Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 2: Dwight Defense and jump shots Part II?

Orlando–Some stats types are dismissive of the Hawks’ Game 1 victory because of the way Hurricane Dwight scattered them and also because of all of those long jump shots they made.

Example: Mike Prada of SBNation.

Apparently, it is possible for an NBA team to allow a player to score 46 points and be universally praised for it. Dwight Howard ran all over the Atlanta Hawks’ single-coverage, but because nobody else on his team decided to do much of anything, the Hawks came away with a Game 1 victory on the road. Howard and Jameer Nelson scored 73 points; everyone else on the Magic scored 20. Howard and Nelson shot 26-41; everyone else shot 8-34. It was a brilliant strategy by the Hawks to make sure that their horrible teammates had horrible games. Let’s praise them for it!

Snark aside, the bottom line is this. Playing Howard straight-up and taking away the three-point shooters is a strategy. Allowing Howard to score 46 points and hope his teammates shoot 8-34 is not. Luckily, the Hawks shot nearly 50 percent from 16-23 feet and made it work. That doesn’t mean it’s a sustainable long-term strategy, but whenever writers are given the chance to question Howard’s worth as a player for being just the 11th player since 1985 to score 45 or more points in a playoff game and lose, they’ll take it.

I like the snark, especially in service of going against the grain to knock down memes. But Prada’s take is pretty cynical. “Nobody else on the team decided to do much of anything” makes it sound as if the Hawks gave Dwight’s teammates lots of opportunities and they just didn’t take them. Similarly “hope his teammates shoot 8-34″ could instead be construed as “try to make sure they do.” Isn’t that the whole point of staying home on them?

And I hope no one is questioning Howard’s worth as a player based on Game 1 (or based on much of anything, really). Heck, if I’m the Magic, I don’t worry about getting anybody else involved if Dwight is hammering the Hawks again. Why give more chances to players who are not going to be as efficient? If Dwight has another monster game, the Magic could simply cut down on their turnovers, get more stops (which Stan Van Gundy acknowledges won’t be easy because of the match ups) and win. If so, the Dwight Defense will have been conquered.

Game 1 is not an indictment of Howard’s worth as a player. Instead, as Rob Mahoney noted at ProBasketballTalk: “This series could stand as an exercise [in] the limits of superstardom, as even a game-changing force like Howard is left a spectator to the shortcomings of his own teammates.”

It’s true the Hawks made a lot of long 2s but put that in the context that they made them at a higher percentage than any team during the regular season. It’s a tad dismissive to chalk it up those Game 1 jumpers to luck when the Hawks have more skilled jump shooters than most teams (and when the Magic don’t have the defenders to consistently challenge those shots). And much to my surprise the Hawks, thanks to J.J., were more than just a jump-shooting team in Game 1.

Van Gundy is a stats guy and also outspoken, so I thought he would shrug off Atlanta’s ability to make the most inefficient shots in basketball over the long run. But he didn’t do so.

“They are efficient with it,” Van Gundy said. “A lot of people don’t know that Al Horford, outside of 10 or 12 feet, he is the highest-percentage shooter in the league. That includes guards and guys like Nowitzki. Now he doesn’t stretch it out to three but he can make those shots. . . . They have a lot of guys who shoot the ball very well from that range. If we can get them down below what they normally do then I think we have a hell of a chance.”

Sounds like Van Gundy isn’t only hoping the Hawks miss those shots but believes the Magic actually have to do something to stop them.

Notes

  • Unlike yesterday, Josh didn’t have ice on his sore elbow prior to shootaround. “It feels better,” he said. “Two days [rest] did good. It feels all right. I still feel [pain] a little bit but I am pretty sure I won’t feel it tonight.” Josh said he would probably wear a padded sleeve tonight.
  • L.D. said he didn’t expect Josh’s injury to limit him much: “When he’s not scoring he has the ability to impact the game. The one thing I’ve talked to him in this series is zeroing in on Turkoglu and not allow him to get into a rhythm. I really believe with the elbow hurt he can still impact the game.”
  • Drew on adjustments for Game 2: “We are going to start the game as we did the last game. I am not going to panic with adjustments until we start getting hurt with things. Sometimes I think the tendency is to start making adjustments when there is no need to. I am not going to do anything out of the ordinary. If you have to make adjustments, do it but not if you don’t have to.”
  • Drew on how the Hawks will react of the Magic run them off jump shots: “If the drive allows us to get to the basket, we will get to the basket. If it allows us to play a mid range game, we will play with that. We are going to allow our instincts to take over. We are not going to predetermine what we are going to do offensively. The one thing we can’t do is shy away from getting to the basket, irregardless of who is down there. We recognize Dwight being a defensive presence in the low block and near the basket but I don’t think that should shy away from getting to the basket.”
  • J.J. on Orlando’s plan to disrupt him more in Game 2: “I’m going to just pick my spots like I did in Game 1. Not be too aggressive, but at the same time be aggressive enough to where I am making plays. We will see. I am sure they are going to come a lot quicker, especially with the double teams. We will see how everything works out.”
  • Josh on expecting the Magic to play with more intensity: “We have to control the tempo of the game because with them having the fans on their side it is going to be pretty hard to win the game. So we have to stay even-keeled when they make a run, don’t get discouraged and fight back and make a run of our own.”
  • Joe on the team’s mindset: “Like I said before Game 1, I think we are all ready and prepared in here. We are all confident and we believe in one another.”
  • AJC wise guy Jeff Schultz weighs in on Van Gundy and Dwight’s takes on Twin’s tactics.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

694 comments Add your comment

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:56 pm

Yeah, Zaza has done an admirable job on Dwight after giving up those two easy shots to him early in the quarter.

With that said, Collins still gives the Hawks the best chance to draw the 6th foul on Dwight and he also has the length to contest those post ups better than Zaza. I’d still feel more comfortable right now with him in.

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
9:56 pm

lol Sautee..

leedsatlanta

April 19th, 2011
9:57 pm

Drew put Teague in now to drive at Howard and play D! Oh that’s right, you got no balls!!!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:57 pm

GREAT DEFENSE

Brad

April 19th, 2011
9:57 pm

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
9:57 pm

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

April 19th, 2011
9:57 pm

lmao lets get it

Lauren

April 19th, 2011
9:57 pm

Yeah baby! Let’s go

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:58 pm

QUIT WASTING TIME MOVE

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:58 pm

Dagger in the coffin.

steve

April 19th, 2011
9:58 pm

Quite possibly the worst possession all season. No play called at all.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
9:58 pm

That wasted possession really hurt.

cp

April 19th, 2011
9:58 pm

bad shot Al and that Richardson 3 might do it

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
9:58 pm

Joe pissed he didnt get the pass of the curl ..

turned into a step back jumper off the dribble from Al.

Wabe

April 19th, 2011
9:59 pm

had our chance.

that last possession was a stupid possession.

again, too long getting into what we wanted. and al horford ends up taking a dumb shot with the clock winding down.

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
9:59 pm

there was a play josh just wasn’t paying attention.

Lauren

April 19th, 2011
9:59 pm

@leedsatlanta…i agree, put Teague in the game. it would have been a great matchup against Jameer or Reddick

Prison Mike

April 19th, 2011
9:59 pm

Man DDT is too slow footed, that would have been amazing if he could have corralled that ball.

Melvin

April 19th, 2011
9:59 pm

Joe or Kirk has to come get the ball in that situation…

Brandon

April 19th, 2011
10:00 pm

Al almost never takes rushed shots. I’m guessing he got a bit too excited there and rushed that shot when he saw Anderson on him. The Hawks need to score quick now. Pretty soon, we’ve got to play the foul game.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
10:00 pm

As is the case a lot of the time when people get on Smoove for taking bad shots, it wasn’t Al’s fault he had to take that bad shot as much as it was the fault of the team as a whole for not executing the initial play properly and forcing him into a situation where he had to take that shot.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
10:00 pm

Now that was a bad shot. Game over.

cp

April 19th, 2011
10:01 pm

so LD drew up Al taking a 3?

steve

April 19th, 2011
10:01 pm

Al rushed the shot b/c there was no time on the shot clock when he got the ball because we dribbled it around the top of the key way to long

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
10:01 pm

2 Horford perimeter shots..

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
10:02 pm

hnmm.

wanted this game.

Melvin

April 19th, 2011
10:02 pm

I didnt like Al last two shots…

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
10:02 pm

why is Jamal on the guy they want to get it to?

Brandon

April 19th, 2011
10:02 pm

“so LD drew up Al taking a 3?”

I don’t think that was the play, but I can live with that. He was wide open, and he’s one of the best shooters on the team. I’m guessing that play was most likely supposed to result in a shot for Joe, but he had all the attention on him and had to give up the ball. At least Al showed the confidence to take that shot.

ceeCee

April 19th, 2011
10:03 pm

LARRY DREW NEEDS TO BE FIRED TONIGHT!!!! HOW THE HECK U SIT JAMAL(tHE ONLYONE SCORING) ON THE BENCH UNDER 2 MINUTES…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! friggin stupid!

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
10:03 pm

lol @ Al’s reaction on the Nelson miss..

Prison Mike

April 19th, 2011
10:03 pm

It’s irrelevant on the last two shots I want to know have we got down 7 after coming within 2 in like 30 seconds.

JeJe

April 19th, 2011
10:04 pm

Horford played 2 minutes in the first half because of 2 fouls. He finished with 2 fouls

Not the first time this has happened this year

Brandon

April 19th, 2011
10:04 pm

“Al rushed the shot b/c there was no time on the shot clock when he got the ball because we dribbled it around the top of the key way to long”

Yeah, I’m not too angry about that last shot. That was a decent shot. It was his previous shot that was a bad one.

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
10:05 pm

i wish Nique would shut up playing fortune teller.

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
10:06 pm

yea..

Drew has to quit managing Al like he’s a physical defender.. he picks up most of his fouls on illegal screens..

Brandon

April 19th, 2011
10:06 pm

“Horford played 2 minutes in the first half because of 2 fouls. He finished with 2 fouls

Not the first time this has happened this year”

Also, it makes it even worse when you think about the fact that his production could have really tipped the balance in a close game like this. In basically one half of play, he has a double-double and 2 rejections. If he had been in the game in that first half, who knows what would have happen. We might have lost, but we also might have won.

Ole Hawks Fan

April 19th, 2011
10:06 pm

How many points for Max JJ tonight and Capt Kirk?

Wabe

April 19th, 2011
10:06 pm

Al Horford’s fade away jumper was a result of J.Smith not getting the ball to JJ who was coming off the curl. I won’t fault Josh for it, because had Joe’s man played the passing lane and intercepted the pass, we would’ve been all over Josh.

I’m not as bummed about that Horford 3. He took it. I really thought it would go in when he took it. It didn’t go in.

We played terribly offensively throughout the 2nd half. We were hoping one spurt could get us back to ATL 2-0. I’m not gonna fault Horford or anybody else for a play here or a play there. Truth is, the guys didn’t have it collectively tonight.

bigdave

April 19th, 2011
10:06 pm

hell make them shoot ft’s .. i dont have anywhere to be…

cp

April 19th, 2011
10:07 pm

Ole Hawks Fan

April 19th, 2011
10:07 pm

jeff Teague-DNP-CD

honest_abe

April 19th, 2011
10:07 pm

what are you guys complaining about? at least josh powell got extended minutes! bah!!!!!

Wabe

April 19th, 2011
10:08 pm

Done deal.

1-1.

This thing’s gonna go 7.

Brandon

April 19th, 2011
10:09 pm

Hawks just couldn’t execute at the end of this game. It’s sad that all of that work in game 1 really will mean nothing if we don’t turn things around quick. Still, I think we could have won this game with better coaching.

JeJe

April 19th, 2011
10:09 pm

LD,

THIS IS YOUR CHANCE. CALL OUT THE REFS AND GET THAT MANDATORY FINE. THEN WATCH THE REFS IN GAME 3

COME ON

JOE

Ole Hawks Fan

April 19th, 2011
10:09 pm

Nique has on Buddy Suit he beat DOWN tonight!

Worldwide Clyde

April 19th, 2011
10:10 pm

Hawks gonna regret no taking this game. Poor coaching and poor shot selection.

cp

April 19th, 2011
10:10 pm

Is the next game on TNT or ESPN? I just cant listen to anymore Nique

Najeh Davenpoop

April 19th, 2011
10:10 pm

“THIS IS YOUR CHANCE. CALL OUT THE REFS AND GET THAT MANDATORY FINE. THEN WATCH THE REFS IN GAME 3″

Co-sign. It worked for them. Might as well give it a shot.