Atlanta Hawks: Magic 88, Hawks 82

Orlando–The Magic pounded the Hawks on the boards and outscored them 29-11 from the free-throw line. That’s how they won while shooting 34 percent from the field and committing 16 turnovers.

  • The deficit on the boards is can be chalked up to Dwight beasting and Al playing only 26 minutes because of L.D.’s two-foul rule. The disparity in free throws is a Dwight production, too, because it’s become clear that Twin (and to a lesser extent, Zaza) is the only Hawks big with any hope of preventing him from shooting 100 percent in the post.
  • Despite all of that, the Hawks had a chance to win after I thought they looked beat down and done. They suddenly came alive for a 10-0 run: Smoove’s running hook shot, Al’s baseline drive, a J and floater by Joe floater and Al’s block leading to his dunk.
  • But then Turkoglu scored on a tough driving basket over Al and Al missed a challenged iso jumper. J-Rich shook free for a 3 and Al missed a 3-point try. “I think that towards the end we couldn’t get organized a couple times on the offensive end and forced me to take a couple tough shots that I usually don’t take,” Al said.
  • So that was the end of the rally. The Hawks headed back to Philips with the split.
  • “That’s all you can ask for,” Josh said. “If you can’t get two of them try to steal one. We’ve still got the home-court advantage. We’ve just got to be able to come in to a sellout crowd at Philips Arena, the Highlight Factory and try to use our fan advantage to win games.”
  • He looked into the camera when he said that last part about a sellout. It was a plea to fans.
  • The officiating was a mess with bodies banging all over the place, lots of rebounds and hard screens. The Magic cranked up their D but the Hawks thought they came out on the short end of calls.
  • “Some were fouls that wasn’t called,” Smoove said. “It is what it is. I think we handled the physicality well. I think we cranked up our defense as well. We have just got to make sure we box out next time because we played pretty good defense in the half court.”
  • The Magic didn’t wait to double team J.J. this time. An extra man came pretty much any time he got inside the 3-point line. Joe didn’t make good or quick decisions, dribbled headlong into traffic and pretty much stagnated the offense.
  • “He wasn’t a sharp as he was in Game 1,” L.D. said. “Clearly they were going to play him a lot more physical. I don’t think there was anything else about that. He is going to have to look at the film and see how they are playing him, do things quicker. He will bounce back.”
  • The Magic had to give up something while chasing Joe but Marvin missed the open jumpers that were available.
  • It’s not that Orlando’s role players hurt the Hawks: They were 18 of 66 from the field to Dwight’s 9 of 12. It’s just that they made timely shots after missing a bunch and played much better team defense in front of Dwight than in Game 1.
  • “Our guys’ effort tonight was above and beyond,” Stan Van Gundy said. “When you can shoot 34 percent in a playoff game and win it, I’ve got to be very proud of guys and just hope at some point guys will start making some shots.”
  • L.D. had some weird sub patterns tonight.
  • Josh Powell, not Zaza, was the first big off the bench when Al got two early fouls. Didn’t Powell already prove in Game 1 that he’s no match for Dwight? Hilton Armstrong got a turn against Dwight, too, and was ineffective.
  • Twin was solid against Dwight. He helped force three turnovers on Dwight’s first four post-ups but played only three minutes in the second quarter then didn’t play after an 8-minute stint in the third as Zaza got most of the minutes against Dwight.
  • “We got into a rhythm with Zaza out there,” Drew said. “I did not want to disrupt that. I thought Zaza did a really good job. We just couldn’t stop [Dwight].”
  • Al didn’t go back in after those two early fouls. The Magic wrecked the Hawks for 15 of their 16 first-half offensive boards with Al on the bench but somehow trailed just 48-42 at the half.
  • “The guys were playing well,” Al said. “It was just unfortunate that we are giving up offensive rebounds. That was the only thing that was a little frustrating. The defense was great. I think I finished up the game with two fouls. It’s kind of one of those things it is going to be up to [Drew]. I know he doesn’t want to risk it. We were fine today because we played good defense, we were only down six going into the half.”
  • L.D. said he had planned to put Al back in before halftime.
  • “When he came out, I told him to be prepared to go back in the second quarter,” Drew said. “My thought process behind that was if we were struggling, I was going to play him. But we actually played very well in that second quarter and it wasn’t until late in the second quarter when we hit the bump in the road. At that point I didn’t want to put him in and jeopardize him getting his third foul with less than three minutes to go.”
  • Al on sitting for that long: “It is tough. I was out of rhythm by the time I came in the second half. It took me a while to get going. It’s one of those things. The team player well but we missed some shots.”
  • Dwight played all 48 minutes and finished with five fouls.
  • Hinrich was sharp at the start and then just seemed to fade offensively. He’s one of the guys who had his space cut off by Orlando’s more aggressive D. “Maybe they had a little bit more sense of urgency tonight,” Hinrich said. “But it seemed like at times we got a little bogged down tonight offensively. In Game 1 we were just moving that ball.”
  • Al said he banged his right knee with a teammate’s knee in the second half but stayed in the game. He had ice on ot for the swelling after the game.
  • Jamal was the only guard who had it going offensively (though got in on the high-degree-of-difficulty shooting to do it). L.D. stuck with him late until the Hawks needed some D. He went back to Hinrich and later subbed Jamal for Zaza.
  • “Jamal was playing well and making shots,” Drew said. “There came a point where we needed to get some spots so I came back with Hinrich, and then came back with Jamal for [Zaza]. I was getting a feel who is going good and what do we need at that time.”
  • The Hawks left Orlando with a W, a loss in a near-comeback and home-court advantage. It feels a lot different from last year, when they headed back to Atlanta with two listless Ls and no hope of winning the series.
  • “It’s a different team,” Al said. “I’ve been trying to tell you guys. It is not the same team as you saw last year. I know they are different but we are different. We’re confident.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

237 comments Add your comment

Slimjr

April 20th, 2011
12:20 am

1st AGAIN?????????????????????????????????????????/

Slimjr

April 20th, 2011
12:22 am

@MC
“Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 88, Magic 82 ”
I wish that was really games 2 score….LOL

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Slimjr

April 20th, 2011
12:25 am

@MC, it was very obvious that the refs got the memo from the Home office to support Orlando to get this win…Superman has got to advance to get the ratings!!! LOL

Slimjr

April 20th, 2011
12:30 am

AllStar AL playing only 2 minutes in the 1st half was huge..Why did LD keep one his best rebounders out for so long? Orlando killed Atlanta on the boards in the 1st half..

Booo!

April 20th, 2011
12:32 am

Free The Teague!

MC, I really think you should stop being so nice to the officals. You are not on Fidel Castro’s Erm…I mean David Stern’s payroll.

The officals deserved to be taken out back behiend the arena and beaten after this game.

Go Hawks!

Booo!

April 20th, 2011
12:33 am

Jamal

April 20th, 2011
12:34 am

Larry Drew was absolutely terrible tonight. In a game that was this close, his foolish decision to sit Al Horford for what was, essentially, an entire half likely could have been the difference between a win and a loss in a game that was this close. Everyone but Drew sees this. It’s the playoffs, there’s no room for stupidity. You want to keep your best players on the floor as much as possible, and Drew’s stupidity didn’t allow for that to happen.

The Orlando Magic commentators, the media, the NBATV analysts, etc. were all talking about what a poor decision Drew made when he decided to sit Al for as long as he did. The entire complexion of the game changed during the time when he was out. It may have been different if he was in the game, and the bottom line is, that you should always utilize your best players as much as you can in the playoffs when the games are critical.

Drew’s coaching tonight was terrible. It’s unfortunate that all of that effort was essentially wasted due to the stupidity of one man, but what goes around, comes around, and what Drew has done throughout the year to hurt the success of this team has not gone unnoticed. If/when he loses his head coaching position, we’ll all know why, and no one can say that he didn’t deserve to lose the job.

Slimjr

April 20th, 2011
12:35 am

No Orlando’s defense didn’t play better…They got a lot of help from Mr. Stern……………….

Slimjr

April 20th, 2011
12:36 am

LARRY=2012 Lottery pick

Najeh Davenpoop

April 20th, 2011
12:38 am

“I thought Zaza did a really good job. We just couldn’t stop him.””

Huh?

Slimjr

April 20th, 2011
12:38 am

And Marvin was invisible again????????????????????

Buddy Grizzard

April 20th, 2011
12:39 am

For you casual NBA fans and Larry Drew lovers like Game has Changed, let me explain how foul trouble works in the NBA. The standard is Q+1 or quarter plus one, meaning whatever quarter it is, add one to that, and if you have that many fouls you are in foul trouble.

So in the first quarter, when Al Horford picked up two quick fouls, he was in foul trouble… Q1+1 = 2. In the second quarter, Q2+1 = 3. That means unless Al Horford has three fouls, he is not in foul trouble. Al Horford finished the game with two fouls. Al Horford sat the entire second quarter. Al Horford is one of the most efficient offensive players in the sport of basketball. The Hawks were outscored 32-20 in the second quarter.

GOOD GAME LARY!!!!!

Slimjr

April 20th, 2011
12:40 am

Allstar AL in the off season please work on your handle so you can become 10x more effective in the box.

Booo!

April 20th, 2011
12:42 am

Poop,

That quote caught my attention as well. Smh…

Slimjr

April 20th, 2011
12:45 am

“I thought Zaza did a really good job. We just couldn’t stop him.”

Booze and Basketball, the two shall never meet………………

Najeh Davenpoop

April 20th, 2011
12:49 am

““When he came out, I told him to be prepared to go back in the second quarter,” Drew said. “My thought process behind that was if we were struggling, I was going to play him. But we actually played very well in that second quarter and it wasn’t until late in the second quarter when we hit the bump in the road. At that point I didn’t want to put him in and jeopardize him getting his third foul with less than three minutes to go.””

I think I’m in the distinct minority on this, but I actually don’t have a problem with the general thought process. LD is right that the Hawks for the most part played well in the first half without Al and could afford to gamble by giving him an extended rest for most of the first half. The thing is, though, when you are gambling and you are riding a hot hand, you have to be able to recognize when you are cooling off. LD’s gamble started to fail with 3-4 minutes left in the 2nd, and at that point the importance of stemming the tide by bringing Al back in outweighed the risk of Al picking up his 3rd foul.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 20th, 2011
12:50 am

As far as the boards are concerned, the Hawks out-rebounded the Magic in the 2nd half with Al playing the entire time. I gotta point the finger at Smoove (who otherwise played a great game) at least to an extent for not crashing the boards with the same ferocity in the first half that Al did in the second half. 8 combined offensive boards for Brandon Bass and Ryan Anderson is way too much, and 6 total boards for Smoove is not enough. Dwight is going to get his boards. The rest of the team doesn’t have to.

Buddy Grizzard

April 20th, 2011
12:50 am

Also, Jamal Crawford continued his hot shooting, going 8-17 from the field to lead the team with 25 points. However, he had the second worst +/- of any Hawk to play at least 19 minutes (-8). The only Hawk in that category that was worse was Hinrich (-9). His hot shooting from the first game did NOT continue as he went 4-12 from the floor. And his assist to turnover ratio was back to what we’ve come to expect from him (1 assist, 2 turnovers).

northcyde

April 20th, 2011
12:52 am

“When he came out, I told him to be prepared to go back in the second quarter,” Drew said. “My thought process behind that was if we were struggling, I was going to play him. But we actually played very well in that second quarter and it wasn’t until late in the second quarter when we hit the bump in the road. At that point I didn’t want to put him in and jeopardize him getting his third foul with less than three minutes to go.”

Come on Larry. The dude has fouled out of 2 games in his ENTIRE NBA CAREER. Trust that man to not pick up the 3rd foul.

You called that timeout at the 7 minute mark, because Orlando had hit a few shots. You immediately got JJ back into the game and we were still up 5. THAT’S the time to get him back into the game. Stop overthinking ish.

We had a chance to possibly be ahead, even by as much as 10 points, had you put Al back into the game at that time. This is the playoffs. We NEED our best players out on the floor as much as possible. Unless a guy is playing out of his mind, and we’re extending the lead, get your main guys back on the damn floor.

Don’t lose this series because you “feel or think something”. Have set times for these guys to get back into the game, like most coaches, and see if your star players can win the game.

I mean, damn man. That was more than a bump in the road at the end of the quarter that we went through.

Orlando went on a 12 – 2, then a 14 – 3 run to close out that quarter.

And our best midrange shooter and best rebounder was on the bench, because of your “thoughts”.

Stop “thinking”. Coach the right way.

James on Pharr Rd

April 20th, 2011
12:53 am

Can Teague shut down Jameer and limit his penetration for 8-12 minutes?

James on Pharr Rd

April 20th, 2011
12:55 am

Did LD sit AH possibly because he was hurt?

mugs

April 20th, 2011
12:55 am

and the AJC fails yet again. this is just childish – how can you miss the most obvious and important typo in the entire article? did anyone edit this? FAIL

Najeh Davenpoop

April 20th, 2011
12:57 am

Also, when neither the regular forwards nor the guards are making anything happen offensively in the 3rd quarter, I don’t see the downside to giving Teague a few minutes and seeing if he can make something happen. He’s not going to be a defensive liability obviously, and the worst case scenario is that he comes in and doesn’t make any offensive impact, which doesn’t really hurt you much when your regulars are having little to no offensive impact anyway.

mykhalc

April 20th, 2011
12:59 am

Larry ’sittin’ ‘em ’cause i coach from fear of the 3rd foul’ Drew…SMH

mykhalc

April 20th, 2011
1:00 am

LD…he of the inviso Princeton offense!!!

Wabe

April 20th, 2011
1:01 am

Bottom line, you can blame Drew for sitting Horford for an extended period of time. I do think that gave the Magic the ability to walk into halftime with the lead.

But, the Magic gave the Hawks every opportunity within that 2nd half to retake control. Truth is, sitting Al Horford didn’t kill the Hawks. The Hawks inept offensive performance in the 2nd half did them in. The Hawks controlled the Magic offense. Although the Magic got a couple of clean looks from beyond the arc and even managed to hit a few, that didn’t do the Hawks in. Dwight may have had a big game, but that too could’ve been negated as his big game in game one was had the Hawks offense just got on track in that 2nd half.

JJ wasn’t anywhere near as aggressive or decisive tonight as he was in game one. He’ll have to be more aggressive going into the next game.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 20th, 2011
1:03 am

I think Game 3 is going to look a lot more like Game 2 than like Game 1. The Magic will continue to double Joe aggressively as long as he continues to be indecisive with the ball as he was throughout this team. But a better effort on the boards and more sensible substitution patterns would have turned tonight’s loss into a Hawks win, and I see no reason why the Hawks can’t grind out victories playing this style at home.

No Nique for me, though. I’m keeping my streak alive. Been to every Hawks playoff home game since they started making the playoffs again, and that’s going to continue through Game 4.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 20th, 2011
1:03 am

^^throughout this game

Slimjr

April 20th, 2011
1:05 am

LD=WEST GEORGIA OFFENSE

Wabe

April 20th, 2011
1:05 am

And I’m all for some PT for Jeff Teague. I hate how Drew thinks of this kid as a liability. This kid can provide us with some spot minutes when needed. Instead of trotting Jamal out there and giving him the responsibility of trying to stay in front of Nelson when Hinrich hits the bench, how bout giving Teague that task? Teague will not allow Nelson to dribble-penetrate. It won’t happen. Who knows? We could walk away with some turnovers – fastbreak opportunities and change up the tempo a bit?

Rusty

April 20th, 2011
1:10 am

He took out Collins when he didn’t have to putting in Powell &armstrong & that is when Howard started dominating,a real dumb move & where the hell was jt. Ld is a nightmare .

Meatball

April 20th, 2011
1:14 am

it breaks my heart to see how Drew is killing Teague’s career
another DNP and he’s prolly the quickest driver we have
SMH

Rusty

April 20th, 2011
1:19 am

I watch rondo quickness getting him & his team mates easy baskets & then watch the hawks shooting jumpshots while JT sits on the bench,it just makes me sick.

Buddy Grizzard

April 20th, 2011
1:27 am

“Truth is, sitting Al Horford didn’t kill the Hawks. The Hawks inept offensive performance in the 2nd half did them in.” – Wabe

Do you even watch basketball? The Hawks scored 40 points in the second half. Orlando scored 40 points in the second half. Orlando achieved the winning margin during a 32-20 second quarter in which Al Horford sat the ENTIRE quarter despite not being in foul trouble.

Buddy Grizzard

April 20th, 2011
1:29 am

Larry Drew will probably coach the Hawks next year during the lockout-shortened season so the ASG can save money. After that, he will be fired. And then he will NEVER be a head coach in the NBA EVER again. No other team would be stupid enough to hire someone who sits an All Star an entire half in a playoff game that may have swung the momentum of the entire series.

Buddy Grizzard

April 20th, 2011
1:30 am

Larry Drew making up for his low salary by working for Las Vegas?

Grandad

April 20th, 2011
1:53 am

My son asked me tonight;
“can a team fire a coach right now…”
“and let [Adelman] coach the rest of the play-offs”?

Grandad

April 20th, 2011
1:56 am

“Joe didn’t make good or quick decisions,
dribbled headlong into traffic
and pretty much stagnated the offense.”
— Michael Cunningham — on JJ Max

Rusty

April 20th, 2011
1:57 am

Doc Rivers has played & developed rondo & look what they have. Woody & Dumbo just keep JT on the bench,what do we have no ball movement & nothing but jump shooters.

Grandad

April 20th, 2011
2:15 am

Buddy Grizzard

Mr Grizzard, I’m not a casual NBA fan.
I’m also not defending LD.
Also, your so called Q+1 rule,
[with which I am unfamiliar]
sounds like a good rule of thumb.
But, for a lifer, like myself,
who coached by the seat of my pants,
(intuition, experience, situation, etc)
Ld already has too many little formulas
which he adheres to.
Somewhere along the line,
I would like to see him apply:
common sense, apptitude, logic, & reasoning.
Another item is this is the play-offs.
Too many years of Bobby Cox managing
as if it’s the regular season.
Same with LD.
One cannot use ones little regular season rubrics.
Every game counts…now.

Not countering your post, Mr Grizzard.
Only corresponding.

Buddy Grizzard

April 20th, 2011
2:48 am

No arguments Grandad.

Josh Powell first big man off the bench?

AH benched for an entire half?

GOOD GAME LAS VEGAS LARRY!

Let me know next time you’re going to tank a game so I can get my bets in.

superiorblogman

April 20th, 2011
2:53 am

So ready for the offseason

Grandad

April 20th, 2011
3:38 am

Sometimes you cannot look at the (+/-) stat
as an individual stat.
It’s better if you look at the 5 man combos.
* An anomaly = Jamal was a negative (+/-)
as was Hinrich, but upon further investigation;
Our best 5 man combo was:
Jamal, Joe, Josh, Zaza, & Al / *(last eve)
Josh was on the most 5 man combos with a positive (+/-)
* [we only had five and he was on all five]
** Jamal (4), Kirk, Joe, Zaza, & Al, each with (3).

*** It was always interesting to me that Bibby,
was consistently our leader, both individual & 5 man combos.

For what it’s worth.

Buddy Grizzard

April 20th, 2011
4:46 am

Where are all the Larry Drew excuse makers? Where’s Game has Changed? Where’s drmaryb??

Here’s Bret Lagree from Hoopinion:

“That’s a lot of work for 22 points (in the first quarter). Another coach might choose to count his blessings and get his best player back on the floor. Larry Drew decided to keep Al Horford on the bench for the entire second quarter and maximize Orlando’s chances of winning.”

That’s what Las Vegas Larry does when he’s got money on the line.

More from Bret:

Orlando outscored the Hawks by 12 during the second quarter, in which Al Horford did not play, Zaza Pachulia (8 rebounds in 19 minutes, finished with 4 fouls) played 22 seconds, Jason Collins (who helped force 4 turnovers on Howard’s first four touches in the first quarter) played 3:38, fourth- or fifth-string center Hilton Armstrong (1 offensive rebound, 1 turnover, 3 fouls) played 6:33, and the aforementioned … INCOMPETENT Josh Powell spent 2:11 on the floor en route to one foul and one offensive rebound. Dwight Howard scored 20 second quarter points.”

Edited for emphasis.

GOOD GAME LAS VEGAS LARRY!

JeJe

April 20th, 2011
5:45 am

ORL did NOT play well offensively. We gave them this damn game.

LD said his motion offense will excel in the playoffs because it’s unpredictable. What a joke

JeJe

April 20th, 2011
5:46 am

Horford played 2 minutes in the first half. Are you kidding me ? HE FINISHED WITH 2 FREAKING FOULS. HE DID NOT COMMIT ANOTHER FOUL IN 24 MINUTES IN THE 2ND HALF. THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE

WTF ARE YOU DOING, LD?

The Game Has Changed

April 20th, 2011
7:22 am

@Jamal-I hear you saying bad things about Drews coaching. Well what about game one. Are you going to give him credit for winning. Besides we also had a chance to win game one but the refs were not having that.

The Game Has Changed

April 20th, 2011
7:28 am

@Buddy Grizard-Im Here. Lary didnt cause us that game. We still had a chance to win. If anything he should have put Hinrich on the bench. He was off. Not to mention that horrible shot Al took towards the end of the game. So go ahead and monday morning QB. I didnt see yall giving him credit for game one. Also, they let Howard run over people the entire game. There is plenty of blame to go around. But I bet Drew win this series and the next. Bet on it

honest_abe

April 20th, 2011
7:28 am

sorry fellas but we all know what happened last night and there’s nothing we can do about it. the real question is how do the hawks adjust for game 3.

you can point to a lot of different factors as to why the hawks lost last night but i think the biggest one was that the magic set the tone early on with their physical play and the hawks didn’t respond. someone needs to step up and fight back. it looks like dwights playing with school children. intimidating them with shoves, forearm shivers, moving screens and the hawks are just letting him run all over them. if they continue down this path the hawks will lose in five.

and josh powell has no business being in the game other than to use up fouls. not as the first guy off the bench. cmon man!