much got by with basically one point guard all season since Teague wasn’t really in the rotation. maybe they could get by that way again as long as Teague or Hinrich were on the floor at all times?
Lebron
May 24th, 2011
5:16 pm
@Veteran Fan
“Darko, Horford, Love, Heinrich, and Teague works for me bigtime!!!!!”
who plays the 3? Hinrich or Love.
JJ is paid too much but that doesn’t mean you can give him away to another team and defend him with Hinrich and expect to win. That is if that team makes the playoffs.
Bogut+Sanders+236lbSmith+Johnson+Teague
Pachulia+Gooden+Al.Thornton+Ronnie.Price+JohnSalmons
This team could average 8 blocks between its frontcourt and make the ECF.
The Hawks need to move on from Al Horford his “white-collar” I fail but its okay because I do everything right needs to stop. Marvin Williams is toxic and Hinrich is a good contract but no other realistic trade in the league will solve the frontcourt problems.
He is not a defensive franchise big man, at the 4 or the 5.
Michael Cunningham
May 24th, 2011
5:18 pm
@Neki Ecko; “Hey, MC
I hope that you feel alittle bit better.
“First thing first, what is your feeling about the issues that is going on with the ASG and how that is going to translate to the Hawks since they will probably be the ones that get hit the hardest from this situation.”
feeling fine, thanks . . . . i think if ASG sells the money-losing Thrashers it should only help. i don’t think it means they suddenly will be willing to spend into the tax, though.
Michael Cunningham
May 24th, 2011
5:20 pm
@Marvin 20 ppg: “you came from Miami, where the Heat wasted Beasly, a former #2 pick by playing him at pf, but have you ever seen a franchise draft two guys in the top 3 and waste both picks for two average at best players?..Al( playing a 6ft8 guy at center who is a pf and clearly better than the guy playing pf), Marvin( changing his game, making him a catch a shoot player for Joe Johnson)?”
Al is average, at best?
KevinM
May 24th, 2011
5:22 pm
“A lot of the NBA’s big management names attended draft workouts at Target Center on Monday afternoon: Larry Bird, Mitch Kupchak, Rick Sund, John Hammond, Monty Willams, Avery Johnson and Flip Saunders all were there.”
IMO, the only time of year to be in Minnesota. No humidity and I’m sure there’s time for golf and listening to Bird stories.
Michael Cunningham
May 24th, 2011
5:29 pm
@GT Alum: “As far as obtaining dirty work players, haven’t we been looking for those kind of guys for a while, especially guys on the frontline who can rebound and defend? And the best we’ve ended up with are guys like Etan and Powell, who, if they have much to offer, haven’t gotten a chance to show it on the floor. And Twin had some pretty miserable years for the Hawks before displaying some usefulness this year.”
man, this is a tough crowd for optimism.seriously, though, this is the truth. you have to find the right guys. i understand your skepticism about the Hawks’ ability to do it.
“And you somewhat contradict yourself with your statements about being able to get cheap role players and possibly having to get players who can score in different ways. The Hawks need players who can put up significant points when the shots aren’t falling. Guys who are that good at getting to the basket or scoring in the paint don’t generally come cheap.”
there are guys who can get to the line that come at a reasonable price–the Hawks were interested in one of them, Ramon Sessions. you can see some more guys like when you sort this list by FTA/FGA. it’s the same thing as with dirty work players: they aren’t plentiful at a good price, but they are out there. the Hawks just have to identify them and sell them on playing here.
The Game Has Changed
May 24th, 2011
5:30 pm
I dont think we need to try and dismantle the roster. Teague and Hinrich would make a good combo. But what would we do about a backup point guard? If we decided to resign Jamal I think we would be in good shape. Teague, Hinrich, Joe, Josh, Horford. and the bench Jamal, Wilkens, Williams, Powell, Collins. I think that would give up 55 wins next year. If everybody stays healthy
Back at it
May 24th, 2011
5:31 pm
Al horford made 3rd team all-nba..Nothing average about that..Dont make yourself look so foolish!
Michael Cunningham
May 24th, 2011
5:31 pm
@Booo: “Does anyone else find it dissapinting that Al has turned into Mr. softie? I mean, you got 6′7 Joel Anthony in the post snagging rebounds and blocking shots.”
everyone thought the Heat overpaid for Anthony but i’ve always liked him as a tough role player who plays bigger than his size.
GT Alum
May 24th, 2011
5:35 pm
@MC
Yeah, it’s just with the Hawks’ history filling out the roster, that just hasn’t seemed to be one of Sund’s strengths.
Michael Cunningham
May 24th, 2011
5:35 pm
@Lebron: FYI, if you put more than one link in your comment, the blog monster will usually eat it.
ILL-Logical
May 24th, 2011
5:43 pm
“If the Hawks started that backcourt next season, it would finally signal they are serious about defense”
An arguable point. While perimeter defense has not been a stong suite of the Hawks over the last few years and this combo promises a marked improvement, is it-this combo in the starting line up- enough to overcome the lack of interior D that will result with the proposed line up of Joe and AS-oops APA in the front court? Further, I for one want to see a larger sample before M-V-Teague is annointed as the solution to the Hawk’s point guard problem.Seriously,if winning a championship(s) is the goal ,Captain Kirk is not the answer either.
I know that we are trying to stay within the reality of the Spirit Group but come on; these are the folks that annointed Joe as the savior and APA as the second coming.
Marcus
May 24th, 2011
5:44 pm
man, I wish we had the $$$ to have pursued Amir Johnson and Ronnie Brewer last summer. That was my wish list…but given the contract he eventually got, Amir would have been overpaid as a backup PF.
Choosen1
May 24th, 2011
5:48 pm
Can some please answer this question for me???? Ok here goes. We as fan’s want to see a team with Great defense and that WOW factor in transition (Fastbreak) and then hold their on in the half court set. So my question is if you have Teague being the man who can make this possible then who should be he’s running mate Josh or Al at the the 4 and rember the 4 must play with heart and pride none of that soft Sh*t
Bob
May 24th, 2011
5:58 pm
Michael…good article and excellent insight; however, stop trying to spin Marvin. Being the 21st best rebounder among small forwards means that he is in the bottom third. The Hawks need to replace him with an upgrade, at least in the top 50%. Just my opinion.
I Heart Atlanta
May 24th, 2011
6:06 pm
Mc,
In your opinion who would win in a Smoove for Bynum Trade…?
I Personally Would Rather Trade Al For Bynum
Ryan
May 24th, 2011
6:06 pm
I say trade Al and keep Josh. Al is worth more but Josh has proven he will do more dirty work than al…..
GT Alum
May 24th, 2011
6:18 pm
Bob –
MC’s stat was among players who played at least 10 mins at SF, not among starters There’s 63 players who qualify under that criteria, meaning Marvin is in the top 3rd of that list. As Michael stated in a comment, if you look at SFs who played at least 25 minutes, Marvin’s 9th. There’s 33 in that list, so Marvin’s still in the top 3rd.
The Game Has Changed
May 24th, 2011
6:22 pm
We need to keep Josh and Al. Maybe try to give the Lakers Pachulia, Collins, and 3first rounds.
joey1
May 24th, 2011
6:23 pm
choosen , clearly josh smith on any given night he can have a 20point,10rebounds,7 assist, 3 steals 4 blocks, no doubt josh trys harder and is more physical than horford, if j smooth matures and plays around the basket we could contend for nba championships with the right type of teammates focues on defense and hard work
Jody
May 24th, 2011
6:23 pm
@ MC,
I think Al and Josh are good rebounders, but not against the teams with the bigger frontlines, which usually are the teams that matter (if you’re talking about being title contenders vs. the same old mediocrity). I like Al and Josh both, but if they return again as the starting 4-5 combination, this team will be headed for the same conclusion as the previous 4 years. As a main combination, they’re just too small against the elite teams. Also, taking into account that Al, for all his accomplishments at the 5, is really a 4 and wants to play there, it would seem something’s got to give. The status quo of keeping the “core” intact and signing “cheap” players to fill out the roster doesn’t cut it anymore. Trotting out practically the same roster year after year while expecting a different outcome is insane. That’s my take. I appreciate all your hard work sir.
Dwayne
May 24th, 2011
6:30 pm
MC,
I know it’s difficult to get this sort of information in the offseason, but I’d really like to know what Al’s position on posting up vs. playing on the perimeter is. Does Al just prefer to play on the perimeter more than he likes to bang inside in the post or is it Drew’s offense that has resulted in him playing more on the perimeter. Based upon observation, it seems like it’s a combination of both of these things. Personally, I hated the way that Josh and Al were used in Drew’s offense, particularly in the playoffs. Still, I don’t think the offense can be blamed fully for both of them migrating more toward the perimeter this season. At any rate, I’d just like to know what Al’s true preference is. I’m surprised to see him settling for jumpers more since he’s always been a physical player that doesn’t shy away from contact. I’ve followed him since he started out at UF and he’s always been a guy who seemed to welcome physical play and contact, That’s why I’m so surprised. Anyway, I get the feeling that even if he was asked where he’d rather play, I don’t feel like he’d give an honest answer. It was pretty clear during the regular season that he was unhappy about a lot of things with the team, but he never really expressed his feelings in a straight-forward fashion. You could always sort of read between the lines to see what he was saying though.
ant banks
May 24th, 2011
6:31 pm
DENNIS RODMAN made it to the h.o.f. by bein’ a damn good rebounder!!!! no way the bulls win 6 rings wit’out DENNIS bangin’ on the boards like that.
these guys doin’ ONE and DONE in college come into the league thinkin’ about scorin’. if you can average 11 boards/night you will have a long career in this league
KevinM
May 24th, 2011
6:38 pm
“The Game Has Changed
May 24th, 2011
5:30 pm
I dont think we need to try and dismantle the roster”
Not to shock you here, but we right now have 7 under contract. The rest of wide open. And the 7 we have do not give us enough ammunition to ‘compete’ for a ECF appearance. If things stay the same, we only have 6M for 7 slots…..and you know we aren’t going to have the same luxury tax level. Its only going down.
Now honestly, with the pack that we have as FAs, how many teams are coming to get these guys?
Collins/Sy/Damien/Sy – do you see anyone that is critical to retain?
You can get these guys at any time and the way it looks, we are going to have a minimum player roster.
Its the reality of it all. Our guys aren’t as coveted as you want them to be. We put a higher value on them than the league.
Remember Chills? How did that work out? You saw what we got for 2 #1s and Bibby? As I said yesterday, Sund really hasn’t done anyting significant since he has been here. He has just taken a ride and continued it course for 2nd round exits.
Does Sund know how to build a championship team? My opinion, if we don’t move a captain, we aren’t going to progress any further. Those numbers are a killer to the bottom line because Marvin takes up what fudge there might be going forward.
Ryan
May 24th, 2011
6:39 pm
I was a huge Al fan and I criticized Josh more than most. But Josh has shown he will play inside more than Al and that’s saying something….. Try to work a horford/Marvin for bogut trade imho
UGA
May 24th, 2011
6:46 pm
MC:
How does the trade exception the Hawks got for Josh Childress help? And don’t they have to use it by the end of June or it expires correct?
superiorblogman
May 24th, 2011
6:50 pm
Not a fan of the 3 guard lineup unless we get a 7fter that is a defensive beast and I doubt we get one. Our most sensible thing to do is trade Hinrich and his expiring for a upgrade to the team.
Hinrich, Zaza, trade exception and Marvin to the Clips for Mo Williams, Kaman, and Aminu
superiorblogman
May 24th, 2011
6:58 pm
Not a fan of the 3 guard lineup unless we get a 7fter that is a defensive beast and I doubt we get one. Our most sensible thing to do is trade Hinrich and his expiring for a upgrade to the team.
Hinrich, Zaza, trade exception and Marvin to the Clips for Mo Williams, Kaman, and Aminu
New lineup:
PG Teague/Mo Williams/Demetri McCamey
SG Joe/ Marcus Thorton (MLE)/Pape
SF Josh/Aminu/Damien
PF Al/Reggie Evans (MLE)/Chris Wilcox (Minimum salary)
C Kaman/Collins (Minimum)/Fesenko (Minimum salary)
superiorblogman
May 24th, 2011
6:59 pm
Not a fan of the 3 guard lineup unless we get a 7fter that is a defensive beast and I doubt we get one. Our most sensible thing to do is trade Hinrich and his expiring for a upgrade to the team.
Hinrich, Zaza, trade exception and Marvin to the Clips for Mo Williams, Kaman, and Aminu
New lineup:
PG Teague/Mo Williams/Demetri McCamey(Draft)
SG Joe/ Marcus Thorton (MLE)/Pape
SF Josh/Aminu/Damien
PF Al/Reggie Evans (MLE)/Chris Wilcox (Minimum salary)
C Kaman/Collins (Minimum)/Fesenko (Minimum salary)
Marvin will be a 20ppg scorer
May 24th, 2011
7:00 pm
@ MC
Ok, i wrote it wrong…I was asking have you ever seen a team draft two players in the top 3, only to have them defer to two average players..Al has not been able to play his natural position,pf, because of josh, and al is 20x the player of josh..Josh is 6ft7, Al is 6ft8, no way JOSH COULD HAVE EVER PLAYED CENTER IN THE NBA LIKE AL HAS..and Josh cannot play SF, he can’t shoot, he is a perfect 6th man, but he would probaly choke Drew out if he recomended it…..Marvin has been made a catch and shoot player due to joe having the ball all the time…he averaged 14ppg for 3 years in a row, while shooting 45% or better, and then came along jamal and his 1000 shots a year and the constant ball hoggin by joe Max..marvin simply is not a Josh Smith type of player that will jack up bad shots just to do it…
Najeh Davenpoop
May 24th, 2011
7:05 pm
“Al sounds more and more like he wants nothing to do with banging in the post.”
A power forward who doesn’t want to bang in the post is not doing his job.
Contrary to what Jeff Schultz and the people at Peachtree Hoops think, Al should not be untouchable when it comes to trade discussion.
Marvin will be a 20ppg scorer
May 24th, 2011
7:14 pm
josh is 6ft7, Al is 6ft 8, i wonder why i hear no fans asking for josh to play center and bang all year long with guys bigger than him?
Najeh Davenpoop
May 24th, 2011
7:17 pm
If Al is really that averse to playing inside and playing physically, I wouldn’t even mind moving him to small forward and keeping Smoove at PF.
KevinM
May 24th, 2011
7:18 pm
I think of the 3 captains, Al is the least likely to be traded today because of his salary implications. We don’t get equal value in return for moving Al, unless it becomes high draft pick worthy….then we benefit long term.
But Joe’s contract will kill us more and more each year.
ag
May 24th, 2011
7:20 pm
I have posted all the great centers in the past that are the same size at Al who became good/great centers. The argument about facing banging centers is really there are not many in the league anymore. Al is an all-star at center, but I am sure he will be a good power forward – as exposed in the playoffs. Al needs to focus himself to be a center and dedicate this off season to improving.
I think we need to make a move for a draft pick by offering Marvin. That will clear some payroll.
Najeh Davenpoop
May 24th, 2011
7:22 pm
I like the Teague-Kirk-Joe-Smoove-Al lineup in some situations. But if the Hawks are going to roll with that, they need another guard off the bench (I’m operating under the assumption that Jamal is gone) and they need a big lineup on which they can fall back against bigger teams. Collins is a keeper and so is Zaza if he continues playing like he did in the second half of the season, but both are probably better suited to bench roles, and I’d prefer the Hawks find a DeAndre Jordan-like center to plug in to the starting lineup in those situations.
So in other words, if they are going to roll with the three-guard base lineup, they probably need to add two quality rotation players to the bench. Even if they are able to get something valuable in exchange for Marvin (whose time in ATL hopefully is up), that seems doubtful.
O'Brien
May 24th, 2011
8:00 pm
MC,
the Hawks pretty much got by with basically one point guard all season since Teague wasn’t really in the rotation..
Bibby was barely “half a PG” since January, and Teague still got no playing time.