Atlanta Hawks: Larry Drew to Josh Smith: About those jump shots . . .

Ken S. reports that L.D. isn’t happy about Josh’s shot selection in Game 2. More from Drew on his meeting with Josh:

“I thought he was trying to do too much. He admitted it, that that was the case. He didn’t feel good about how he was playing. I was going to take him out early in the third quarter. Something told me to leave him in there, kind of let him see if he could play through it, and he did exactly that. I thought for about a five-minute stretch, he got us back in the ballgame on his energy and his effort and just hustling. I think he came up with four blocked shots in that stretch, got out on a break and got a dunk, got a three-point play in that stretch. . . . He is a very unique player. He can impact the game on both ends of the floor. I know since I’ve been here, we haven’t had a player like him that can do that. He has to be flying around and blocking shots and running the floor and making passes. That’s when he’s at his best for us. We can’t have him just sitting out there and launching 3s, because that plays into the opposition’s hands. He realized that.”

Three factors in Smoove’s defense:

1. He finished the season shooting 39 percent on long 2s, which is just below the league average of 40. Smoove also was more accurate than J.J. on 3-pointers and comparable to Marvin and Jamal.

2. All season L.D. never came out and said explicitly that he wants Josh to stop taking long 2s. In fact he repeatedly said Josh had worked on his shot last summer and “has a nice stroke.” Drew only added the stipulations that Josh’s Js should be within the flow of the offense and not early in the shot clock or when Josh is matched against a defender he should take in the post.

3. For the Hawks, sometimes “flow of the offense” means lots of dribbling by the guards who, under duress, pass to a wide-open Smoove standing on the perimeter.

Some caveats to those defenses of Smoove:

1. The real problem this season wasn’t that Josh couldn’t make Js. Instead, it was that he a) took more of them at the expense of shots near the basket and b) kept taking the Js whether they were falling or not. The a) development was a double-whammy because Josh has been so effective near the basket in his career and also because it added to Atlanta’s team dynamic of the offense moving away from the basket. As for b), consider that Josh attempted 3.5 long 2s per game in January and made 29 percent; took 6 per game in February and made 50 percent; and then attempted 5.2 per game in March and made 27 percent.

Josh is still missing long 2s during the playoffs though he’s taking slightly fewer of them. In eight playoff games Josh is shooting 4 for 27 (15 percent) on long 2s but is taking about one less attempt per game than during the regular season. Meanwhile Josh has attempted 6.9 shots per game from 9 feet or closer and has made 3.9 in the playoffs as compared to 6.5 attempts and 3.8 makes during the regular season.

2. Josh had Turkoglu, a poor defender, checking him in the first round. Now it’s Boozer, who is playing on a bum toe. In both cases there hasn’t been a sustained effort by Smoove to take advantage of those matchups. The “flow of the offense” stipulation is more difficult to judge because . . .

3. Someone asked L.D. during the Orlando series if he ran plays for Smoove in the post. He smiled and said: “Yeah, but somehow he always ends up floating back out there.” So when Josh gets the ball on the perimeter late in the clock, is that because the “flow of the offense” dictated it or is it because he’s not where he’s supposed to be?

It’s easy to say L.D. should just bench Josh when he keeps taking bad shots. But, as L.D. noted from Game 2, the Hawks need the many positives that Josh can uniquely provide them.

Also, as the coach, L.D. has to worry about managing his people. Smoove is one of Drew’s best employees so it’s to his advantage to keep him happy and productive while at the same time trying to limit the damage his negative impulses can have on the overall performance of the company.

And so L.D. had the manager-employee meeting with Josh on Thursday. We’ll see if it pays immediate dividends tonight in Game 3.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

187 comments Add your comment

Astro Joe

May 6th, 2011
1:56 pm

Rod, a team that has no one to play “team ball” would fail miserably and a team without someone willing to take risks would fail miserably. This team needs players like Marvin AND players like Joe. Take either away and we’re like a perennial lottery team. I personally think this team can only afford “one Marvin” and if Al morphs into another Marvin, then we’re going down the drain. At the same time, trading Marvin for a chucker (like Tim Thomas) would likewise lead to devastating results. Someone has to be willing to sacrifice their ego for the team… by either passing or by hurting their field goal percentage and taking a risky shot. Both are valauble to a team.

At the same time, would anyone be pleased with Zaza shooting 3s? At some point, risk is replaced with stupidity.

SteveW

May 6th, 2011
2:00 pm

Rod – “We all know that we would not win a playoff game with Teague, Collins, Zaza, and Wilkens playing heavy minutes.”

I think we have just won a playoff game with Teague playing 40+ minutes.

And we did win 2 playoff games vs. Orlando with ZaZa playing 26 and 24 minutes (ok, that’s not very heavy minutes – just sayin’).

Now with the question – I guess I would rather folks be taking shots. You can’t score unless you take shots obviously.

But that question is overly simplistic for a very complex equation.

Nobody doubts Josh’s ability. They just question his propensity to take more time off on the court than most, and his shooting wisdom.

So the question for most fans is this, ” Does Josh’s very good talent outweigh his taking more plays off than the average NBA’er, and his poor decision making in regards to shooting J’s”.

And really right now for me, it’s about a wash. He helps get you behind in the 1st half, and helps you catch up in the second half in this recent Bulls game..

He’s electric. And he’s cold water. All in one.

And please nobody bring up Kobe and LeBron etc. in this discussion.

Josh is not at that level of player. He has been defensively before. But not at as the total package. So you can’t compare what LeBron and Kobe do, and say Josh can do it also.

No he can’t. He’s not good enough. By a long shot really.

But the potential is there. We’ll have to see if it remains potential, or if it is ever maximized.

That remains to be seen.

James on Pharr Rd

May 6th, 2011
2:03 pm

Qn for everybody: Why cant we post Josh at the free throw line more often?
To me it opens the CHI D and brings Noah and Boozer out of the paint: if the weak-side big tried to give help(Noah), it would open Al’s mid range shot, and allow for Josh to take Boozer off ONE or TWO dribbles to the hole, and ideally open 3 point corner shots for Marvin or Jamal. Assuming Joe is at the corner-top posing as a decoy and keeping his man honest

For all of Josh Smith’s misses, a lot of our pessimism of his shots are as a result of his technique: you almost have to cringe when he as he sets himself up to “shoot” That being said-it is all about results Josh, so if the shots are not dropping, you cannot be shooting.

SteveW

May 6th, 2011
2:05 pm

I guess with the Josh defenders – and I’m not a Josh hater in any stretch of the imagination, I’m just a Hawks fan, his electricity and his being born in College Park is what matters.

But I here folks defending him by saying, “Kobe has more techs. LeBron works the refs. Dwight has more techs.”

When Josh turns into Kobe, LeBron or Dwight, then let him talk. He needs to be quiet and play basketball until then in my opinion.

And I like Josh, and am a big Josh fan. But the truth is just the truth, regardless of how I feel about it.

SteveW

May 6th, 2011
2:07 pm

“Here” should be “hear” in my last post.

SteveW

May 6th, 2011
2:11 pm

And about the motion O of Larry Drew.

Wrong team with the wrong skill set for that. We got a team of athletes, not shooters. We don’t have Korvers, J Richardson’s and those types really anywhere on our roster. No Bargnani.

Al and Josh need to hit the weight room hard, play C and SF 75%+ of the time, work on their low post game, and go after it.

DinasaurFenton

May 6th, 2011
2:14 pm

I never thought in a million years that when the Hawks finally found themselves in a perfect position to advance to the Eastern Conference Finals, all of a sudden Josh Smith would turn into another MARVIN WILLIAMS and contribute ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the teams scoring output and ruin the teams chances for moving ahead. Right now I wish that Josh had gotten himself suspended for 5 games and we could try and advance without him. JOSH IS HURTING THE TEAM AND CITY OF ATLANTA SO BADLY AND YOU COULD SEE BY THE SMIRK ON HIS FACE THAT HE COULD CARE LESS. JOSH KEEPS WASTING PRICELESS POSSESSIONS AND WASTING THEM BY SHOOTING 3-POINT SHOTS AND HALF-COURT SHOTS IN WHICH HE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OF MAKING. YOU CAN ALSO SEE ON THE SIDELINES THAT HE NEVER DOES WHAT LARRY DREW ADVISES HIM TO DO. YOU ALWAYS SEE JOSH SULK WHEN THE REFS CALL HIM FOR FOULS AND HE ENDS OF GETTING NEEDLESS TECHNICAL FOULS THAT COSTS US BALLGAMES. JOSH SMITH IS A NERD AND SHOULD BE GIVEN HIS WALKING PAPERS.

drmaryb (*_-)

May 6th, 2011
2:14 pm

FIGHT NIGHT!

Everybody that knows me, know – I FIGHT DIRTY! I have had many rumbles on the blog. Three years ago, when I first came on the scene:
I threw the gauntlet down hard on Big-Ray. Hell, I didn’t know who he was and frankly I didn’t care. Doc came to his rescue and I jumped on him too! Those were the good ole’ days before I learned some blog etiquette.
Hell, I had never blogged before in my life!

Here’s my point: in the NFL when a formidable opponent has a known injury? The players in the locker room places a BOUNTY on that player.

Who ever knocks that fool out gets the pay-out. The key is to attack the achilles heel and try to rip it off it’s joint.

Jamal’s defense might not be the best, but he did help Rose tweak his left ankle. In the pre-season, he helped Teague sprain his ankle in a practice and sat him down for a while. Let’s see if we can set that BOUNTY for Jamal or ZaZa to step on Boozer’s toe and Rose’s ankle.

Hey why not FIGHT DIRTY? Its all good, especially if you’re getting your azz whupped and head butted. I’m just sayin’!
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So, Jamal giving the Bulls some bullets for the white board?
2 Lives Stews just reported Jamal said about the Bulls:

“IF that’s their best shot? I like our chances.”
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Go head Jamal, I ain’t mad atcha!

Let’s Go!

steven

May 6th, 2011
2:17 pm

Slimjr

May 6th, 2011
2:17 pm

I suspect Josh has probably already reached his potential.
Note, I said potential not full potential….How many humans do reach their full potential? Maybe only God knows that answer?

but since he’s uncoachable hes outta here…..

Slimjr

May 6th, 2011
2:23 pm

Allstar Al has got to fast and strong to the rim. Noah is a step slower and not a shot blocker! Take it strong man and expect contact cause he will foul you every time.Put on some goggles to protect you eyes and keep pounding THE PAINT AL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DONT BE AFRAID OF THE BIG BAD PAINT!!! THERES NO WOLF, JUST NOAH……….LOL

LarryNance

May 6th, 2011
2:24 pm

Zsa Zsa Pachulia ALSO COST US THE LAST BALLGAME by his horrible footwork in the paint. Zsa was given the basketball three times in the paint and instead of painting a portrait like Picasso, he trips over the buckets of paint and commits 3 turnovers. Go Chulia, 3 for 3, 3 turnovers and 6 points for the chicagoland squad. Great job Zsa Zsa, ruin the next game for us also.

Section 303

May 6th, 2011
2:25 pm

Michael, I’m sorry….Josh Smith is not as good as the organization makes him out to be. They have babied him since he arrived in the league. And, for what? A C- NBA player?

Tired of watching them bow down to keeping Josh happy when he really is not that great of a player anyways. They can point to positives. I’m betting I can point to almost triple the negatives.

Slimjr

May 6th, 2011
2:29 pm

WE NEED ALLSTAR AL TO SHOW UP BIG TIME!!!!!!!

WHERE OH WHERE IS ALLSTAR AL???? PLEASE STAND UP??? PLEASE RISE UP??????

ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK.!YOU’LL HAVE PLENTY OF DRIVING LANES AVAILABLE TO YA ALL NIGHT DUDE…………………………..BRING YOUR DRIVING LICENSE PLEASE…

drmaryb (*_-)

May 6th, 2011
2:29 pm

The Difference!

The difference between Josh and AK47/Odom is:

Shot blocking abilities. Love him or hate him, Josh is our ONLY rim defender, when his azz is in the paint. And he rebounds much better than those guys for this team’s sake.

For those two reasons, mainly the blocks is why:

Josh should never come off the bench for this team. His perimeter roaming is a problem Mr. Woodson had corrected, so truthfully you can only look to Mr. Drew as the cause of these current role defining problems.

Blame the root cause and not the resultant side effects.
These are what we in medicine call, drug interaction related causitive symptoms.

Michael Cunningham

May 6th, 2011
2:32 pm

@scodee23: “MC, how high of a draft pick could we get for Josh Smith?”

depends on the trading partner and if the pick is lottery-protected.

SalimStoudemire

May 6th, 2011
2:33 pm

I tell you I know that Al Horford will rebound and have a great game. Al Horford is one of the leagues BEST professionals in terms of attitude, professionalism, work ethic and enthusiasm. He is a real pro and I know he is embarrased and saddened by his horrific, terrible play. Hopefully Al will turn this around tonight and play like “Baby Wilt Chamberlain”, the way Al has always played. Al Horford having a good game is like money in the bank. Big Al will get the job done and make it look easy in the process. Go Hawks, take down Bulls in 6.

Slimjr

May 6th, 2011
2:33 pm

IN THE OFF SEASON I WOULD MAKE IT MANDATORY THAT ALL OF OUR BIGS GET IN THE WEIGHT ROOM!!!! EVERY LAST ONE OF EM!!!!

Michael Cunningham

May 6th, 2011
2:37 pm

@ Sec 303: “Michael, I’m sorry….Josh Smith is not as good as the organization makes him out to be. They have babied him since he arrived in the league. And, for what? A C- NBA player? Tired of watching them bow down to keeping Josh happy when he really is not that great of a player anyways. They can point to positives. I’m betting I can point to almost triple the negatives.”

well, as long as he’s on the roster L.D. has no choice but to try to manage him.

drmaryb (*_-)

May 6th, 2011
2:38 pm

RX

You should never mix stubbornness (Drew) with stupidity (Josh).
Prognosis: poor/fatal.

Slimjr

May 6th, 2011
2:39 pm

MARVIN LOOKS LIKE HE LIFTS TWINKIES WHEN HE SHOULD BE LIFTING WEIGHTS..I BET ANYONE THAT THIS DUDE COULD NOT BENCH HIS OWN WEIGHT 1X……

O'Brien

May 6th, 2011
2:44 pm

Najeh,

I would guess that at least 75% of the players in the league can give you 20 per night if they played 40 minutes and got enough shots. The question is whether those players can get you 20 per night and win at the same time..

Co-sign. If Marvin was the number 1 option, then opposing coaches would game plan for him, play their best defender on him at times, and even double team him. If that happens, I dont think a Marvin led team would be very successful.

Rod from College Park

May 6th, 2011
2:48 pm

Daniel and vava74,

It’s no suprise that vava74 interpreted what I was trying to say the wrong way, but for you Daniel the reason I put Jamal, Joe, and Josh together and Horford and Marvin together was not based on who were the best players on the team, but based on how the players play. But if you do really look at the season stats, Josh would be classified as one of our top 3 players. A person would not be crazy for comparing Al and Josh on this team this year or for their careers and determining that Josh was better. But anyway, Jamal, Josh and Joe, all tend to take what some would deem “bad shots”. Horford and Marvin usually play within them selves all the time and have higher effiency ratings because they take “good” shots. I guess and example would be would we rather want Horford to take that 15-20 foot jumper, all the time contested or uncontested, or do the right thing and pass the ball to the open man (Josh) because he will be left open, on the perimeter.

O'Brien

May 6th, 2011
2:48 pm

As for Josh Smith, he only took 7 three pointers last year. 7. This year, under LD, he has taken 154. I think LD has to take the majority of the blame for that, because he has not held Josh accountable. LD can talk until he is blue in the face, but until there is consistent accountability, Josh will be Josh.

The other players also take some of the blame, because they continue to pass him the ball when he is open, knowing that more than likely, he is going to shoot it (not to mention sometimes he gets passed the ball when the shot clock is running down, so he has no choice).

Its still ironic to me that at his press conference, LD said he wants Josh in the post, not shooting jumpers. But then as the season goes on, he is complimenting Josh and his improved jumper because he worked on it over the offseason. Josh (and Al) need to work on post moves.

sam'l

May 6th, 2011
2:51 pm

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sam'l

May 6th, 2011
2:54 pm

Josh should have been “corrected” months ago…….anyone with a brain has been thinking….”This guy is going to cost us a SEASON with his egomaniacal SHOT SELECTION and POOR ABILITY TO SHOOT.

drmaryb (*_-)

May 6th, 2011
2:58 pm

680 The Fan

Poll Question: Hawks win or lose tonight?
Best Answer: no doubt.

LOL

Slimjr

May 6th, 2011
3:01 pm

Josh wanna play like magic w/o a right hand dribble drive or a real jump shot..That ish he shoots is a set shot not a real jump shot……sigh………………

Slimjr

May 6th, 2011
3:03 pm

“Poll Question: Hawks win or lose tonight?
Best Answer: no doubt.”

Hugh??????????? lol

drmaryb (*_-)

May 6th, 2011
3:08 pm

Work Out!

The best Josh can do to improve his game this off srason is:

P90X: core strength stability and over all conditioning. And a sports psychologist would be most helpful. He dribbles too high too, so a bilateral dribbling skill with a lowered body stance and some fundamental passing skills would be the icing on the cake.

For now, calm down and play inside.

Melvin

May 6th, 2011
3:10 pm

Melvin

May 6th, 2011
3:10 pm

Those guys at yahoo sports must be reading the Hawks blogs b/c the two main topics or persons of discussion is Josh and Teague. Well, here is their analysis on Josh play (or lack thereof) so far this series.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Josh-Smith-vs-Carlos-Boozer-in-the-battle-of-be;_ylt=Ar1cNm026Vt9jczwhM.GnLK8vLYF?urn=nba-wp2728

The Bird and Indian

May 6th, 2011
3:16 pm

I figure it’s a white out tonight. So can anyone tell me what the price will be for the official series shirt?

Slimjr

May 6th, 2011
3:16 pm

90% of us on this blog new Teague can play except for Woody and Woody Jr…

northcyde

May 6th, 2011
3:23 pm

vava74

May 6th, 2011
1:41 pm

Daniel,

where? :-D my dealings with Rod are always an exercise in lunacy.

My argument was that Rod placed JJ in the company of Jamal and Josh to make his argument valid.

When in fact JJ is more of a passive player than an active player. Not because he doesn’t shoot by passing the ball (like Al and Marvin) but because he passes good shots in favor of badly contested ones.

It’s a form of aggression that should be in a category of its own.

On the contrary, Jamal and Josh happily and unconsciously think that every look is a good shot.

I wish that JJ thought like that since when he does not think about his shots and “simply shoots”, he ends up with performances like Game 1.

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And that’s the reason why I always say that JJ simply needs to get his shots up. We’re not winning many games with him taking just 15 shots. He’ll either have to shoot an extremely high percentage like in Game 1, or other people will have to step up big time.

Rose understands that he’ll have to put up 20+ shots in order for the Bulls to win. I don’t know if JJ buys into that or not, so that he can be the “team player”.

It’s like Barkley said after Game 1 on Inside the NBA. With that contract he has, there is a certain amount of responsibility that goes along with that. He also said that JJ needs to act like it is HIS TEAM. And honestly, JJ doesn’t act like that until the final 4 minutes of a game.

What happened in Game 2 was that the wrong people were taking the shots. You had about 13 attempts between Marvin, Josh, and Horford in that 1st quarter . . making 2 of those shots. While JJ had attempted 4 shots and made 2. If anything, JJ should’ve been looking to shoot a little more, to see if his 50% conversion rate would’ve continued or increased. Meanwhile, that would’ve had at least one of the “bigs” in the paint to gather up the miss ( hopefully ).

It’s all about balance.

These playoffs for the Hawks have been controlled by the guards, when it came to scoring. Even Hinrich was scoring the ball fairly well before he got injured. With Teague playing well now, that trend has continued. So if the guards have it going, the bigs need to play more like bigs.

Get dirty. Get grimey. Scrap and fight for some of those loose balls in the paint. And play tougher.

The Bird and Indian

May 6th, 2011
3:25 pm

I figure it’s a white out tonight. So can anyone tell me what the price will be for the official series shirt?

northcyde

May 6th, 2011
3:26 pm

And with JJ looking as if he has the 3 ball back going again, he might want to look for that shot as well. Stay in attack mode and get into the paint, but don’t be afraid to pull from deep if open. Now of course, if you miss 2 in a row, abandon that shot for a while and take a higher percentage shot. But he shouldn’t hesitate to just catch and shoot the ball sometimes, before the double and triple teams come.

Rod from College Park

May 6th, 2011
3:31 pm

Good Answers Astro Joe, and Steve W. I can’t say that I disagree.

Vava74,

Which team do you think would win best 2 out of 3:

Guys who take “bad shots” Guys who play the “right way”

Jamal Crawford Mike Conley
Jason Terry Kirk Hinrich
JR Smith vs. Marvin Williams
Josh Smith Kevin Love
Zach Randolph Al Horford

Rod from College Park

May 6th, 2011
3:36 pm

Melvin,

I’ve been telling ya’ll that they all read the blogs. Players, coaches, GM’s, owners, writers, Radio Jocks………. Don’t believe that political I don’t read the blogs or the papers crap. They probably all know us by name.

J from the A

May 6th, 2011
3:38 pm

Test.

The blog monster seems to be limiting me to a couple posts a day, and then it puts me in time out. Just testing to see if I am good to go for a few posts this evening :)

Dept. of Unintended Irony

May 6th, 2011
3:41 pm

“90% of us on this blog new Teague can play except for Woody and Woody Jr…”

Yeah, but what about “old” Teague?

[...] most Hawks enthusiasts (or any person that remotely watches the NBA) have about Josh Smith. Here’s a quote from Larry Drew to the AJC: “I thought he was trying to do too much. He admitted it, that that was the case. He didn’t feel [...]

SWAT Native

May 6th, 2011
3:49 pm

I think that Josh is embarassed at how he’s played in this series, and I expect a big outing tonight. I’m wearing my Josh Smith jersey tonight.

Slimjr

May 6th, 2011
3:56 pm

Dept, must be an English major???LOL

superiorblogman

May 6th, 2011
4:00 pm

Who cares? Josh should not be shooting any shots, he should be playing like Rodman and Ben Wallace. That’s the problem and until he gets that he will not be any good like tonite he will suck as usual.

Slimjr

May 6th, 2011
4:01 pm

the Hawks closed to within 6 pts with 4:57 on the clock in the 4th….It was a winnable game..

They’re replaying game 2 on NBA TV. I am perplexed with Allstar Al’s soft non aggressive play on both ends of the floor..It look like somebody else out there, dare I say like Marvin’s twin..That ish is scary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slimjr

May 6th, 2011
4:02 pm

I agree Blogman, Josh needs to stop shooting that garbage…….This aint a pickup game!

DinasaurFenton

May 6th, 2011
4:10 pm

SWAT NATIVE said: I think that Josh is embarassed at how he’s played in this series, and I expect a big outing tonight. I’m wearing my Josh Smith jersey tonight.

I totally disagree. Josh is NOT embarrassed at how he played. Josh played like this the last two months of the season and not once did he APOLOGIZE to the fans for stinking up the court. I read a blog earlier that describes Josh to the letter: #1:JOSH IS UNCOACHABLE and #2:JOSH HAS A POOR ATTITUDE thus lending itself to a POOR WORK ETHIC. These things will never change until Joshs head coach gets in Josh’s grill and gives Josh the ultimate ultimatim: SET A STANDARD FOR JOSH AND IF HE DOESNT MEET IT, DONT FEEL SORRY FOR JOSH AS HE IS SULKING, SIMPLY KICK HIM OFF THE TEAM AND REPLACE HIM BY GETTING SOMEBODY WHO IS COACHABLE. For all the time that Josh has been with the Hawks, JOSH COULD HAVE BEEN AS GOOD AS LABRON JAMES OR D-WADE BY NOW. Josh has better physical tools than either of them. Josh jumps higher and is more athletic than they are. Josh is not held accountable so he does whatever he wants knowing he will not be disciplied. If the coaches or the management were to say to him: Josh, for ever 3-pointer that you shoot, YOU WILL BE FINED $1000. Josh would then stop launching THREE pointers. Josh’s coaches are probably encouraging him to launch THREE pointers and they are probably telling Josh in practice, EVERYTHING OVER THE HALF-COURT LINE IS WITHIN YOUR RANGE SO JUST FIRE UP THE BASKETBALL AS SOON AS YOU STEP ACROSS THE MID-COURT LINE. Thats why you see Josh continuing to launch bricks every chance he gets. For all the bricks that josh has thrown up, he could have built an ice castle in the sky by now.

SteveW

May 6th, 2011
4:13 pm

LarryNance – “Zsa Zsa Pachulia ALSO COST US THE LAST BALLGAME”

Nah, he only played 8 minutes. We lost by 13, not by the 6pts you listed in your post.

And LD didn’t trust him to play thru his rough spot like he did Josh and Al. Weird.

Go Teague!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

SteveW

May 6th, 2011
4:16 pm

I have a feeling tonight is going to be a Foreman – Frazier fight. Kinda slow and brutal.