Atlanta Hawks: Notes, quotes and links

ChicagoChecking in from the Chi, where it is chilly and windy in frickin May . . .

  • D-Rose practiced today. David Kaplan of CSNChicago.com reported Rose had an MRI that revealed a Grade 2 ankle sprain but says Rose is “expected to start” Game 2.
  • Rose also is the MVP.
  • Teague knows the playoffs will have some bearing on his future with the Hawks.
  • Teague on if he had any pregame shookness: “At the jump ball, you are a little nervous. I get nervous before every game. After the jump ball went off, I just started playing basketball and forget about everything else.”
  • J.J. on Teague: “He knows that we need him. I think he’s going to be focused from here on out. You could see it the previous days leading up to the game. It doesn’t surprise me that he came out and played the way he did. I just look forward to him getting better.”
  • Al on Teague: “I think everyone has always seen the potential with Jeff. I think time and time again he’s been given the opportunity and he’s delivering. I’m proud of him to come out and handle things the way he did.”
  • L.D. on if he ever struggled to find a balance between letting Teague play and develop and the team’s overall goals:” I’ve never struggled with that. I’ve always said with Jeff, the main thing is to try to find the consistence with him. I’ve always believed in him.”
  • J.J. on if Teague ever got down about not playing much: “That’s understandable when you are in your first and second year. You want to play so bad. You go stretches where you may not play games. Then you go stretches where you do play, and you play good and you feel like you should be playing. I understand his frustration. He had to wait his turn and he’s done that. He’s just got to seize the moment right now.”
  • J.J. on if the Hawks are motivated by a lack of respect:  “Last night was a perfect example of this young Atlanta Hawks team [that is] very hungry and very underrated, and not appreciated. We just come out and try to have fun.”
  • L.D. on if he’s used the perceived slights to motivate his team: “To be perfectly honest, I haven’t used it all. I haven’t mentioned one thing about rallying behind that. I know some coaches would do it but I don’t see a need.”
  • SI.com’s Zach Lowe breaks down Atlanta’s screen-roll coverages against D-Rose.
  • Al on those coverages: “We were showing a lot of different looks. Rose is so fast and explosive. You can’t show [on screens] too much.”
  • A lot of the burden for guarding pick-and-rolls fell on the guards vs. Orlando. Now it’s on the bigs. “This time with a guy like Derrick Rose that is so good with the ball, we have to give more help,” Al said.
  • Teague on Smoove and Al’s help on Rose: “They were huge. Josh did a really good job of meeting him at the rim. Al did a great job of corralling him in transition and things like that. That is what it is going to take to stop him, a total team effort.”
  • Sebastian Pruiti of nbaplaybook.com breaks down the play that got Al that wide-open dunk.
  • SB Nation’s Mike Prada, who was among those to dismiss the Hawks as lucky jump-shooters in Round 1, might be reconsidering.
  • Smoove on helping limit Noah to one offensive rebound in Game 1: “I just tried to match his physicality. Anticipating the shot going up and trying to get a body on him early. As long as I face guard him and do my part and he doesn’t even touch the ball, I’ve done my part. You have to be real disciplined. What is so hard, the reason they get a lot of offensive rebounds, guys tend to ball-watch Derrick Rose because he is so aggressive and draws so much attention. That’s probably how [Noah] and Boozer probably gets a lot of tip-ins.
  • J.J. on his no excuses pledge during the All-Star break: “There is no pressure on this team, man. In every series we are going to be the underdog, regardless, so all we have to do is come out and play our game.”
  • L.D. on being up 1-0: “Looking back at the Orlando series, being in a similar situation, I thought we let our guard down a little bit. I thought we were a little complacent and a little soft. That’s something I can’t allow to happen at this time. We are in familiar waters again. We can’t come out passive with our guard down. We can’t be satisfied.”
  • J.J. on taking home-court advantage from the Bulls: “We are not satisfied. We know the series isn’t over. But yet still we know we are in the drivers’ seat. It wouldn’t hurt to get another one.”
  • L.D. on snapping the second-round losing streak: “A lot of people had written us off in the series before it even began. And we’ve been here before. Now that we have been in these situations a few times, we respond differently. We don’t listen to what’s being said. We listen and pay attention to detail a little bit more than we have in the past. And I do believe this team is a little more hungry.”
  • L.D. on what he didn’t like from Game 1: “Offensively we didn’t do as good of a job particularly when the game got physical. That’s something I’ve been preaching since the Orlando series. Playoff basketball means energy, it means intensity, it means physicality. We have to be prepared for it, we have to expect it and we have to respond.”
  • L.D. on the adjustments he anticipates from Bulls: “I am sure their aggression will be more. It is a game where their backs will be against the wall and they feel it’s a must-win for them. It’s hard to say what they will do differently [strategically]. We have to look at things more in a general [way]. With Rose we know we will see a high volume of pick-and-rolls. We could see Boozer posting more, more touches for Deng, more touches for Korver. It’s hard to say.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

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Section 303

May 3rd, 2011
6:12 pm

If you haven’t looked, go read Jeff Schultz’s rankings of the local teams. He has the Hawks #3, behind Braves and Falcons. What the F?! No debate…Hawks are the top team in this town.

Korver is the Bulls player that scares me the most (not counting Rose, of course). I thought the Hawks gave up too many open looks to Turk in the Orlando series. Turk just missed the shots. If Korver gets the same looks, he is not going to miss.

Gotta get Game 2 tomorrow night. I thought the Hawks let a huge chance pass them by in Game 2 of the Orlando series. Can’t let that happen tomorrow. Every game has to have major urgency.

Rufus1

May 3rd, 2011
6:16 pm

WHY THE BULLS SHOULD BE WORRIED…

Why they should be worried:
-Horford and Smith combined for 17pts, when the average 30pts.
-We have the best BIG Man on the floor and he had 9pts(Horford)
-Josh Smith has found his shotblocking Mojo
-Boozer: If that is what they call “getting it going” they are in trouble.
- Teague, not Kirk is the best perimeter defender we have.

It wasn’t a good thing for the Bulls that Kirk got hurt, because Teague wouldn’t have played LD likes shotmakers…..Kirk’s a better shooter but Teague is a lock down defender….No one can stop Rose, but Teague will make him work much harder than Kirk….Especially on a BAD ANKLE.

Blast

May 3rd, 2011
6:26 pm

Beautiful time to be a Hawks fan. Every Hawk that played last night scored. Teague scored the very first points of the game with a floater. The person I really loved to see eat dirt was Charles Barkely. Charles, just liked every other media outlet gave Hawks no chance versus Orlando. Hawks went in, took home court and nailed Magic 4-2. Same scenario playing out with Bulls.

Hawks can take their game up another level if thay can win game 2. They should not be satisfied to steal one game. They can further shock the world, and elevate their playoff run by winning game two. If Hawks can do that, they I will officially declare them as having arrived, and enroute to a first ever Eastern conference berth.

Sir Charles, eat dirt. Kenny Smith, chew on grass. Hollinger, chop crow. Y’all suck!

Go, Hawks, Go!

Blast

May 3rd, 2011
6:29 pm

Hawks and Memphis, the two most surprising and spoilers in league history.

How about them Grizzles, huh? Wiped out the top seeded team in the west, and now one up versus Durant and co.

Go, underdog spoilers!

myrak43

May 3rd, 2011
6:58 pm

Do you believe JJ still has the worst contract in the NBA?

i_am_soulstar

May 3rd, 2011
7:00 pm

A few points:

1) Time and time again players have come out and had the game of their lives with so-called injuries. That being said, I’m not depending on D Rose’s janky ankle to give the Hawks an advantage. But it wouldn’t hurt if it took away some of his explosiveness.

2) The Hawks aren’t gonna hit all the shots that they made in Game 1. I hope they make adjustments on their offensive scheme to get more points in the paint, as the Hawks collectively have the best bigs on the floor.

3) Josh taking an open jump shot isn’t a horrible thing, but he’s much more efficient when he drives in for the foul. Somebody get in his ear.

4) The Hawks must continue to corral D Rose. Teague deserves all the praise hes received, but it truly takes the whole team to guard that guy, gimpy ankle or not.

5) The refs made some horrible calls and the Hawks still pulled this one out. Don’t mean to be that dude (that dude=conspiracy theorist), but the refs were calling everything for the Bulls. Somebody needs to call them out. Of course, they won’t, because all the rules are set up so that no one questions the refs without penalty. Not exactly a system of checks and balances.

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2011
7:07 pm

“I’ve always believed in him.”

Larry your full excrement…………………………

Wabe

May 3rd, 2011
7:08 pm

Section 303

May 3rd, 2011
6:12 pm

“If you haven’t looked, go read Jeff Schultz’s rankings of the local teams. He has the Hawks #3, behind Braves and Falcons. What the F?! No debate…Hawks are the top team in this town.”

Don’t know about that. Even with the Hawks finally breaking through and winning a 2nd round playoff game, I’d still put the Falcons at one. I know people will jump out and say, “they don’t win in the playoffs…”

But, if you compare the two organizations, and you asked folks who had a better shot to win a title in the coming years, I’d personally lean towards the Falcons. They’re 3 seasons removed from being at rock bottom, and they’re in position to make some playoff runs? That’s incredible. They’re relatively young, and they’ve been built pretty solid. Solid core of guys.

Compare that to the Hawks. I’m happy that the Hawks are playing well right now. But, do I see them as a legitimate championship contender? No.

I guess you guys can debate it. To me, it’s no competition.

1 – Falcons
2 – Hawks
3 – I’m not big on baseball, and I know the braves are supposed to have a good team and all, but baseball is a waste of time. So the Braves come in at 3.

Wabe

May 3rd, 2011
7:10 pm

Just compare the two organizations.

The Hawks and their ownership, GM, coach. Their philosophy? Do they strike you as an organization hungry to win titles? If you say yes, you’re lieing.

The Falcons have come out and openly stated their goals. But, it’s not just lip service on their behalf. They actually make the moves, spend the money, hire the people, and ultimately function in a manner that leads people to believe they’re trying to win titles, not just settle on being ‘good enough’.

Ole Hawks Fan

May 3rd, 2011
7:11 pm

LD saying how he had confidence in Jeff Teague NOW…………………………If YOU believe that……I’ve got some swamp land in lower SC for SALE REal Cheap. Be a MAN…………………..LD and admit this organization failed in how Teague and other YOUNG Players in the Hawks organization was handle inproperly By Woody and now YOU. Give Taegue A Chance!

p2theC

May 3rd, 2011
7:14 pm

The Hawks can definately sympathize with Rodney Dangerfield’s “I get no respect”. Now i fear that if they win this series with the Bulls then it’s going to be all about, “They only won because Rose was hurt”. Screw these folks in the national media and elsewhere that are always talkin bad about folks. I say “They get no respect from me!”.

O'Brien

May 3rd, 2011
7:18 pm

I agree with northcyde. Al and Josh need to work on post moves this offseason.

When LD was hired at the end of the season last year, he said he wants Josh to establish himself in the post. And what did Josh work on over the summer? His jumpers. Not his post moves. His jumpers. What does that tell you about Josh’ defiance?

Instead of working on his strengths to become better at it, Josh chooses to try and prove people wrong. 7 years later, when will he get it?

And Al needs to realize that even if he is a PF, he still needs a post game.

O'Brien

May 3rd, 2011
7:21 pm

I wish Josh would pattern his game after Zach Randolph.

From blogabulls.com;

Another thing we did expect from them, though pretty much received, was terrible shot selection. Marvin Williams, Jamal Crawford, and Josh Smith were especially notable culprits, and Smith’s propensity for jumpshots are what got the the Bulls the lead in the 3rd quarter as they were able to run off of the rebounds.

But again, the Bulls weren’t able to pull comfortably away (finishing that quarter even), and while a team like the Pacers can be more easily clamped down upon with their lack of shot-creators, the Hawks are used to playing every possession like their structured offense has been taken away..

doc

May 3rd, 2011
7:31 pm

grade two sprain on rose. interesting take along with the definition of that type of sprain.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/03/report-mri-shows-grade-2-sprain-on-derrick-rose%E2%80%99s-ankle/related/

rose hasnt gotten to the line much since he sprained it the first time and his mobility is not going to come close to the guy who carved us up like chopped liver and will be down from what we saw yesterday. willis reid like effort will be required of him to make it look like it doesnt hurt or isnt affecting his game.

i imagine it would be really good to take the ball right at him as on offense he can control what he does, on defense he is at the mercy of whoever he has to guard. that is another reason to have jt0 in the game strategically or force crawford to buckle him a couple of times.

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2011
7:33 pm

Structured offense has been taking away???…No the Hawks are blessed with 2 guards who can go iso on your azz….Can create their own shot off their dribble and in this playoff run that is a huge advantage!!!!

Earl the Pearl and Walt Frazier won like that with the Knicks some years ago….

drmaryb (*_-)

May 3rd, 2011
7:33 pm

Focus – Pocus!

The underlying difference I see between the Hawks this year versus recent past is a calm and serious focus. All, the silliness
seems to have – POOF! Disappeared when Bibby packed his bags and left.

That silly and aloof hold he had over this team has vanished into thin air.
And I, for one, am glad. Fellas, have you noticed that our beloved Hawks are growing up right before our eyes.

And people, please lay off Josh. He is playing awesome and within the offense. He will take and make some jump shots, they are not all bad shots. He should and will, I believe drive the ball more often when there is more time on the clock.

But, somebody is passing up those shots for him to take. His team mates trust him. I promise you, Josh is not receiving his own passes. Josh has always been a willing passer.

Sometimes, I think we tend to micro-analyze every little detailed movement and that my friends, will drive you nuts. Don’t do that to yourself, you deserve better. LOL!

Sautee

May 3rd, 2011
7:36 pm

“Do you believe JJ still has the worst contract in the NBA?”

While I’ve complained (and will, still) about Joe’s contract, I’ve never thought it was the worst in the league, but I do think that it has hamstrung any MAJOR improvement for the Hawks in the near future.

The only thing that has changed for me is that he’s coming a helluva lot closer to earning his pay this postseason than the last two, which were mostly abysmal.

Hoops

May 3rd, 2011
7:41 pm

Last night was a great win by the Hawks! The Bulls will fight back. The Hawks have a very talented team when they have quick ball movement, use ball fakes, use skip passes when available, and penetrate with the dribble. They will continue to contain the Bulls off the dribble. If Rose does not hit consistently from outside, the Bulls are in trouble. The match ups favor the Hawks! If the Bulls win tomorrow night, then I say Hawks in 6. If the Hawks win game two, look for the sweep! GO HAWKS!!!

lewis

May 3rd, 2011
7:42 pm

Josh can shoot 10-12 footers just not anything more than 12 feet, he just doesn’t have that range

lewis

May 3rd, 2011
7:50 pm

JJ’s post season performance thus far has been acceptable, not sure if he keeps it up though

James on Pharr Rd

May 3rd, 2011
8:14 pm

Taking advantage of special moments:

Great teams take advantage of opportunities, and we certainly are in the lap of something special-possibly the Conference Finals or more.most of our main guys are in line to define their careers or making the next step as a team at the least: For Joe, he has the chance to slip into that elite category: Josh’s success is sure to mark progress from his rookie journey, and Jamal has a lot of money to make if he does well too in the playoffs. I am happy for Jeff: he is setting himself to be a starter if he can hold this thing together through a couple of games. But, ultimately, as a team we are in a great spot, and the Onassis is on LD to continue motivating these guys and taking advantage of the talent we have on the court. I remember when Detroit had their run a few years ago-they had always looked like “that team” that just couldn’t get over the hump, and when they finally did all the question marks were forgotten. The Hawks can become “That Team.”
The only cost we are paying-is The ASG gets to take credit for this…
Go Hawks

SteveW

May 3rd, 2011
8:14 pm

Rod – Don’t mean to drive this in the ground, but here’s what you said:

“If you think Al is having a stellar playoffs, thats your opinion, I dont based on the stats, and what I have seen. He also has had a hard time staying on the floor because of foul trouble. I will continue to post my opinions, and you can continue to post yours.”

How is a guy averaging 39.6 minutes per game in the playoffs having a hard time staying on the floor?

How is a guy averaging a double double not having a good playoffs?

How is a guy leading his team in assists not having a good playoffs?

How is a guy who almost never turns the ball over not having a good playoffs?

All Stars are more than Points and FG%. Alot more to basketball than that.

I mean Al has the 4th best rebounds per game of anybody in the playoffs – and we need that don’t we?

He’s also 2nd in Assists in the playoffs among PF’s/C’s.

Al is playing at an All Star level, especially for a C in the playoffs.

Of course I wish he would score more, and shoot a higher %, and more FT’s.

But he’s been very good.

But I think maybe our definitions of All Stars are a little different. I’m comparing him to C’s. Your I think comparing him to SF’s. Which is fair, because he’s played that the most this post season.

And your factoring in scoring and shooting % very high. I’m trying to factor in the total factor – Boards, Assists, Defense, Turnovers etc.

Calling 'em out

May 3rd, 2011
8:18 pm

Slimjr

April 27th, 2011
12:49 am
6 games above .500 means not only mental but just not as talented compare to other teams in the NBA that gained a playoff berth……..

HAWKS BLOG, APRIL 26, MAGIC 101 HAWKS 76

fair weather fan!!! sucka

Calling 'em out

May 3rd, 2011
8:21 pm

mykhalc

April 27th, 2011
1:02 am
the entire front court needs immediate and severe coachin’ on ball handlin’ in the post…PERIOD!!! it’s a weakness that really haunts this team

Hawks Blog, April 26, Magic 101 Hawks 76

FAIR WEATHER FAN

doc

May 3rd, 2011
8:26 pm

al needs to gain 15 pounds of muscle and josh ten to withstand the pounding and rigors as well as post game. they ought to spend the summer pounding each other. marvin he has to figure out if he wants to be an impact player and do some off season work on his game rather than school. he haas the money and time later for that. he also needs to grow a bit in mind and body.

Calling 'em out

May 3rd, 2011
8:26 pm

Slimjr

April 27th, 2011
1:30 pm
Hawks you are banned from attending any strip clubs or any clubs for the rest of the playoffs. go act a fool on your vacation….it will be here soon enough! BUSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Calling 'em out

May 3rd, 2011
8:27 pm

superiorblogman

April 27th, 2011
2:25 pm
Hawks will lose this series. As I said a couple days ago all the Magic needed to do was blow the Hawks out once and the Hawks minds will cave in. I am happy they are going to lose this series though, because this team needs a major overhaul. Hinrich is not the PG of the future and will not get you to the ECF in the present so once again you spent too much on him in that trade. Lastly, Josh Smith is more Lamar Odom than anything, Odom is actually better but the great Phil Jackson long realized that Odom was more valuable as a do it all guy off the bench. Josh will be at his best when he is in that role.

Calling 'em out

May 3rd, 2011
8:30 pm

Slimjr

April 27th, 2011
3:33 pm
The loss last night was not just a loss.It was a CATASTROPHIC LOSS!!!!!!!!!!

The players bailed in the 1st 8 mins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We Fans should be totally beside ourselves with the sh_t they dumped on the floor down there in Orlando..TNT was wise not to put this garbage on their station!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My remote will be ready once again to tune out another pickup game…..

Calling 'em out

May 3rd, 2011
8:32 pm

you are either with the hawks or AGAINST them. make up your effin’ mind. you bash the team one game and ride their jocks when they do well. die hard fans are there thru thick and thin.

OH, I AIN’T DONE BLASTIN’ YOU FAKE FAN’S EITHER!!!

bigdave

May 3rd, 2011
8:40 pm

anyone else hear Tim Leglar say that Josh Smith is the best big on the floor this series? yesterday’s 6pm sports center..

tremaine

May 3rd, 2011
8:57 pm

Calling ‘em out- is a joke and has battered wife syndrome. These guys wouldn’t be on this blog if they were not hawks fans. I applaud anybody who will criticize their team when they are not playing to the best of their abilities. If all the fans stroked the hawks ego and told them it is ok to get blownout and play hard when they want to, they would be at home right now.

tremaine

May 3rd, 2011
9:00 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot

“GIVE TEAGUE A CHANCE!”

When Joe Johnson plays like he did last night “CUT THE CHECK!”

tremaine

May 3rd, 2011
9:07 pm

Calling ‘em out- bought a Kobe jersey when ASG sold them in the team store. “Anything to help the team out!” SMDH!

ILL-Logical

May 3rd, 2011
9:43 pm

One of Jeff Teague’s challenges is that in the Association the players with the higher salary generally get the majority of the playing time. Salary determines status and with an organization like the Hawk’s, players like Bibby and Marvin get to play often despite their performance. Add the salary of Captin Kirk, and a pattern emerges.

brigadierjerry

May 3rd, 2011
9:54 pm

Having watched the Heat Celtics game the Celtics look very old and the Heat will be a tough team the next 3-5 years. I think Hawks if they advance match up better with Boston then the Heat although Hawks match up decent against the Heat

One pther thing. I expect Joe Johnson to get constantly doubleteamed tomorrow and it will be up to the other Hwks to space the floor and have the big man flash to the top of the foul line and able see the floor and make plays

brigadierjerry

May 3rd, 2011
10:11 pm

One of the things that hurts Rose as a player is he isnt a pas first point guard. If he was he would be even more difficult to defend. One he take it to the rim he isnt going to pass it unless absolutely necessary so if you can crowd the paint and angles chances are you will get a turnover. I like Rose as a player and person but I would take a Chris Paul Jason Kidd pass first point guard any day.

drmary b with the Rose strain what type of issues will he have with that type of Grade 2 strain?

Kaye

May 3rd, 2011
10:17 pm

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTY074F6Oio —>SEND TO HAWKS FANS EVERYWHERE!

Blast

May 3rd, 2011
10:18 pm

Calling ‘em out!

Please keep calling them out. I was going to do the same, then just realized they weren’t worth the trouble.

Section 303

May 3rd, 2011
10:28 pm

Calling ‘em out!

Everyone on here is a Hawks fan. Are some manic (like me)? Yes. But, they’re fans. I don’t recall reading any predictions from you. You were calling this playoff run all thoughout the season? Willing to bet you weren’t.

The posters you’re “calling out” have been on here for years. They care. Really, I’m turning this around on you. I’m “callin’ you out”! You’re a troll. So, exit off the site, shut off your computer, and go find some traffic to jump into.

Heat Fan

May 3rd, 2011
10:42 pm

Let’s go Hawks, I’m pulling for you so I have two games to go to when my Heat come up.

Grandad

May 3rd, 2011
10:44 pm

Mary Ellen (*_-)

Darlin,
I regret that I must disagree concerning Josh.

* But 1st I shall give you kudos for your point about Bibby.

Now back to Josh:
“He is playing awesome”
* [I can't agree]
“and within the offense”
* [that is true / I must agree]

My problem is he has been in the league (what 6, 7) years ?
Folks keep sayin’ words for Josh like:
next year, if, why, if he would only ______, potential, grow up ?
He will be 26 next year – In his prime – small window.

If we don’t trade Josh this summer, we will regret it.

I’m euphoric about the Hawks current run.
I should wait ’til after the play-offs to air my concerns.
But last nite was such a manifestation of his intractable disposition.

Now, I’m thinking when he’s -on- the floor,
who’s -off- the floor who could be augmenting the team much better.
[Zaza come to mind] (with Teague showing his mettle = one more)
.
I’m a Josh fan !

JeJe

May 3rd, 2011
10:55 pm

I hate Joe’s comments about how there’s no pressure on us. There’s a ton of pressure on us. If we lose the series, our season is over.

We gotta come out fighting tomorrow. If we get down 15-6 or 7-0 early, it’ll be a long game.

We still haven’t had a situation yet in the Playoffs where we’ve been done and come back and won a game. Hopefully we get off to a strong start tomorrow

STILL WAITING ON JOSH SMITH TO SHOW UP OFFENSIVELY IN THESE PLAYOFFS

drmaryb (*_-)

May 3rd, 2011
10:58 pm

Grade 2 Sprain!

“drmary b with the Rose strain what type of issues will he have with that type of Grade 2 strain?”
-brigadierjerry-
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Moderate sprain to the ankle is a weight bearing pivotal joint since Rose is an elite athlete he will feel compelled to play on it.

The problem is unbearable pain with pressure from standing on it much less running and jumping in a professional sports game. But, hey the MVP will drag that ankle out there and play on it. The severe pain is caused by the swelling/inflammation inside the joint capsule.

His therapist will order him to ice it 24/7 and apply ultra sound treatments to heat the intra-capsular joint cartilage and reduce the inflammation along with pharmaceuticals.

He will undergo electric muscle stimulation treatments to increase blood flow and oxygen to the muscles around the joint to modulate the pain levels again, along with NSAID’s (non-steroidal analgesic drugs). i.e. Pain Killers.

He will receive the above treatments daily from 8AM – 5PM in lieu of team practices, regardless if someone says otherwise.
Prior to the game, Rose will more than likely receive a steroidal cortisone injection. So, he won’t feel a thing. But, mentally he will feel the foot as unstable, because it is, it will feel wobbly. Buy, hey …
Rose will get a stellar tape job and all will be fine – or, will it?
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Common sense says, sit out game 2 and probably the entire series and next. But, hey! This is the play offs and he will hear none of that nonsense. Oh Jerry! And, BTW Teague should catch him back peddling on defense and run him into the paint where he loves to be and break both his ankles, (not literally) but you get my point.

If Teague had a killer cross-over? Now would be the time to put that on display on the big stage for thw whole world to see!
____________________

Advantage: Teague.

JeJe

May 3rd, 2011
11:00 pm

We gotta go all out tomorrow.

NO BS SLOW STARTS

Treat tomorrow as game 7 of the NBA Finals.

Get up 2-0 and win AT LEAST 1 at home.

WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED VS. ORLANDO WHEN WE LET OUR GUARD DOWN OR THE TEAM THAT WAS DOWN PLAYED WITH DESPERATION.

We MUST have that mentality tomorrow

NO SLOW STARTS

WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS TEAM

JeJe

May 3rd, 2011
11:02 pm

I want a physical game tomorrow. I want ZaZa getting into it with Noah. I want Damien playing air-tight D on Deng

I want Z fouling Rose hard and sending his @$$ to the ground

drmaryb (*_-)

May 3rd, 2011
11:09 pm

JeJe

Look at pressure this way? It’s necessary to play with urgency and intensity, but you never want to play under pressure or tight.

That does not help but hinders peak performance. You want to have some fun and just play loose like on the playgrounds. These guys have been playing basketball since they were probably 6 years old or younger if you count Nerf Ball in the bedroom on a 2′ rim.

Think about it this way? When Captain Sully put that plane down on
The Hudson River in Manhattan, NY?

He said calmly, “Passengers we have to land this plane on the Hudson.”
Captain Sully, came back at the piint of landing and stealthly said,

“Brace for Impact.” The rest was American History:
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The Miracle on The Hudson
Courage under Fire
Never Let Them See You Sweat

JeJe

May 3rd, 2011
11:09 pm

It’s sad that Teague won’t even play next year if Hinrich is back

*Yawn*

MannyT

May 3rd, 2011
11:16 pm

For those that choose to complain about Joe’s deal, keep this in mind. While it might be big on the back end, there are 15 players that had bigger salaries this season. These include big time stars Michael Redd, Yao Ming, & Gilbert Arenas.

Worry about his $ in 2015, not now. He made more his 1st season here than the 1st 3 seasons of this deal. Enjoy the game…unless your hobbies include accounting.

This is rare Hawks air. Enjoy being ahead in a 2nd round series…fun time

I love the smell of victory off Lake Michigan ;-)

Go Hawks

drmaryb (*_-)

May 3rd, 2011
11:16 pm

Grand – Daddy!

I see your fine points. And you are so fine – wink!

Here’s my point:

Can Josh play better? Absolutely.
Has he cost his team any games? No.
The two games they lost? Josh showed up.
Would the team win those 5 games without Josh’s play? No.
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This whole team at every position has played excellent at times, and at times all at once. The defense has been amazing, sans game 5.
Overall, these have been total team wins. They collectively have won ugly in most all the wins. There is enough blame to spread evenly. We can’t just point to one person in any of the losses, except maybe Joe in game 5 with 5 points.

I’m just sayin’

JeJe

May 3rd, 2011
11:18 pm

Have a feeling Rose will go for 40 tomorrow and have like 12 assists

Hope I’m wrong

Cannot let the fact he won MVP psyche us out

Sleepy

May 3rd, 2011
11:19 pm

we know for a fact with Rose receiving the MVP trophy and not getting any fts in the last game that he will come out ultra aggressive . I would throw a wrench into that by going zone the first 4-5 possessions. Every report Ive read they go on and on about how they settled for too many jumpshots and how they were going to attack the basket more and be more physical and intense .

Toss that zone out there to start and totally freak them out and nullfy that crowd and then when they take out Bogans or Korver just go back to man to man .

Jamal is averaging 20 ppg in the playoffs so far and after every game someone says he wont continue to make those lucky shots lol

JeJe

May 3rd, 2011
11:20 pm

That game 5 [blowout] loss to Orlando was huge.

Our players need to KEEP REMINDING THEMSELVES that games like that will happen if we get complacent

We cannot let immature people like Smoove tell us that we just need to steal 1 in Chicago.

We still have not had a game yet this postseason where Smoove has led the team.

drmaryb (*_-)

May 3rd, 2011
11:21 pm

“It’s hard to play good – Its easy to play hard”
- Scottie Brooks, OKC Head Coach -

Sleepy

May 3rd, 2011
11:25 pm

JeJe this game is like a quiz to see how much the Hawks have learned from the last series.

drmaryb (*_-)

May 3rd, 2011
11:31 pm

Sleepy

The winner never makes a major adjustment to start a game.
That is counter-intuitive on every logistical level in LIFE!

The onus is on The Bulls to make any adjustment and if our plan is thwarted in any way, then we make an in game situation counter move.
You never fake yourself out of positions of proven strength, unless otherwise warranted.

You do what YOU do, until someone stops you. That’s what winners do!

This was my basic response in the last series, Drew agreed and Hawks win in 5. But, hey! I’m not trying to re-invent the wheel nor water.

IMO

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2011
11:36 pm

I hope Hinrich is back to deal with Wade in the ECF..We match up better with Miami then Boston anyway…We beat em with that Mr. party animal himself the Bibster… Imagine what will happen if Teague is starting???Good stuff!! Go Hawks…

Go take a dump @calling em’ out………….You sound constipated like Stan Van Gundy!….Yawn…

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2011
11:45 pm

“It’s hard to play good – Its easy to play hard”
- Scottie Brooks, OKC Head Coach -

Great quote drmaryb!

I’ve been tough on Josh and Allstar Al a bit lately, but you’ve just brought to mind that Josh and Al are playing very hard in these playoffs, they are giving every thing they have!!!

As a fan you really cant ask for more? I applaud both of them and stand while doing it. Josh had a monster 4th Quarter protecting the Rim at only 6′9″.. If this guy was a 7 footer OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

drmaryb (*_-)

May 3rd, 2011
11:46 pm

SlimJr! Bump that Fool! Do You Baby.

I Love You! What else really matters? Don’t worry ’bout the
multi-name bloggers. You know who they are.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 3rd, 2011
11:49 pm

“Have a feeling Rose will go for 40 tomorrow and have like 12 assists”

Same here. He’s going to come out firing. The Hawks have done a good job weathering the storm in this series when the opposing team has made runs, but they better be ready to start this game.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 3rd, 2011
11:49 pm

^^in these playoffs I mean.

Sleepy

May 3rd, 2011
11:54 pm

drmaryb (*_-) – this isnt a change of total game strategy this is a way to totally screw with the adjustments they think they are making right from the start especially offensively for a team who doesnt score a ton of points.

This also takes the crowd out of the game AND the refs.

We know the refs are coming and every winning team is always looking at different ways to attack there opponents . We know that these guys are not the shooters that the Magic were and you know that Rose and the refs are gonna be coming directly at Teague.

if we can somehow slow that down and cause this team to chuck a few threes early and not put them to the line which is what they will be looking for then over the course of the game it works in our favor .

Again this is not all game zone this is zone that says this opponent outside of Korver has no confidence in its outside shooting and will do everything possible tomorrow to get free throw attempts .

The amount of frustration that will come from us zoning them will take them right out of there game imo .

How much zone offense do you think theyve practiced the last two weeks .?

Dont you think that if they have to sub Bogans for Korver at SG that that plays right into our hands ?

Najeh Davenpoop

May 3rd, 2011
11:55 pm

“Do you believe JJ still has the worst contract in the NBA?”

He never had the “worst contract in the NBA”, word to Gilbert Arenas and Rashard Lewis. The problem with his contract is that more than any other contract on the team, it makes it pretty much impossible for the Hawks to improve this roster. Joe is a good player but the contract makes him damn near untradeable for anything close to equal value and takes up a third of the Hawks’ cap room for the next half decade. And based on this regular season’s results, for the Hawks to lock themselves into a 44 win team for the foreseeable future seemed like a bad move during the regular season.

If, in fact, this team’s ceiling is higher than previously demonstrated, his contract becomes significantly less burdensome. If the Hawks can actually build an elite team around this core — and it would be hard to argue against their elite status if they can make it to the conference finals or beyond — then it makes no difference how much they get paid since they are going to be here anyway. The problem only becomes significant if this core cannot become elite, in which case the subsequent rebuilding effort would be severely hampered by the inability to move Joe.

Slimjr

May 3rd, 2011
11:59 pm

WOW OKC up 20!!! Sending a message???

Slimjr

May 4th, 2011
12:03 am

If the Hawks reach the ECF or Finals, Gearon has 300million reasons why he should spend the money to help this team win it all next year….

Sleepy

May 4th, 2011
12:04 am

SlimJr next game in Memphis Gasol and Randolph are gonna foul out the entire OKC team .

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
12:08 am

* NSAIDS (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs).
Earlier I said * analgesic (which means pain meds) however, indirectly N
the cause of pain is typically due to inflammation.

* also Ice 24/7 should be interpreted as intermittently during the 24 hours and not continuous icing, (that is an implied understanding amongst those who work in the medical community.)

Icing should be applied in 20/20 mins on/off intervals. You never want to induce hypo-thermic conditions to the body.
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Slimjr

May 4th, 2011
12:09 am

I hear ya Sleepy! He He..Like that Conely dude.Hes got nice smooth left handed j..Raining 3’s tonight…

Grandad

May 4th, 2011
12:13 am

Mary Ellen

You are so Right !

But when you get to my age you start looking at long term Health.

From now ’til June – Dr.Mary writes the prescriptions.

Go Hawks !

Grandad

May 4th, 2011
12:23 am

Mary Ellen

One of my former players / students called me today.
He’s got two grand kids.
He was tellin me about all my former players that had turned 50.

I knew I was gettin’ on,
but, sometimes you don’t realize those kids grow up too.
I said, well ” I’ll be dawggone ”
I started thinkin’ about some of those 50 year old kids,
(they are still young boys in my mind’s eye)
it kinda made me realize…..dang, I’m an ol’ cuss.

Ha haaaa, don’t you just love it, ain’t life grand !

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
12:35 am

In the Zone!

“How much zone offense do you think theyve practiced the last two weeks .?”
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Sleepy, I understood your comments clearly and I saw your fine points up there. I just disagree. To start the game in a zone is not necessary.

The only the Hawks need to do is see what adjustments the Bulls have made and counter that in the game. A wise man will impose his will upon the opponent and correct the error of his ways based on what the film showed that we can do better.

You would never want to solve the Bulls puzzle without provocation.
A preemptive strike should only be launched from an offensive stand point and not in a defensive mode.

Defense is a reaction a response to being offended. Offense is an aggression an attack. So, since we whupped the Bulls azz convincingly?

There is nothing that requires a change on defense, except to play our defensive strategy that has already worked and is already in place – BETTER! If we began game 1 in a zone and started on a 9 – 0 run?

Then fine, start game 2 the same way. If you like how we started game 1, (and you should have), then why on God’s Green Earth would you change that? Where is the Logic?
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“How much zone offense do you think theyve practiced the last two weeks .?”

Simple Answer: IDK and that is not my problem nor concern. Imma’ do Me!

superiorblogman

May 4th, 2011
12:40 am

Anybody that changes there screename is a phaggot (callingemout).

Hey Slimjr, you boy might be opting out of his contract

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17978868?source=rss&utm_source=feed…

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
12:41 am

Play Ball!

Play YOUR game until somebody stops you.

Sleepy

May 4th, 2011
1:16 am

drmaryb (*_-) – What worked for the Hawks defensively was we constantly changed our looks and adjusted .

To know that Rose didnt get to the foul line for the first time in 60 games and then say wait until he gets going before we make any adjustments is simply not a sound defensive strategy for a team trying to win a second road game.

Everything that occurred last game sets them up for this we took a team with limited shooting and held them to the perimeter and didnt foul a lot and now there entire focus has turned tot getting to the foul line.

Our game has been showing them something different and this zone after the jump ball is just a continuance of that .

The fact that you say dont change anything is a lack of respect for the opponent you are facing .

The Bulls made one ONE shot outside of 5 feet in the first quarter and missed 5 layups but because we made a few shots offensively we shouldnt adjust for the fact that Rose couldnt make a layup to start and that Deng was killing Marvin with nothing but drives to the basket ?

Im gonna chart the first 5 minutes of the game tomorrow defensively and we will compare it to game one and see what carries over .

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
1:36 am

Sleepy

“The fact that you say dont change anything is a lack of respect for the opponent you are facing .”
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I never said this. That is your failed comprehension of what I did say.
We are having two totally different conversations. Do you really not understand the words that are coming out of my mouth? LOL!

Again, Coach has made adjustments in every single game, with every time out and every player rotation. Switches, help defense, zones and man to man defenses are all going to be called.

Here is my point: let the Bulls show you their adjustment to losing FIRST! Then counter that. You don’t assume what they will do – See what they do and react appropriately.

IF YOUR game puts them in a 6′ grave to start the game? Why would you want to change that? In chess you wait until the opponent makes his move FIRST, otherwise you are jumping the gun and not following the sequence of the game that is being played.

News Flash Sleepy! We WON! The next move is the Bulls. Follow the logic, not the argument. LOGIC. LOGIC. LOGIC. Why guess what they are gonna do, when all you have to do is wait and see, they will show their hand to you, you don’t have to guess – just open your eyes and see what is. Make your adjustment and play YOUR game.

Your missing the ENTIRE point of this conversation. Comprehension is a skill, not a debate. I’m all for whatever works to win. I just don’t agree with your strategy to accomplish another win. We Won!

If do what we did, chances are we will win again and again, we are the better team talent wise at 4 positions.

Grandad

May 4th, 2011
1:40 am

S-blogman;

would he be a RFA or an UFA ?

superiorblogman

May 4th, 2011
1:49 am

Grandad: UFA if he opts out, but why would he do that? He will be making 11.6 million next year. I don’t see him getting much more. I heard he specifically asked for a contract like Al which I can see him getting from someone like the Pacers or Nets but most teams that will pay him 12 million over 5 years are teams in which he will not see playoffs within the next couple of years. He could really help the Pacers or Nets though. We have no chance to get him unless we could give away Hinrich or Marvin.

Grandad

May 4th, 2011
2:08 am

Would you sign & trade Josh for Nene ?

If you don’t mind – I am crrently reading a book;
” love Wins ”
by — Rob Bell –
Very controversial for those of us who believe in fairy tales & myths.

It is not a book for everyone,
older, conservative, (sounds like me) folk don’t like it.
Open minded renaissance men like myself,
need to be challenged daily so I don’t get old-timers disease.
(like my brother)
You are an intelligent sort even if you are an ornery rascal sometimes.
Don’t get all pissed off just ’cause I ran it by you.
I’ll recommend to more than just you.

Back to basketball, I wouldn’t trade Al, but I would Josh.
Best case Marvin.
I don’t know all the ins and outs of S & Ts.

Grandad

May 4th, 2011
2:10 am

Should have read:

I’ll recommend *[-it-] to more than just you.

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
2:20 am

Strategy at The NBA Level!

“ Drew on adjustments for Game 2: “We are going to start the game as we did the last game. I am not going to panic with adjustments until we start getting hurt with things. Sometimes I think the tendency is to start making adjustments when there is no need to. I am not going to do anything out of the ordinary. If you have to make adjustments, do it but not if you don’t have to.”
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I said this verbatim prior to Coach Drew’s comments for Game 2 last series. I said this probably in response to Sleepy immediately after Game 1 win. Sleepy, are you repeating yourself from series to series even after you have been defeated with pure common sense and logic?

Why are you having the same conversational issues in series 2?
Unless, you are not that guy from series 1. It’s not important to me that you agree with me, but your line of reasoning does not past the test of ages and basketball history in its most basic form nor that in LIFE, outside of sports. These are just principles of basic thinking.
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“If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got – IF you don’t like what you got? Change It.”
- drmaryb -
_____________________

Now, if you don’t like what Hawks did in 1st Qrtr, game 1?
(was that 38 – 19?). Then, I don’t know what else to tell you?
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I’m done repeating the same things. Good Nite – Sleepy.

Grandad

May 4th, 2011
2:22 am

2:08 pm – [post was for] – * Superiorblogman *

Rev in Tampa

May 4th, 2011
2:33 am

Grandad,

Rob Bell gives me indigestion.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/rob.bells.love.wins.only.presents.half.the.truth.theologian/27751.htm

But I only like reading theologians who have been dead for over 300 years – John Calvin, John Owen, Thomas Brooks, John Flavel, & Thomas Watson…

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
2:34 am

I Have Seen it All Before!

One more thing to help out my friend sleepy “rip van winkle”:
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Magic at Atlanta Hawks Game 6
Larry Drew’s move in ‘chess match’
Blog

“Van Gundy noted there are a finite number of (realistic) ways to defend the most common play in basketball.

“There is only so many ways you can guard a pick-and-roll,” Van Gundy said. “We all will make adjustments and try to do what’s best. But it’s not like I have a way to play the pick-and-roll that Larry and his players have never seen and we are going to shock them with it tonight. And it’s not like Larry has got a way to play the pick-and-roll that is going to shock our guys, where Jameer is going to say, ‘Oh, my God I’ve never seen this before.’

“You have got to make plays.”
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So, no sleepy, the Bulls don’t need to practice playing against a college zone. Trust me, they do that in their sleep. This is the NBA man!

Big Daddy

May 4th, 2011
2:49 am

Great win for the Hawks!!! They showed focus and discipline (for the most part) and limited their turnovers. The defense they play was equal to what is needed at this level and my man Jeff Teague showed he was equal to the task.

Hopefully, LD will put some motion in the offense where D Rose is chasing Teague around all night. That will wear on his endurance and possibly aggrevate the ankle. Props to D Rose on MVP and giving his mother all the credit for keeping him on the straight and narrow and believing in his ability.

Grandad

May 4th, 2011
2:54 am

Rev

What are you doin’ up ?

I was gonna’ talk to you about that book;
but I wanted to finish it first.

I’m fascinated by it so far.

Mrs Grandad has read it once & she is going to re-read it.

I like to make up my own mind about stuff.

I have alot of friends who have all the answers,
before they read something…..
they condemn stuff while never having read it.

James on Pharr Rd

May 4th, 2011
3:02 am

drmaryb (*_-) on LD Adjustments

That is precisely what I said going into game 2 against ORL as well as game 5-both of which we lost and will happen again unfortunately. Unless LD is insistent on hiding his strategy from Chi before the game, we are in for quite a long night tonight….

jonn m

May 4th, 2011
3:19 am

The “cheap”Hawks are in upper half of NBA payrolls while the “committed to spend “Falcons are in the bottom half of NFL in payroll…I thought playoff were all that counted ..is it true that Arthur Blank is a director of the company that owns the AJC….does that make him Shultz’s boss …so much for accurate & tranparent journalism

superiorblogman

May 4th, 2011
4:26 am

Grandad: Yes I would sign and trade Josh for Nene, but I really don’t want to trade Josh, I just want him to play around the rim on offense and play top 10 defense in the league every night, but Josh just does not seem to want to get with the program or recognize what he is. I like Nene but he does not rebound better than Josh or protect the rim better than Josh. He is a total offensive upgrade of Josh but he makes our D worse. I just don’t know if the worse will be slightly or highly noticeable. “Love Wins” by Rob Bell huh? I have not read a novel in a couple of years. Think its about time I start back doing sane stuff like that.

Double Zero Eight

May 4th, 2011
8:18 am

Be prepared for the Bulls to get calls form the refs.
tonight. I hope Josh maintains his composure.
I wish he would stop discussing the calls with
the refs. as if they are going to change their minds.

Trojan

May 4th, 2011
8:19 am

The NBA wants certain teams to win. The Hawks are not one of them. Go Hawks.

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
8:49 am

James on Pharr

“That is precisely what I said going into game 2 against ORL as well as game 5-both of which we lost and will happen again unfortunately. ”
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You too are missing the point. The discussion is whether or not you make preemptive changes specifically on defense to start a game 2 of 7 after a game 1 convincing win?

This has nothing to do with whether you won that game in retrospect.
Since you mentioned it, we lost that game as some have argued because of the silly 2 foul rule levied against Al and a passive Joe scoring only 5 points.

Both of which have nothing to do with this topic. Neither does the abberatiion displayed in game 5. Each playoff game is entirely different from the next. No two are played exactly the same, both teams will make adjustments from quarter to quarter, time out to time to effect the only two possible outcomes:

Win or Lose.

JeJe

May 4th, 2011
8:56 am

JeJe

May 4th, 2011
8:58 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9inPEupwpvw

LOL Levenson and Nique are holding hands!

1:52

NagoyaHawk

May 4th, 2011
9:14 am

Interesting historical facts to look at. In the last four years (this year’s playoffs included), comparison of the Hawks & Bulls:

Hawks
Regular season: 181-147
Playoffs: 16-20

Bulls
Regular season: 177-151
Playoffs: 8-10

As great as the Bulls were this year, it was a 21-game improvement over last year and the year before, mediocre .500 records. I’m not saying the Hawks are destined to win, but how little the regular season really matters when it comes to the playoffs, the Hawks having been there the last four years and the Bulls in three of those.

It’s funny the world is shocked that the Hawks are doing well in these playoffs. All of us Hawks fans are equally shocked, but it’s not because we are doing well. We are shocked because we were all wondering WHEN we would put it together and do well. Finally, the time has come. Let’s celebrate folks. Regardless what happens, these Hawks are gonna fight. And it’s about darn time.

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
9:17 am

JeJe

Fantastic observation re: Levenson and Nique holding hands @ 1:52!
I saw that cameo of their faces in a flash on the playoff playback of game 1 on NBA TV yesterday and I was wondering if that was Gearon Jr with Nique?

It was great to finally see one of the 8 oragngutans at the game being supportive of this team. Of the 8, I only know what Gearon Jr. looks like,
(and of course Belkin).

You answered my question. I love those little details surrounding the games. JeJe, were they on the sidelines or behind the bench?
Like Mr. Blank, (and Mr. Cuban) I like to see the owners being a fan of their games and more importantly their teams. It makes the players play harder and be held more accountable on many levels.
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Both teams have key injuries, it’s the play offs so, rise up players!

Fireld!

May 4th, 2011
9:23 am

What was most impressive about Teague’s performance other than being expected to slow dwn the mvp and doing a solid job and staying professional while dealing with a boss who has completely tried to break any level of confidence he has(while stunting his development in the process) is his ability to adapt. This iso offense while it’s has seemed to work thus far does nothing for his true skill set. Althogh he can shoot he really does have the total package. The whole 2nd half he dribbled up the court and gave the ball to jj or jc. I just don’t see that working if we make it to the next round and Lebron is on Joe and Wade is on Jamal. We really need to run more picks out high for him and use his speed off the edge. He really has not been able to show even 1/2 what he can do. Just imagine Rondo in this offense passing the ball setting a pick for Joe and spotting up on the side. Yall saw his Jump shot last night. LD’s offense is very flawed. UNLEASH THE TEAGUE!

Justin

May 4th, 2011
9:28 am

Question to general audience.
I’ve followed the playoff games through gamecast and blogs because we can’t pick up the games here in Cambodia. For some reason Yankees baseball is playing on 3 different channels, but no playoffs. Anyway, Josh’s numbers are terrible for the playoffs compared to season averages. Al’s aren’t that much better. I know we’ve played two good defensive teams, but what seems to be the problem (besides Josh taking long jumpers) for these two guys? I would think that they would match up quite favorable with the people who have been guarding them. What are your thoughts?

Rev in Tampa

May 4th, 2011
9:55 am

Quick shout out to the Tampa Bay Lightning. They are set tonight to SWEEP Ovechkin and the TOP SEEDED Capitals to advance to the Conference Finals.

Is it coincidence that Tampa Bay is coming out of the 5th SEED???

You Didn't Think We Noticed?

May 4th, 2011
10:03 am

“Anybody that changes there screename is a phaggot (callingemout).”

………..says the blogger formerly known as Truthspitter.

Well, I guess if you’re gonna come out, it might as well be on the blog. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Sautee

May 4th, 2011
10:07 am

Grandad said:

“Ha haaaa, don’t you just love it, ain’t life grand !”

Yeah Grandad, it is.

For Hawks fans it’s just another beautiful day in paradox. ;-)

Slimjr

May 4th, 2011
10:28 am

“Hey Slimjr, you boy might be opting out of his contract

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17978868?source=rss&utm_source=feed…
Hey Blogman, maybe dreams do come true, Imagine NENE playing for us at the 5??? Wow!

You and Grandad are doing an awesome job discussing FA’s and drafting..You guys think more like GM’s well as Najee! I have some work do to do…LOL!

When you have some time search on this term “FalseFlag”….

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KCG

May 4th, 2011
10:33 am

You know the one thing that I don’t understand about Josh and our offence is how he is always on the perimeter for a jump shot. In the Chicago game the Hawks had him playing the 5 for the first time that I can remember but he was still on the perimeter offensively. It does not matter if he is playing the 3, the 4, or the 5, the guy is always out on the perimeter. Can anyone explain that?

Rufus1

May 4th, 2011
11:08 am

Josh shooting jumpers…

Josh shooting jumpers is a Jpsh problem, not an LD problem. Josh wants to be a jumpshooter, but he needs to ba a slasher.

Sleepy

May 4th, 2011
11:14 am

drmaryb (*_-) 0 you are in denial these are not preemptive changes . they are changes based on how the Bulls attacked on numerous factors .

you seemed to suggest that because we got the end result we wanted that everything went perfect and it didnt . You also have to take into account changes they will make .

In your opinion because we won the game should we ignore Deng destroying Marvin without ever really shooting a jumpshot ?

All the but one of the Bull made fgs in the first quarter came within 5 ft of the basket and Rose was very tentative .

You dont think that the Bulls noticed that they had a ton of success in the paint and that Rose was very tentative the entire first half ? He shot ZERO ft attempts for the first time in 61 games and you dont think we should anticipate them doing more of these things and trying to disrupt them early by maintaining the same strategy but giving them a different look for the first few minutes when the crowd will be at a frenzy after his MVP trophy presentation ?

A nice matchup zone that forces them to have to take those jumpshots that we know tonight they will try and avoid .

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
11:21 am

Word on the Street – Wednesday!
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Originally Published: May 4, 2011

Can Bulls, Lakers even the score?

Five writers forecast big Game 2s between the Hawks and Bulls, Lakers and Mavericks

ESPN.com

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The Lakers’ frontcourt has long been a source of strength. Now would be a good time to use it.

For the Bulls, what a week. Tom Thibodeau receives the coach of the year award, and the same night, the Hawks shock the Bulls while Derrick Rose turns his ankle on the final play. Then Rose has his expected MVP award confirmed. He will receive it Wednesday night, then has to lead the Bulls with a sore ankle, a target on him and his team on his back. Bottom line: The Bulls are down 1-0 and have to win Game 2.

Meanwhile, the goings-on in Laker Land, where people are still stunned by the Mavericks’ huge comeback win Monday, are no less momentous. Kobe and Phil are being questioned, Dirk and J-Kidd are being lauded, and scripts are being rewritten.

To help us get a handle on the surprises of Monday and what to expect Wednesday, we have multiple voices for these multiple choices:

1. Which five words best sum up Hawks-Bulls Game 1?

A. Hawks were better team Monday
B. Hawks made some unlikely shots
C. Bulls weren’t ready to rock
D. Maybe we overrated the Bulls
E. [Write your own headline here]



Patrick Hayes, PistonPowered: E. Maybe we underrated the Hawks. Derrick Rose is the best player in the series, but the Hawks have more tools offensively. Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford are streaky, but they can carry an offense. Al Horford is the best low-post player in the series. And Josh Smith can swing things for or against Atlanta. The Hawks are capable of repeating what happened in Game 1.

Devin Kharpertian, Nets Are Scorching: E. Hawks tough matchup for Bulls. Chicago doesn’t have a wing stopper it can throw at Joe Johnson. When Johnson is on, like he was in Game 1 (12-for-18, 34 points), Atlanta is a difficult team to beat. That said, JJ can’t shoot 5-for-5 from 3 every game, nor can he sustain that kind of production without attacking the basket.

Beckley Mason, HoopSpeak: E. Derrick Rose is not well. Jeff Fogle over at Hoopdata has detailed the precipitous decline in Rose’s free throw attempts since he sprained his ankle in Game 1 against the Pacers. The Bulls rely so heavily on his offensive production, which was fine when Rose was superhuman. A bum wheel has slowed him down, and that uncertainty has the Bulls (aside from Kyle Korver) looking skittish on both ends of the court.

Jeff Skibiski, Forum Blue & Gold: A. Hawks were better team Monday. Joe Johnson played like a superstar, the Hawks’ role players stepped up and they benefited from a big, confidence-building first quarter. But it’s hard to imagine that they’ll repeat that effort three more times against Chicago’s usually air-tight defense.

Michael Wallace, Heat Index: E. Time to give Hawks credit. What more do these Hawks have to do in the playoffs to get any sort of nod from the naysayers? When they’re on their game, their combination of athletes, jump shooters and length make them matchup nightmares. The problem is, the Hawks will soon have to deal with expectations, which is not their strength.

2. Which five words best forecast Hawks-Bulls Game 2?

A. Bulls begin faster, finish job
B. If Rose hobbled, Bulls lose
C. Joe, Jeff, Jamal still ballin’
D. Hawks can’t do that again
E. [Write your own headline here]



Patrick Hayes, PistonPowered: A. Bulls begin faster, finish job. The Bulls have led at halftime in just one of their six playoff games this season. That worked OK against Indiana. But even though the Hawks certainly aren’t an elite team, they’re much more comfortable closing out games than the Pacers. If the Bulls continue to start slow, they’ll pay for it.

Devin Kharpertian, Nets Are Scorching: D. Hawks can’t do that again. If anyone knows how to stop an opponent, it’s Chicago coach Tom Thibodeau. Atlanta probably will still make things interesting, but expect Johnson and the Hawks to fall back to earth. Chicago shouldn’t lose two straight at home.

Beckley Mason, HoopSpeak: A. Bulls begin faster, finish job. Chicago played about eight minutes of its signature, iso-inducing defense in Game 1. Expect the Bulls to put together far more than that Wednesday. Most defenses react to their opponent’s offense, but the Bulls have the ability to dictate the terms on that end. In general, they need to have more of an attacking mindset, and that’s a good place to start.

Jeff Skibiski, Forum Blue & Gold: D. Hawks can’t do that again. Atlanta’s shooters are always dangerous, but to shoot more than 50 percent from the field and behind the arc against a Tom Thibodeau-coached defense? The Hawks might win another game in Atlanta, but they’ll now get the Bulls’ best in Game 2.

Michael Wallace, Heat Index: A. Bulls begin faster, finish job. If only because it’s impossible to start any slower than they did in Game 1, when the Hawks scored the game’s first nine points before Chicago got going. Atlanta is great at playing with the lead, because it milks the shot clock with all that isolation. Expect Rose and Boozer to find their rhythm early and even the series.
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You Heard?

Calling 'em out

May 4th, 2011
11:30 am

JEJE, Slim jr and others,
I hate fair weather fans. When you say ish like hawks sux and they will lose in 1st round, then when they surpass that y’all jump backvon their Dix. Stay down during the good bad and ugly. That’s why Oakland, jets, saints, lions fans are the best. Their team sux they know it but they still rep their teams.

doc

May 4th, 2011
11:33 am

superior that is what ghandi and martin luther king lived on.

i went to the mlk center two weeos ago and was deeply moved almost to tears in one of the rooms. it was the time i grew up or should ibsayvthe caldron in which i was fired. it broght back some huge emotions of greatness does not always come easily nor does change of societies or within. go if you are close and can get there.

gd ill check it out. always looking for inspiration in my work.

doc

May 4th, 2011
11:36 am

false flag like some consider 9/11 slim?

Rufus1

May 4th, 2011
11:38 am

I don’t care if DRose shots 50ft as long as no one else does…

The Bulls scored 95pts on their home floor and lost, they are not that good an offensive team in the playoffs….That was their BEST OFFENSIVE GAME.

Tonight 90pts wins.

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
11:54 am

Steaks & Potatoes -vs- Strained Peas & Carrots!

For Sleepy: compare my analysis of strategy between games to Beckley (NBA Analyst that I copied here from an ESPN article of our game 2).

See the entire posted article above:

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Buckley said:

“Most defenses react to their opponent’s offense, but the Bulls have the ability to dictate the terms on that end. In general, they need to have more of an attacking mindset, and that’s a good place to start.”
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drmaryb said:

Defense is a reaction a response to being offended. Offense is an aggression an attack. So, since we whupped the Bulls azz convincingly?

There is nothing that requires a change on defense, except to play our defensive strategy that has already worked and is already in place – BETTER! If we began game 1 in a zone and started on a 9 – 0 run?
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Conclusion: so when the Bulls come out and attack, like they did in game 1, the Hawks will deploy the exact same defense that stopped them and buried them in a 9-0 hole to start the game. The Bulls called time out, made an adjustment and that didn’t work either. They ended the first quarter down 28 – 19.

So, why should the Hawks start game 2 with a drastic change on defense?

Answer: They shouldn’t! We are not the team with a match up problem, they are! If they figure us out? (and they should), fine! We call a time out and make an adjustment.

Anything else would be ASININE!
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I reiterate once more, a zone defense is what is played in High School. This is the NBA man. These guys don’t need practice for zone offenses – you just pass the ball from side to side and move w/o the ball.

They teach that on Rosetþa Stone DVD’s, it’s called:

YOUR BABY CAN READ
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Bye sleepy, I hope I’ve made my point clearly to you now. If not, oh well – I tried. LOL! Enjoy the game tonight, I have got to go pay some bills.

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
12:06 pm

You Can’t Get Blood from a Rock!

“drmaryb (*_-) 0 you are in denial these are not preemptive changes . they are changes based on how the Bulls attacked on numerous factors.”
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Ok, I give up. Sleepy you have no idea re: what I am saying.
Your responses are indicative that YOU, Sir, have ZERO reading comprehension skills whatsoever. I am not saying anything remotely close to what you are responding to and I’m done explaining my simple point 10 different ways.

Like my Father always said, “I have NO tolerance for ignorance.”

Good Luck with all that. Perhaps you can hire an interpreter to explain top you what I said, apparently you haven’t a clue and are more interested in hearing yourself type stuff. Communication is an exchange of ideas and I have debunked you with 7 types of smoke to say the same thing repeatedly, even with three outside, expert quotes.

Good Bye! -smile-

cp

May 4th, 2011
12:12 pm

A lot of these experts seem to or just want to forget just how bad the Bulls looked against the Pacers. They’re acting like they wont play as bad as they did in game one when they were bad in probably every game against the Pacers except for maybe one. I guess they have been clowning the Hawks for so long that they just refuse to admit that this team looks different than they have in the past.

J from the A

May 4th, 2011
12:13 pm

“[The Hawks] pick and roll coverages were very effective.” – Tom Thibodeau

The Hawks pick and roll coverages were effective?! That’s not something anyone thought anyone would honestly say about this Hawks team. Pick and roll was supposed to be the Hawks’ weakness.

But Tom is right. The Hawks pick and roll coverages were great in game 1.

As much as I give Teague a hard time, hats off to him, and, of course, hats off to our bigs with their strong, quick shows and great help D. Good pick and roll coverages really take a full team effort, and the Hawks showed that great team effort and great team execution on Monday. Let’s see ‘em do it again.

GO HAWKS!

JeJe

May 4th, 2011
12:27 pm

drmaryb,

I’m sure it was in the bench area or 2nd row seats somewhere.

IF ANY HAWKS STAFF/PLAYERS ARE READING THIS, PLEASE DO NOT COME OUT TONIGHT UNPREPARED. WE ALL HAVE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DO THAT. STAY RELAXED BUT ALSO DIVE FOR LOOSE BALLS AND PLAY WITH SOME TENACITY.

LET’S WIN TONIGHT AND NOT COME BACK TIL CHICAGO TIL NEXT SEASON

JeJe

May 4th, 2011
12:30 pm

WE CANNOT let Chicago get off to a 15-6 or 8-0 start. We CANNOT GET DOWN BIG ON THE ROAD

Callin’ Em Out, lick my nutsack. I have been as enthusiastic a Hawks fan as anyone else on this blog for years. I come here with my negativity because it’s the only way to unleash my anger about losing games (much better than being belligerent in person)

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
12:31 pm

One and Done!

“You seemed to suggest that because we got the end result we wanted that everything went perfect and it didnt . You also have to take into account changes they will make . ”
- asleep -
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You again are missing the point. The discussion is simple:

Here is the original Thesis:

Whether or not you make preemptive changes specifically on defense to start a game 2 of 7 after a game 1 convincing win?

I have argued this topic successfully. When the loser is debunked?

They change the topic entirely and build a Straw-Man!
E.G. “You seemed to suggest that because we got the end result we wanted that everything went perfect and it didnt . You also have to take into account changes they will make . ”
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I never said this! What does Deng have to do with the topic? Please feel free to copy and post my “DENG” comment to support this lie you are putting out on here.

When you do that? I will respond to it.

This conversation has been officially terminated.

The End!_

JeJe

May 4th, 2011
12:31 pm

*about should be *after

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
12:47 pm

Intelligence is a Learned behavior!

“We are all born ignorant – We learn to become intelligent”
- drmaryb -

Just like I was not born a doctor, I learned to become one born out of ignorance. When, I went to medical school – I was clueless and on many levels I still am when it comes to health knowledge. I will die clueless.
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J from the A posted an excellent comment here:

“[The Hawks] pick and roll coverages were very effective.” – Tom Thibodeau

The Hawks pick and roll coverages were effective?! That’s not something anyone thought anyone would honestly say about this Hawks team. Pick and roll was supposed to be the Hawks’ weakness.

But Tom is right. The Hawks pick and roll coverages were great in game 1.”
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Aye J! If you listen to sleepy? We should change our defense to a zone to start game 2 based on Lord knows what?

Go Figure that Illogic!

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
12:55 pm

JeJe on Fiyah!

Go JeJe Go! Great points re: playing relaxed. That is the ticket to win the game tonight. Great keys to a WIN!

Ignore your hater … You don’t have to explain yourself on here, that is an exercise in futility. Do You! We get You!

I Love You! You stole my heart 2 months ago! Mmmwah!

Slimjr

May 4th, 2011
12:58 pm

Yes Doc…..The rabbit hole goes real deep..

I was listening to Former professor of Mechanical Engineering at Clemson University, Dr. Judy Wood being interviewed on the radio broadcast coast to coast am with George Noory late last night who just wrote a book called ” Where did the Towers Go?”..Mind blowing stuff!! I fell a sleep on her! Shoot!!! She has a website that I am looking at today. It links from coast to coast am….interesting….

The math does not add up??

JeJe

May 4th, 2011
1:06 pm

Did anyone else catch the Jeff Teague interview on 790 this morning? Sounded half-asleep, tired, disinterested, didn’t want to be on air. LOL

drmaryb (*_-)

May 4th, 2011
1:07 pm

* @ 12:31PM. I posted the wrong sleepy – quote:
I should have posted this Straw-Man quote:

“In your opinion because we won the game should we ignore Deng destroying Marvin without ever really shooting a jumpshot ? “

Rod from College Park

May 4th, 2011
1:08 pm

SteveW,

“Rod – Don’t mean to drive this in the ground, but here’s what you said:”

You do mean to drive it in the ground, that why you keep replying.

“How is a guy averaging a double double not having a good playoffs?”

Never said he was not having a good playoffs, I said he was not playing like an All Star. Don’t put words in my mouth.

How is a guy leading his team in assists not having a good playoffs?

If you understand basketball, and notice that once the ball is brought across half court. In the playoffs, the Hawks have continually put Horford at the top of the key, and the point guard either hands the ball to him or passes to him. He has been the guy making the entry pass to Joe on the block, or Jamal coming off the curl. His assist are up based on the fact that Joe and Jamal are playing at a high level, and a funtion of the offense, not because he has turned into Magic Johnson in the playoffs.

“How is a guy who almost never turns the ball over not having a good playoffs?”

If you never dribble or attack the rim, it kind of hard to turn the ball over.

“All Stars are more than Points and FG%. Alot more to basketball than that.”

I guess its a coincidence that 98% of all the other All Stars have higher FG%, and points. If you want to crown him, crown him.

True Hawk Fan

May 4th, 2011
1:13 pm

I told you so. Go Hawks! Let’s do it again! Good job Jeff. Great game Joe. Way to shoot the ball Jamal. Excellent effort from the whole team. The Hawks are the no. 1 team in the city because they are the only team reaching the second round. But I expect more from the Falcons if they get to play. The Braves have a harder task. Not as good as they need to be. See you in the arena!

Daniel

May 4th, 2011
1:22 pm

I can’t believe I am doing this but….
Calling ‘em out: as much as I don’t care for JeJe’s posts (ALL CAPS GETS OLD) and to a lesser extent SlimJr., both of them are NOT fair weather fans. They have consistently been on here during good and bad times. This team has given us fans a lot of reason to doubt them. They have been a very difficult team to figure out, even the coach and players often don’t seem to know what to make of themselves.
JEJE and Slimjr. consider your back covered on this one.

Slimjr

May 4th, 2011
1:23 pm

“If you never dribble or attack the rim, it kind of hard to turn the ball over.”

@rod, good one Sir! LOL

Slimjr

May 4th, 2011
1:26 pm

Thanks @Daniel the “prophet”… LOL

I am having a great day and I hope you are too??

Westurd

May 4th, 2011
1:36 pm

Can it be 8:00 already!

Please please please let Teague and JJ have another big night. Please please please make us force Chicago to sweat it out for 48 mins and not let them bust it open in the first 5 minutes. Rise Up Hawks!

vava74

May 4th, 2011
1:47 pm

What’s the infatuation with Nene?

Yeah, he’s big and a decent player, but his per 36min career averages in rebounds and blocks are:

8.4 and 1.1 respectively.

Daniel

May 4th, 2011
1:59 pm

Slimjr.- word.
I have actually coined the term “the highlight syndrome” to define the state of mind of true Hawks fans. We are always optimistic that our team can win but only if “everything” changes… Look, we have a superstar[sic] in Joe Johnson who bashes the fans after embarrassing us and himself in the playoffs last year, but then actually takes ownership a whole year later. We have an unkown at PG, which means that he is always the next Chris Paul or a complete dud. We have the most erratic player in the league, Josh Smith. We have a PF/Center who has a sweet mid range game, but is out of position. We have a bench that can shoot you in and out of a game. We have a team of All Stars or potential All Stars who still get blown out by 20+ points. Yet, we still love ‘em. So no one can be held accountable on this blog in my opinion. We all sound crazy when discussing this team, because of “the highlight syndrome.”

JeJe

May 4th, 2011
2:01 pm

6 hours til gametime.

Can this night please be different? Before games 2 and 5 of Orlando series, I was begging for this team to shock us. They already shocked most people by beating Orlando and winning game 1 vs. Chicago.

LET THIS NIGHT BE DIFFERENT. LET’S NOT GO BY THE SCRIPT AND LOSE TONIGHT AND EXPECT TO SWEEP AT HOME.

WIN TONIGHT DAMNIT

JeJe

May 4th, 2011
2:01 pm

THANKS DANIEL

JeJe

May 4th, 2011
2:05 pm

I am sensing this is one of those games where Rose WOULD go off for like 37 and 12 assists and show why he is MVP. This is what would happen 99.99% of the other time.

But that won’t happen tonight…

IF we don’t get off to a slow !@#$%y start

Grandad

May 4th, 2011
2:36 pm

vava74 – @ 1:47 pm

“What’s the infatuation with Nene” ?

He doesn’t shoot jump shots [perhaps] ?

Rod from College Park

May 4th, 2011
2:46 pm

Grandad,

Good answer. LOL

SteveW

May 4th, 2011
2:50 pm

Rod – I know you played college BB in South Carolina. I head coached BB on a small college level, and played for many years. So I understand a little basketball.

That’s called running the offense thru Al which most basketball observers have been saying we should have been doing all season.

And if you want to ignore rebounding totals of 12, 14, 12, and 13 the last 4 games, which is the Hawks (maybe) biggest weakness, go ahead.

And getting at least 1 block a night, go ahead.

And playing good D, go ahead.

And playing 41.2 mpg the last 5 games, go ahead.

Just focus on his FG%, scoring and FT’s, go ahead.

And don’t worry, I’ll call Al out also when he’s not playing well.

Your the one that repeatedly kept asking “Where is All Star Al?”

So when I showed where he was besides scoring, I guess you didn’t like it to well, I dunno.

But as you said, you’ve got your opinion, I’ve got mine.

But I guess we’re both Hawks fans and want to see us win!

I hope All Star Al shows up tonight!! I have a feeling he’s a key to this game.

Daniel

May 4th, 2011
2:53 pm

What is the over/under on “bad” Josh Smith jumpshots?
I place it at 5.
If less than 5, then Josh is having a good game or in foul trouble.
If greater than 5, well, we are probably losing.

SteveW

May 4th, 2011
2:55 pm

My prediction for tonite:

Chicago comes out fired up. Rose flies around the court. Teague makes a few mistakes, helped by Chicago focusing on him.

Then Rose and Boozer start feeling their injuries by late in the 2nd quarter. The Hawks may be down by 10 or more.

Rose tries to fly after halftime, but after 5 or 6 minutes, slows way down.

And if the Hawks play smart and patient, they catch up and maybe win the game at the end.

We’ll see.

We’ll probably get blown out by 50.

JeJe

May 4th, 2011
2:58 pm

LOL @ people who want Nene. Of course the guy can play, but he is opting out of making 12 MILLION this coming year. That’s a ton of money. He is definitely looking to get $50/4 or something in that ballpark.

Some people don’t realize we have A LOT OF MONEY on our payroll for next year and will be over the cap. The only way to get him would be to trade Horford (no way) or Smoove (why would they want him when they already have Al Harrington and Danilo?) in a S&T.

Love Nene though (no homo)

SteveW

May 4th, 2011
2:59 pm

And I gotta disagree with LD on Teague’s consistency. The guy has been uber constistent the last 30 games of the season:

1) Not committing turnovers

2) Playing very good, almost elite D at times.

His offense has been inconsistent, but that’s no reason to bench the guy.

I’m thinking LD has seen flashes of brilliance, and wants Teague to be brilliant all of the time. Watching he and Rose side by side shows Teague is nowhere near the player Rose is.

LD should say he wants Teague solid, and the more he plays, the brilliance will come more and more.

I think LD is wanting brilliance all of the time, and Teague is just not there yet.

SteveW

May 4th, 2011
3:00 pm

Rod – But let me also say this, and I will repeat – Al is not an All Star PF. Maybe one day, but not now. He’s only an All Star C, in a League with a dearth of C’s.

Daniel

May 4th, 2011
3:09 pm

Steve W. your prediction is hilarious and extremely accurate.
the highlight syndrome strikes again.

Sleepy

May 4th, 2011
3:19 pm

drmaryb (*_-)
May 4th, 2011
12:47 pm

Aye J! If you listen to sleepy? We should change our defense to a zone to start game 2 based on Lord knows what?

Go Figure that Illogic!

Actually little internet man who likes to talk out of his arse

Im sure J understands exactly what Im talking about

disrupting the bulls aggressiveness by throwing a little bit of a zone at them to start of the 1st quarter

Under Woody we used that zone to corral Rose and help us win three of four games vs the Bulls in 2009

We havent seen the zone since LD’s been here so no they wont be expecting it and contrary to your belief they dont practice it in there sleep and they DONT WANT TO SHOOT FROM THE OUTSIDE.

This takes the air right out of the building to start ,it limits foul shot opportunities and forces them to do exactly the opposite of what they want to do.

This simply would be another weapon added to the different looks we have already given the Bulls defensively. Not for 48 minutes but to squash that energy at the start of the game and to say hey Derrick Rose league MVP we will not allow you to get 3-4 straight ticky tack fouls calls against Teague or Al/Josh to start the game youre going to have to make some jumpshots

If you think that somehow playing a zone against this team is somehow illogical or radical then obviously you dont know as much as you would like us to think you do .

joe white

May 4th, 2011
3:53 pm

hawks in six baby

JeJe

May 4th, 2011
5:34 pm

I think 3 years ago, Woody was more concerned about winning our home games and making it a 7 game series than actually winning