Atlanta Hawks: Videos: Wild finish, fight fallout and press conference

Sorry for the lack of the usual post-game writeup last night, blog people. Technical issues threw a wrench in those plans.

Here is my post-game report with CineSport’s Noah Coslov and Josh Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel. Game highlights and press conference also are posted below.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

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shizz

April 23rd, 2011
9:38 am

shizz

April 23rd, 2011
9:39 am

all around good game. Not great. Two down, two go. lets get it! LETS GO HAWKS!!!

NUNNA!!

April 23rd, 2011
9:45 am

1st!!
Great shot Jamaal!!
Great win Hawks!!
And im so freaking proud of our fans for showing up like we did!

LD,u know i still have issues with u but congrats on da win..

Heading back to da ATL now..

NUNNA!!

April 23rd, 2011
9:46 am

My bad..I was third if u count shizz twice lol

Iceman

April 23rd, 2011
9:52 am

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Iceman

April 23rd, 2011
9:55 am

My bad on the previous post. ZAZA never backs down from the battle, we need to show other teams that we are tough and will bring it. Great win, GO HAWKS!!!

JeJe

April 23rd, 2011
10:02 am

Honestly,

The only time I see this team get the ball inside is when Joe does that floater (which he is s uccessful at) or Smoove drives and does the hookshot. Other than that, it’s all jumpshots.

It may be nice watching Jamal hit fadeaway 3s, but that won’t happen much vs teams like Chi, BOS, or Mia

WE NEED EASY BASKETS

WE WILL LIVE AND DIE BY THE JUMPSHOT

And if z is suspended, so should Dwight. Remember Kobe throwing those elbows a few years ago and getting suspended a game each (one was on Manu)? Suspended Dwight’s @$$ or don’t suspend anyone. What ZaZa did is the exact same as what he did to KG a few years ago

terrell

April 23rd, 2011
10:03 am

Did anyone else see Josh calling for the ball at the 3pt line? Glad Jamal ignored him. lol

JeJe

April 23rd, 2011
10:15 am

The league CANNOT suspend Z for that. His headbutt was THE SAME THING HE DID TO KG 3 YEARS AGO. IT WAS HARDLY A HEADBUTT

J-RICH’S SLAP IS WHAT SHOULD BE SUSPENDED. HE INSTIGATED IT. DWIGHT THREW THE ELBOW. ZAZA’S ARM WAS DESTROYED FROM DWIGHT’S ANNOYING PLAY.

CAN WE PLEASE BENCH MARVIN FOR DAMIEN? PUT IN SOMEONE WHO WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE GAME. MARVIN JUST STANDS AT THE 3 PT LINE

SO DOES JOSH

JOSH WAKE UP

Section 303

April 23rd, 2011
10:16 am

I can’t stand Dwight Howard…what a douchebag.

Gotta assume Zaza gets suspended, but I don’t think he should. J-Rich was the cause of all that. The play did not involve J-Rich at all. He stays away and the altercation never happens. The league should take that into account before handing down any punishment.

Let’s hope Thomas is back from his Grandfather’s funeral. I think he can help. And, of course, hope Twin can play. After that…I don’t want to see Hilton Armstrong on the floor again. Powell did OK in Game one. Hawks can still make Howard work, even if Zaza has to sit.

Biggest thing for Game 4 is decision making. Josh Smith was awful in the 2nd half. Between stupid shots and horrible passes, LD had no choice but to sit him. Josh continues to drive me nuts. He has all the tools and when he is locked in, like he was early, he’s really good. But that does not happen often enough.

I watched the replay of the game this morning. Jon Berry put it well regarding Josh: “You look at his numbers, and they look good. But, when you watch, you see the numbers do not tell the whole story.” Couldn’t have said it better myself.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 23rd, 2011
10:19 am

Did yall see Kirk refuses to pass Josh the ball outside the 3?
He looked him off several times last night. Totally, ignored him camped out there.

Did yall see Kirk, pull Josh away from SVG and Ref, while arguing a fouls call, while Magic was shooting the FT’s?

Captn Kirk, like Jamal may have found a team where they actually fit solid roles and needs! Kirk finally has new life! Great Move by Sund, brilliant to get him here. We don’t need any more #20 picks for this team. If not a Top 5? We need some Vets people!

Ben Wallace
Tayshaun Prince

Type talent is needed. We ned some 30 year olds now!
The youth movememt is done here! Please shop Marvin, we could use his money to sign Jamal! Get Teague ready this Summer!

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

April 23rd, 2011
10:22 am

Terrell,
what a fool believes he sees, no coach has the power to reason away.

doc

April 23rd, 2011
10:23 am

richardson made first contact on zaza, soft but in the heat of the moment talking trash he got off ligh and was fair game for soft head butting emphasis to the talkt. not much of a fight as both guys held back a bit. would like some statement about the elbow tech dwight got. in a fair world all three would be open game for either no or all getting some consequence as the whole cant be separated into individual events. my guess or hope is they are not going to do anything against dwight therefore nothing more except a fine to all three and let them play rather than a suspension. if there is a suspension it means stern wants to exert editorial influence to how the story turns out. it was more girlie action than a real fight.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 23rd, 2011
10:32 am

Super Man?

More like Diaper-Man. What is this guy crying about, all the time?
He is getting 10 fouls per game as it is.

Mighty Mouse? More like Mighty – Mouth! What a loser.
His first game presser was pathetic, he sat there, hung his head and said nothing! No Shows for games 2 & 3. And, he’s the co-captain?

Dwight pressers are equally pathetic, he had turrible body language after both losses, he is not any type of leader. Conversely, CP3 loses, brings his son to the microphone and speaks intelligently re: their loss and held his head up like a classy young man!

Kobe’s presser shows what a jerk he really is, very sarcastic and arrogant demeanor as usual.
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Great Team Win. If ZaZa gets 1 game (and he shouldn’t) then JRich should get 2! Dwight deserves a one game suspension as well for his instigator antics! What is difference in throwing an elbow -vs- a fist.
And, he actually feels it is OK to throw elbows? Really?
What a Loser! But, hey … If he’s available? I’ll take him!
We could have him if he wants to come home, I wouldn’t touch that core-four though:

Joe
Al
Josh
Jamal

wordsmithtom

April 23rd, 2011
10:42 am

DrMary,
I couldn’t have said it better. Kirk provided a role….the seasoned vet to direct traffic and play solid defence. In time, JC2 may prove a better player. Now, however, JC2 can’t do what Kirk did last night. To win in playoffs, you need veteran leadership and savvy. Kirk gave that. No, he’s not the point guard of the future, but he’s sure a good point guard for NOW. Who knows what the long term brings us.
Marvin, if he can bring us a solid center, I’m all for it. But, don’t give him away, certainly to an east coast team. Much of his disappearance is due to where the coach puts him on the floor. His value is much greater than most of us fans appreciate. He could really help Portland, Denver, or Sac. A change of venue could help him as well. He is not our problem, but he could bring a better fit if we can get a center and keep JC1 at the same time.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 23rd, 2011
10:48 am

Girly Man!

“it was more girlie action than a real fight.” -doc-
________________

JRich bytch slap was definitely girlie.
But, that Head-Butt was brutal! Real Man stuff there.

Evander Holyfield mastered “The Head-Butt of GA” and that caused
“The Ear Removal of Iron Mike” This Head-Butting is a thing of beauty!

Very Georgia-Esque, heh? I never saw a girl use The Head-Butt, The Butt maybe, but never the Head-Butt.

That thang can cause concussive headaches.

Rev in Tampa

April 23rd, 2011
10:52 am

dr mary,

I saw you bringing the hotsauce on the Magic blog. They didn’t know how to respond since all they’re used to is Wal-Mart brand ketchup.

ML

April 23rd, 2011
10:54 am

I have noticed game-changing plays that usually revolve around Josh Smith. During the season, the game will be close. Josh may drive to the lane and fumble the rock or get fouled and not get the call. What does he do? Spend crucial seconds arguing with the refs while the opponent start a 5 on 4 to break open the game. Other times it is his propensity to stand beyond the arc, rendering himself as the no-need-to-guard weak link in the offense. The offense plays 4 on 5 and we end up shooting a jumper because there is no low post threat since Horford is already surrounded. Thanks a lot Josh! Please take your talents to the low post for a change!

lewis

April 23rd, 2011
11:01 am

where are all the Hinrich haters?
where is Teague?

lol.
We’d be 0-3 with Bibby.

It was not a bad pick

April 23rd, 2011
11:04 am

@Jeje

Marvin is 20x better than Damien..i thought Marvin was solid last night on the boards and made a couple of nice passes and steals…I can’t wait until the Hawks free him..He should start over Josh easily..

Sleepy

April 23rd, 2011
11:07 am

JeJe – Why wont jamal hit the fadeaway threes against the Bos,Chi or Mia ? People were saying the same thing about Orlando.

Mia- go read the Heat boards when we play them Jamal is a well known heat killer lol . The guy dropped 50 on Dwade at one point making I think 15 shots in a row or something like that.

Bos- again his exploits in a Hawk uni against Bos and Ray Allen are well chronicled . When you are on the court with Bibby and Joe johnson and they take Allen off you and put Rondo on you .Youve moved past the point of possible being able to do dame against them to be a serious threat.

But those guys are much further down the road

As or the Bulls both Kirk and Jamal will be wired for that one and so will Al . Can you imagine Kirk and Jamal beating the Bulls best team since Jordan left with there new golden boy in Rose and getting into the ECF ? I wouldnt have it any other way .

The playoffs are the time where execution reigns but also where the team that has the most guys who dont need everything to go just right to score baskets are even more important

93 – 88-84 are the point totals for the magic this series . They average 99 ppg in the regular season.

Ill take us grinding it out on defense and riding the jumpshots against inferior perimeter defenders in this series .

You them make adjustments for the next one as thats whats the playoffs are all about

doc

April 23rd, 2011
11:08 am

funny thought, i wonder where “fear the deer” is this year? heh heh

Rev in Tampa

April 23rd, 2011
11:14 am

It was not a bad pick,

I can’t argue with you. Marvin was two points and two rebounds better than Wilkens last night.

But Wilkens had one thing that Marvin didn’t have – a dnp-cd.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 23rd, 2011
11:16 am

Teague Time!

I’ll say this about Teague, he is a shoot first guard. We already got three of those ahead of him and that does not bode well for his chances.

If Teague wants to be like Rondo? He needs to get every one involved first and foremost! Run like a deer and get easy shots for his running wings and center. Rondo had 20 dimes and is a great, strong finisher at the rim – Teague is not that nor a true PG.

Also, blazing speed can kill you, if you can’t change gears and hesitate to go, cross-over and dip too. Teague has terrible handles, turns it over in traffic and does not pass well. He has no PG vision (see Nash, Rondo, Rodman). He does not see the play before it happens and he does not see the game in slow motion, like the ZONE players do who can get into a zONE. The Zone is preserved for the HOFers in Bball, Football, Hockey – basically, all sports.

IDK if Teague can be special, or if he has that IT-FACTOR within him.

That is a Gift and a Blessing. IDK if he is blessed like that.
I doubt it. I hope I’m wrong, if not? We need to find that PG and quick!
It’s been 17 years already, that would catapult the Hawks to super elite status and solve a ton of offensive issues for the next 10 years!

Find a way to get CP3 or Deron. Right our Wrongs!

Thanks a lot – Billy Knight! Thanks a helluva lot! Punk!

Section 303

April 23rd, 2011
11:22 am

Gotta say Teague did nothing to impress last night. Someone forgot to tell Jamieer Nelson how good of a defender Teague is. In Teague’s short time on the floor, Nelson totally shook him twice.

I go back-and-forth on my take on Teague. Last night made me think that my initial take was the correct one: He’s really not that good. Doubting we see him on the floor again, excepting any crazy injuries or foul trouble.

leo

April 23rd, 2011
11:27 am

It was good team win. Dwight played a dirty game. For all the Marvin Haters. He had 3 consecutive rebounds in traffic and two assist to help win that game. Say what you want, but he was very helpful. ZaZa should not be suspended. If he is Dwight Howard should be also. He actual punched ZaZa in the face.

Rev in Tampa

April 23rd, 2011
11:32 am

Section 303,

I did not see Jameer shake Teague. I saw Teague playing tenatively, not knowing whether to give help defense or stay on the perimeter with Jameer. He split the difference and covered neither. He also hesitated on that offensive rebound before he shot. And on offense he stood around and watched Jamal. He was not the Teague that we have all witnessed since the trade deadlline.

no justice

April 23rd, 2011
11:33 am

Hey! cp3, d. williaws, rudy gay will not be on our bench this year. They belong to other teams, so get behind our present players. We all know their short comings and inconsistences. Please stay focus on the present. How do you expect your team to stay focus if you can’t

Rev in Tampa

April 23rd, 2011
11:34 am

leo,

Marvin could not have had 3 consecutive rebounds since he only had a total of 2.

Happy Hawks Fan

April 23rd, 2011
11:34 am

Great win, but the Hawks need to improve their decision making. LD told them multiple times to stop settling for jump shots, but yet they continued to shoot from the outside. Josh Smith is a head case. for the life of me I can’t figure out why after all these years he still can’t figure out to stop shooting jump shots. PLEASE let the Hawks keep Crawford.

Hoops

April 23rd, 2011
11:38 am

drmaryb,

Hinrich knows how to win. He will not pass Josh the ball on the three point line. I LOVE IT!!! Finally we have a leader! Zaza was huge last night. He brings a toughness that we have to have to win in the playoffs! A win Sunday would be HUGE!!! Go Hawks!!!

prison mike

April 23rd, 2011
11:44 am

JS deserves criticism for his second half decisions, no doubt. But 15 and 10 exclusively at sf while holding down turk and keeping an eye on dwight counts for something.

Teague hasn’t played in 9 days and only got 1:43 minutes in. You are suppose to be ready at all times but drew is playing duck, duck, goose with him.

KevinM

April 23rd, 2011
11:46 am

DMB, good stuff as always….and I am in the same camp with you about Marvin, especially how much he costs this team. But I will say, when he contributed in the 2nd half, it helped with the flow of the game.

You saw Josh just kill any momentum in the 2nd half and got benched not once, but twice! If that doesn’t give you a hint, then Josh isn’t learning anymore. He flat out almost killed this win last night in the 2nd half.

Now for these 2, you get rid of one, you keep the other. Pick your poison and I know Josh contributes more, but Josh at the 3? Man, its ugly outside of 15 feet.

I was in Section 312 last night, and I gotta say, if you can get to Philips for this series, you must! That was a great battle last night.

And, if the ASG doesn’t see the value in JC1, then look stupid once again and let him go. It would not surprise me in the least. With the exception of Joe, no one can throw a dagger like JC1. And we need 2 late game threats, minimum!

Hoops

April 23rd, 2011
11:46 am

Rick Sund,

Watch your team. Look at the players that are game changers. We must keep these players IMHO:

1. Joe
2. Crawford
3. Hinrich
4. Horford
5. Zaza

Everybody else should be used to improve the team. I would like to see a trade for a high draft pick so we could draft the guard from UConn.

KevinM

April 23rd, 2011
11:47 am

And the more you see CP3 and the class he exudes and his production, the ASG should be ashamed of themselves by going with the ’sure’ thing.

Even at 16M/year, CP3 is a perfect fit to this team.

The Truth

April 23rd, 2011
11:52 am

NBA Rules & Regulations

“A flagrant foul 1 is committed when a player makes unnecessary contact with an opponent. A flagrant foul 2 is more serious and occurs when the contact is excessive and unsportsmanlike. This type of foul warrants immediate ejection, a possible suspension and a fine not more than $35,000″

Read more: NBA Rules & Regulations | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_4777628_nba-rules-regulations.html#ixzz1KMJSITlB

Drmaryb – “Dwight deserves a one game suspension as well for his instigator antics!”

Agreed Since Dwight started it, Stern should end it with Dwight included in the mixes especially since his contact on Zaza was around the head and neck area. According to this rules, they should upgrade his technical to a “flagrant foul 2″ and take the appropriate action.

Kudus to the Hawks on a gutsy win; LD in particular for making better coaching decisions down the stretch like momentarily setting Josh and Jamal in the 4th when both were slumping showing the love fest with their jumpers. Finally, he shows some balls.

Though I’m not a big fan of Brent Berry as he is definitely a Hawks Hater, he did make an observation that is worth noting. He noted that if Josh is going to be camped out on the perimeter as a passing outlet during a trap or double-team, he should be on the “weak-side” instead of on the “strong-side” since he is not our best perimeter shooter. The “strong-side” should be reserve for our Alpha/Beta shooters. On the weak-side, Josh would be in a better position to do what he does best, making cuts to the basket and using his athleticism.

KevinM

April 23rd, 2011
11:52 am

MC, let us know about Collins and see if he is able to go for Game 4. He was taking a beating last night….I am sure he has an imprint or 2 to prove it.

darrell starks

April 23rd, 2011
11:53 am

Great game last night.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Section 303

April 23rd, 2011
11:53 am

prison mike, it’s called being a professional. Guys have to be ready when/if they’re called upon. Teague’s not the only player in the league who gets random spot minutes. Stop making excuses for him, If he wants to play, he has to make things happen when his number is called. Otherwise, he won’t have chances to get on the floor.

KevinM

April 23rd, 2011
11:54 am

Having Josh or Marvin ‘camped-out’ is just wrong and dumb. Any of us have seen and don’t need stats to prove this fact.

Section 303

April 23rd, 2011
11:57 am

Rev in Tampa, happened twice. Right in front of me both times. First time, Nelson faked right, but turned left and Teague was standing in his wake. Second time, same play, but Nelson went the opposite directions. Teague was not able to stay with him.

Sorry, we all want Teague to do well. But, no one is going to sit around in a playoff series and wait for a guy to magically “get it”. He is either capable of playing or he’s not. And, if the answer is “he’s not”, he’s not playing. Not that hard.

darrell starks

April 23rd, 2011
11:59 am

Josh smith did you smoke weed last night bro get your head in the game and stop loping, this the playoffs josh get your a$$ in the post and stop jogging up and down the court, man he look like he didn’t want 2 be there last night, great decision by taking josh out of the game LD.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Barton

April 23rd, 2011
12:03 pm

JeJe – in Marvin’s defense he came in the second half and grabbed 3 or 4 key rebounds when the hawks were battling back to shake off the Magic’s 3rd quarter run

Lp

April 23rd, 2011
12:03 pm

yeah, great game, got to enjoy it in the lower 100’s the fans around were in the game which made it even better, joe got them the first half jamal finished them. good game.

O'Brien

April 23rd, 2011
12:04 pm

Section 303,

Didn’t jameer make Kirk look really bad in one of the regular season games? So are we really going to give teague, our second year player, who has not played in a week, a hard time because he looked lost in 2 minutes of PT?

He needs repitition. He Will improve. Don’t give up on the Teague Party Movement as yet.

Sleepy

April 23rd, 2011
12:04 pm

Section 303 you are exactly right . I said this during the game yesterday that Teague JOB is to be ready . HES A RESERVE !! If he wants to make it in the NBA then he needs to be ready to play whenever his number is called because until he establishes himself every single game is a audition for more time .

prison mike

April 23rd, 2011
12:06 pm

Even Jon Barry said if you insist on running that iso set play, have either al or hinrich at deep elbow. Josh is actually a decent shooter on the wing.

That long distance elbow shot is the hardest shot to make and horford made it at a crucial time at the 0:46 mark.
I’m convinced drew drew up these iso plays as an assistant and is too stubborn on changing things.

Rev in Tampa

April 23rd, 2011
12:06 pm

Section 303, I stand corrected.

darrell starks

April 23rd, 2011
12:07 pm

The hawks where very lucky last night again, to many jumshots not enough ball movement, like i said the hawks will not win this series unless teague starte, but so far i have been wrong, hinrich have played okay so far, but this is why teague should starte because you have the balance the team out everybody want 2 shoot jumpshots, collins and teague make this team dangerous if coach LD learn how 2 use them.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

April 23rd, 2011
12:10 pm

Barton im sorry but marvin sucks.
GO HAWKS!!!!!