Atlanta Hawks: Video: Looking ahead

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Or I think ATL would want defense and rebounding after getting blown out multiple seasons by elite rebounders.

Or do we still say yay! All Star Horford he’s undersized but he averages 10 boards!
Then get blown out in the playoffs?

Dwight has yet to sign an extension. New York and Miami will be getting centers attention.

1) Hinrich, Horford and Williams must go to get Bogut and Larry Sanders and Teague playing time and add combo guard Salmons and Drew Gooden to the bench.
2) Over the season Teague and Sanders develop and veterans Smith and Johnson all set the tone in working hard and putting late nights shooting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjLJ6OlnXr4
Smith loses weight at the 3 then proves his worth as a Shawn Marion or is traded for 28-year old Danny Granger or maybe volume shooter Rudy Gay if possible.
I believe the Smith trade will not be necessary. This team has several good players but Williams must be packaged to progress and we need a center to compete with Noah and Miami and a bench, to compete on the boards.

+Al Thornton ($2 million max)

+ John Salmons, Gooden, Sanders, Bogut for Horford, Williams, Hinrich

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Call David Kahn crazy but I think he’s on to something. Do yall remember the New York Knicks envelope with the folded edge during the year Patrick Ewing entered the draft? Hmmm

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/David-Kahn-hints-at-lottery-malfeasance-remains?urn=nba-wp3409

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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6hu9z2k

Joe Johnson to Minny for

Martell Webster
Pekovic
Wayne Ellington
Jonny Flynn

and the 2nd pick

Trade Flynn to Sactown for a 2nd rd pick to get rid of his contract
Keep Ellington for shooting
Buy out Martell Webster
Keep Pekovic for the end of the bench

So, we are only keeping about $6 million in salary. Add the number 2 picks salary and we have cut like $9 million from next years cap.

PG Teague
SG Hinrich
SF Josh Smith
PF Derrick Williams
C Al Horford

Go from there with a emphasis on getting a starting level C and SG.

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Personally, I wanted Matt barnes and still do. I also agree on a bogut trade.
Jt/jj/barnes/Horford/ bogut

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“if Al isn’t tradeable”

Al is the MOST tradeable. JJ is 30+ and has the largest contract. Smith has his DPOY candidate but he is 6′8 and he and Marvin Williams will not net you a defensive center.

Horford for Tyson Chandler would be great but then we would have a hole at PF.

Bogut has a lengthy injury history, but the most recent he is one year removed from (arm and hand injury).

Horford has All Star nods and a 3rd All NBA team nod. He’s a tweener on offense/defense but Horford, Williams and Hinrich for Sanders, Bogut, Gooden and John Salmons helps the team win now.

@Kevin M
“The PF is the easiest position IMO to pick up in this league”
a small center or an oversized forward or a skinny center.
next to undersized shooting guard power forward is the easiest to fill.
However, Horford is able to play a bit of center and has experience to help Milwaukee run and gun and they are not wanting to win now.
So that small losing style suits them. Atlanta cannot tolerate having the 15th ranked defense and bankrolling $70 million once again and get blown out by elite teams like Chicago rebounding or Miami’s scoring.

Atlanta need to make a move for a center now. They are close to elite but not yet.
Also watch out for Dwight Howard moving to power forward in New Jersey or twin Towers in Orlando maybe.

Either way Atlanta is setting themselves up for disaster with Marvin Williams or trading Josh Smith and expecting a competent defensive center.

And no one wants to rebuild through the draft.

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When you get old & they put you out to pasture;
the health betrays you and you cannot do what you enjoy most,
coach basketball, well 2nd most, thank goodness for 1st most,
a crusty ol’ fart spends alot of time pondering and studying, his passion.

“Having said that”, G-dad’s Trade O’ the Day:
[..This one is doable & maybe even probable..]

Josh Smith to PHX
Atl;
in return receives:
Marcin Gortat + filler + # 13 pick in 2011 draft.

Why PHX does the deal:
PHX covets Josh Smith
PHX will try and give Nash a component to compete.
They think & rightfully so that Nash will do for Josh…..
similarly what he did for Amare. (prediction = Josh all-star)
# 13 pick not as valuable this yr as most.

Why Atl does the deal:
We move one of our supposed “have to” moveable pieces.
We get an above avg. Big. = legit 7 ftr. + 7-4 wingspan
Gortat athletic for a Euro (white guy) & tough + he rebounds !
filler = unimportant [not Childress]
# 13 pick;
Chris Singleton, Fla St., Plays [2], [3] & [4].
a natural [3] and would compliment Al.
CS = best defensive player in draft.
We replace Josh’s defense with defense & get a legit Big.

Singleton can guard all five positions.
“the Chicago Way” ?
-talk the talk the walk the walk-

Bash away blog cohorts !

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP7p49Sf5QE

no Grandad lol. Shooting comes and goes. Horford needs to go. and Gortat should not cost Smith. Smith/Horford should net us a top player. Defensively and rebounding wise preferably.

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last post here.

Marvin Williams (sg/sf) + Horford (pf/c)+ Hinrich (pg)
for
Sanders (pf/c) + Bogut (c) + Gooden (pf/c) + Salmons (pg/sg/sf)

+Al Thornton (sg/sf)

Atlanta can go big Milwaukee can go small.

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“Josh Smith to PHX
Atl;
in return receives:
Marcin Gortat + filler + # 13 pick in 2011 draft.”

a) A #13 pick in this draft is like a #25 pick in a normal draft.

b) What the hell is this blog’s infatuation with Marcin Gortat? Any big man is going to look good catching passes from Steve Nash. When has he shown that he can be a defensive impact player? When has he shown he can be a go-to option in the post?

He’s a good rebounder. Beyond that there is nothing special about him. Just because he plays well against the Hawks doesn’t mean he’ll play well against everyone else.

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Magic, the only way there is going to be cap relief and for you to improve your team on the cheap, you most likely have to do it throughout he draft.
Let’s look at teams and their elite player(s)
How did the Spurs end up with Duncan, Ginobili and Parker? All draft picks.
LALakers-draft picks Kobe
Celtics-Rondo…is teams’ most important piece
Mia-Wade
Dallas-Nowitski
Chi-Rose

Point is and sloppily pointed out by me is the best way for your team to have an elite player is you have to draft him…..we need a guy tomhelpmusnthatncomes out of the draftband who will grow wtth us. We aren’t winning with our 3 captains leading the team. We need a bigger star for the A-T-L like a Dominique. The Thrashers were on the verge with Heatley and Ilya, but circumstances didn’t allow the hockey team to be successful. We know the main cause.

On trading Al, I thought his new contract prevented him from being traded for a period of time….that is why I mentioned that earlier. Josh and Joe may be our only shot to get that high draft pick. Our salary limitations dictate this type of thinking.

We move Joe, we have options like the bulk of the league, but we might have to drop back a bit and reload with different talent. I don’t think Sund has it in him, so my hopes are faint here for anything major to happen before June 30. We are at a crossroads where we have to find relief just to field an entire roster.
Think it’s tough now? Wait til you see the league present a sizable cut to players’ salaries where a Blake Griffin may have reached his top salary earnings in a couple of years.
This formula limits us to have to make the right decision 9 out of 10 times instead of missing on 3 or 4 top 6 picks in a 5 year period.
This team doesn’t use the FA market nor the MLE exception. It is draft, trades and projects.
Sund is looking for lightning to strike and the odds are not good.

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Najeh

I never mentioned MG’s offense.
His rebounding after going to PHX was very good.
He is an above avg defender.
I would never trade Josh for Gortat 1 on 1.

However with Singleton returning as a defensive specialist,
and gifted athlete as is Josh,
plus local for fans,
he is the codicil to Gortat that makes the trade worthy.

The more I read about Singleton;
I wish for a way to get into the 1st round
[..between 10 & 16..] in order to get CS.
quote, -Steve Kyler- Hoops World;
‘`Singleton is going to be a monster”

—So—
My trade accomplishes 4 objectives.
(1) acquires a Big
(2) acqires a young athletic defender of five positions.
(3) gets two starters for one.
(4) balances line-up

* Singleton projects better than Taj Gibson at the same stage.

** I would prefer to trade Joe than Josh;
but, ‘`Que Sera Sera” ?

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Listen to me;
if I’m wrong I’ll certainly admit to it.

Two obtainable talents on draft night:
* Chris Singleton, would need to trade for a pick between 10 & 16.
* Justin Harper (..Richmond..), late 1st eary 2nd.
** maybe get someone to flip 2nd round picks ?

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I just read Mr Bradley’s column,
and realized I scooped him by a bit more than 12 hrs.

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Sautee,

Please review my “Diaper Al in the playoffs summary” and see if you can find any glaring holes.

All-NBA teams are simply that: selections made by journalists AND votes were cast before the playoffs. You can bet that after these playoffs the voting would have changed.

What would you prefer TODAY? Al Horford the All NBA 3rd team or Z-BO?

Just as an example of how unreliable is the opinion of journalists, we have Hollinger who is a complete and utter idiot who relies on his “analysis” on a deeply flawed metric he has created (PER).

I could list dozens on guys who spew gallons of nonsense on TV, internet and press.

Diaper Al’s performance in the playoffs was inexcusable and the Dirk Nowitski example is a bad one: his Mavs got jobbed by the refs in the finals and the following year the choker was Avery Johnson who instead of keeping the same starting 5 and scheme that allowed the Mavs to lead the league played down to the Warriors style.

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Sautee

Al was less than stellar;
sucked should be reserved for Marvin or Mo Evans,
perhaps even Joe Johnson depending on the year.

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Grandad,

OK, he played poorly. Better?

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JOE contract must go.
Joe for Paul gasol and then resign jamal and sign free agent Al Thorton
STARTER TEAGUE, DAMIEN, JOSH, HORFORD, PAUL
BENCH HINRICH, JAMAL, AL THORTON, MARVIN, ZAZA
RESERVE PAPE SY, COLLINS
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Joe contract must go.
Joe for Rudy Gay, Tony Allen sign and Trade Jamal for Dalembert and sign free agent Al Thorton
STARTER TEAGUE, RUDY, JOSH, HORFORD, DALEMBERT
BENCH HINRICH, TONY, AL THORTON, MARVIN, ZAZA
RESERVE PAPE SY, COLLINS
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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DARELL STARKS,

put down the pipe, sir. while in the effin’ world would anyone tie an anchor around THEIR necks to help the hawks by takin’ jj’s contract? 30+ years old, 5 years at 20mill, none performance durin’ playoffs?

got damn y’all killin’ me wit’ these trade proposals where only the hawks benefit…smgdhif

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Sautee

Nah, sucked is fine.
I only wanted to point out to all the Al lampoonists
[is lampoonist a word] ?
that there are worse players in the world than Al,
that have sucked hind tit durin’ the play-offs.

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LOL @ MC calling JJ “not so good of a perimeter defender”. All that dude did was guard 3 positions at times this year. Having said that, Teague and Hinrich together would make for an interesting defensive backcourt. And with JJ at the 3, that trio would be pretty good defensively.

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As for the Draft Lottery . . I’ve always thought that these teams should PLAY for that #1 spot ONLY. Or at the most, play for the #1 and #2 spots. I’d achieve that in a single-elimination type tournament. I’ve kicked around various ideas for this.

One idea would be to take the 14 non-playoff teams, and play them against each other in a 1st round qualifying game. But I would weigh it as to where the best team plays the 2nd best team in the 1st round, knocking one of those teams out. And go down the list until the worst team plays the 2nd worst team. Team with worst record is at home. If we did it by records, it’ll look like this: ( who I think would win in parenthesis )

13) Minnesota @ 14) Cleveland . . ( Minnesota )
11) Sacramento @ 12) Toronto . . ( Toronto )
9) LA Clippers @ 10) Washington . . ( LA Clippers )
7) Golden St @ New Jersey . . ( New Jersey )
5) Utah @ 6) Detroit . . ( Utah )
3) Phoenix @ 4) Charlotte . . ( Phoenix )
1) Houston @ 2) Milwaukee . . ( Milwaukee )

Then you play off those 7 teams, with the worse seed ( Minnesota ), getting a bye to the semifinals, playing the lowest remaining seed. Lowest seeded teams are at home.

So it would be

1) Milwaukee @ 3) Phoenix . . ( Phoenix )
5) Utah @ Jersey . . ( New Jersey )
10) Washington @ 12) Toronto . . ( Washington )

Next round . . high seeds play each other, low seeds play each other

3) Phoenix @ New Jersey . . ( Phoenix )
10) Washington @ 13) Minnesota . . ( Minnesota )

3) Phoenix @ 13) Minnesota . . ( Phoenix )

Phoenix would get #1 pick . . Minnesota #2 pick . . and you’d order the rest according to record

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northcyde,

“Horford has averaged over 10 rebounds or shot over 50% in just one year, and tends to play softer than he did in the regular season ( even before this playoff year )”

Yep. Softer and softer and softer each year that passes.

Last year he was manhandled by Kurt Thomas.

This year he struggled against Bass who is 6′7” at best!

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