Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 2: Dwight Defense and jump shots Part II?

Orlando–Some stats types are dismissive of the Hawks’ Game 1 victory because of the way Hurricane Dwight scattered them and also because of all of those long jump shots they made.

Example: Mike Prada of SBNation.

Apparently, it is possible for an NBA team to allow a player to score 46 points and be universally praised for it. Dwight Howard ran all over the Atlanta Hawks’ single-coverage, but because nobody else on his team decided to do much of anything, the Hawks came away with a Game 1 victory on the road. Howard and Jameer Nelson scored 73 points; everyone else on the Magic scored 20. Howard and Nelson shot 26-41; everyone else shot 8-34. It was a brilliant strategy by the Hawks to make sure that their horrible teammates had horrible games. Let’s praise them for it!

Snark aside, the bottom line is this. Playing Howard straight-up and taking away the three-point shooters is a strategy. Allowing Howard to score 46 points and hope his teammates shoot 8-34 is not. Luckily, the Hawks shot nearly 50 percent from 16-23 feet and made it work. That doesn’t mean it’s a sustainable long-term strategy, but whenever writers are given the chance to question Howard’s worth as a player for being just the 11th player since 1985 to score 45 or more points in a playoff game and lose, they’ll take it.

I like the snark, especially in service of going against the grain to knock down memes. But Prada’s take is pretty cynical. “Nobody else on the team decided to do much of anything” makes it sound as if the Hawks gave Dwight’s teammates lots of opportunities and they just didn’t take them. Similarly “hope his teammates shoot 8-34″ could instead be construed as “try to make sure they do.” Isn’t that the whole point of staying home on them?

And I hope no one is questioning Howard’s worth as a player based on Game 1 (or based on much of anything, really). Heck, if I’m the Magic, I don’t worry about getting anybody else involved if Dwight is hammering the Hawks again. Why give more chances to players who are not going to be as efficient? If Dwight has another monster game, the Magic could simply cut down on their turnovers, get more stops (which Stan Van Gundy acknowledges won’t be easy because of the match ups) and win. If so, the Dwight Defense will have been conquered.

Game 1 is not an indictment of Howard’s worth as a player. Instead, as Rob Mahoney noted at ProBasketballTalk: “This series could stand as an exercise [in] the limits of superstardom, as even a game-changing force like Howard is left a spectator to the shortcomings of his own teammates.”

It’s true the Hawks made a lot of long 2s but put that in the context that they made them at a higher percentage than any team during the regular season. It’s a tad dismissive to chalk it up those Game 1 jumpers to luck when the Hawks have more skilled jump shooters than most teams (and when the Magic don’t have the defenders to consistently challenge those shots). And much to my surprise the Hawks, thanks to J.J., were more than just a jump-shooting team in Game 1.

Van Gundy is a stats guy and also outspoken, so I thought he would shrug off Atlanta’s ability to make the most inefficient shots in basketball over the long run. But he didn’t do so.

“They are efficient with it,” Van Gundy said. “A lot of people don’t know that Al Horford, outside of 10 or 12 feet, he is the highest-percentage shooter in the league. That includes guards and guys like Nowitzki. Now he doesn’t stretch it out to three but he can make those shots. . . . They have a lot of guys who shoot the ball very well from that range. If we can get them down below what they normally do then I think we have a hell of a chance.”

Sounds like Van Gundy isn’t only hoping the Hawks miss those shots but believes the Magic actually have to do something to stop them.

Notes

  • Unlike yesterday, Josh didn’t have ice on his sore elbow prior to shootaround. “It feels better,” he said. “Two days [rest] did good. It feels all right. I still feel [pain] a little bit but I am pretty sure I won’t feel it tonight.” Josh said he would probably wear a padded sleeve tonight.
  • L.D. said he didn’t expect Josh’s injury to limit him much: “When he’s not scoring he has the ability to impact the game. The one thing I’ve talked to him in this series is zeroing in on Turkoglu and not allow him to get into a rhythm. I really believe with the elbow hurt he can still impact the game.”
  • Drew on adjustments for Game 2: “We are going to start the game as we did the last game. I am not going to panic with adjustments until we start getting hurt with things. Sometimes I think the tendency is to start making adjustments when there is no need to. I am not going to do anything out of the ordinary. If you have to make adjustments, do it but not if you don’t have to.”
  • Drew on how the Hawks will react of the Magic run them off jump shots: “If the drive allows us to get to the basket, we will get to the basket. If it allows us to play a mid range game, we will play with that. We are going to allow our instincts to take over. We are not going to predetermine what we are going to do offensively. The one thing we can’t do is shy away from getting to the basket, irregardless of who is down there. We recognize Dwight being a defensive presence in the low block and near the basket but I don’t think that should shy away from getting to the basket.”
  • J.J. on Orlando’s plan to disrupt him more in Game 2: “I’m going to just pick my spots like I did in Game 1. Not be too aggressive, but at the same time be aggressive enough to where I am making plays. We will see. I am sure they are going to come a lot quicker, especially with the double teams. We will see how everything works out.”
  • Josh on expecting the Magic to play with more intensity: “We have to control the tempo of the game because with them having the fans on their side it is going to be pretty hard to win the game. So we have to stay even-keeled when they make a run, don’t get discouraged and fight back and make a run of our own.”
  • Joe on the team’s mindset: “Like I said before Game 1, I think we are all ready and prepared in here. We are all confident and we believe in one another.”
  • AJC wise guy Jeff Schultz weighs in on Van Gundy and Dwight’s takes on Twin’s tactics.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

694 comments Add your comment

Brandon

April 19th, 2011
9:01 pm

Imagine how different this game would be if the head coaches were switched. If Van Gundy was the Hawks head coach, he’d probably have our guys playing to their strengths, and he’d be crunching stats to determine what works and what doesn’t. Also, he’d never be dumb enough to sit Horford for an entire half in a game like this. On the other side, Drew would probably have Jameer and Hedo hogging the ball the way JJ and Jamal do, and he’d have Dwight spotting up for bank shots, meanwhile, JJ Reddick would be running backup point guard for the Magic. The games probably wouldn’t even be close, unless Dwight got every single rebound and kept converting or getting fouled on put-backs.

Ole Hawks Fan

April 19th, 2011
9:01 pm

Box Out GUYS!

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:03 pm

Good post up by Al to start the 2nd half. Way to get the ball out of your hands when the help came.

Prison Mike

April 19th, 2011
9:04 pm

Good good that back to the basket game is horrendous.

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
9:04 pm

what the hell is going on here?

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:04 pm

Turk body blocks Kirk and Kirk gets the foul. Incredible.

cp

April 19th, 2011
9:04 pm

how is that on Kirk wtf

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
9:04 pm

this is crazy.

Brad

April 19th, 2011
9:04 pm

You have GOT to be kidding me with these refs

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:05 pm

Finally a trip to the line for the Hawks.

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
9:05 pm

damn.. they are pushing and shoving … so much more physical than the hawks in every aspect

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
9:05 pm

Bass was fouling him before he even got the shot up.. but if it were Dwight.. smh.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:06 pm

ANOTHER charge taken by Collins. LMAO

Prison Mike

April 19th, 2011
9:06 pm

Twin is a master at taking charges.

Brad

April 19th, 2011
9:06 pm

haha jasons collins wow

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
9:06 pm

twin = defensive player of the game

Buddy Grizzard

April 19th, 2011
9:07 pm

Al Horford played two minutes in the first half. When the Hawks lose by 1 and Horford finishes with 4 fould, I hope you will all finally realize what a retard LD is. Guess he’s saving him for next season?

Ole Hawks Fan

April 19th, 2011
9:07 pm

DAMN Refs called An Offensive foul on DA MAGIC!

cp

April 19th, 2011
9:08 pm

a bunch of dribbling then pass to Josh to take a shot with the clock running out smh

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:08 pm

Those are some feeble MVP chants from the Magic fans.

Hawks gotta get some easy buckets. Easy does not equal Joe dribbling on the perimeter.

Buddy Grizzard

April 19th, 2011
9:09 pm

Prison Mike

April 19th, 2011
9:09 pm

Kirk is killing the hawks, gonna start calling him DDT.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:09 pm

At least they are calling fouls for Al too, even if they are letting Dwight get away with anything on the other end.

J.J.M.

April 19th, 2011
9:10 pm

more jumpshots

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
9:10 pm

whens the last time the hawks ran a play?

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:10 pm

This sh-t ain’t working on offense. Joe has to start being aggressive going inside.

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
9:10 pm

good post Josh..

cp

April 19th, 2011
9:10 pm

the Hawks have no concept of boxing out

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
9:11 pm

Nique been calling Josh Joe all night..

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:11 pm

Good post up by Smoove. As long as he has Anderson on him they need to keep going to him.

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
9:11 pm

yay joe johnson

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:11 pm

Collins with the steal.

Melvin

April 19th, 2011
9:12 pm

Kirk looks tired…

J.J.M.

April 19th, 2011
9:12 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:12 pm

JOE QUIT BEING PASSIVE WTF

O'Brien

April 19th, 2011
9:12 pm

Hawks are jumper happy. But they are not making them, and they are not rebounding.

If you look at the shot chart, Hawks have taken 13 shots inside the paint. 13. They have taken 39 outside the paint.

Prison Mike

April 19th, 2011
9:12 pm

JFC, take slim shady out already.

Brandon

April 19th, 2011
9:12 pm

Come on, keep feeding Horford against Bass. Bass now has 3 fouls. Go at him. If he goes out, then the Magic will be forced to play Anderson at the 4, which is a huge mismatch in the Hawks favor. I wish the coaching staff would think for once. Come on, coach Disgrace, can’t you do better than just isolating Joe and Jamal!?

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:13 pm

I’d be down to see the Teague-Jamal back court with this front court on the floor right now. Hawks need a spark offensively.

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
9:13 pm

“his stat line looks tired”

lol

Brad

April 19th, 2011
9:13 pm

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
9:14 pm

i agree. hinrich looks winded

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
9:14 pm

somebody please slap some common sense into ld

J.J.M.

April 19th, 2011
9:15 pm

jumpshots not falling anymore drive the ball

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:15 pm

Nice flop Collins. Bailing out yet another ineffective offensive possession.

At least that time it resulted in an uncontested jumper for Al, a shot he usually makes.

cp

April 19th, 2011
9:15 pm

get Hinrich out of there

Prison Mike

April 19th, 2011
9:15 pm

DDT has missed about 10 straight shots, give em the hook.

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
9:16 pm

good set up Joe.. get Al going..

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

April 19th, 2011
9:16 pm

“To live and die by jump shots….is the THHIIING to do”

O'Brien

April 19th, 2011
9:16 pm

Kirk: 1-4 from 3.

Josh: 1-4 from 3.

Marvin: 0-2 from 3.

We need to get some buckets. Or just a spark. Maybe LD will put Teague in if jamal starts missing on offense and struggling on defense…