Atlanta Hawks at Bulls Game 5: On energy and effort

Chicago–If you are skeptical about how much those favored NBA cliches of “energy and effort” factor into winning then perhaps this series has changed your mind a bit. There have been scrums and scraps around the basket on what seems like every loose ball in this series, and I think there’s something to be said for energy and effort in these circumstances.

Defense and rebounding are undervalued as talents, and certainly it’s true that some players can try hard but just don’t have what it takes to be good in those areas. But maybe physically gifted guys can be better at defending and rebounding if they have the zest for it, especially within the team concept.

The Bulls are a good defensive team because they have good defensive players and a sound scheme but what good would any of that be without their single-minded devotion to getting stops and then securing the ball at all costs? Isn’t that energy?

Or is it like Doc Rivers likes to say, that energy is a talent, and so it’s really not helpful to think of it as something separate from “tangible” talent?

It’s pretty obvious the Hawks’ energy level has increased during the playoffs. That has correlated with the Hawks allowing just 101.9 points per 100 possessions in the playoffs, 2.7 points better than during the season, and that’s including the outliers of Game 5 vs. Orlando and Game 3 vs. Chicago.

“I’ve been pleased because I feel like the guys have really bought in to what we are trying to do,” Al said. “It’s never going to be perfect but you can make up for certain mistakes and certain things [with energy] and I feel like we’ve been doing that.”

Certainly sound game plans against Dwight and D-Rose have been major factors in Atlanta’s success. Some favorable matchups have helped, too.

But I’m thinking Atlanta’s energy also has been important–and that’s coming from someone who rolls his eyes when players and coaches (and media types) use that word to explain unexpected performances when there are more obvious reasons.

“We are an energy team,” L.D. said today. “There are times we just come out and we just don’t play that way for some reason. We have the athletes. It’s just a matter of coming out with energy, and I am totally expecting that tonight.”

That’s always the question with the Hawks. Can you expect that tonight? Any night? Jamal summed it up yesterday:

“We’ve shown we can play with anybody, and some nights we can play with nobody. That’s the most frustrating part for us.”

Which version of the Hawks shows up depends on more than just how hard they play. But in the end, when the Hawks and Bulls are fighting for every possession to gain control of this grinding series, maybe that’s will matter the most.

“I expect us to come out and the effort will be there,” Al said. “I feel like we have been played well in this building two games. One night we had a great shooting night; the other night we struggled. But I think our effort was good. That’s my biggest thing. We need to come out and just play hard.”

Notes, quotes and links

  • L.D. said he’s likely to stick with the Twin lineup.
  • Bogans (ankle) will play.
  • Joe on the big moment: “It’s right there. It’s in our hands. We just have to focus in on winning another game in Chicago. It’s definitely possible. I am sure we can get it done.”
  • L.D. on if he’s happy about shot selection: “That varies game to game.”
  • L.D. on pressure: “They are one of the teams that was picked to come out of the East. A win here puts a tremendous amount of pressure on them to go back to Atlanta with us having a chance to close it out. I feel like the pressure is on them.”
  • L.D. on Bynum’s BS takedown of Barea: “We don’t condone those type fouls where you are taking people out of the air and really trying to hurt somebody. That’s not the way the game should be played. The game should be played with hard fouls, though. You are talking about fouls that are not going to injure people or hurt people or put in jeopardy of their careers being on the line.”
  • L.D. on matching up with Chicago: “Obviously Rose is the MVP of the league. What he accomplished this year is absolutely remarkable. Hats off to him. But looking at the rest of the roster–they have good players, solid players, good role players, guys that play really hard–and we like to feel we match up well against them. . . . Throughout this league there are certain teams you match up well with and some teams that give you problems, and we look at this as a team that we do match up well with, irregardless of what happened in the regular season. Looking at it man-for-man, we feel like we match up really well.”
  • Damien on Smoove: “We go as No. 5 goes. Joe is our go-to guy, but we go as No. 5 goes. The better he plays, the better we play. He can do so many different things. I wish he would do it all the time. That wasn’t even a great game for him [in Game 4].”
  • Jamal did a radio interview.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

945 comments Add your comment

Najeh Davenpoop

May 10th, 2011
8:36 pm

Steve Kerr is right. With these players on the floor if Joe and Jamal are not hitting the Hawks are in trouble. The reason, though, is because Jamal can’t check Rose on the perimeter and nobody can contest his shots in the lane. Jamal and Zaza on the floor at the same time with no Smoove has that major disadvantage for the Hawks.

Another missed jumper for Marvin the invisible man. At this point no reason not to give Damien his minutes.

bigdave

May 10th, 2011
8:36 pm

Al didnt even contest on either of the Rose lay ups.. simply fell back into the body of Noah.

Melvin

May 10th, 2011
8:36 pm

Already -5 in less than 2 mins of playing time for the Hawks bench.

Luke Cage

May 10th, 2011
8:37 pm

Since Marvin’s shot has been off his entire career maybe dude should play closer to the basket, just sayin’

bigdave

May 10th, 2011
8:37 pm

is Horford going to foul a guard this playoff?

LionHearted

May 10th, 2011
8:37 pm

JAMAL CANT BE THE PG

steven

May 10th, 2011
8:37 pm

aaahhh see the bad hawks showed up tonight…smh…we don’t ever come back soo this game is OVA!

SteveW

May 10th, 2011
8:38 pm

We pulled Teague and Josh out at the same time – there goes our energy

Knew LD couldn’t wait to pull Teague – just like the regular season

northcyde

May 10th, 2011
8:39 pm

Rose and Boozer with 6 shots, Deng with 5.

Meanwhile, JJ only has 2 shots, with Horford already putting up 5.

( shrugging shoulders )

This is what happens when the wrong people shoot the ball.

Sautee

May 10th, 2011
8:39 pm

bigdave,

On the second one, Rose was a blur. Al never had a chance.

SteveW

May 10th, 2011
8:39 pm

I think they are afraid Deng will post up Wilkens.

Luke Cage

May 10th, 2011
8:39 pm

I’ve been begging for a HARD FOUL on Rose all series, but we are just parting the red sea for this dude, he isn’t being touched….Put him on his A$$!!!

northcyde

May 10th, 2011
8:39 pm

Wow . . what is Drew doing with this lineup on the floor?

Rev in Tampa

May 10th, 2011
8:39 pm

That Bogan backcut was just lazy defense by Jamal

Najeh Davenpoop

May 10th, 2011
8:40 pm

Slow rotations for the Hawks when they double team.

Hawks are in trouble right now.

Luke Cage

May 10th, 2011
8:40 pm

SteveW

May 10th, 2011
8:40 pm

This game is far from over, we can still win it

Brad

May 10th, 2011
8:40 pm

This is considered a bad start

LionHearted

May 10th, 2011
8:40 pm

JAMAL IS TERRIBLE

cp

May 10th, 2011
8:40 pm

smh this is ugly wtf is going on

bigdave

May 10th, 2011
8:40 pm

Hawks about to lose the game in the 1st qrrt.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 10th, 2011
8:40 pm

Another layup with no contest at the rim.

Luke Cage

May 10th, 2011
8:40 pm

Getting a lil out of hand fellas, need to close this qtr strong.

bigdave

May 10th, 2011
8:41 pm

sick of Al Marvin and Jamal’s act

SteveW

May 10th, 2011
8:41 pm

Maybe that’s why they brought ZaZa in for a hard foul or 2 on Rose

I don’t think ZaZa is quick enough to catch Rose

Brad

May 10th, 2011
8:41 pm

Josh goes out with 2 fouls + jamal coming in = everything falls apart

steven

May 10th, 2011
8:41 pm

have we ever come back from a double digit deficit this year

Ole Hawks Fan

May 10th, 2011
8:41 pm

JC1 is playing PG and NO DEFENSE

northcyde

May 10th, 2011
8:41 pm

Zaza setting nice screens out there.

Lacsho

May 10th, 2011
8:41 pm

OMG, can someone on this team grab their damn nuts, and put rose on his f*ckin back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then you take Teague and Josh out at the same damn time, and put in Marvin “Can we say clueless”.

Last but not least, if Josh is posting up, Please get HIM the Damn ball every trip down the COURT!!!!!

Peace To The Originals,

Sho

bo

May 10th, 2011
8:41 pm

Al is garbage

bigdave

May 10th, 2011
8:41 pm

all you gotta do is contest.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 10th, 2011
8:42 pm

SteveW

May 10th, 2011
8:42 pm

I say take Horford out and bring in Collins to check Noah, and put ZaZa on Boozer till you get Josh back in

Luke Cage

May 10th, 2011
8:42 pm

Its not even the defense of the bulls, its more of what we aren’t doing thus far

SteveW

May 10th, 2011
8:42 pm

AS Al makes the block, stupid me

And bring Wilkens in for Marvin

bigdave

May 10th, 2011
8:43 pm

Ole Hawks Fan

May 10th, 2011
8:43 pm

Stern has called the refs and wants to make sure The Bulls win this game.

SteveW

May 10th, 2011
8:43 pm

It’s not like their killing us

Keep Rose shooting 3’s

Brad

May 10th, 2011
8:43 pm

Could have been worse honestly – we are still OK

northcyde

May 10th, 2011
8:43 pm

Yes @ steven . . against the Bulls in early March.

bigdave

May 10th, 2011
8:43 pm

once again, we have to play catch up.

cp

May 10th, 2011
8:43 pm

@northcyde I was just saying how I dont like the lineup on the court

Melvin

May 10th, 2011
8:43 pm

I want to see Damien get some PT over Marvin…

Rod from College Park

May 10th, 2011
8:43 pm

First block by A on a point guard driving in 2 years

bo

May 10th, 2011
8:43 pm

There is a reason teams part ways with Jamal . Think about it

steven

May 10th, 2011
8:44 pm

Ahh I do remember that comeback. Hopefully the deficit won’t get that bad..

Brandon

May 10th, 2011
8:44 pm

Terrible first quarter for the Hawks. Josh really was bringing the energy at the start, and once he went out with foul trouble, the energy level dropped dramatically. The Hawks needs to attack inside more because the perimeter players have Joe and Jamal locked down right now. We need to feed the post more.

Rod from College Park

May 10th, 2011
8:44 pm

“Al” damn this I-phone

Najeh Davenpoop

May 10th, 2011
8:44 pm

Two things to look for: who is winning the battle on the boards, and how many points the Bulls’ supporting cast is getting.

Chicago only has one more board than the Hawks so far. That’s not so bad.

But 23 points for the Bulls other than Derrick Rose in that quarter on 9/14 shooting is horrible. If that continues the Hawks don’t have a chance. Keep the Bulls overly dependent on Rose offensively and watch the lead shrink.