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Slimjr

May 17th, 2011
11:52 pm

“Big Ben had so much publicity around him because he was a 2x Super Bowl winning QB of a national team. And it was fresh as in happened within 6 months of breaking, not 3 years.”

word on the street those boys down in South Georgia destroyed the film evidence against Big Ben.
is the system rigged?? You betcha azz it still is…..
Vic would have gotten life w/o parole……keepin it real….

If the shoe dont fit, you must ….blah blah blah…..

I wish Teague nothing but the best!!!

Something is smelling real fishy up there…

Slimjr

May 17th, 2011
11:56 pm

Dirk appears to be on a roll. 48 pts tonight!! 12-15 fgs and 24 for 24 from the stripe!!

Lets see if he can finally get a ring or he’ll be like Barkley, Ewing and a host of others….

Slimjr

May 18th, 2011
12:07 am

Larry is the weakest link……

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
12:27 am

Jeff Teague has nothing to worry about
other than some bad pub.

Seriously, SteveW do not be alarmed,

Kobe actually consummated the act;
nothing happened.
[well some things happened but nothing he couldn't afford]

Jeff:
What a point guard though,
passing off to his teammate like that.
I’ve got more that are even less appropriate than that one.
I’ll stop before being censored.

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
12:41 am

“The Balkan” is Detroit venture capitalist JB Smith

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
12:49 am

John Moores

In February 2008, Moores’ wife Becky filed for divorce,
citing irreconcilable differences.
As part of potential settlement in the divorce,
it was reported that Moores
is prepared to part with the family home
on a golf course at Pebble Beach, California.
The property is overlooking the Pacific and the 18th fairway
of one of the world’s most glorious golf courses.
The divorce also prompted a major overhaul of the roster
of the San Diego Padres and then a sale of a large portion
of Moores’ interest in the Padres.
Associates say since filing for divorce,
Moores now spends most of his time in Texas
and rarely attends Padres and San Diego State games.

Jason

May 18th, 2011
1:16 am

Too early to bestow this much fame on Teague, now watch the Today show on Thursday morning! What was he thinking?????

Jason

May 18th, 2011
1:19 am

@ Grandad, Teague has nothing to worry about, except bad pub, of course that’s how it usually ends up for the guys, and the jocks! Walked her back to the hotel, and kissed her neck??? Come on, get me somebody else to lead my team!

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
1:20 am

John Moores

“John Moores did not take the precaution
of a prenuptial agreement when he married the girl
from his high school history class at 19 years old.”

The Pebble Beach place:
For a mere $35 million,
Multiple listings describe the 10,500-square-foot residence
as “breathtaking and irreplaceable.”

*[..California Divorce Laws = 50/50 split..]

Jake Peavy speaks:
I just wish them all the best. …
I think the world of Becky and John and Jennifer (daughter)
and all they’ve done for my family, and not just financially.”

John Moores is renowned for his philanthropy.

_________________________________________________________

* Evidently the divorce wrecked an otherwise familial approach toward
‘`team ownership” .

superiorblogman

May 18th, 2011
1:29 am

John Moores:

Is not much of a upgrade over the ASG. He is not loaded with money. He is a penny pincher that has a name for running teams cheaply, put him with Rick Sund and you have even more of a disaster than what we currently have

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
1:34 am

Jason;
I’m not defending Jeff nor sending him to hell.
In the good ol’ US of A;
all are -presumed- innocent until -proven- guilty.
Two key words;
*presumed which is oft times overlooked,
but more importantly *proven.

First of all from the young ladies story,
I’m not exactly sure what he was supposed to do.
Perhaps her father may have taught her not to go in
a room with two men, alone !
What was she thinking?
Were they adults? (of age)?
The DA did not prosecute. Why?
Why is this coming out now?

If I’m Jeff, unless he has something to hide,
I’m thinking besides a little embarrassment
what is there to worry about.

One more piece of advice for Jeff:
“Always tell the truth” -Grandad-

You are I don’t know half what goes on with
young people these days.
Not only athletes and famous people either.
Unfortunately, they don’t always make good and right decisions.
As a father, you do the best you can, then pray alot.

I’m behind Jeff until there is reason otherwise.

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
1:42 am

superiorblogman

He’s got plenty of jack.
Divorce messed him up.

His players and mgr seemed to know him personally.

I would like that if he was involved with the team a bit. [A.Blank]

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
1:43 am

should have been…..[r e, A.Blank]

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
1:44 am

S-blogman

How’s everything, hope all is well.

superiorblogman

May 18th, 2011
1:45 am

That slut bucket is just trying to get paid. That’s the same thing that happened to 2Pac though, he reportedly left a girl in the room while his boys did what they wanted and he ended up in prison. You never know how this type of mess will work out.

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
1:48 am

NBA Source: Hawks GM Sund To Return Next Season

An NBA source told
WSB Channel 2 sports director Zach Klein
‘`Hawks general manager Rick Sund will return next season”

Sund signed a 3-year contract in May of 2008
with an option for a fourth year.
At the conclusion of the season,
the franchise informed Sund the option would be picked up.

superiorblogman

May 18th, 2011
1:50 am

Thanks for asking Grandad:

I am okay man. Feeling really tired lately, but I am at peace, so it really doesn’t matter if I live 2 more days or 20 more years. Hey, they say its all gonna end for us on the 20th. What you think about that? LMAO.

By the way, how are you doing physically?

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
1:56 am

Losing a gallbladder at my age,
took a little more out of me (no pun)
than I’m accustomed.

like you I’m feeling really tired.
My sleep is all messed up.
Can’t seem to get back on sched.

Were you able to pick up that book?

I would like to have an opportunity to meet someday.
Philosophical discussions and the like.

I don’t have any answers, I just ask lots of questions?

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
2:01 am

above…^…@…^…1:56 am…^…was for S-blogman !

superiorblogman

May 18th, 2011
2:33 am

Grandad:

No to the book thing. I was trying to remember the name to it. I will write it down this time. Yes, the meeting thing may be very much possible at some point.

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
3:01 am

‘`Love wins” by Rob Bell

* It’s not a novel

Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell,
and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived

Rob Bell is a theologian / preacher.

It’s not your everyday “church” book.

That’s why I thought you might enjoy.

He goes against the grain of most all that we;
“who believe in fairy tales” [..r e, Stephen Hawking..]
have been taught most of our lives.

Myself, being an open minded renaissance man,
I have found the book to be both challenging and enriching.

Grandad

May 18th, 2011
3:18 am

above…^…post…^…@…^…3:01 am…^…for…S-blogman !

KevinM

May 18th, 2011
4:00 am

Grandad with major news…..as much as I wanted to see Sund leave, now we know how we are headed going into the draft:

- no #1, and Sund is busy compiling his scouting reports for pick 48.

- our head coach next year…..drum roll…….ugh

- the roster as it stands today? We are who we thought we were!

If anyone expects any major changes, we might be in for another Sund type summer….everyone anticipating who our 12th and 13th players off the bench will be.

JC1 and JC2 jerseys are on clearance now at your local Philips outlet.

I guess the only thing worse would be to not have a NBA season.

KevinM

May 18th, 2011
4:08 am

2 things stand out in that WSB article:

Smith has improved his scoring and defensive rebounding each year since 2008, but has fallen in love with the long distance jumper. After attempting zero 3-pointers in 2009, Smith launched 154 in 2010.

Hinrich seemed to have found his groove before a groin injury forced him to miss the entire series against Chicago. He started 28 of the 30-games, but in his absence against the Bulls, Jeff Teague had his coming out party.

Folks, don’t count on Josh not continuing to take those slingshots and look for Hindrich to keep his starting role….Drew doesn’t care what Teague showed…..he isn’t letting the fan base dictate his decisions.
After all, the coach got us to play .500 ball for the entire season.

Have a little faith y’all…..

vava74

May 18th, 2011
4:35 am

MC,

could you start posting these videos on youtube so international fans like myself can watch them?

SteveW

May 18th, 2011
8:14 am

And Teague with the assist!

He’s just got a PG mentality – follows him wherever he goes

JoJo the Godfather

May 18th, 2011
8:43 am

Cleveland with their lotto luck, likely just found their SF & PG for the future. They’ve got a young PF in Hickson, and a hustle center in Verejao. If they’re looking to pair that group with an impact player, maybe they would make the following trade: Joe Johnson for Antawn Jamison’s expiring contract, Manny Harris & Semih Erden (spelling). Hawks could then flip Jamison’s expiring & a 2nd rd pick to Detroit for Rip Hamilton & Ben Wallace. This gives the Hawks a veteran/young duo at SG & C. This also clears about $2M in salary and almost opens up an MLE level addition for that 13th & final roster spot. Not a perfect team, but a lot more flexible with Wallace, Hinrich, Sy, Harris & Erden on expiring deals in 2012, and Smith, Pachulia, Teague & Hamilton expiring in 2013. Williams in 2014.

Teague / Hinrich
Hamilton / Harris / Sy
Smith / Williams
Horford / Rolle
Wallace/ Pachulia / Erden

JeJe

May 18th, 2011
8:44 am

He credited some late-night shooting sessions he put in during Dallas’ nine-day wait for this series, and the confidence boost of hitting his first few shots.
-Dirk

^Yeah, you won’t see anyone on the Hawks putting in late-night shooting sessions

FIRE LD

Also, why would Gearon want to sell the teams? Can never see a lifelong Hawker selling them

KevinM

May 18th, 2011
9:00 am

I think DMB has been pining for Prince and Hamilton for awhile now. I would take Rip in a pinch. I think he has a lot of basketball left in him a la Ray Allen.
Moving that JJ contract is the key to any major move this offseason. We don’t need a 18M SG that does less in an LD offensive scheme. JJ has also shown year after year the playoffs are not for him. Hamilton/Bynum for JJ…..
I see Minnesota wants to move their 2nd pick for veteran help. Someone wake up Sund and get home to offer All-star Al if he is tradeable or Josh for Jonny Flynn / 2nd pick which ends up being Enes Kanter.

Teague
Hamilton
Kanter (much cheaper and a future all-star) – you cant passion this guy.
Al OR Josh
Marvin/Damien/??

terrell

May 18th, 2011
9:01 am

Heard Minnesota doesnt want that @ pick.
Send em Al/Marvin for #2 pick and a couple of throwins(Telfair/Darko).
Teague/Joe/Derrick Williams/Josh/(FA)Dalembert
Telfair/HinrichDamien//Zaza/Darko

terrell

May 18th, 2011
9:03 am

lol. Anything to get rid of Marvin. lol

KevinM

May 18th, 2011
9:05 am

That’s ‘pass on’ not passion haha…

JeJe

May 18th, 2011
9:36 am

Sund is returning next?!

An NBA source told WSB Channel 2 sports director Zach Klein that Hawks general manager Rick Sund will return next season. Sund signed a 3-year contract in May of 2008 with an option for a fourth year. At the conclusion of the season, the franchise informed Sund the option would be picked up. In his three years in Atlanta, the Hawks have reached the Eastern Conference Semi-Finals every year and have averaged close to 50 wins per season. Following the 2010 playoffs where they were swept by the Orlando Magic, the Hawks did not offer head coach Mike Woodson a new contract and decided to go in a new direction by promoting assistant Larry Drew. “Over the last few years, a number of teams have had success hiring from within and we feel he is more than ready for the challenge,” said Sund when Drew was hired on June 8, 2010. WSB Channel 2

JeJe

May 18th, 2011
9:38 am

Sund will go on the radio and talk about how we are one of three teams to make it to the 2nd round 3 years in a row

HEY SUND HOW ABOUT YOU TALK ABOUT OUR CAP SITUATION

WE CAN’T SIGN !@#$ THIS OFFSEASON YOU MORON

JeJe

May 18th, 2011
9:42 am

Wake Forest president Nathan Hatch sent a letter to the Wake Forest community acknowledging that a NBC “Today Show” segment airing Thursday morning will feature a former student who alleged that two former Wake Forest basketball players sexually assaulted her in 2009. Hatch said that the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) would prevent the university from discussing the specifics of the case. But he added that “I can assure you the University takes these issues seriously, has a well-established Code of Conduct and has procedures for hearing alleged violations of that Code of Conduct. In addition, Wake Forest offers significant resources to support our students in times of need.” The attorney for the two former Wake players said Tuesday night both of his clients were cleared of any wrongdoing by a school hearing and an investigation by the Miami police department into the alleged assault hours after the Demon Deacons were upset by Cleveland State on March 20, 2009, in the first round of the NCAA tournament in Miami. ESPN.com
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Winston-Salem attorney Mike Grace told ESPN.com he represented former players Jeff Teague, now a member of the Atlanta Hawks, and Gary Clark, in the case that was adjudicated two years ago but is now coming to light again when the alleged victim appears on the Today Show. Grace said Teague’s agent, Mike Conley, has endorsed Grace speaking on the matter. The alleged victim also participated in the campus hearing, according to Grace. The alleged victim’s allegations prompted multiple statements by the highest-level of the Wake Forest administration and athletic department Tuesday. ESPN.com
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O'Brien

May 18th, 2011
10:00 am

According to hoopshype, Minny is open to moving the #2 pick for some veteran help (and it helps that they are way under the cap next year) .

I wonder if the Hawks have anything that interests them? Would you trade JJ to Minny for the #2 pick and filler?

Najeh,

Artest and Marvin have very similar contracts remaining. 3 years, $22 mil for Artest (including a player option the second to last year), and 3 years, $22.5 mil for Marvin, including a player option the 3rd year).

Artest is not the defensive player he once was, but it would be interesting to see what effect he has on the team’s weak mentality. Also, maybe he does something crazy like opt out of his deal in 2012.

I would trade Marvin for him, but I dont think the Lakers are interested.

Astro Joe

May 18th, 2011
10:21 am

The only thing that concerns me about the Teague story is that supposedly there was a police file with his name in it back in June, 2009. And we drafted him in June, 2009. At that time, it was probably too “wide open” to know for sure of there was going to potentially be a real legal issue. Assuming that the Hawks paid for a background check (I know, huge F’ing assumption) they missed the police investigation in Miami. That, I find very disturbing.

Interesting to see that Sund’s deal was only extended for a single season and he now can go at the same time as LD. I think we’re looking at a lame-duck season as the ASG looks to sell off this team (not to mention the uncertainty of the labor negotiations). A new owner could have a fresh start in 12-13 with a new GM, new head coach and new CBA to navigate personnel moves. Meanwhile, I bet we maintain a fairly status quo course.

Hawks Fan

May 18th, 2011
10:22 am

Trade joe johnson for a lottery pick and resign jamal crawford and get tayshawn prince and more bench with the money from JJ’s contract

Melvin

May 18th, 2011
11:09 am

““This league has a habit, and I am just going to say habit, of producing some pretty incredible story lines,” Kahn said. “Last year it was Abe Pollin’s widow and this year it was a 14-year-old boy and the only thing we have in common is we have both been bar mitzvahed. We were done. I told Kevin: ‘We’re toast.’ This is not happening for us and I was right.””

When the NBA decides to show the entire lottery process (loading the correct amount of balls into the machine and making the 3 selections), I will back away from my “Rigged” conspiracy.

darrell starks

May 18th, 2011
11:21 am

Keep TEAGUE, JOSH, HORFORD and let JOE go.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

ILL-Logical

May 18th, 2011
11:28 am

The return of Sund; the possble return of the local ASG partners and the bio of the prospective new partner does not inspire feelings of joy in me. I will resist the impulse to characterize the proposed changes to the Hawks’ organization as re arranging the deck chairs on that infamouse unsinkable ocen liner but I just can’t feel good about the strong possibility that the new order of business will be to punish the innocent and reward the guilty.

ILL-Logical

May 18th, 2011
11:29 am

vava74

May 18th, 2011
11:35 am

Hawks Fan:

“Trade joe johnson for a lottery pick and resign jamal crawford…”

Yeah, and ride a guy who will be 32 next year, shot .333 from the floor and .170 from 3 point land against the Bulls whilst playing no defense and not giving us anything else significant in any other area of the game.

He did well against the Magic but don’t get carried away by that series.

JJ may have not put up a superstar performance against the Bulls but it was nothing like last year’s dud performance.

darrell starks

May 18th, 2011
11:36 am

Here are some teams that could be interesting in joe.
LAKERS PAUL FOR JOE
LAKERS STARTERS BLAKE, KOBE, JOE, LAMAR, BYNUM.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

May 18th, 2011
11:40 am

GRIZZLIES TONY, RUDY FOR JOE
GRIZZLIES STARTERS CONLEY, MAYO, JOE, ZACH, MARC
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

May 18th, 2011
11:46 am

HORNETS TREVOR, PAUL FOR JOE, TEAGUE,
HORNETS STARTERS TEAGUE, GREEN, JOE, WEST, OKAFOR
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

KevinM

May 18th, 2011
12:31 pm

Here is lots more details about the Teague incident and it has been addressed to what looks like a full extent by the authorities….

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6561839

Andy Katz gets the details from several people to help clear matters. I am sure JT was thinking all of this was behind him. Sure glad he wasn’t directly charged. That could have derailed where he is today.

Slim

May 18th, 2011
12:57 pm

Cleveland with their lotto luck, likely just found their SF & PG for the future. They’ve got a young PF in Hickson, and a hustle center in Verejao. If they’re looking to pair that group with an impact player, maybe they would make the following trade: Joe Johnson for Antawn Jamison’s expiring contract, Manny Harris & Semih Erden (spelling). Hawks could then flip Jamison’s expiring & a 2nd rd pick to Detroit for Rip Hamilton & Ben Wallace. This gives the Hawks a veteran/young duo at SG & C. This also clears about $2M in salary and almost opens up an MLE level addition for that 13th & final roster spot. Not a perfect team, but a lot more flexible with Wallace, Hinrich, Sy, Harris & Erden on expiring deals in 2012, and Smith, Pachulia, Teague & Hamilton expiring in 2013. Williams in 2014.

Teague / ***
Joe Johnson / John Salmons
Josh Smith / Williams
Larry Sanders/ Drew Gooden {Josh Smith
Andrew Bogut/

Ben Wallace is considering retiring. Hamilton as well. They have no trade value and pigeonhole this team even further. I like a move to put Erden on this team.

Furthermore either Danny Ainge is crazy or the NBA is rigged. In 2008 he set the blueprint Pierce at the 3 with Garnett’s and Perkins both close to 7′6 wingspans. Then they had bigs like Scott Pollard, Leon Powe, and PJ Brown coming off the bench.

Ainge traded Perkins for offense and what happened in the playoffs. Miami waltzed into the paint.

Now the Bulls are waltzing on Miami. Anybody who thinks any combination of small ball can beat the Heat is wrong. Not enough all star talent to circumvent a small ball lineup. Only in fantasy land.

Teague>Bibby/Chalmers
Hinrich<<<Wade
Johnson<<<<Lebron
Smith<<Anthony

Check Horford’s measurements and then watch the tapes. He plays exactly like Amare Stoudemire with shorter arms. A shorter wingspan = more jump shots, less post play, less dunks, liable to get blocked in the paint.
Too bad he doesn’t have 6′11 wingspan like Blake Griffin or a 7′2 like Amare. as is he is a more robotic version of David Lee.

Trade Horford and Marvin and Hinrich for Sanders + Bogut + Gooden + Salmons.

JoJo the Godfather

May 18th, 2011
1:01 pm

Teague is still a very young man. I don’t know him from Adam, but when I see his interviews and watch his mannerisms, he can sometimes come across as immature even for his age. Hopefully he’s got a good support group around him that can help him get through this situation. With playing time and development, I think this young man will be a heck of a player in a couple years. He can get by without a jumper if he’ll practice that floater about a 1,000 times a day, add some upper body strength, and focus on his ball handling and defense.

vava74

May 18th, 2011
2:03 pm

SOMETHING TO CHEW ON:

OK, so let us rewind a bit on Horford and recall his performances in the playoffs, including his “best years”:

2008 PLAYOFFS

He was very good – in particular for a rookie – against the Celtics, fresh from his Gators’ days.

However, it was Zaza who brought the “cojones” to the table with some serious head butting on Garnett.

2009 PLAYOFFS

He was decent/good against MIA, but got kind of punked by a broken down Jermaine O’Neill and by old man Magloire.

It was Zaza (again) to the rescue with a real man attitude in the boards and almost head butting half of the Heat team in a decisive game that got us going.

He was injured against CLE, so a non factor. Now we can start to doubt: was his injury so serious that he could not have produced better than he did, grinding it out? Or was he being soft?

PLAYOFFS 2010

He was severely punked by Kurt – I’ve been around since Tutankhamon – Thomas, in particular in the games which we lost. There were very clear signs of Horford shying away from the playoffs physical play.

He was reduced to cinders against Howard prompting him to cry saying that he was too small and preferred to play PF.

PLAYOFFS 2011

Punked by Bass (6′7”) and by Anderson (not exactly a force) and kept himself as further away from Howard as he could.

Collins and again Zaza to the rescue…

Punked by Boozer, Gibson, Asik, Noah, …

Again, Zaza was the most physical guy down low giving us some presence and some rebounding…

Aren’t you all seeing a very worrying trend? Am I being biased?

ALSO:

There is nothing “blue collar” in Diaper Al, IMO.

Diaper Al is – clearly – a competent “white collar”/ “office worker”:

steady, disciplined and dependable like an accountant but if you need heavy lifting and getting dirty, he checks out.

My goodness, I am reaching the conclusion that Tr..th Ser..m was right all along