Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 2: Dwight Defense and jump shots Part II?

Orlando–Some stats types are dismissive of the Hawks’ Game 1 victory because of the way Hurricane Dwight scattered them and also because of all of those long jump shots they made.

Example: Mike Prada of SBNation.

Apparently, it is possible for an NBA team to allow a player to score 46 points and be universally praised for it. Dwight Howard ran all over the Atlanta Hawks’ single-coverage, but because nobody else on his team decided to do much of anything, the Hawks came away with a Game 1 victory on the road. Howard and Jameer Nelson scored 73 points; everyone else on the Magic scored 20. Howard and Nelson shot 26-41; everyone else shot 8-34. It was a brilliant strategy by the Hawks to make sure that their horrible teammates had horrible games. Let’s praise them for it!

Snark aside, the bottom line is this. Playing Howard straight-up and taking away the three-point shooters is a strategy. Allowing Howard to score 46 points and hope his teammates shoot 8-34 is not. Luckily, the Hawks shot nearly 50 percent from 16-23 feet and made it work. That doesn’t mean it’s a sustainable long-term strategy, but whenever writers are given the chance to question Howard’s worth as a player for being just the 11th player since 1985 to score 45 or more points in a playoff game and lose, they’ll take it.

I like the snark, especially in service of going against the grain to knock down memes. But Prada’s take is pretty cynical. “Nobody else on the team decided to do much of anything” makes it sound as if the Hawks gave Dwight’s teammates lots of opportunities and they just didn’t take them. Similarly “hope his teammates shoot 8-34″ could instead be construed as “try to make sure they do.” Isn’t that the whole point of staying home on them?

And I hope no one is questioning Howard’s worth as a player based on Game 1 (or based on much of anything, really). Heck, if I’m the Magic, I don’t worry about getting anybody else involved if Dwight is hammering the Hawks again. Why give more chances to players who are not going to be as efficient? If Dwight has another monster game, the Magic could simply cut down on their turnovers, get more stops (which Stan Van Gundy acknowledges won’t be easy because of the match ups) and win. If so, the Dwight Defense will have been conquered.

Game 1 is not an indictment of Howard’s worth as a player. Instead, as Rob Mahoney noted at ProBasketballTalk: “This series could stand as an exercise [in] the limits of superstardom, as even a game-changing force like Howard is left a spectator to the shortcomings of his own teammates.”

It’s true the Hawks made a lot of long 2s but put that in the context that they made them at a higher percentage than any team during the regular season. It’s a tad dismissive to chalk it up those Game 1 jumpers to luck when the Hawks have more skilled jump shooters than most teams (and when the Magic don’t have the defenders to consistently challenge those shots). And much to my surprise the Hawks, thanks to J.J., were more than just a jump-shooting team in Game 1.

Van Gundy is a stats guy and also outspoken, so I thought he would shrug off Atlanta’s ability to make the most inefficient shots in basketball over the long run. But he didn’t do so.

“They are efficient with it,” Van Gundy said. “A lot of people don’t know that Al Horford, outside of 10 or 12 feet, he is the highest-percentage shooter in the league. That includes guards and guys like Nowitzki. Now he doesn’t stretch it out to three but he can make those shots. . . . They have a lot of guys who shoot the ball very well from that range. If we can get them down below what they normally do then I think we have a hell of a chance.”

Sounds like Van Gundy isn’t only hoping the Hawks miss those shots but believes the Magic actually have to do something to stop them.

Notes

  • Unlike yesterday, Josh didn’t have ice on his sore elbow prior to shootaround. “It feels better,” he said. “Two days [rest] did good. It feels all right. I still feel [pain] a little bit but I am pretty sure I won’t feel it tonight.” Josh said he would probably wear a padded sleeve tonight.
  • L.D. said he didn’t expect Josh’s injury to limit him much: “When he’s not scoring he has the ability to impact the game. The one thing I’ve talked to him in this series is zeroing in on Turkoglu and not allow him to get into a rhythm. I really believe with the elbow hurt he can still impact the game.”
  • Drew on adjustments for Game 2: “We are going to start the game as we did the last game. I am not going to panic with adjustments until we start getting hurt with things. Sometimes I think the tendency is to start making adjustments when there is no need to. I am not going to do anything out of the ordinary. If you have to make adjustments, do it but not if you don’t have to.”
  • Drew on how the Hawks will react of the Magic run them off jump shots: “If the drive allows us to get to the basket, we will get to the basket. If it allows us to play a mid range game, we will play with that. We are going to allow our instincts to take over. We are not going to predetermine what we are going to do offensively. The one thing we can’t do is shy away from getting to the basket, irregardless of who is down there. We recognize Dwight being a defensive presence in the low block and near the basket but I don’t think that should shy away from getting to the basket.”
  • J.J. on Orlando’s plan to disrupt him more in Game 2: “I’m going to just pick my spots like I did in Game 1. Not be too aggressive, but at the same time be aggressive enough to where I am making plays. We will see. I am sure they are going to come a lot quicker, especially with the double teams. We will see how everything works out.”
  • Josh on expecting the Magic to play with more intensity: “We have to control the tempo of the game because with them having the fans on their side it is going to be pretty hard to win the game. So we have to stay even-keeled when they make a run, don’t get discouraged and fight back and make a run of our own.”
  • Joe on the team’s mindset: “Like I said before Game 1, I think we are all ready and prepared in here. We are all confident and we believe in one another.”
  • AJC wise guy Jeff Schultz weighs in on Van Gundy and Dwight’s takes on Twin’s tactics.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

694 comments Add your comment

Jamal

April 19th, 2011
8:34 pm

I’m really skeptical about L.D. keeping Al out for the entire half with those 2 fouls. I hope that it pays off and doesn’t come back to bite us. If Al was in, we may have been up by double-digits by the half, but on the other hand, he may have picked up a third foul and then being plagued with foul trouble in the third quarter again.

northcyde

April 19th, 2011
8:34 pm

Nah MsDee . . . we’re grinding right now. Nowhere near playing perfect. Just grinding. WE’re OK as long as we keep playing like this

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
8:35 pm

good d Hilton

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
8:35 pm

Good contest by Hilton on Dwight.

MsDee

April 19th, 2011
8:35 pm

Josh doubled

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
8:35 pm

About time. Foul #1 on Dwight.

Melvin

April 19th, 2011
8:35 pm

About time they call Dwight for foul….

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
8:35 pm

O'Brien

April 19th, 2011
8:35 pm

Finally Foul on Dwight

J.J.M.

April 19th, 2011
8:36 pm

whatttt foul on howard no wayyyy

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
8:36 pm

Turk’s length is bothering Joe, but he’s gotta move quicker than that.

J.J.M.

April 19th, 2011
8:36 pm

ok joe trying to hard people

O'Brien

April 19th, 2011
8:36 pm

@sportsguy33 Bill Simmons (on twitter).

I think the Hawks have played more playoff games on NBATV than every other NBA team combined..

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
8:37 pm

joe’s handle is crazy.. wow.

too bad Dwight is in the middle..

northcyde

April 19th, 2011
8:37 pm

No need to force that JJ . . make your move then get rid of the ball if it isn’t there.

MsDee

April 19th, 2011
8:37 pm

Even tho Joe missed, I like that he didnt settle for a jumper..kinda wish he would have made contact tho

cp

April 19th, 2011
8:37 pm

Too much dribbling Joe. Make quick decisions

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
8:37 pm

Where are the Joe floaters from Game 1?

northcyde

April 19th, 2011
8:38 pm

That’s better . . wide open shot for Smith off the pass.

Brad

April 19th, 2011
8:38 pm

Seriously, what is going on with these refs?? I give the Hawks credit for not whining TOO much

J.J.M.

April 19th, 2011
8:38 pm

good point@najeh I dont think iv seen any so far

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
8:39 pm

Joe can break Turk down off the dribble. All he needs is a step to get off the floater or get fouled. It’s just a matter of committing to doing that. Come on Joe. If he steps up and starts playing like Game 1 the Hawks can take control of this game.

northcyde

April 19th, 2011
8:39 pm

They;re doubling him . . plus you have 6 – 10 Turk on him instead of the smaller Richardson or Redick. He might want to take a few pull up jumpers, and see if he can get the midrange shot going.

Prison Mike

April 19th, 2011
8:39 pm

Drew has to sense hinrich has lost his effectiveness from the 1st quarter and insert teague.

KevinM

April 19th, 2011
8:39 pm

I think we’ve seen enough from Hilton Armstrong.

I sure would like to see Teague out of his warmups.

MsDee

April 19th, 2011
8:39 pm

Yeah, the Ref’s not giving us any respect but I do love that the Hawks arent complaining. If we continue to stay close, we have a chance to steal 2 in this building!!

Jamal

April 19th, 2011
8:40 pm

At there’s some positives for the Hawks going into the second half. Dwight played the entire half, meanwhile Al basically sat on the bench for the entire half, and yet we didn’t get trashed by the Magic. Also, Joe really hasn’t gotten it going yet, and we are still in this. Hopefully, once the third quarter starts, Al and Joe will get it going and the Hawks will lock it down on D.

cp

April 19th, 2011
8:40 pm

LD is acting like Al has 4 fouls

J.J.M.

April 19th, 2011
8:41 pm

another horrible turnover by kirk

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
8:41 pm

Good foul by Smoove. Make him earn it.

Melvin

April 19th, 2011
8:42 pm

Comeon Kirk, how many times are you going to fumble the ball?

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
8:42 pm

take care of the rock Kirk..

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
8:42 pm

don’t care for this 5

Justin

April 19th, 2011
8:42 pm

LD is acting like Al, Twin, and Zaza have 4 fouls each.

northcyde

April 19th, 2011
8:42 pm

Wow . . 14 offensive rebounds for the Magic. If we would’ve cut that off, we’d be up 10 right now.

J.J.M.

April 19th, 2011
8:42 pm

Melvin

April 19th, 2011
8:43 pm

Put Marvin some azz on the bench…

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
8:43 pm

the hell is ld thinking?

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
8:43 pm

Marvin needs to jump up and draw the foul on those. Come on man.

Hawks have been getting killed on the boards all game and it’s finally starting to come back and bite them.

northcyde

April 19th, 2011
8:43 pm

Another offensive rebound . ; . 15

Justin

April 19th, 2011
8:43 pm

Twin was containing Howard, but for some reason LD thought that Powell and Hilton Armstrong could check him until half time. Now he’s got like 20 points.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
8:43 pm

Maybe the Hawks should just start taking all their shots from 30 feet away.

northcyde

April 19th, 2011
8:43 pm

Thre you go JJ

Prison Mike

April 19th, 2011
8:43 pm

When joe is decisive, he’s at his best.

O'Brien

April 19th, 2011
8:43 pm

Hawks are not even making an effort to box out.

And we needed that from Joe. Nique calls it a dagger? a 3-ptr to tie the game at 42 in the first half, and Nique calls it a dagger?

KevinM

April 19th, 2011
8:43 pm

Bang! Says JJ!

Melvin

April 19th, 2011
8:44 pm

Why dont they call Dwight for setting those picks?

MsDee

April 19th, 2011
8:44 pm

Maybe Joe needs to stay way out there!

J.J.M.

April 19th, 2011
8:44 pm

no one will drive the damn ball thats why we are not getting to the line

cp

April 19th, 2011
8:44 pm

wtf was that Marvin. Hawks getting killed on the glass… Damn Joe with the range again