Magic at Atlanta Hawks Game 3: Magic’s 3-point threats thwarted

Ryan Anderson had some telling comments the other day regarding Orlando’s shooting struggles in Games 1 and 2. As reported by Josh Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel Anderson said:

“They know how to guard us,” Anderson said. “They have a great game plan coming into these games. They’re trying to eliminate aspects of our offense that we’re really used to going through. We’re not getting as many open shots. We’re not getting as many 3s. So we just need to continue to work on the glass.”

It sounds like the Magic has made a focused effort to get offensive rebounds because they realize they need all of of the possessions they can get. Atlanta, using the Dwight Defense, has managed to eliminate what’s normally the second-most efficient part of Orlando’s offense.

The Magic have launched 45 3-point attempts in the two games and made just 11. For the season they averaged 25.6 attempts and 9.4 makes overall and 21 attempts and 4.8 makes against the Hawks, both lows vs. any opponent.

I fired up the Synergy Sports Technology machine to look at each of Orlando’s 45 3-point attempts in the series to see where the needle points on the “missing open shots vs. not getting many open shots” scale.

The verdict: The Magic haven’t gotten many clean looks but they got more in Game 2 than Game 1. By my subjective count, in Game 1 Orlando players got nine good looks on 3-point attempts (with two of those in garbage time) and made three. In Game 2 they got 13 clean looks on 3-point attempts and made four (J.J. actually closed out pretty strong on that that J-Rich dagger). Those totals don’t count two long heaves at the buzzer by the Magic.

How did the Magic get those clean looks? A breakdown:

Game 1

  • Turkoglu missed after Josh failed to get around a screen.
  • Anderson missed on a secondary fast break.
  • Turkoglu missed after Etan switched off to hm.
  • Arenas made a 3 after Jamal doubled Dwight (that’s the one).
  • J-Rich missed as Jamal watched.
  • Jameer made a 3 after Jamal spun around a screen.
  • Jameer made a 3 as Jamal closed weakly.
  • Jameer missed in garbage time 3 after Dwight crumpled Hinrich with a screen.
  • Turkoglu missed a 3 that the Hawks pretty much let him shoot in garbage time.

Game 2

  • Turkoglu missed a transition 3 set up by Jameer.
  • Jameer missed a spot-up 3 after Jamal closed weakly in a scramble after an off offensive rebound.
  • J-Rich made a quick-release 3 after a weak close-out by J.J.
  • J-Rich missed a spot-up 3 off a Dwight post up after Hinrch and Smoove appeared to mix up the coverage.
  • Redick missed a spot-up 3 after a weak close out by Smoove.
  • Bass missed a 3 on a secondary break.
  • Turkoglu missed a 3 off a Dwight screen after both Josh and Zaza went with Dwight.
  • Redick missed a long 3 as Jamal watched.
  • Turkoglu made a 3 as Joe made a half-hearted effort to get over a screen.
  • Anderson made a spot-up 3 on secondary break after Zaza made a good effort on a close out but got there late.
  • Anderson missed a spot-up 3 after a scramble caused by Jameer’s dribble penetration against Jamal.
  • Anderson made a 3 after Marvin bit on a pass fake.
  • Anderson missed a spot-up 3 after Al and J.J. switched and J.J. was late on the close.

Five thoughts after looking at those plays:

1. The Magic recognize that Jamal isn’t fighting over screens, providing much resistance against dribble penetration or keeping track of his man when they rebound misses. They are looking to exploit all of those weaknesses to set up 3-point shots.

2. All of the other Atlanta perimeter players have been generally sound in their efforts to limit 3s.

3. Hinrich’s awareness and ability to cover a lot of ground really helps Atlanta’s cause–there were a handful of 3-point attempts where he helped off his man and still was able to recover and challenge kick-out 3s.

3. Stan Van Gundy’s quip that “I don’t really have a strategy for getting guys to shoot the ball well” applied more in Game 2 than Game 1 and is relevant to Turkoglu most of all. Closer to the truth is that Van Gundy doesn’t really have a strategy to get guys clean looks against the Dwight Defense.

4. Atlanta’s length bothers Orlando’s shooters so late close-outs or even the threat of them tend to make the Magic rush their 3-point attempts.

5. The Magic have gotten exactly one clean look off a 3-pointer from a Dwight post-up.

Notes

  • L.D. on Dwight the Ironman: “He’s a specimen. He’s got the potential to play at that level for 48 minutes. I hope he doesn’t. “
  • L.D. on J.J.: “I expect him to be a little bit more aggressive. His decision-making was not as good in Game 2.”
  • L.D. on the remarkable Twin effect vs. Orlando: “He’s a solid defender. He knows how to play his position. He knows how to defend the post. Defending Dwight is not an easy job.”
  • Twin drew a couple charges in Games 1 and 2 against guys other than Dwight. That seemed a bit risky to me since a foul for Twin against anyone else seems like a waste. L.D., though, said he likes it: “That’s how he plays. He’s about winning basketball. He doesn’t care who the player is he is going to step up and make the play. I wish we could get more play like that out of everybody. That’s just who he is.”
  • Twin on Van Gundy and Dwight’s reaction to his comments about getting physical with Dwight: “I know this is not their first playoff series. This is not the first time they’ve heard someone say they need to be physical guarding Dwight Howard.”
  • Pape Sy’s cousin, Almamy Soumah, is in town from France. He’s a journalist for the French Web site basketsession.com. He’s also 6-foot-6 and a cool dude.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks basketball

502 comments Add your comment

tremaine

April 22nd, 2011
9:46 pm

ceeCee

April 22nd, 2011
9:46 pm

I LUV JOSH>>I SWEAR I DO>>>BUT HE HAS NO ONE ON ONE DEFENSE!!!!!! He barely guard a power forward how in the hell do u expect for him to guard a small forward! NO FEET MOVEMENT!!!

He has got to do better…Turk is looking all world against him!

Andrew

April 22nd, 2011
9:46 pm

No!!!! What is going on now!? Stop with the ball hogging!

Ole Hawks Fan

April 22nd, 2011
9:47 pm

WTF Is going on on offense with the hawks??? ISO Offense……………..is Woody on the sideline coaching?

J.J.M.

April 22nd, 2011
9:47 pm

look at the hawks players faces they look worried

Wabe

April 22nd, 2011
9:47 pm

this is why the hawks + the eastern conference finals shouldn’t ever be mentioned in the same sentence.

bigdave

April 22nd, 2011
9:47 pm

Josh not involved enough on the offensive end..

Booo!

April 22nd, 2011
9:48 pm

Jon Berry always pisses me off. He’s such a freaking hater that I had to trun and listen to ‘nique and Bob

Rev in Tampa

April 22nd, 2011
9:48 pm

Wow. The ugly hawks just showed up.

Ole Hawks Fan

April 22nd, 2011
9:48 pm

Tell it like it is Jon Barry………………..all jump shooting for the Hawks. Going 4 mintes without a field goal!

bigdave

April 22nd, 2011
9:49 pm

the 3 they dont get and we do..

Wabe

April 22nd, 2011
9:49 pm

where’s all of the “aggression” LD preached about?
trying to get to the line?

jumper after jumper after jumper

can’t stand this bullstuff

Rev in Tampa

April 22nd, 2011
9:50 pm

if reddick had made that rattle out 3 the game would have been over. Good time for a timeout. I hope LD throws gatorade in their face in the huddle to wake them up.

Wabe

April 22nd, 2011
9:50 pm

bigdave

April 22nd, 2011
9:47 pm
“Josh not involved enough on the offensive end..”

josh has had his share of looks. they’re just jumpers though. he needs to get back in the post and bang.

superiorblogman

April 22nd, 2011
9:50 pm

Just horrible, Al choking on jumpers, Josh playing like a big dummy on offense, Kirk dribbling the ball too much. Now Jamal in the game 2 go 1 on 1 time after time. This is going to end bad.

bigdave

April 22nd, 2011
9:51 pm

i mean, sure we’re stinking it up but, i think Orlando has answered the bell defensively.. easy to do when you can send your man to Dwight..

Andrew

April 22nd, 2011
9:52 pm

This has got to be the most schizophrenic team in the league. It’s unbelievable how you can just get two totally different styles out of the same team on the same night. The look great in the first half and then awful to start the second half. It’s really strange.

Wabe

April 22nd, 2011
9:52 pm

hey barry…the hawks cut you.

you madd? you mad! you mad?? you mad!

bigdave

April 22nd, 2011
9:52 pm

Wabe..

ive seen him set up on the blocks on the left block even.. and not get the ball..
most recently resulting in an Al jumper ..

J.J.M.

April 22nd, 2011
9:52 pm

didnt horford start the game off bumping and driving the ball…

bigdave

April 22nd, 2011
9:52 pm

i know you dont think i was calling for more jumpers from him..lol

he’s been tough to handle on the blocks..

Teddy

April 22nd, 2011
9:53 pm

Look no further than tonight’s game to see how rigged the NBA is. I understand cold spurts, but how do you go from as good as the Hawks looked earlier in the game to just completely not even looking like a professional team?

Since ATL is at home and Stern wants this to be a 7 gamer, he’ll probably have the Hawks pull this one out in dramatic fashion in the 4th.

If they lose, he’ll have the Hawks win the next to.

J.J.M.

April 22nd, 2011
9:53 pm

bad defense by josh

bigdave

April 22nd, 2011
9:54 pm

drmaryb (*_-)

April 22nd, 2011
9:54 pm

Sautee!

Yeah! Chris Mullin. Sautee, that man had game – didn’t he?
I loved his skills, back in the day! Popeye Jones, Pig Miller,
Cliff Robinson, Detleff Shrempf, Reggie Miller, Anthony Mason,
Xavier McDaniels, Vin Baker, Vinnie Johnson, AC Green –
the WOW era!

Rev in Tampa

April 22nd, 2011
9:54 pm

it really does not look like the magic are playing all that differently. It really looks as if the hawks are beating themselves. it looks like they were happy with their 9 point lead and decided to coast for a little bit since the magic were not hitting their shots to begin the 2nd half, but they went to sleep and haven’t woke up.

bigdave

April 22nd, 2011
9:54 pm

Joe make the easy pass!

J.J.M.

April 22nd, 2011
9:54 pm

howard can double joe because zaza has no offense

Rev in Tampa

April 22nd, 2011
9:55 pm

That’s what we need to give us energy – Marvin. SMH

Erofanip

April 22nd, 2011
9:55 pm

This is the sorriest most pathetic playoff home crowd I ever seen. The hawks have led basically the whole game, but you’d think the crowd was at a funeral.

Wabe

April 22nd, 2011
9:56 pm

JJ needs to f’n gooooooooo when he sees Reddick at him. Doesn’t need to be sitting there with the fancy dribbles. Go while the defense isn’t set.

bigdave

April 22nd, 2011
9:57 pm

crowd just as nervous as the blog frankly..

Ole Hawks Fan

April 22nd, 2011
9:57 pm

Bad Basketball in this quarter by the Hawks. No Ball Movement! LD telling the team doin timeout DON’T SETTLE FOR JUMP SHOTS! These guys don’t LISTEN TO LD!

drmaryb (*_-)

April 22nd, 2011
9:57 pm

Swing the Rock from side to side! Go inside!

Wabe

April 22nd, 2011
9:57 pm

Erofanip

April 22nd, 2011
9:55 pm
“This is the sorriest most pathetic playoff home crowd I ever seen. The hawks have led basically the whole game, but you’d think the crowd was at a funeral.”

What do you expect from a fanbase that gets the usual schizophrenic bball the Hawks have given us for years?

bigdave

April 22nd, 2011
9:57 pm

Wabe

April 22nd, 2011
9:58 pm

you see what crawford just did?

that’s what these f’n hawks need to do.

why do they walk the ball up the court and get caught up in the dribble bullstuff?

jj needs to take notes. do what jamal just did. go while the defense is still trying to settle.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 22nd, 2011
9:58 pm

VH1!

Jamal Take Over!

Rev in Tampa

April 22nd, 2011
9:58 pm

Wow. Hawks with a 4 point lead after that debacle.

J.J.M.

April 22nd, 2011
9:58 pm

damn josh…

bigdave

April 22nd, 2011
9:59 pm

good close to quarter..

hope Joe and Josh have enough to take us home..

terrell

April 22nd, 2011
9:59 pm

No way I watch the 4th qtr. These guys will give you a heart attack.

Ole Hawks Fan

April 22nd, 2011
9:59 pm

Josh let Jameer Nelson take the ball and got a good look at a three with the clock expiring, WTF!

superiorblogman

April 22nd, 2011
10:01 pm

Teague got taken out the game for letting Jameer get in the lane and it’s funny that Jameer was in the lane all 3rd quarter on Joe, Jamal, and Kirk he was kicking out to open shooters. If that continues this is a lose. Furthermore, Drew needs to make his rules for Teague apply to everyone else. Drew is not the type of man who needs to be running anything

J.J.M.

April 22nd, 2011
10:01 pm

we need some good d from kirk and some great offense from horford

Andrew

April 22nd, 2011
10:01 pm

I feel like we are extremely fortunate to have the lead right now. I just hope that the Hawks have woken up by now. That third quarter was terrible, and the worst part is that it wasn’t even just because of the magic. The Hawks were beating themselves with stupid decisions and bad shots. Get it together, guys!

Booo!

April 22nd, 2011
10:01 pm

Wabe

April 22nd, 2011
9:52 pm
hey barry…the hawks cut you.

you madd? you mad! you mad?? you mad!

—————-

LMBO!!!

*Cam’ron voice* “You Maaad!, you Maaad! ”

Yes he is!

Najeh Davenpoop

April 22nd, 2011
10:02 pm

Hawks are really lucky to be up 4 right now.

The crowd has not been bad, but there wasn’t much to cheer about in that 3rd quarter.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 22nd, 2011
10:02 pm

4TH QRTR!

Share the Ball!
Swing IT!
Stay Inside!
Swarm on D!

Make us Proud!

We have controlled the entire game, even let them tie, but they never lead. Play ZAZA! Jamal creating … Joe Do You!

Kill ‘Em! No Turns! Rebound Josh, feed Al! Come on Al!
Come Alive Al!

Wabe

April 22nd, 2011
10:02 pm

LD sounding like Woody with the energy bullstuff.