Atlanta Hawks: Video: Hawks-Magic post-game report
I joined Josh Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel to talk about Atlanta’s 88-85 victory over the Magic in Game 4.
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mykhalc
April 25th, 2011
4:02 pm
as a Hawks fan i’m always glad for a W. as a bball fan i hate the AAU play of the Hawks and their lack of discipline. Kerr summed it up perfectly…it is NOT championship caliber ball…from either team…PERIOD!!! but i don’t give a $hit about the other team. i hate the Hawks offensive sets 90% of the time and i would hate these sets EVEN if they won 2 rounds. the FOOL’S GOLD will be exposed against CHI or IND if the Hawks advance where the match-ups at ALL postions will be tougher and more team-ball schemes are used. CHI goes hard to the rim on every play…ok NOT every play…but you know what i sayin’. smarter, team ball is all i ask for!!! other than new ownership, KA BOOM, and a new HC!!! not askin’ much at all!!!LOL
@Wabe…good posts in the previous blog.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 25th, 2011
4:06 pm
Also from the previous blog…
“Josh Smith’s defense has made it nationally, as many in the national media today are saying ‘where is Hedo?’ The answer- he’s where ever Josh tells him to go.”
You know I am one of the bigger Smoove supporters on this blog, but I think Turkoglu’s own passive mentality has contributed a lot more to his disappearance than Smoove’s D, which to me hasn’t been all that great. Smoove’s strength on D is not chasing players around screens on the perimeter, which is what he has been asked to do in this series since he’s playing out of position, and to me it shows. I don’t have nearly as big a problem with the shot selection, which is a team wide issue largely resulting from the offensive scheme and LD’s inability to consistently get his players to do what he wants, as I do with the not so great man to man D on Turkoglu. I think Smoove can do better in that department.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 25th, 2011
4:11 pm
“Great game plan, JeJe! Drive the ball to the basket so Howard can smack it to the parking deck…. SMH.”
JeJe is right. Even when Dwight is in the game, more often than not he is getting sealed in the lane by Collins or stretched out of the paint by Al, so he’s not always in position for the block. And both Smoove’s hook and Joe’s floater, although they are pretty close shots, are shot from far enough away that it’s not a given that Dwight can get there in time for the block anyway. Those, along with Al’s mid range jumper, are the Hawks’ most consistently high percentage looks. I have no problem riding Jamal while he has it going, but they have to recognize when he doesn’t and accordingly go to what is most likely to work.
Grandad
April 25th, 2011
4:14 pm
Daniel
Answering your thought about motivating Josh:
[to go into the paint]
I could do it, guaranteed !
“Put their hind on the pine”
–C.M. Newton– HC Vanderbilt *(at the time of the quote)
*[on motivating his players to do what he wanted]
A * “Master Coach” would have the b@lls to sit Josh down,
[every] time, (not just every now and again) but [every] time
he did opposite what you, the coach want.
A real coach *(Master Coach) does not ever worry about his job,
(getting fired) he does the right thing, for the team. (got b@lls)
Trust me, a good / real coach can’t give a crap about anything
except what’s best for his team. period.
Good to hear from you Daniel;
the more we hear from you the less we hear from northcyde !
Only kiddin’ -nc- anyone could easily crack the same joke about me.
Slimjr
April 25th, 2011
4:14 pm
“Chris Paul is the same way. He has the ball constantly in his hands and is setting up other people for shots. No elaborate ball movement when it comes to them. It’s all on him to make plays for himself, and for others.”
@NC,
CP3 is special he’s like Magic, with the xray vision, see stuff developing before it happens or probing the very small openings and crevices and kicking down doors with his cat like gifts delivering pin point/crisp passes that even Collins could handle in the paint for an easy 2!!!!!!!!!!!! The black mamba could not deny him!!! 15 dimes last night against the Champs…Shoot…
he can dribble as much as he wants too because he has purpose and will not be denied!
CP3 is a 1st ballot Hall of Fame type player, and we coulda had him!!!!! SHOOT
Najeh Davenpoop
April 25th, 2011
4:18 pm
Co-sign both of Section 303’s posts.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 25th, 2011
4:20 pm
And with all due respect to Derrick Rose, nobody runs a team like CP3. CP3 may not be super quick or super athletic anymore but that game he played last night was one of the best all around games I have ever seen from a point guard. He looked like Kidd in his prime but with a jumpshot.
Grandad
April 25th, 2011
4:24 pm
* honest_abe – @ [12:11 pm]
“so sick of this word “hatin” .
expand your vocabulary.
most here were hawks fans before you even knew what basketball was”
** Co-Sign / AARP / Ditto / Check-mate / Touche / Love thy Neighbor / Amen
Grandad
April 25th, 2011
5:04 pm
northcyde
Before I begin, I respect your acuity with statistics.
But you confound me with some of your statements:
“It sounds great to move the ball on every possession
and get the easiest shot”
No – it doesn’t only sound great, it’s;
(1) fundamental
(2) the correct way to attack
(3) necessary
Two essentials: (in any offense)
* ball must change sides of the floor
* player movement of some sort (even if you run pick & roll)
You need to be aware that Paul & Rose many times are running
pick and roll, then go into Iso only after a set play breaks down.
They are not going 1 on 5 every play.
nc on Rose:
“No fancy offense ran by the Bulls concerning him.
It’s simply him going for his own shot,
then setting up other people when he’s doubled.”
*[are you serious] You really don’t believe that.
“Chris Paul is the same way.
He has the ball constantly in his hands
and is setting up other people for shots.
No elaborate ball movement when it comes to them.
It’s all on him to make plays for himself, and for others”
*[not many CP3's out there]
+[he does not have a great supporting cast]
northcyde:
I’m actually supporting your overall argument, I think,
in that, I’m all for Jamal having a free hand to shoot & make plays.
Ditto Joe if he makes quicker decisions.
Plus Joe needs to realize the 3-ball is not there for him this yr.
*[lingering elbow trouble]
I just disagree with your viewpoints on offensive basketball
on a fundamental level.
Sorry, my friend, have a nice rest of the day.
Nate ArchiBALL
April 25th, 2011
6:50 pm
Interesting numbers: Josh and All Star Al — Playoffs vs regular season
Josh Smith
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/josh_smith/index.html
Al Horford
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/al_horford/index.html
Big drop off in FG% from Al during the playoffs…55% to 42%.
I wonder what Hollinger has to say about these numbers
Sleepy
April 26th, 2011
12:12 am
Northcyde – well said this playoff basketball some of these people get way too caught it with what the tv pundits are talking to understand that they are all walking contradictions .
We dont have some imposing physical presence in the paint nor some otherworldly pg so why do they think there is some offense out there that in the playoffs generates easy baskets ?
By game 4 your opponent has now seen your plays dozens of time and have prepared for it .It doesnt get easier it gets harder but in no way do you go away from whats working until you are forced too.
We take too many jumpshots we should throw it into the 1995 version of Shaq we have on the block .
Last year the magic realized they were getting a bunch of threes from our doubling Dwight they didnt say oh we will stop shooting those even though we are making them and do something else .
If we can close it out tomorrow well then next series we might have to find something else to exploit against the Bulls but you make that decision when the time comes and then if we make it out of the second there might be even a another matchup to exploit .
Playoffs basketball is all about exploiting the matchups and right now we have forced orlandos hands and they cant adjust why let them off the hook ?