Orlando–”Growth” has been the buzzword for the Hawks over the last two days.
Marvin: “We have an opportunity to show some growth. We’ve had a chance to close series [early] in the past and we haven’t done that.”
Al: “This is the first time we’ve been in this kind of position where we are up 3-1. We are a different team but they are coming out and giving us all they have. We have to make sure we come out ready and expect it and it will show some growth if we are able to come out on top.”
L.D.: “With this team I am always talking about this team growing. To me them positioning themselves to go into Orlando and finish this thing off, that’s a huge step in our growth process.”
I know what you are thinking. The Hawks have bigger goals than winning a first-round playoff series. That’s true but I’m also inclined to agree that a W tonight would mean be significant in a few ways.
Already the Hawks are the second team in franchise history to lead a seven-game series 3-1 (the ‘69-70 squad beat the Bulls in five). Win tonight and they would be the fifth time in 15 tries that an Atlanta Hawks team closed out a playoff series on the road (the ‘95-’96 squad was the last to do it, winning at Indiana). It also would be just the third time in 24 series the Atlanta Hawks won as the lower seed and the first time in a best-of-seven.
And let’s not forget that the Magic bludgeoned the Hawks last spring, prompting everyone to question their heart. Beating the Magic in five, even a different Magic team, would have to count for something.
That’s historical perspective. From a practical standpoint, the Hawks need the rest. Going seven games with Miami and Milwaukee the past two seasons didn’t help. That was especially true last season, when expectations for the Hawks were high and the Milwaukee series felt like a letdown.
“We were more worn out mentally than physically,” L.D. said. “We were already battered mentally and then we had had to gear up for what was going to be a physical pounding we knew that was going to happen during that series. It took a toll on us.”
So here’s a chance for the Hawks to put away the Magic and get a break between series. It won’t be easy.
“Coming back to this building, the energy is going to be high,” L.D. said. “The Magic have a lot of pride. They play hard. We have to expect we are not going to get a lot of calls. There’s a certain mentality you definitely have to have to close out a team. You play to be the desperate team as well. You don’t play like you have a 3-1 lead; you play like you’re behind 3-1. You play like this is the last game for you.”
More on those missed 3s
It seems one popular narrative in the series is that the Magic are missing bushels of wide open 3s. So I fired up the Synergy Sports Technology machine again to see if the video evidence supports that story.
In Game 3, the Magic got nine clean looks on 3-pointers (not counting heaves at the buzzer) and made four. One of those clean looks was a Redick miss when the Hawks pretty much let him shoot because Orlando was down four with time about to expire.
In Game 4, the Magic got eight clean looks on 3-pointers (not counting heaves at the buzzer) and made two. One of those clean looks was an Arenas miss after Jamal tripped and fell to the court (Jamal, by the way, aggressively defend 3s in that game after hardly working at it in the first three).
The Magic have attempted a total of 90 3-pointers in the series when subtracting the six heaves at the buzzer. By my count they’ve had 39 “clean” looks (43 percent of their legit attempts) and made 13, or 33 percent. I don’t know how many clean looks the Magic normally get or how many they usually make but it’s a pretty safe guess that they are accustomed to more open looks and making more of them.
There’s more to this story when you look at the video. The definition of a “clean” look is subjective but I can tell you mine was pretty liberal because these are NBA players in general and proven 3-point shooters in particular. I counted some looks as “clean” when Hawks defenders were quickly closing to challenge but didn’t appear to get a hand in the shooter’s face or into the expected path of the shot.
Those plays have happened a lot in this series. It’s been rare that a Magic shooter is standing alone outside of the 3-point line without the shot either being directly challenged or with the imminent threat of a closing defender. The Hawks have been very aggressive on their close-outs against Magic players other than Jameer (whom they don’t have to challenge as hard because he’s shorter) because none of them are a real threat to score off the dribble.
If Orlando’s 3-point shooters don’t look comfortable, could that be less about choking and more about being thrown off balance by swarms of long, athletic Hawks defenders buzzing around them? You can see on video that even when the Magic do get clean looks from 3 they tend to rush their shots. Could at least part of the reason for that be because they get only half a beat before a Hawks player is running at them to close off the space?
Maybe that’s why today Stan Van Gundy said: “We have to shoot the ball better, which I think in some ways means we have to have better patience and execution to create better shots.”
Again, I don’t know how many clean looks the Magic usually get in a game. I do know that a principle of their offense is to get those looks by way of Dwight post-ups leading to spot-up 3s. And I can tell you that after four games in this series the Magic still have gotten exactly one open 3-pointer in that manner. One.
That’s stymied the Magic’s effectiveness with spot-up Js, which was of one of their most effective play types in the regular season. Like Ryan Anderson said the other day, the Hawks are forcing the Magic to get their 3-point looks in different ways. It’s not going well for Orlando.
After looking at replays of all of Orlando’s 3-point attempts in this series, my take is that the “Magic are missing open shots” theory holds less water than the “aggressive Hawks defenders are disrupting Orlando’s shooters” theory.
Notes
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
608 comments Add your comment
Najeh Davenpoop
April 26th, 2011
8:30 pm
Magic 5/10 from 3.
J from the A
April 26th, 2011
8:30 pm
Another moving screen by Howard.
thwg
April 26th, 2011
8:30 pm
agree Buddy. One of the dumbest coaching moves in the playoffs
bigdave
April 26th, 2011
8:30 pm
if we know they’ve quit.. you know they know when they’ve quit on each other..
put in some hungry players LD before we lose all confidence and it carries over.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 26th, 2011
8:30 pm
The closeouts on the 3 point shooters have been awful in this game.
Slimjr
April 26th, 2011
8:31 pm
AL IS PLAYING LIKE MARVINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!COME ON ALLSTAR AL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
honest_abe
April 26th, 2011
8:31 pm
nice drive josh.. lets play some mother…. defense!
Rod from College Park
April 26th, 2011
8:31 pm
No reason why Horford should not be dominating Ryan Anderson on the block.
O'Brien
April 26th, 2011
8:31 pm
northcyde,
Too many jumpers from the Hawks, even when Dwight was out of the game.
22 of their 32 shots have been outside the paint.
cp
April 26th, 2011
8:31 pm
the drive and kick is killing the Hawks right now
honest_abe
April 26th, 2011
8:31 pm
finish this half strong please
thwg
April 26th, 2011
8:32 pm
can we still get it to 10 before half
bigdave
April 26th, 2011
8:32 pm
15 would be ideal
Melvin
April 26th, 2011
8:32 pm
Just let the bench play in the 2nd half. The Hawks are looking forward to game 6…..
hawkfan
April 26th, 2011
8:33 pm
ok so we lost this game now i can see us losing this series if we don’t show up on thursday, hope we fans had fun so far but the tide is turning oh so quickly
ceeCee
April 26th, 2011
8:33 pm
Joe is moving very slow tonight. His defense has been absent these playoffs
I feared that if the Magic start making shots we would get blown out like last year because when we get down by alot we dont play within ourselves and we go into 1 on 1 mode.
We know the refs are not on our side but we wanna move on so we gotta man up and play smart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VERY SMART………
Where is Teague and Damien…these guys look tired! Geeeessh
Slimjr
April 26th, 2011
8:33 pm
NEWS FLASH!!!! ALLSTAR AL U AINT AN ALLSTAR.NEXT YEAR YOUR GOING FISHING….
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
April 26th, 2011
8:33 pm
Growth!?! Right now it appears like ‘arrested development’ is setting in.
I am not able to see the game right now, are they throwing the game in order to generate playoff revenue at Phillips in game 6?
Man Man
April 26th, 2011
8:33 pm
Same ol hawks
Jermaine
April 26th, 2011
8:34 pm
This is just pathetic. The only guy doing anything right now is Horford, and the sad thing is that no matter how hard one or two players work, the rest of the idiots will ruin things.
Blast
April 26th, 2011
8:34 pm
The game is simply gonna come down to this. Can Magic continue to make open jumpers left and right, or can Hawks display maturity coupled with better defence and offense?
Slimjr
April 26th, 2011
8:34 pm
ANT BANKS, I BELIEVE YOU WONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE HAWKS GOING TO AN ECF THIS YEAR…..LOL
bigdave
April 26th, 2011
8:35 pm
MOVE THE BALL JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ceeCee
April 26th, 2011
8:35 pm
I thought we werent doubling down on Dwight??? Why have we changed this in game 5!!!!!!!!!!
Stay on the shooters!!
O'Brien
April 26th, 2011
8:35 pm
In 9 minutes, Jamal is -16.
Geemack
April 26th, 2011
8:35 pm
This is the Hawks team I thought I would see the entire playoffs. The undisciplined , jump shooting, non competitive, no hustle, and no defense playing Hawks.
This is the team the city refuses to get behind and we see why. It’s one thing to lose but a blowout is unacceptable.
Game 5 is over. Hope they have a better showing in game 6.
thwg
April 26th, 2011
8:36 pm
Josh is trying to take a page out Brian Westbrook’s shooting numbers
bird
April 26th, 2011
8:36 pm
What took LD so long to call a timeout in the first QTR? He waited until the team was down 10pts.. It was to late at that point.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 26th, 2011
8:37 pm
Hawks look a little more alive after that timeout, but it’s too late at this point.
James on Pharr Rd
April 26th, 2011
8:37 pm
Like MC said of which I co-sign to the tee-We have to stick this Magic team on defense: droughts are fine, as long as we are not worrying too much and digging the ball out of the net every play. Jamal gotta sit this one out for a while if we are to win this game-he can always come back in when the storm is calm. We gotta go big big big and grind it out on the boards.
thwg
April 26th, 2011
8:37 pm
so much for the stop. that was way too easy
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
April 26th, 2011
8:37 pm
what is that? wdf
Rev in Tampa
April 26th, 2011
8:37 pm
Ole defense by jj
bigdave
April 26th, 2011
8:37 pm
Joe just coasting on d.. smh.
Slimjr
April 26th, 2011
8:37 pm
THIS MAY GO 7 AND THEN HAWKS MELTDOWN AGAIN?? WOW,,
bigdave
April 26th, 2011
8:37 pm
EFFORT EFFORT EFFORT
thwg
April 26th, 2011
8:38 pm
WTF?!?
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
April 26th, 2011
8:38 pm
smh
Rev in Tampa
April 26th, 2011
8:38 pm
Ole defense by Jamal
O'Brien
April 26th, 2011
8:38 pm
JJ didnt even try to stop Richardson. And then Jamal gets stripped. SMH
Slimjr
April 26th, 2011
8:38 pm
GET READY REMOTE CAUSE THIS IS BEYOND UGLY….SH_T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
thwg
April 26th, 2011
8:38 pm
FIRE LARRY DREW!!
Sautee
April 26th, 2011
8:39 pm
Magic end with two straight layups with Joe and Jamal giving up WAY too easily.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 26th, 2011
8:39 pm
If memory serves me right, Smoove is 3/5 on jumpers and 1/7 on everything else.
cp
April 26th, 2011
8:39 pm
Jamal getting abused off the dribble
Slimjr
April 26th, 2011
8:39 pm
BYE SUND,BYE LARRY…
Hawks vs Magic
April 26th, 2011
8:39 pm
well lets see if Joe can be a take control guy in the 2nd half or if he’ll just fade into the background and leave the leadership to someone else
ceeCee
April 26th, 2011
8:39 pm
JOE JOHNSON’S DEFENSE LOOKS LIKE S&*&^%^%$%&^*!
IF HE AINT GONNA SCORE HE CANAT LEAST HELP US OUT IN OTHER WAYS!!! MY GOODNESS..GET RID OF THIS BUMM…
Jae Evolution
April 26th, 2011
8:39 pm
Knicks came back against the Celtics from being down 23, the Magic won’t continue to hit their shots at this rate. If we play smart and go at Dwight get him out of the game, we can manage a comeback.
BILLY KNIGHT
April 26th, 2011
8:39 pm
No transitition points every thing half court, can’t win like that.