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Atlanta Hawks: Season’s over

12:50 am May 13, 2011, by Michael Cunningham

  • The Hawks ran up against the Bulls’ defense at its best and they had no response. “That’s the best defense I’ve seen,” Jamal said.
  • The Bulls are a relentless, disciplined, and physical defensive team. “They don’t care about their man being open,” Josh said. “They help each other. They understand the ball needs to be stopped first.”
  • It’s not easy to score on the Bulls consistently over a seven-game series but the Hawks were relentless and disciplined on offense only occasionally during the series. Which, of course, also is the way it went for most of the season.
  • “I think we just got away from the things that are successful for us,” Al said. “We got some looks and they just didn’t fall and after that it was kind of a snowball effect on offense.”
  • “We made things tough on them with our defense,” D-Rose said. “We had to because they have a lot of great one-one-one players.”
  • Josh was the only aggressive and active guy early on. Al finished off a poor postseason with a miserable performance. J.J. and Jamal couldn’t do anything against Chicago’s pressure.
  • Teague was limited to 22 minutes because of a wrist injury. The Hawks missed his offensive punch. “He’s a tough kid,” Al said. “He wasn’t the same when he came back.”
  • Joe and Jamal weren’t the same since Game 1. Especially Jamal, who wasn’t as accustomed to being double teamed and never really seemed to figure out how to handle it.
  • “We burned them in Game 1 and they pretty much said, ‘We are taking you two out the rest of the series and make someone else beat us,’” Jamal said.
  • That’s a pretty good bet against the Hawks, especially since the Bulls could bring in waves of reserves and not see their defense drop off much, if at all.
  • Because Jamal and Marvin offered little, the benches ended up being Asik, Brewer, Korver, Watson and Gibson vs. Zaza.
  • “They contest everything but what goes under the radar is the depth of their team,” Al said. “They just kept coming. Their depth just wore us down eventually.”
  • In the first five games the Bulls had been able to count on D-Rose and one other guy, usually Deng, on offense. Deng got his tonight and Boozer also got in on the act by eating up Twin early rolling to 23 easy points.
  • The Hawks took Chicago to six games after getting swept in the second round of the last two seasons. “The last game could have been 3-2 us easily,” Jamal said. “It could have gone either way. We battled with the best team in the East. No one really gave us a chance.”
  • But it was another sour ending with a beatdown in an elimination game. “I think we were fighting,” Al said. “I would have been disappointed if we gave up and quit but you’ve for to give them credit.”
  • The key questions for the Hawks in the offseason include ASG’s search for buyers or investors, Rick Sund’s status and Jamal’s pending free agency.
  • The Hawks have to decide if this “core” group has gone as far as it can. “You have to bring Rick Sund down here for that,” Josh said. “I’m just a player. All I can do is play.”
  • As things stand now they don’t have a lot of financial flexibility but there’s a lot of uncertainty with the expiring CBA and the ownership situation.
  • “We have a good core but I think we need more, as you can tell,” Al said. “It was their depth that got us.”
  • “We’ve still got a lot of work to do,” Joe said. “Hopefully we keep adding pieces and keep making moves and keep getting better. We keep taking steps. It’s not been easy. Looking back at my first two years it was miserable.”
  • At least the Hawks know Teague can play. “I told him to come back from this summer with the same attitude and the same intensity he had this series,” J.J. said.
  • Sorry you couldn’t have a better ending, blog people. I’ll check in tomorrow after the exit interviews.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

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BerniePrescott

May 13th, 2011
9:57 am

I can honestly say that the Hawks didnt play with energy and effort last night until it was way too late. THERE WAS NOT THAT SENSE OF URGENCY AND THAT WAS SURPRISING TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE HAWKS WERE HOME IN THE COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT OF THE HIGHLIGHT FACTORY. I can understand the lack of effort if this game was in Chicago at the United Center. But to play a home game in a comfortable environment and play so lathargically, well that comes down to coaching and Larry Drew needs to be fired. I hope that hes fired by the end of today because that would not be soon enough. Everybody around the league is raving about how good Teague is and the talent on the Hawks. What the Hawks need now is a good coach who can extract the talent out of them and get them to play with effort and energy 100% of the time. There are at least three coaches out there who can accomplish this. Jerry Sloan, Rick Adleman and Phil Jackson. Contact them as soon as possible.

Ms.Chi

May 13th, 2011
10:29 am

I wish the bulls would have ended this is four but anyways our coaching is the best and that’s why ultimately why we won. Derrick rose is a great player and every single one of them gets along well its one big family . I didn’t see the hawks have that kind of chemistry…they arent well coached either…looks like they gave up

J.J.M.

May 13th, 2011
10:30 am

people really think the magic will trad dwight in their own division

KevinM

May 13th, 2011
10:37 am

The steps in this offseason:

1) Resolve the status of Sund. His contract is over. My guess is the ASG keeps it simple and ‘rewards’ him with another 2 year deal. While I disagree, this is the easy fix….the ASG don’t do anything out of the norm. They can’t even agree to be truthful to their fan base. We should expect very few improvements to appease the fan base. We will hear again how these guys really like each other and like playing together…yawn.

Right now, we are at best the 4th best team in the East. If that is good enough for the ASG, you won’t see many moves.

2) Coach Drew – yep, this postseason will allow him to come back for another season DESPITE ignoring Jeff Teague. I mean, totally ignoring him. I recall a young player named Tayshaun Prince, who was also treated this way his first season in Detroit. Prince was a late 1st rounder and couldn’t get off the bench, and, well, look here…

“In his rookie season under head coach Rick Carlisle, Prince was not a member of the team’s playing rotation and appeared in just 42 of 82 regular-season games. However, in the first round of the 2003 NBA Playoffs, Detroit trailed the Orlando Magic three games to one, forcing Carlisle to experiment with a different rotation. Prince was inserted into the lineup and received heavy minutes. He then went on to set an NBA record by being the only player in league history to score more points in the playoffs than in the regular season (137 in the season, 141 in the playoffs).”

It just seemed like JT scored more in the playoffs than the entire year, but he fell way short of that.

The Pistons rallied to win the series, and Prince had a breakout performance during the decisive seventh game, scoring 20 points in 24 minutes.[9] In the second round against the Philadelphia 76ers, Prince continued to see action and made several memorable plays, including a turnaround hook shot during the final seconds of the second game, forcing an overtime period that the Pistons went on to win.

So Prince got 40 DNPs his first year in the league until Carlisle, thinking he had limited resources, went with the rookie, and he took off from there. Tay has been a steady starter in Detroit since, making 2 Finals appearances, and bringing home one trophy after the days of the Bad Boys.

This is similar in that Drew had little choice but to go with JT. While the result isn’t the same that Tay had, this guy just played his way into the conversation. I had asked too many times why Carlisle would not give Tay a shot, and very similar to Drew’s approach. Yet here was Drew in the offseason after JT’s first year saying it was his job to take.

My point in all this is you gotta go with whom you drafted. Mistakes or not, you have to give them a shot. Lord knows Marvin has had his shot, Chills had his shot, Shellhead got his shot. You drafted them for some reason didn’t you? Why in the hail were we waiting for?

We just came off the most disastrous playoff run in history and you sit JT and tell him he isn’t good enough to see the floor?

Drew said this team made tremendous strides this playoff season compared to last, but did we really? We were competitive for most of the games, but we saw some of the 4th quarter issues that plagued this team all year, especially in Games 2 and 5 of the CHI series. We had our chances, and we woke up a very good defensive team in CHI. CHI now has a very good chance to get past Miami.

Coach Drew will be back; he has proven he can coach in this league. I like what he did by asking to bring over Pape Sy, who was no factor this year, but may turn out to be useful going forward. I like the way he handled Collins, who I never thought would be of any use. He was a hired gun for Orlando, and we got good results out of that.

So Drew does good things with Collins, Sy, moves Josh to the 3, and gets us to compete successfully against Orlando. That was the big hurdle we had to climb. Beyond that, there is work to be done for Drew and his staff.

Can we get better as a unit? I think we have peaked, but it will take a new voice (GM), to make any changes of significance. The Kirk deal may help us as it would have been Bibby’s last year as well (a little too late) and you never know with this club if they can bring in a good talent from the draft.

3) In looking at the other teams in the playoffs at this point, you see DRose, DWade, KDurant, DNowitski all with the teams that got them on draft day. (Nowitski was a Buck originally). I see Memphis whose top players from draft day are Conley, Gay and Battier. The rest were non-draft deals.

We seem to need to go more of the Memphis way if we are to continue to sustain this run of playoff basketball. We aren’t going to improve through the draft.

Rusty

May 13th, 2011
10:42 am

First of all to keep ld would be pure insanity,he failed on all levels of coaching & he is no rookie as he’s been here many years. As far as JJ goes this team will never be that good with him as he screws up any pattern offense by being to slow to do any thing but play iso ball. He can’t play with the pressure of that contract & his game is already taken a downturn. He actually hasn’t played that well in the last 2 years & he is far from being a leader. Josh smith just needs the right coach,I don’t know what’s wrong with horford . Jamal has to go,kh has to go ( too much money for what’s he worth) jt will be a real good pg to create our offense( the way an NBA offense should run) but not if ld is here. Mw needs to go, we need a few mid level players, but long as ld is here we will be wasting our time.

LouBerdette

May 13th, 2011
10:42 am

THE TWO HAWKS WHO RUINED THE GAME FOR THEM LAST NIGHT WAS #1:JAMAL CRAWFORD AND #2:ZSA ZSA. Zsa Zsa had that play in the third quarter where he gave up a Hawks possession by swinging his elbows for no reason. The Hawks had the ball and the momentum and they would have won the game, but Zsa Zsa wanted to show everyone how tough he was so he started swinging elbows needlessly. Unfortuntately those elbows connected with a Bulls player and we gave the ball back to the Bulls. Zsa Zsa should be find by the Hawks at least $75,000.00 for that play. It made no sense to me and I dont know what was the purpose of what he was trying to accomplish. The second guy who ruined the game for us was Jamal Crawford. Jamal made no effort at all to find his shooting rhythm and to get into his sweet spot and score points to help us win. Coming off of a mediocre performance of only 2 points from the previous game, you would think he would say ok I was embarrassed from the last game, I will make it up to the fans and players who watch us. Instead after the game he said, Did you see how great the Bulls defense was? Its impossible to score against them. You know what Jamal, thats nonsense. You already beat the Bulls at the United Center, but you were at home where the environment was conducive for a victory. INSTEAD YOU SIMPLY QUIT AND DECIDED, HEY I WONT BRING MY BEST EFFORT TONIGHT BECAUSE ITS A WASTE OF TIME. WE ARE GOING TO GET BLOWN OUT ANYWAY SO WHY SHOULD I MAKE ANY EFFORT AT ALL. I wont try at all, I’ll quit throw up the white flag and then praise the other team after the game. That my friends is foolishness and his guy needs to be run out of town on a rail.

Sautee

May 13th, 2011
10:50 am

Geez, the stupid trade suggestions are back. So many bad ideas. So little time.

The number of posters with no understanding of trade parameters is truly astonishing. Folks, it’s not a video game. The league actually has rules regarding trades that many of you are obviously clueless about.

My cross to bear if I want to read this blog, I guess.

I’m in favor of a big move, which will also be my cross to bear, since without an ownership change, nothing major is likely to happen.

Sigh.

Sautee

May 13th, 2011
10:56 am

Najeh,

Thanks for your even handed, sensible commentary. You were kickin’ it pretty good last night. I was much in agreement on many of your ideas, particularly about Joe.

DinasaurFenton

May 13th, 2011
11:01 am

priest: you are right on the money about Josh Smith. As clumsy as Josh looks at times, this guy has an incredible basketball IQ, AND his tools or raw potential skills are off the charts. You should have heard the things that former coach and tv analyst Hubie Brown said about Josh Smith. Smith has an unbelievable wealth of talent. The problem with Josh I believe is that Josh doesnt appear to be dedicated enough to polish his skills and improve them enough to where he is now as good as LaBron or D-Wade. Trust me folks, if Josh Smith improves and sharpens his skills, cuts down on his turnovers AND takes fewer long-range jumpshots, THE HAWKS WILL FEEL THE IMPACT OF JOSH SMITH EVEN MORE AND HE WILL BECOME AN INSTANT ALL-STAR. To take it one step further, if Josh works on his footwork, cleans up his clumsiness near the basket, JOSH HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SURPASS LABRON AND D-WADE AND HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE. PERIOD. END OF STORY.

It was not a bad pick

May 13th, 2011
11:16 am

Hate to see the Hawks lose..But, I am happy to see Marvin can now get out of ATL..i have never seen a franchise ruin a talented player like Marvin.He will be a 20 ppg player in the NBA..He has never played with adecent coach ..With the emergence of JT, the Hawks only need a CENTER..The hawks are trying their best to ruin Al by playing him at C..He was clearly wore down after having to bang with guys 3 or 4 inches bigger..we also made a horrible move by trading Jordan Crawford for a pg, when we had a better one burning on the bench..The morale of the story is this…

UNTIL WE GET A CENTER, A DECENT COACH, WHO WILL USE HIS TALENT, WE ARE NEVER GOING TO MAKE IT PAST THE 2ND ROUND

Neki Ecko

May 13th, 2011
11:38 am

Well, I had a chance to sleep it over and doing some thinking about what road that the Hawks needs to take during this offseason. First of all, if Gilbert A, Lewis and Baron Davis can be traded with their awful contracts then JJ can be traded too.

Management: ASG has a decided to make, is it to 1) Geared up and actually complete for a ring or 2) being a 2rd Round Fodder for the next couple of years, and you have to think about the younger teams like Bobcats, Nets(with a lot of cap room), Sixers and others will be getting a lot better and more assets.

HC/GM: I think that Rich Sund GM’s day is numbered, and I don’t think that he will be returning to the team. For LD, now that is a hard decision because he know that he got us past Magic but the Magic was not the same team that beat us down last year. I would give him the benefit of the doubt and let him return but they need a long term commitment with a coach that can get respect from the players, not buddy-buddy with them (i.e. getting in Josh face when he keep jack up jumpers or getting into Joe or Al when they don’t produce and commit stupid mistakes). LD has to go and this will also be a good tool so we can try to get Howard/and or Paul in 2012.
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layers: As of right now, the only players I would keep is Teague(trade bait for CPIII, if that happens), Josh (with a veteran coach, will do wonders, I hope), Collins(a Vet Min), Zaza (unless use as a trade filler), Wilkins, Hinrick (that contract is so important), Sy, and Rolle

Horford, Crawford, Williams needs to be trade, I think that Horford can get a good deal for him and Crawford will be signed and trade and Williams just need to go period.

Now that leave Joe Johnson, I understand that he had been double team and beat up by the Bulls, but you are getting paid as a #1 option and do you think that Kobe, Wade and Rose get beat up every game but they keep produce but Joe, he just disappear and I think that we need to look for any takers for him. He is a #2 option and never will be a #1 option unless he played like he did in Game 1 all the time.
At the end, I know that we want to get this core one more shot but with the CBA about to expired and younger teams is coming up, it is time to change the talons of the Hawks.

Teezo

May 13th, 2011
11:49 am

All I see is ppl trying to get rid of JJ or JJ is overpaid…JJ didn’t pay himself, ASG did, and yall fail to realize JJ was gonna get that money regardless from some other team…And do yall even watch these games…When you are constantly double/triple teamed and none of your teamates are cutting or slashing to get open, of course bad things will happen…When the Hawks trapped Rose all you seen was Deng, Boozer, Noah ect moving around to make it easier for him and our players stood around until JJ had to force it into a TO or a bad shot…I fault JJ for not being a more aggresive player, but thats where management need to see that JJ needs a sidekick..No other player on our team get that attention…Please get JJ some real help, its not HIS contract thats hurting the team, its the other contracts that seem to be useless…Remember the money JJ got was his money only!!! ASG couldn’t use that money to bring in somebody else, so it was either pay JJ or watch him leave…Anyway, I thought that topic was done….GET JJ SOME REAL HELP!!!!!

GrandmaWilliams

May 13th, 2011
11:52 am

THE HAWKS WOULD HAVE NEVER GOTTEN A CHANCE TO PLAY CHICAGO AND THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN ELIMINATED BY ORLANDO HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE HERCULEAN EFFORT FROM MARVIN WILLIAMS. MARVIN WILLIAMS SAVED OUR SEASON AND FOR ALL THE ROTTEN THINGS THAT ARE SAID ABOUT HIM, and trust me this guy is a no-talent bum, MARVIN WILLIAMS SAVED THE HAWKS IN THE ORLANDO SERIES AND ENABLED THE HAWKS TO MAKE IT TO THE CONFERENCE SEMI-FINALS against the Bulls. We certainly would not have come to within 2 games of making the ECFs. Only the 1988 team made it one game further. That team with its classic game 7 duel with Dominique and Larry Bird, came within a single game of making the ECF. HAD THAT 1988 TEAM WON GAME 7, THEY WOULD HAVE MADE THE ECF AND SUBSEQUENTLY WON THE TITLE. Of course, coming close means nothing, but this Hawks team came closer than all but 1 Hawks team. Not bad for a team of OVERACHIEVERS. The sad part and the irony of it all is that THIS HAWKS TEAM, IN MY OPINION, WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT THE BULLS IN SEVEN GAMES. UNFORTUNATELY THEY WERE UNABLE TO PROVE IT TO THE WORLD.

Worldwide Clyde

May 13th, 2011
12:04 pm

Rio

Good season for the Hawks.

Atlanta Spirit Sucks

May 13th, 2011
12:06 pm

Join the party, tell everyone what you think of the DASG.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Atlanta-Spirit-Sucks/114671988618038

LucySmith

May 13th, 2011
12:09 pm

THE HAWKS JUST SIMPLY DIDNT BELIEVE FOR ONE SECOND THAT THEY WERE BETTER THAN CHICAGO. IF THEY HAD BELIEVED IT, THEN IT WOULD HAVE COME TO FRUITION ON THE COURT. JAMAL CRAWFORD WOULD HAVE COME TO PLAY AND MADE SURE HE AVERAGED HIS 25 POINTS IN THE SERIES. JAMAL DIDNT CARE AND FELT IT WAS BETTER FOR HIM TO AVERAGE 4 POINTS AND GET THE SCORING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. I HOPE THE HAWKS RELEASE CRAWFORD AND LET HIM FIND HIS BIG PAYDAY FROM SOME OTHER TEAM. JAMAL PLAYED LIKE A SCARED CHICKEN OUT THERE LAST NIGHT. SO DID HORFORD. SO DID SMITH. MARVIN SHOULD BE CUT FROM THE ROSTER AS SOON AS TOMORROW. THE HAWKS SHOULD ALL SCHEDULE APPOINTMENTS WITH PSYCIATRISTS BECAUSE THEY NEED TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND REALIZE THAT THEY WERE BETTER THAN WHAT THEY SHOWED THIS YEAR. THINK ABOUT THIS. HOW DOES A TEAM WITH VIRTUALLY THE SAME ROSTER GO FROM 53 VICTORIES DOWN TO 44 A YEAR LATER. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. ITS AS IF THEY WERE LOOKING TO GO BACKWARDS. IT JUST DOESNT ADD UP WITH ME. I GUESS NEXT YEAR THEY WILL SHOOT FOR NINE FEWER VICTORIES AND END UP WITH 35 AND TRY TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AS AN EIGHTH SEED. WHO KNOWS. THIS HAWKS TEAM AND PLAYERS NEED TO SEE PSYCIATRISTS. THEIR MINDS ARE MIXED UP. THEY DONT TRY HARD AND PLAY WITH EFFORT AND ENERGY. LARRY DREW HAS PREACHED TO THEM ALL SEASON, ALL HE WANTS FROM THEM IS 100% EFFORT AND 100% ENERGY. THEY ALL THINK THAT DREW IS ASKING TOO MUCH FROM THEM. THEY DIDNT HAVE ENERGY IN THEIR STEPS UNTIL ABOUT 5 MINUTES LEFT IN THE GAME WHEN REALITY SET IN THAT THEY WERE GOING HOME FOR THE SUMMER. THEY THEN MADE A LAST-DITCH EFFORT TO COME BACK AND WIN THE GAME, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE COME OUT OF THE STARTING GATES WITH THAT BOUNCE IN THEIR STEPS DETERMINED TO WIN THE GAME. THE HAWKS STINK AND THEY NEED TO MAKE DRASTIC CHANGES. AL HORFORDS SHOT SELECTION WAS ATROCIOUS. HE KEPT GETTING THE BALL IN HIS SWEET SPOT AND HE KEPT GIVING IT AWAY TO SOMEONE ELSE INSTEAD OF SCORING THE BASKETBALL. AL IS PAID TO SCORE THE BASKETBALL AND HE WAS AFRAID TO DO JUST THAT. AL NEEDS TO WORK ON HIS FEAR FACTOR. HE PLAYED LIKE A SCARED OWL. SO DID CRAFORD. THE HAWKS DIDNT PLAY LIKE THE CHAMPIONS THEY COULD HAVE BECOME HAD THEY BEATEN THE BULLS AND THE HEAT AND EVENTUALLY KNOCKED OFF EITHER THE MAVS OR THE THUNDER. THE HAWKS COULD HAVE WON THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP THIS SEASON BECAUSE THERE WERE NO CELTICS OR LAKERS TO STOP THEM. THE HAWKS BLEW THEIR CHANCE TO BE WORLD CHAMPIONS AND NOW I THINK THE FANS ARE GOING TO WAIT AT LEAST 100 YEARS FOR THEM TO GET BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE THIS SEASON. GREAT SEASON HAWKS. TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

darrell starks

May 13th, 2011
12:11 pm

Hawks had a good season.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

bjrufino

May 13th, 2011
12:13 pm

Let’s try to sign Nick Young, He’s young and athletic.
Trade Marvin and Smith for Dwight Howard

Lineup:
Teague
Young
Johnson
Horford
Howard

darrell starks

May 13th, 2011
12:19 pm

ASG have make a decision on what they want do, since the thrashers are on they way out, ASG should divide partnership and cut back to four owners, but decision has 2 be made period.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

May 13th, 2011
12:23 pm

CBA agreement will not be made anytime soon according to rumors that 80percent of the owners are loosing money, will there be and NBA season next year?
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mykhalc

May 13th, 2011
12:29 pm

@Najeh…great breakdown on page 1.

totally agree with doc…NO to Brandon Roy’s knees!!!

LuellaPatterson

May 13th, 2011
12:29 pm

The Hawks need an inside scorer on the low block who has great moves like NeNe of the Denver Nuggets. They also need a guy who can hit 3s from the outside like Rashad Lewis. Another guy who is good at making 3s when he is hot is J.R. Smith of Denver. There is also Rudy Gay out there who can be obtained, what about Baron Davis or even Brandon Roy.
The Hawks Shopping List should look like this:
Brandon Roy
Rudy Gay
J.R. Smith
NeNe
Rashad Lewis
Chris Paul

If we can get this group of players on our team and get rid of a few on our side:
Marvin Williams
Kirk Hinrich

Then we would then have a team who can compete for all the marbles. Looks good Hawks, go out and imrprove the club and make yourselves better.

darrell starks

May 13th, 2011
12:38 pm

The hawks have to get superstar in here, as much as i like teague who have become my fav.player along with josh, CHRIS PAUL IS ON HIS WAY OUT, ASG must make a decision and bring a star player in here it’s only a good investment that will take this team to the next level.
JOE, TEAGUE FOR PAUL, TREVOR ARIZA, go get CHRIS PAUL.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ant banks

May 13th, 2011
12:41 pm

RULE #1
if you come up wit’ a trade proposal for the hawks, please explain the benefits for BOTH teams. if we know that marvin sux, why in the hell would another team give us a pot of gold for our pot of aluminum?

i get tired of readin’ marvin for k. love or marvin/2 draft picks for kobe.

darrell starks

May 13th, 2011
12:47 pm

STARTER CHRIS PAUL, TREVOR, JOSH, HORFORD, ?

NegativeNancy

May 13th, 2011
12:54 pm

Its true that Chris Paul is on his way out but I think he would be too expensive for the Hawks. We should have had CP3 because we should have drafted CP3 ahead of Marvin Williams. Folks, if CP3 was our point guard and we had just played the Bulls, we would have beaten the Bulls and won the championship with the way our roster currently is set. OK we dont have Chris Paul, but I dont think we can afford him. Maybe if we got Trever Ariza instead and had him back up Teague and trade Hinrich and Williams for Rashad Lewis. That is a Hawks team that I could get excited about. That trade right there would give us 60 wins next year. We just missed that ourside scoring punch and Lewis is an incredible 3-point marksman. The magic went all the way to the finals with Rashad Lewis. He would look great in a Hawks uniform.

darrell starks

May 13th, 2011
12:56 pm

With Jamal 10mill of the book next here is a list of center.
TYSON CHANDLER
KWAME BROWN
YAO MING
SAMUEL DALEMBERT
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Little Fawkers

May 13th, 2011
12:57 pm

What was different about this season than any of the others? Round two and out.

If we don’t make major changes before next year I won’t be following these Hawks anymore. Remember four years ago when everyone was thinking we were going to be like the Thunder are now? That is a joke. Trade players, release players. Anything! Just make a change.

Little Fawkers

May 13th, 2011
12:58 pm

This is why people laugh at Atlanta fans. You guys are posting “great season” and “go hawks” when we did nothing special this year. Getting in the playoffs is NOT the goal. Winning it all is and that is why teams like the Lakers succeed. Failure is not an option like it is in Atlanta.

#LOSERS

Jay Dubu

May 13th, 2011
12:59 pm

2010 Damion James
2009 Jeff Teague
2008 – no pick
2007 Al Horford #3 overall pick
2007 Acie Law – #11 overall pick
2006 Sheldon Williams #5 overall pick
2005 Marvin Williams #2 overall pik
2004 Josh Childress #6 overall pick
2004 Josh Smith #17 overall pick
2003 Boris Diaw #21 overall pick
2002 David Andersen #36 overall pick
2001 Pau Gasol #3 overall pick

Ten years of 1st round draft picks, and the Hawks have 2 players, Al & J Smith, and a possible, Teague, that will be a major impact on their team.

That’s a bad spades hand…1 and a possible.

hawksfancents95

May 13th, 2011
1:00 pm

im tellin u a horford and marvin with a future 1st for monta ellis and jeremy lin or rodney carney trade would work, also zaza and our 2nd in 2011 or 2012 for spencer hawes
teague
ellis
joe
josh
hawes
wow! that is a hawks squad to fear

darrell starks

May 13th, 2011
1:01 pm

The hawks have no tru leader on this team, if the hawks bring in chirs paul he would be the perfect leader and the face of this organization that will curse out josh for not playing in the paint and also kick horford in his azz for playing so dam soft, this is what the hawks need a true leader.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

May 13th, 2011
1:07 pm

LD have to go if the hawks are going 2 next level.
like i said before Bill Laimbeer will take this team to the next level, and also i do like mike brown.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

May 13th, 2011
1:16 pm

2011 COACH BILL LAIMBEER OR MIKE BROWN
STARTER PAUL, TREVOR, JOSH, HORFORD, TYSON CHANDLER OR DALEMBERT.
BENCH HINRICH, DAMIEN, AL THORTON, MARVIN, ZAZA
RESERVE COLLINS, PAPE SY
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mason

May 13th, 2011
1:22 pm

What are you talking about Darrell?

darrell starks

May 13th, 2011
1:50 pm

@ MASON
1. Hire a new coach Bill Laimbeer OR Mike Brown
2. Trade Joe, Teague for Paul, Trevor
3. Jamal 10mill is off the book next year so use that and sign a center.
4. Free agent sign Al Thorton it want cause that much plus he a solid player.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

northcyde

May 13th, 2011
2:32 pm

superiorblogman

May 13th, 2011
5:31 am

Northcyde: You really never make valid points. Go away, you are one of the few idiots that maintain that Hinrich move was a good trade. You also maintained for the longest that Teague was not any good. You have no idea about talent so it does not matter that it wins out in the NBA because you like the Hawks organization have a problem recognizing it

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LOL . . this coming from a dude that tries to make everything into a racial issue.

Not only are you stupid, you’ve never read a word I wrote, if you believe I thought the Hinrich deal was a good one. I’ve NEVER said that deal was good.

- On the poll the AJC had up, I voted that it wasn’t a good deal, because it was a bare minimum type move we made. I also didn’t like the fact that we gave up the guy who could’ve replaced Jamal as the scorer type off the bench ( Jordan Crawford ). Acquiring Hinrich was an upgrade from Bibby, but it wasn’t a move to put us into contender status. So we gave up too much for that dude.

- I called Hinrich a “mediocre PG” from the jump, because he is. He did play well in the Orlando series though, even though your dumb azz refused to give him props for that.

- I said that fans would turn on Hinrich in 2 weeks after coming to the Hawks. It actually took 3 weeks

- I doubted Teague had that “inner dog” and questioned his leadership ability, because he didn’t show the fire needed to run the 2nd unit when the game counted. But once Teague played a few games with the starters and played well, I came to the conclusion that Teague simply needed to play with more talented players, and not alongside Jamal . . who dominated the ball at all times. And because LD didn’t trust him one bit, he didn’t play him until he HAD to play him. Teague took full advantage of the playing time and showed out. So I give him much credit for that.

- I said back in late February/early March that to possibly get the most out of this lineup, that Teague and Zaza should be the starters, even if you just play them in the beginning of the 1st and 3rd quarters. There were signs even back then that our frontline wasn’t strong enough on the boards, especially the offensive boards, to get it done against the more talented teams. Both guys seemed to play much better alongside JJ, Josh, and Al, than as role players with the 2nd unit.

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As with all fans, everything I say doesn’t come true or isn’t right ( including what your dumb azz spews out on here ). And I have no problem admitting I was wrong about something. Teague finally showed to me that he can ball when the game counted. So now, the main issue is can he develop into a real good PG that plays decent every night?

So in closing . . . STFU dude.

brigadierjerry

May 13th, 2011
2:32 pm

Joe Johnson & Horford for Bynum, Artest, and filler

or

Knicks Get:

Johnson
Horford

Hawks Get:

Billups
Turiaf
Balkman
Fields
Douglas

all depends on how CBA turns out

drmaryb (*_-)

May 13th, 2011
2:44 pm

Aye! Don’t mess with northcyde!

He is an ICONIC blogger. The best of the best.
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Hey “norty” how’s the digestion coming along. Grand-Daddy got jealous and joined in on the gall-bladder removal party. He is truly your brother now, oh well … at least you have a support group now.

Sick ‘Em!

northcyde

May 13th, 2011
2:56 pm

My Joe Johnson trade scenarios were just simply illustrating that if a team really wanted him, they would trade for him. But the Hawks may have to take a lopsided deal ( when it came to cap space ), or give up an extra piece or two, in order to get the player(s) they wanted.

But don’t believe for one minute that JJ’s contract can’t be moved. A team desperate to win a title, and thinking that they are one player away, will trade for JJ and his contract if they believe he’s the missing piece.

I mean . . Gilbert Arenas got traded, despite being owed almost 65 million over the next 3 years, and being 50% of the player JJ is right now.

As for free agency overall, the Hawks could definitely be a player in it. But you have to make the right player evaulations and use the chips we have, in order to bring in the type of players we need to improve the team.

To me, nobody is untouchable on this roster, if we can bring in the right types of players in here. This group, as is, is NOT one or two players away from being a contender. They first and foremost need Teague to really develop into a top 10 PG, if nothing else happens. Then they need to trade one of the core in order to bring a better player to give us more star power . . or trade or a collection of players to make us a more deeper team.

The lack of quality depth, especially on the frontline, really did this team in this year.

Misspelled T-Party Sign

May 13th, 2011
2:57 pm

SUE BILLY KNIGHT FOR EVERYTHING WE PAID HIM!

northcyde

May 13th, 2011
3:01 pm

@drmaryb . . . I’ve read all of the horror stories about people who have had this surgery and the disruptions that they’ve had in their lives, but the fact is that I’ve had very little problems since the surgery (( knock on wood )).

The only thing I’ve noticed is that I have to eat a little slower than what I normally ate. I was a notoriously fast eater though, so that’s a good thing that I’m slowing down. Eating slower reduces the possible “bile dumping” that goes on when your liver has to process and break down all of that food.

It’s been a full month after the surgery, and I feel fine. Scars healed up pretty good as well. I thank God for blessing me and enabling me to make a full recovery with little issues.

Wabe

May 13th, 2011
3:04 pm

Ok, so JJ’s contract can be moved.

Doesn’t mean this organization’s gonna move ish around or make any changes.

I know now’s the time of the year for most folks to dish out fantasy trades and moves, but, this organization won’t do ish. I co-sign with what northcyde said in one of his posts earlier. The exact same team can’t come back, it just can’t. That’s an option that cannot be on the table. There must be some type of change, either blowing the thing up or adding peices to the core. But, that’s what most folks have been screaming for a long time, and not ish has happened. I also agree with what Najeh wrote in one of his posts about Joe. He is who he is, we all know his game, and I couldn’t have put it any better than he did about Joe’s tendancy to rack up role player numbers when he faces aggressive/solid defenses.

But, at the end of the day, this franchise won’t do ish. They definitely won’t move the guy that they signed to a max deal less than a year ago still. Do you see that happening? They won’t blow the core up. The only hope the Hawks have is to add to the group already assembled.

Doggy

May 13th, 2011
3:15 pm

I agree with Misspelled T-Party Sign… Sue Billy Knight for everything he has but also let the fans punish him for his negligence. Perhaps set up a dunk-billy tank or bean billy night!

BILLY KNIGHT

May 13th, 2011
3:19 pm

Doggy what ?

Doggy

May 13th, 2011
3:21 pm

Oh hey Billy! Where’s all that money you stole from us?

It was not a bad pick

May 13th, 2011
3:22 pm

The hawks only need a TRUE center and a COACH and we run away with the East next year!

Doggy

May 13th, 2011
3:22 pm

Dream on! We missed our chance to build a top-notch team!

Misspelled T-Party Sign

May 13th, 2011
3:34 pm

Hmmm…. 2003 – Boris Diaw-Riffiod, 2004 – Josh Childress, 2005 – Marvin Williams (bust), 2006 – Shelden Williams (another Duke bust!), 2007 – Al Horford.

Almost all of these were top five choices in the first round.

WAY TO GO BILLY!!

drmaryb (*_-)

May 13th, 2011
3:35 pm

Slow Down!

“norty” If you were a Braves player, Bobby cox would have called you:
“NORTY”. LOL!

Yeah man, the worst thing ever invented was “Fast Foods”
& “Drive Thrus”. Remember when, Grandmother always said,
“Wait one hour before going swimming after eating.”
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Taking your time to enjoy a meal is something we should all do always.
In European culture, they have “siesta”. Daily and from 12 Noon to 4 PM, the family converges upon the house, after gathering fresh foods from the farmer’s market and eat lunch, followed by a long nap.

Problem is they return to work from 4PM – 8PM. The whole thing ois centered around that dinner time. Interesting? No, vital to health and longevity. This culture does not have child hood obesity issues, digestion ailments, heart problems and a host of other stressful issues that we Americans do. They live longer, better and enjoy improved health.
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It’s all about that all important meal. The fuel for life is like premium gasoline to a car’s engine. No Hard Knocks in life or engines.

Anywho’ I’m glad you are doing well.

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