Magic at Atlanta Hawks Game 3: Magic’s 3-point threats thwarted
Ryan Anderson had some telling comments the other day regarding Orlando’s shooting struggles in Games 1 and 2. As reported by Josh Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel Anderson said:
“They know how to guard us,” Anderson said. “They have a great game plan coming into these games. They’re trying to eliminate aspects of our offense that we’re really used to going through. We’re not getting as many open shots. We’re not getting as many 3s. So we just need to continue to work on the glass.”
It sounds like the Magic has made a focused effort to get offensive rebounds because they realize they need all of of the possessions they can get. Atlanta, using the Dwight Defense, has managed to eliminate what’s normally the second-most efficient part of Orlando’s offense.
The Magic have launched 45 3-point attempts in the two games and made just 11. For the season they averaged 25.6 attempts and 9.4 makes overall and 21 attempts and 4.8 makes against the Hawks, both lows vs. any opponent.
I fired up the Synergy Sports Technology machine to look at each of Orlando’s 45 3-point attempts in the series to see where the needle points on the “missing open shots vs. not getting many open shots” scale.
The verdict: The Magic haven’t gotten many clean looks but they got more in Game 2 than Game 1. By my subjective count, in Game 1 Orlando players got nine good looks on 3-point attempts (with two of those in garbage time) and made three. In Game 2 they got 13 clean looks on 3-point attempts and made four (J.J. actually closed out pretty strong on that that J-Rich dagger). Those totals don’t count two long heaves at the buzzer by the Magic.
How did the Magic get those clean looks? A breakdown:
Game 1
- Turkoglu missed after Josh failed to get around a screen.
- Anderson missed on a secondary fast break.
- Turkoglu missed after Etan switched off to hm.
- Arenas made a 3 after Jamal doubled Dwight (that’s the one).
- J-Rich missed as Jamal watched.
- Jameer made a 3 after Jamal spun around a screen.
- Jameer made a 3 as Jamal closed weakly.
- Jameer missed in garbage time 3 after Dwight crumpled Hinrich with a screen.
- Turkoglu missed a 3 that the Hawks pretty much let him shoot in garbage time.
Game 2
- Turkoglu missed a transition 3 set up by Jameer.
- Jameer missed a spot-up 3 after Jamal closed weakly in a scramble after an off offensive rebound.
- J-Rich made a quick-release 3 after a weak close-out by J.J.
- J-Rich missed a spot-up 3 off a Dwight post up after Hinrch and Smoove appeared to mix up the coverage.
- Redick missed a spot-up 3 after a weak close out by Smoove.
- Bass missed a 3 on a secondary break.
- Turkoglu missed a 3 off a Dwight screen after both Josh and Zaza went with Dwight.
- Redick missed a long 3 as Jamal watched.
- Turkoglu made a 3 as Joe made a half-hearted effort to get over a screen.
- Anderson made a spot-up 3 on secondary break after Zaza made a good effort on a close out but got there late.
- Anderson missed a spot-up 3 after a scramble caused by Jameer’s dribble penetration against Jamal.
- Anderson made a 3 after Marvin bit on a pass fake.
- Anderson missed a spot-up 3 after Al and J.J. switched and J.J. was late on the close.
Five thoughts after looking at those plays:
1. The Magic recognize that Jamal isn’t fighting over screens, providing much resistance against dribble penetration or keeping track of his man when they rebound misses. They are looking to exploit all of those weaknesses to set up 3-point shots.
2. All of the other Atlanta perimeter players have been generally sound in their efforts to limit 3s.
3. Hinrich’s awareness and ability to cover a lot of ground really helps Atlanta’s cause–there were a handful of 3-point attempts where he helped off his man and still was able to recover and challenge kick-out 3s.
3. Stan Van Gundy’s quip that “I don’t really have a strategy for getting guys to shoot the ball well” applied more in Game 2 than Game 1 and is relevant to Turkoglu most of all. Closer to the truth is that Van Gundy doesn’t really have a strategy to get guys clean looks against the Dwight Defense.
4. Atlanta’s length bothers Orlando’s shooters so late close-outs or even the threat of them tend to make the Magic rush their 3-point attempts.
5. The Magic have gotten exactly one clean look off a 3-pointer from a Dwight post-up.
Notes
- L.D. on Dwight the Ironman: “He’s a specimen. He’s got the potential to play at that level for 48 minutes. I hope he doesn’t. “
- L.D. on J.J.: “I expect him to be a little bit more aggressive. His decision-making was not as good in Game 2.”
- L.D. on the remarkable Twin effect vs. Orlando: “He’s a solid defender. He knows how to play his position. He knows how to defend the post. Defending Dwight is not an easy job.”
- Twin drew a couple charges in Games 1 and 2 against guys other than Dwight. That seemed a bit risky to me since a foul for Twin against anyone else seems like a waste. L.D., though, said he likes it: “That’s how he plays. He’s about winning basketball. He doesn’t care who the player is he is going to step up and make the play. I wish we could get more play like that out of everybody. That’s just who he is.”
- Twin on Van Gundy and Dwight’s reaction to his comments about getting physical with Dwight: “I know this is not their first playoff series. This is not the first time they’ve heard someone say they need to be physical guarding Dwight Howard.”
- Pape Sy’s cousin, Almamy Soumah, is in town from France. He’s a journalist for the French Web site basketsession.com. He’s also 6-foot-6 and a cool dude.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks basketball
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502 comments Add your comment
Grandad
April 23rd, 2011
1:20 am
Has anybody else noticed;
Joe looks as if he’s lost a alot of weight?
Najeh Davenpoop
April 23rd, 2011
1:23 am
Co-sign JeJe.
Good win, but in the big picture, this series is still up for grabs. An Orlando win in Game 4 — which becomes a lot more likely if Collins is injured and Zaza is suspended — instantly swings things back in their favor.
If the Hawks win Game 4, then they can say the Magic have their backs up against the wall. Even then, this team’s track record doesn’t invite much benefit of the doubt.
Mike W
April 23rd, 2011
1:36 am
lol good eye najeh
MsDee
April 23rd, 2011
1:37 am
What are ‘gum drop buttons’?
Jae Evolution
April 23rd, 2011
1:40 am
Najeh let’s not forget that if Zaza is suspended J-Rich will definitely be suspended, and after Dwight and Jameer he is possibly the biggest thorn in our side and their biggest shotmaker. With him out JJ will FEAST on the low block with a combination of Arenas/Reddick guarding him and they lose a bit of size with Richardson out.
drmaryb (*_-)
April 23rd, 2011
2:18 am
I LOVE MY GRAND-DADDY!
He’s The Greatest.
Ra'mon
April 23rd, 2011
2:20 am
Am I the only one who never wants to hear Jon Barry call a game for the rest of my life? He is so one sided that its crazy. He was constantly talking about the Hawks not being able to score, but they were winning the entire time. If the Hawks can’t score but still winning, doesn’t that mean the Hawks are playing SHUT DOWN defense? The Hawks defense has the Orlando Magic averaging less than 90 points a game. But Barry didn’t say anything about that. Also for majority of the 3rd quarter, the Magic were running a variation of a zone defense, yet he’s saying attack the basket. Uh, duh, the purpose of zone is to prevent any attacking and penetrating.
Also, for anyone who said Josh almost cost the game, yea that one jumper was dumb. But that was one play. Take away his 10 rebounds, and what do you have?
drmaryb (*_-)
April 23rd, 2011
2:27 am
It’s All About The Love!
I Love Jamal!
I Love ZaZa!
I Love Joe!
I Love Josh!
I Love Al!
I Love Kirk!
I Love Coach Drew!
I Love Marvin!
I Love Teague!
I Love Jason!
I Love Damien!
I Love Etan! May his G-Mother RIP!
I Love Powell!
I Love Pape Sy!
I Love Magnum!
I Love Hilton!
I Love Van Exel!
I Love Tyrone!
I Love Lester!
I Love Bender!
I Love Sund!
I Love ASKG! (Ok, waite a minute)
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I Love WINNING!
Mike W
April 23rd, 2011
2:38 am
gum drop buttons is a line i got off of sherk the movie.(the gingerbread man) MsDee
drmaryb (*_-)
April 23rd, 2011
2:41 am
Best Posted Question of The Day!
“Take away his 10 rebounds, and what do you have?”. -Ra’mon-
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Answer: 15 points and a LOSS!
Not only do we lose this game with out Josh, our only Double-Double, but Josh is extremely important to this team. He is nearly UNTOUCHABLE! He pestered the hell out of Dwight on the help defense. Absolutely fantastic game from Josh! These people are idiots.
This was a TOTAL Team WIN – TOTALLY! Drew coached his AZZ off!
He did not duplicate the mistakes of Game 1 – The ENTIRE coaching staff was phenomenal tonight. From Tyrone, to Nick, to Bender to Connor to Sund to Gearon, JR …. To a Man!
The whole Fan Club – hell! Give All yourselves a Game Ball!
I haven’t been this excited since Dominque had a Shoot Out with Larry Bird and then Michael Jordan! The best play offs in 25 years people! These new kids, don’t really know how long it has been for this CITY! To WIN like this! Yall better recognize! The Magic do.
This makes last year Round 2 worth while!
Thank You Mr. Johnson for coming here to make us smile again, and Thank You for re-signing! You were spectacular tonight!
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Love it – or Hate it! I really don’t care if the Fans show up or not, it’s all about those guys in that locker room.
drmaryb (*_-)
April 23rd, 2011
2:49 am
* He did not duplicate the mistakes of Game – 2.
(Drew let them play through the fouls)
drmaryb (*_-)
April 23rd, 2011
2:51 am
Trust Me!
A swagger-dagger hurts a whole lot more than a 25 pt blow-out.
I just do!
Jae Evolution
April 23rd, 2011
3:01 am
“Swagger-dagger” That’s catchy. Lol.
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
April 23rd, 2011
3:37 am
the Hawks have not played their best collective for an entire games since game 1 and we either won or were in it to win at the end – Magic should be really shook right now.
EmirS.
April 23rd, 2011
3:53 am
I just seen the highlights on NBA.com. Jason Richardson had no right to come over and do anything. Not only was there no altercation between Zaza and Dwight, but there was nothing to suggest that anything would happen.
And yea…funny how everyone keeps trying to be the bully on the Hawks. I’m glad we have Zaza and Collins. Just for that reason. There is no way in hell your gonna come onto OUR floor and try to disrespect OUR team on OUR own damn floor infront of OUR crowd. Gameball to Zaza for that. I did’nt even get a chance to watch the game. But give that ball to Zaza. I wish Zaza and Dwight got into it. I wish both got suspended. Zaza would be the MVP of game 4…and not even be there. LOL!
@ Zaza is a goon.
Hell Yea! Them streets in Republic of Georgia shaped Zaza Up.
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
April 23rd, 2011
4:13 am
yessur Emir! Zaza is become our poor man’s Bill Laimbeer! Don’t back down Hawks – not on your home court not ever. If they play with that kind of heart and swag then the Arena would stay packed – last year the Hawks got boo because they lack intensity in the second round each game. Play inspired and the fans will be inspired to support.
drmaryb (*_-)
April 23rd, 2011
4:34 am
* it just Do!
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Jae! What’s up baby? Yeah, I had to give Jamal’s shot a fitting name:
Swagger – Dagger! Swag-Dag … Fo Reel!
I’m done … Satisfied … It’s like when you have great sex, you just want to lie in bed and talk about it … Then, smoke a cigarette …
And, go to sleep.
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G-Nite!
tony
April 23rd, 2011
5:59 am
IT’S TIME SUND! Resign Jamal NOW! You won’t find another elite scorer who’s willing to come off the bench and give the team instant offense. That young man is FEARLESS SIR!
After listening to LD in the huddle last night, I’m now convinced that the players(JJ/JS) aren’t following instructions. If the players aren’t willing to listen to the hc, there’s nothing LD can do but bench their sorry behinds. We have a very good basketball team but certain players are holding them back.
Buddy Grizzard
April 23rd, 2011
7:07 am
After listening to LD in the huddle last night, I’m now convinced that the players(JJ/JS) aren’t following instructions.
Buddy Grizzard
April 23rd, 2011
7:08 am
Didn’t get to watch the game tonight but I read the whole blog to get the game story. Some thoughts:
“I like the wrinkle in the offense that seems to have been added since last game. When Joe passes out of the double team, a pick seems to be coming for the guy who catches the pass. Good wrinkle LD, the first good thing you have done this series.” – superior
Credit where credit is due… I’m with it. Good eye sup.
“LD telling the team doin timeout DON’T SETTLE FOR JUMP SHOTS! These guys don’t LISTEN TO LD!” – Ole Hawks Fan
Let’s not get carried away praising LD. If the Hawks lose this series, it will be because of what happened in game 2. LD has serious credibility issues with his players. Think about his comments about Teague after he lit up Portland. These players know he has different standards and rules for different players. If you want credibility, you have to treat people the same and not be a respector of persons.
“And if we had Bibby still, I think we are 0-3 in this series.” – SteveW
Co-sign. Kirk has had two good games out of three. Imagine Bibby chasing Jameer.
“Zaza is a fake tough guy. J Rich pushed him in his face and he did not do anything. He should have beat J Rich to the floor.” – Superior
Come on dude. Zaza head butted J-Rich in his face and all J-Rich could do was that little sissy slap? And then there were 5 guys between them. Rocky will stand toe to toe. J-Rich no Clubber Lang.
“Does that mean Dwight’s suspended the next game, given his techs during the year?” – niremetal
Techs are reset at the start of the playoffs. A player will be suspended for his 7th technical during the playoffs, and every 2nd tech thereafter.
“Do yall think he will be suspended by Stern?” – drmaryb
The Godfather is not pleased. Zaza and J-Rich both for one game I bet.
“i didnt see what started it, did anyone get a look at the “fight”?”
Zaza checked Howard at the waiste as he drove to the basket, but the swipe at the ball was clean… got a lot of leather. After Zaza knocked the ball out of his hands, Dwight hit Zaza in the jaw on his follow through of flailing his arms to get the foul call.
Zaza didn’t react to Howards hit and was walking away, motioning to the Hawks bench when J-Rich bumped him. Zaza will get suspended for head butting J-Rich even though J-Rich and Howard were both instigators.
“Drew may go down as the Best play off coach in Hawks history if, he takes us to the ECF!” – drmaryb
Co-sign! See doc, I’m not a hater. If Drew learns his lessons and still takes this series, he’s gotta get past Thibs to make ECF. Orlando Magic are a gutted team that can’t match the Hawks’ talent from top to bottom of the roster. Chicago is a complete team with the game’s best coach. I still think CHI is vulnerable because they don’t have as much playoff experience as the Hawks. But if we get past CHI I will sign on for bringing Drew back next year.
“With him out JJ will FEAST on the low block with a combination of Arenas/Reddick guarding him.” – Jae
Good call, hurts the Magic more than it hurts us. We can let Al take a turn guarding Dwight to replace Zaza’s minutes. Magic have no way to replace J-Rich.
csmny63
April 23rd, 2011
7:12 am
The waiting begins – Zaza suspended or not for game 4? He’s Howard’s main antagonist right now and that’s not such a good thing: the league has a very obvious bias towards protecting its marquee names(exhibit a : how the hell does Howard get away with throwing so many elbows??) If Twin doesn’t heal up right quick, we’re going to be in real trouble on Sunday if Z is suspended a game. Closest to the truth is we really need them both…
The Game Has Changed
April 23rd, 2011
7:22 am
Teague is useless at this point. I tried to tell yall. He is not ready for the big time. He is too small to handle Nelson. He immediatley put us in the situation we were in last year when he was on the floor. He needs help defense and the other guys have to come off their man. And for yall who continues to holla fire Drew. Nall fire you
tony
April 23rd, 2011
7:25 am
Let’s not get carried away praising LD. If the Hawks lose this series, it will be because of what happened in game 2.
superiorblogman
April 23rd, 2011
7:42 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AvShWbPJRDdvd.UUr4uQH2G8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_brazilian_prospect_nba_draft_042311
Here is another reason why I did not want the Hawks to give up that 1st rd pick. We could have taken Lucas Nogueira. He is the type of center we will need athletic defensive minded finisher. We need this guy. Sund needs to get back into the 1st round to take him.
superiorblogman
April 23rd, 2011
7:45 am
Well here is the biggest reason I wanted us to keep that 1st round pick. Lucas Nogueira. Sund needs to get back into the 1st round to select this guy.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AvShWbPJRDdvd.UUr4uQH2G8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_brazilian_prospect_nba_draft_042311
Nate ArchiBALL
April 23rd, 2011
8:16 am
“two gum drop buttons” — I’m crying…….. There is nothing like the ATL, Hawks basketball and Philips Arena!!
tony
April 23rd, 2011
8:23 am
Lucas Nogueira
The big knock against Lucas “Bebe” is that he is lazy … Sources around the team claim that he is a little bit difficult to deal with and already has a star’s attitude … Nothing can derail a promising career faster than a kid not willing to put the work in
Double Zero Eight
April 23rd, 2011
8:43 am
Looks like LD was right about continuing to give Jamal
playing time during the end of the season, with the
anticipation his offense would be needed against Orlando.
I am not a fan of LD, and I am a Teague supporter.
If we advance to the next round, Teague’s speed will be needed..
Harpie
April 23rd, 2011
8:47 am
One lucky shot does not all -of -a- sudden make Larry Drew a decent coach. Anything good the Hawks do is IN SPITE of Drew, not because of him. He has proven himself, over and over, to be an IDIOT!
Ken Strickland
April 23rd, 2011
8:50 am
All of us whined and complained about the way our regular season went, especially our won/loss and home record compared to the 2 previous yrs under Woodson. Well, all of a sudden we see why Sund and the ASG hired LDrew, and it was for the same reason they gave Woodson, except he failed.
At this stage of the teams progress and development, they wanted improved playoff performances and results over regular season performainces and results. We can focus on LDrew’s decision to take AHorford out after picking up 2 early 1st qtr fouls and not playing him again in the 1st half all we want.
But you can’t overlook the fact that he’s coached one hell of a series so far. He’s switched strategies and made adjustments in and during each gm, and Orlando doesn’t know what to expect or what to do, other than try to get physical and intimidating. In gm 1 he allowed Dwight to carry the OFF and DEF load and shut everyone else out, with the exception of JNelson in the 2nd half of gm one.
In gm 2, with officiating help, Orlando dominated us on both boards, lived at the FT line, and still struggled to win. In gm 3 he made adjustments that kept them off the boards, kept Dwight in check, and controlled the gm.
Not one, nada, of the changes and adjustments that LDrew has made so far would have even been a consideration by MWoodson. He would have continued his narrow minded approach of trying to stop DHoward with double or triple teams, with no changes or adjustments whatsoever. The Hawks will eventually lose a playoff series, we just don’t know when.
But nobody is going to embarrass this Hawk team in the playoffs, certainly not like last yr. With no draft pick this yr, with Jordan Crawford gone and no one to take Jamal Crawford’s place, I wonder if the team will reconsider resigning Jamal, especially with him having such an impact in the playoffs? THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY WE’D BE IN THE POSITION OF BEING UP 2-1 AGAINST ORLANDO IF MBIBBY WAS STILL HERE.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MsDee
April 23rd, 2011
8:55 am
Bibby doesn’t even make an impact with Miami and they are up 3-0 to Philly.
dap01
April 23rd, 2011
8:56 am
The NBA should look into the way our faces and heads have been consistantly used to foul Dwight’s elbows. The Hawks are goons for their obvious fouls on Dwight. Hail to Dwight. I resent people calling him a cry baby. Dwight has a right to throw his body and initiat all contact.
The NBA is so credible.
Slimjr
April 23rd, 2011
8:58 am
Like JEJE keeps saying nothing is coming easy for this team on offense and thats because they are not being coached up..The players dont trust the coach or themselves.Bigs that cant get layups consistently because they rather settle for jumpshots then bang inside…This is a guard dominated offense and when they are hitting their shots all is good but when they meet up with Chicago or Boston, those looks wont be there so those perimeter shots may stop falling and since there is very little inside presence attacking the rim,its gonna get real ugly…
Orlando is missing Matt Barnes, Vince, Pietrus, and Rashard, and Gortat big time!!!!!!! Matt would harass iso and hold him to under 10 per game….Guess their GM is on the hot seat you think??? If the Hawks could land a David West type player, they could possible contend for a ECF??
myrak43
April 23rd, 2011
9:01 am
before you all rip me a new one, yes I believe JJ still makes too much. but that isn’t his fault. why would anyone turn down more money? but he is most definitely not the worst contract in the NBA. he is highly productive. and if we didn’t have JJ right now we would not be leading the Magic 2-1 in this series. I hope you JJ haters pay attention to how much defensive Orlando throws at JJ every time he touches the ball. then I want you to imagine anyone else on this team getting doubled and or tripled like that. they only person on this team that can handle that much defensive pressure is JJ.
what I am saying is that if we didn’t have JJ all the Magic would have to do is double JC and no one else would be able to score. but with JJ drawing the double teams and still scoring some, JC, and Kirk are either singled covered or open.
If we had one more person that you had to double JJ would look even better and could actually earn his contract.
Slimjr
April 23rd, 2011
9:09 am
lets keep it real???Okay??? The Magic are missing three 6′8″ guys on the perimeter to harass and shut down our guards, plus Lewis at 6′10″ harassing Josh..Point Blank……….That’s why the 3 previous years the Hawks lost 8 of 9 to Orlando…Now they are much shorter with their perimeter defense and that is a major flaw which our guards can now exploit….
Larry LUCKED OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
doc
April 23rd, 2011
9:21 am
najeh thanks for the link on the scuffle as it wasnt a foul, probably better fights in most high school girls rooms than that. it did point out the tech on dwight was well deserved and he is the goon. zaza just made a good play to keep dwight from getting his easy bucket.
anyway great game to be at.
slim man, you got to give it up for one game as al answered bass to take the lead back on a huge clutch shot there in the fourth quarter. at times you got to say it right. take a night off dude and enjoy the win as there is no need for criticism last night for the outcome. you got it in you.
it was a very tough and well earned victory. also LD managed his part pretty well last night as well as the bench when called on. good team win.
Justin
April 23rd, 2011
9:24 am
I agree, let’s not get carried away with praising Drew. We should be up 3-0 right now. This is not a good Orlando team that we’re playing. They’re a shell of the team they were last year and we match up way better with them now than last year.
Having said that, Drew deserves considerable credit for his strategy of playing Dwight straight up and of discovering that Collins could be an effective defender against him. He also deserves credit for being able to draw up plays in time-outs that lead to easy baskets. Not so much in this series, but this season has proved that.
Now for the cricism. His player rotations are sometimes abysmal. In Game 1 he let Jamal get abused by Heinrich in the 3rd quarte to get them back in the game. His rotations in the first half of Game 2 have been called the worst coaching decision of the year by outside observers.
He inadequately prepared Jeff Teague for the playoffs, even though Teague’s shown flashes of absolute brilliance this season. Teague could be a force against Chicago if we advance and has the speed to stay with Rose, but he’s not had pt in forever and won’t be utilized. All these criticisms could also be leveled against Woodson.
Why did the Hawks win so many more games last year then? The Hawks offense was near the top of the league last year and this year it is in the lower tier. That is odd considering that Drew was supposed to be the offensive-minded coach and Woodson the defensive-minded coach. But the playoffs are about match-ups, and Woodson couldn’t solve the Dwight Howard riddle. Drew apparently has in playing him straight-up and clamping down on the shooters.
Justin
April 23rd, 2011
9:25 am
**Sorry, I meant in Game 1, he let Heinrich get abused by Jameer.
Slimjr
April 23rd, 2011
9:26 am
“MagicNoOneFan at 11:05 PM April 22, 2011
This really suck. I thought we got more fight. Now I know why we traded Turk away. Now we know how Nelson can’t defense anyone (too short). This team is a mess. Love the Magic, but this season is over. Bone head after bone head play. Turk of balance shot cost us and Jason getting ejected. Not smart basketball. Now he probably won’t play the next game. Which mean Gil will start next game. 28% 3pts shooting is not going to get it done….”
Glad we are not Magic fans???? LOL
Justin
April 23rd, 2011
9:26 am
**Okay, I’m not drunk, but I am a little tired. Let’s try it one more time. He let Jamal get abused by Jameer.
doc
April 23rd, 2011
9:31 am
slim we arent living in the past, just you are. i wont count you wrong on what you are saying but dont blame the hawks for who they have to play, they just got to play ‘em as they lie, like in golf. btw, they did play and beat those guys early in the year and that may have been during what was it a 9 game losing streak with those same guys out on the court looking like trash? and isnt that when they then went to correct whatever the problem is? those guys you are giving so much cred to forgot how to pay like last year too and showed they couldnt beat the ordinary teams much less the new heat or there wouldnt have been wholesale changes. there was a reason for the change it didnt come out of thin air, the trades that is, as bad as they seem to be now. you are displacing last years memories for the reality of how they played together this year. r lewis disappeared this year after the trade as well as his roid body is beginning to fail him all the way to the bank. so why is he part of your discussion as he would have played any better than turk? dude you are in a cave or the dark ages as you go on and on.
wake up to the new nba of the three amigos 2011.
arenas did give a good cameo on the kiss cam though, making the trade worthwhile for that. heh heh
Slimjr
April 23rd, 2011
9:33 am
Hey doc, “news flash” history is fixing to repeat itself once again….Sit tight dude…..
Melvin
April 23rd, 2011
9:35 am
Why was Dwight not ejected? What the difference between Jason and his slap to Zaza face?
doc
April 23rd, 2011
9:40 am
ken strick my friend very good post there. yup woody would have continued to ake payer substitutions based on the game clock how he did it every game rather than for the situation at hand. as crazy as ld seems he does not have any set pattern to what he did as woody did and what every head coach knew as well as the half awake fans. got to give him cred for that ld that is.
and yes bibby would not survive a series where he had to play more than shoot threes at the arc. we have one very effective but one dimensional player in collins for this series and that is enough and you need defense more than offense in the playoffs anyway as it comes to stops not gets.
great comments ken strick, hope you are doing well there.
doc
April 23rd, 2011
9:43 am
what history is that slim? give me a preview of as the world turns by slim.
it cant be we are going to be swept in four by the magic can it? i thought this wouldnt last six and the hawks were going to be out. my how wrong i was.
Buddy Grizzard
April 23rd, 2011
9:45 am
At this stage of the teams progress and development, they wanted improved playoff performances and results over regular season performances and results. – Ken Strickland
This is absolutely correct. The regular season means nothing. The Hawks can be last year’s Celtics. They have the easiest possible path the ECF with a gutted Orlando team and an inexperienced CHI team standing between them and they don’t have to go through BOS or MIA.
If we make it to the second round, I will start to seriously evaluate Drew’s coaching. Right now the Hawks need to close out this series. If the Hawks lose the series it will all go back to game 2.
doc
April 23rd, 2011
9:46 am
melvin, because the refs need a new contract like the players and are on their knees in front of him. they did show up and give a tech to howard after reviewing the play. the refs were so bad it was sad and how the magic can call zaza a goon and dwight is the one throwing elbows on just about every play? it isnt like he has no control over his body and doesnt know where his arms are.
doc
April 23rd, 2011
9:47 am
the him i refer to is of course stern melvin
drmaryb (*_-)
April 23rd, 2011
10:02 am
New blog uo
O-town Magic
April 23rd, 2011
10:55 pm
Magic will lose (lost) this series because Stan Van Gundy is a total idiot who has no business coaching at the NBA level. Awful offensive philosophy that will never succeed in the playoffs.