Atlanta Hawks: Video: Sticking to the plan

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Rufus1

April 18th, 2011
4:55 pm

drmaryb (*_-)

April 18th, 2011
5:23 pm

Around The Horn!

The 3 pundits all predict Atlanta will CRUSH Magic. Bill Plaschke,
Woody Paige, Tim Cowlishaw and. Mike Smith: :

All say, Hawks have too much size and talent up front. Great game plan to put single coverage on Dwight. Also said, Atlanta has 3 Super Stars to the Magic 1. Bill said, your Center and PG score 73 and you still lose? – that means your play offs is over.
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I guess these didn’t get the ESPN Memo!

jp

April 18th, 2011
5:38 pm

series isn’t over yet and magic are probably still the favorites but I like our chances

Rev in Tampa

April 18th, 2011
5:53 pm

I like the chess match that developed between SVG and LD. I would give the definite edge to SVG except that he just doesn’t have the pieces on the board to compete.

Last year SVG said, “Pick your poison. Will you defend the three point shot or Dwight?”

Woody tried to do both resulting in doing neither. Atlanta wasn’t so much beaten as exploited last year.

KevinM

April 18th, 2011
6:03 pm

3 superstars to 1? That’s quite a reach, but I will say our 3 is a better balance than the Magic’s 3.
What was JRich doing on the floor for 41 min in Game 1? That was a pathetic statline for anyone with those minutes.
The Hawks still have lots to improve upon. Dwight shouldn’t be getting 46 in Game 2. What’s the rule on Hack-a-Howard these days?

KevinM

April 18th, 2011
6:05 pm

Rev, last year, it was minimum 5 Magic on offense and 4 Hawks on defense…we’re a bit better now with KH.

Jae Evolution

April 18th, 2011
6:10 pm

Rick Adelman will not return as Rockets head coach, add him to the list for coaches to go after…

Double Zero Eight

April 18th, 2011
6:11 pm

If we don’t stick to the plan, we don’t have a chance.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 18th, 2011
6:27 pm

Rick Adleman

The journey man, who never really got to coach Yao Ming.
I would rather have no center at all and search for options than to be teased by the Ming’s and Oden’s of the world. Especially with the
money that was to Ming @ the elusive center position.

This series is ours to win or lose. We are definitely in control of our own destiny. We need a killer mentality, bully-ball is the tone we need to set. Collins and ZaZa can do that. If Marvin is gonna be invisible, he may as well hit somebody too.

No lay up drills allowed in our paint from the guards and wings!
Frustrate Howard with hard fouls and watch him whine.
He can dish the nasty, but he sure can’t take it.

The Truth

April 18th, 2011
6:32 pm

“Joe Johnson giving Jason Richardson fits this season (video)”

This is perhaps a most telling factor as to why the Hawks have a better chance to win the series against Orlando. It would be politically incorrect for Van Gundy to admit his misses Vince Carter but it is what it is.

“Earlier this season, Van Gundy called Richardson his best individual defender. The Magic need Richardson to play like it for four games this series.”

The Truth

April 18th, 2011
6:33 pm

*he misses Vince Carter

Booo!

April 18th, 2011
6:34 pm

Now hold yer horses Jae, I know we’ve all been calling for LD’s head over the latter part of the season, but lets just see how he fares the rest of the post season. After that awesome game 1, I’m kinda curious. But if we go on to get swept by the Cows in round 2 the all bets are off.

Activate Hilton Armstrong! That’s six more doses of punishment that we can dish out to Dwight!

Free the Teague!

drmaryb (*_-)

April 18th, 2011
6:34 pm

Zach Randolph signed 4 yrs/71M today. WOW! He got paid.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 18th, 2011
6:37 pm

Even MC rocking the playoff beard haha.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 18th, 2011
6:39 pm

I wouldn’t mind bringing Adelman and Yao to the Hawks. If Yao is healthy, you have one of the best centers in the league at what is surely going to be a bargain price. If he’s not, you revert back to what the Hawks are currently doing, which still works against the majority of teams in the league. I don’t see the downside.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 18th, 2011
6:41 pm

^^And by “what the Hawks are currently doing” I mean playing Al at center against most teams and going with Collins against big centers.

northcyde

April 18th, 2011
6:46 pm

LOL @ that article validating everything I was talking about yesterday about JJ’s defense. Like I said, JJ may not be flashy, or diving in the stands or on the floor for loos balls. But all that guy does is hold people down.

The 17.1 ppg his opponents at SG scored against him throughout the season, translates into 12.8 ppg on a per-36 minute basis.

J-Rich is their 2nd leading scorer. And if JJ can continue to hold him down and limit his shots, or make him make tough shots, it’s going to be mighty hard for Orlando to overcome that.

northcyde

April 18th, 2011
6:47 pm

The 17.1 on a per-48 minute basis translates into 12.8 points on a per-36 minute basis.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 18th, 2011
6:53 pm

From the previous blog…

“Najeh I don’t understand what you mean by keeping the soft cap and yet enforcing a hard cap. For example, with luxury tax payments, LA pays around $100m in salaries. David Stern wants a hard cap around $45 million. If the latest proposal goes through, players currently under contract would receive the full value, but new salaries would be capped until the transition to a hard cap is completed. I don’t see where the middle ground is.”

Right now teams can exceed the luxury tax threshold as long as they pay the dollar for dollar tax for every dollar spent over the threshold. Currently there is the soft salary cap, which is somewhere around $55 million, and the luxury tax threshold, which is somewhere around $70 million. I’m saying they should keep the $55 million soft cap (which can only be exceeded via exceptions like the Bird exception or the mid-level) but they should change the $70 million tax threshold to a hard cap.

Stern’s idea of a $45 million hard cap is insane and he knows it will never happen.

If my idea were implemented, if I’m not mistaken, the only teams that would have new salaries capped are the ones who are already over the luxury tax, which as of right now constitutes six teams. And the overall effect would be that teams like the Mavs and Lakers who are willing and able to spend above and beyond the luxury tax threshold would no longer be able to do so, but the current mechanisms in place that give players incentives to remain with their current teams would still exist.

KevinM

April 18th, 2011
6:54 pm

I love to dream too, but Yao won’t fit in any cap we have going forward.

With Adelman, do you realize he was getting 7M/year to coach that team?
No way, he brings his offense to Atlanta…we are stuck with LD and I wouldn’t want him to bring Bibby back with him.

And Truth, dead on! Carter used to give us fits!

DHoward on NBA tonight saying the Hawks are his ‘personal’ rival.

Gettin’ ready for DHoward…..Collins and Zaza practicing with boxing gloves on…

Najeh Davenpoop

April 18th, 2011
7:03 pm

If they make a hard cap too low, like Stern’s idea, it will only incentivize stars to go to big markets at an even greater rate so that they can make up the difference via endorsements. I think someone pointed this out on the previous blog. If they make a hard cap too high with no soft cap beneath it, big market teams will just gut their rosters, sign four or five max players at a time, and fill out the roster with minimum salary players, increasing disparity in the league even more. But if they don’t have a hard cap at all, like the current system, teams that are willing to pay the luxury tax will always have an advantage when it comes to acquiring players.

Having a soft cap and a higher hard cap ensures that teams will have a hard time pulling off what the Heat did, but at the same time ensures that deep pocketed owners can’t just buy themselves the best players on the market by paying the luxury tax either.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 18th, 2011
7:05 pm

Rev in Tampa

Rev you wild boy! I saw you over on the Orlando Blog stirring up mess.
I loved it, you got ole’ boy Steve all frustrated and stuff.
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Here are some posts from the ESPN Mike & Mike in the Morning Show:
Bruce “Bow-Tie” Bowen said Magic will win series.
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People need to stop trotting out the 2009 team. There are only 4 players left from that team. Nelson, Howard, Turk and Redick. It is a completely different team, but with the same old offense, or lack thereof.

Posted by: tre | Monday, April 18, 2011 at 12:27 PM

I would like to see the Magic put Dwight on Al Horford defensively. Bass/Anderson are overmatched against Horford, but they can defend any of the Hawks’ centers. It’s true this would pull Howard away from the basket some, but I think the positives outweigh the negatives. Horford can’t post up effectively against Dwight, and the Hawks pick and roll with Horford would also be stymied. This could also create cross-match problems for the Hawks on their defensive end.

Posted by: G | Monday, April 18, 2011 at 12:27 PM

I was there Saturday night and I do believe we are the better team and we’ll ultimately win the series but what bothered me most is the lack of effort from everybody but Howard. It’s like they stand back and wait for Howard to do it all. Not a single player other than Howard wants to get dirty on the defensive end. And when they’re not playing defense they get stagnant on offense, the ball doesn’t keep moving and they look like statues out there waiting on Howard.

Posted by: Randy | Monday, April 18, 2011 at 12:57 PM

In reponse to the previous comment “And when they’re not playing defense they get stagnant on offense, the ball doesn’t keep moving and they look like statues out there waiting on Howard ”
ummmm you know why because 9 out of 10 times when the ball goes inside to howard its not going to come out, so I dont blame them for just standing around. I blame dwight and SVG. We do not have any scorers on our time, that can make shots at any time. We have shooters, and shooters need to be involved. Dwight gets double quite a few times and a more times than not he forces the issue. If dwight was a great FT shooter, I wouldnt mind it but unfortunately he’s not. He needs to give his teammates some open looks. He is a capable enough passer.

Posted by: WELLLL | Monday, April 18, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Horford isnt posting up Anderson/Bass much. He is killing them from 10+ feet away. And with Dwight out of the middle, it becomes a layup drill for the rest of the Hawk team.

Posted by: tre | Monday, April 18, 2011 at 4:13 PM

How can we expect any three point shots when the ball is thrown into Howard 90% of the time. We know Howard wants to handle the ball a lotand have a big score, but Van Gundy needs to tell his three point shooters that Howard is not the whole team and that the Magic need their help in order to win.

Posted by: Elwood Phillips | Monday, April 18, 2011 at 4:55 PM

northcyde

April 18th, 2011
7:11 pm

By the way . . . Josh Smith got a total of 1 third-place vote in the Defensive Player of the Year voting. This after finishing 2nd in the voting. Not that he deserved to finish second this year, but one damn vote? That’s it?

LOL @ Andrew Bynum getting a 2nd place vote. Really?

O'Brien

April 18th, 2011
7:11 pm

From ESPN.com;

What’s your take on Hawks-Magic Game 1 and the rest of the series?

Royce Webb, ESPN.com: The upside of not giving a crap about the regular season is that you can surprise a better team when you start playing hard. Sure, the Magic are in some trouble now, but they don’t lose to mediocre teams in the playoffs, and the Hawks don’t beat good teams. So color me skeptical that Game 1 was the pivot point..

Jared Wade, Hardwood Paroxysm: If the Magic can’t win when Dwight Howard puts in a performance like the onslaught he unleashed on Saturday, I’m not sure they have much hope. Last year, when Orlando undressed Atlanta, it seemed a cautionary tale against building a middling team around a “star” like Joe Johnson. Now, the shoe has switched feet and it feels like the Magic are showing us just how short a window title-contending teams have in the modern NBA..

J.M. Poulard, WarriorsWorld: The Hawks plan to give the Magic a run for their money and did a good job in Game 1 of limiting Howard’s teammates. That said, I’m not convinced the Hawks can shoot 51.4 percent from the field for the rest of the series and continue to force the Magic to commit turnovers (18 in Game 1). Atlanta will make it entertaining for seven games, but Orlando’s interior presence will be the difference..

Matt McHale, By the Horns: My take is that Howard’s supporting cast looked (as Charles Barkley would say) turrible. Dwight played about as well as humanly possible (minus his eight turnovers) and the Hawks still controlled the game. If guys like Jason Richardson, Hedo Turkoglu and Gilbert Arenas don’t step up their games, the Magic are finished..

Robert Silverman, KnickerBlogger: If you’re a Hawks fan, you’ve got to be giddy. Howard had possibly the finest game of his career, and still the Georgians managed to prevail. Even though it defies all kinds of statistical analysis, this season Atlanta just feels confident against these cats. Unless someone on the Magic (other than Jameer Nelson) steps up and provides consistent scoring (I’m looking at you, Jason Richardson) and they seriously cut down on their turnovers, this one could be over quickly. .

drmaryb (*_-)

April 18th, 2011
7:28 pm

Peeved!

It appears the reason Howard is so disgruntled about losing convincingly to the Hawks? That exposes the truth about how little he had to do with our butt-whoopin’ last series.

First of all, our game plan was self-defeatist, to say the least. It was horrible to double Dwight, leave the 3pers wide open 4 games srt aight for 48 minutes with all that switching, and we simply quit on ourselves, our fans, our city, our owners, our GM and ultimately – our coaches, not to mention – to a man: each other!

Dwight really isn’t the reason we lost, we didn’t play TWIN (then aka: cheeseburger), but all those shooters killed us and all that perimeter defense was stifling!
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This year, we flipped the script and the switch. We played possum/ropey-dope the last six games of the season and Jameer and Dwight foolishly thought we were dead in the water. Truth be told, JeJe – we were just resting for the real season, (to answer your question from 2 blogs back).

Yep, we came out swinging! Single covered Dwight, (let him get his points and rebounds). Deleted all his perimeter help, (Jameer was penetrating and scoring inside, not hitting 3’s nor the open man). We rendered them, basically 1 dimensional for 3 quarters.

Here’s my point: the Magic perimeter players demolished all our hopes and dreams last season, not Mr. Howard.

It was never about HIM, it was THEM all along. Now, THEM are gone, long gone, and they are not walking through that door.

Not Now – Not Ever.
Game Over! If we win Tuesday night? It’s a wrap!
Take – 2.

Ethan

April 18th, 2011
7:47 pm

Good first game. Now the test is consistency by responding to the adjustments of the Magic in Game 2. This can be a big stepping stone for the Hawks.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 18th, 2011
7:56 pm

It Takes Two!

It takes two to make a thing go right … It takes two to make it out of sight. Should we take game two on the road and come home for
two of three?

Priceless!

One game at a time is the cautionary tale. Get game two and we drive a dagger in the coffin. Magic will be exposed as a fraud, like
The Wizard of Oz behind that curtain pushing them cardboard buttons with colored lights, like Captain Kirk used to do on Star Trek from the
plastic observation deck!

Warp Speed Ahead – Scottie, Nimoy and Spock.
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I got my popcorn and cherry-coke, I’m ready!
The Hawks – Magic is being re-played on NBA TV tomorrow @ 3pm.
I finally get to see game 1. Let’s Go Hawks!

drmaryb (*_-)

April 18th, 2011
7:58 pm

O’Brien

Thanks for posting and sharing those comments. Nice.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 18th, 2011
8:19 pm

TNT!

That TNT Studio got “SWAGG”

KevinM

April 18th, 2011
8:42 pm

Finally, what a difference it makes to win the first game when NO ONE gave the Hawks a chance to win Game 1.
I like the buzz about Howard and questioning his toughness and getting the DPOY award today, you can tell he is not his usual jovial self.
I am guessing the Magic can’t wait to tip the ball off tomorrow night.

KevinM

April 18th, 2011
8:56 pm

Bibby is going to be 2-0 after tonight..talk about a charmed life.

The Game Has Changed

April 18th, 2011
9:02 pm

@KevinM-You cant place last year torture all on Bibby. Thats sad. Orlando entire team had a 3pt shoot out festival on us. Man Please.

Section 303

April 18th, 2011
9:03 pm

Najeh, Yao? The guy is a living, breathing injury. No thanks. He can’t stay healthy. I think he is just too big.

Section 303

April 18th, 2011
9:07 pm

I can’t wait for tomorrow’s game. Keep hearing talking heads wonder about how the Magic will respond to dropping Game 1. I think the more interesting storyline is how will the Hawks respond to Game 1? Will they play with the same smarts and effort? Will they just be happy to get one in Orlando and bail? Do they have a killer instinct and just end Orlando tomorrow?

I love the Hawks in this series. Like I said in a previous blog, doesn’t matter what scheme Van Gundy comes up with. The Magic still play 4 guys that cannot guard anyone on the floor (Redick, Bass, Arenas, Turk). I think you may in lump Anderson in that group, but not sure.

The Game Has Changed

April 18th, 2011
9:10 pm

Im still sitting here waiting for one of you coach bashers to say,”GOOD GAME DREW”. Dont worry Ill do it for you haters. GOOD GAME DREW

Slimjr

April 18th, 2011
9:14 pm

LD= LOTTERY 2012

Slimjr

April 18th, 2011
9:15 pm

YAO= DRINK MORE MILK SON……………….

The Game Has Changed

April 18th, 2011
9:17 pm

Rev in Tampa- You can never give a coaching edge to the losing coach. If you dont have the pieces you have to change your game plan to max the pieces you do have. Its called making adjustments

Slimjr

April 18th, 2011
9:17 pm

SVG IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR SURE, WASN’T HE THE COACH WHO WAS FORCED TO STEP DOWN IN 2006, SO MR. RIELY COULD RALLY THR TROOPS AND WIN THE DARN THING( CHAMPIONSHIP) DOWN IN SOUTH BEACH???????????????????????????? HUH????????????????? REALLY????????????????????YEP….

Slimjr

April 18th, 2011
9:21 pm

“Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard was visibly dejected after Saturday’s 103-93 loss to the Atlanta Hawks, sitting slumped in his chair and staring at the ground while the media was around.

Despite his 46-point scoring outburst, Howard’s team didn’t come close to beating the Hawks in the first game of the playoffs.

And the loss hurt even more because it came at the hands of the Hawks, a team the Magic have dominated in years’ past.

“I was mad because I hate losing – especially to the Hawks,” Howard said on Sunday after practice.

When asked what exactly he meant by saying “especially to the Hawks,” Howard didn’t expand.

“Come on, you know the answer to that,” he answered.”

HEY HOWARD I HOPE YOU AND YOUR BOYS GET SWEPT OUTTA OF ATLANTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARROGANT_____________________________! FILL IN THE BLANKS…………

Slimjr

April 18th, 2011
9:23 pm

IT WAS A NIGHTMARE ON PEACHTREE ST!! (I KNOW PHILLIPS AINT NO WHERE NEAR PEACHTREE)! BUT IT LOOKS GOOD!! LOL

O'Brien

April 18th, 2011
9:26 pm

The Game has Changed,

I gave LD credit. Not only did he come up with a good game plan, he stuck to his guns when the players were lobbying him to double Dwight.

Slimjr

April 18th, 2011
9:32 pm

SVG WAS THE SAME COACH WHOSE TEAM IN THE 08 FINALS LITERALLY THREW AWAY GAME 1 AND 2 LATE IN THE 4TH QUARTERS AND LOST THE FINALS THEY SHOULD HAVE WON????

SVG=OVERRATED BIG TIME……………………

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

April 18th, 2011
9:35 pm

According to this girl I used to talk to from Mt Vernon, GA down in Montgomery County in Southeast Georgia, D12 has alot of family down there and used to visit alot. She said he has a very snobbish, self righteous attitude and is full of himself.

I later found out he had a cousin that played basketball for South Carolina named Dwayne Day from Mt. Vernon…..so I guess she wasnt lying.

I hope we beat these dudes in 4 or 5 and frustrate him to the point he gets kicked out of a game lmao.

Slimjr

April 18th, 2011
9:35 pm

HOWARD HAS LOST 4 OF 5 TO THE HAWKS THIS YEAR!!!!

I’D BE BESIDE MYSELF TOO….. lol

Slimjr

April 18th, 2011
9:36 pm

HOWARDS EGO=LARGER THAN HIS GAME..

Astro Joe

April 18th, 2011
9:42 pm

I think saying “if Yao is healthy” is akin to saying “if Shaq can play 70 games”. Neither is happening at this stage of their collective careers. Yao would be a tremendous 6th man if he is willing to accept such a role.

As usual, we’ll see what happens with the Hawks once they face adversity. It is very clear that when they hit their jump shots and defend well, that they are a formidable team. But that is true of most teams in the playoffs (especially those who have at least a good & healthy roster who have had 3+ years of success). The ultimate evaluation will come if they fall behind in the series.

O'Brien

April 18th, 2011
9:47 pm

KevinM,

2 Bad shooting games from Bibby though.

Game 1: 3-9 from the field, including 2-7 from 3.
Game 2: 2-7 from the field, including 1-5 from 3.

Luckily for him, he is on a team that they can overcome his off games.

AJ,

The ultimate evaluation will come if they fall behind in the series..

Another good evaluation will come when they fall behind in the game (by double digits, for example).

Slimjr

April 18th, 2011
9:49 pm

“rev would you like to lose to a team that plays in the city you grew up in? no! in the first game of the plaoffs? no! change your name as nobody will listen to what you preach home boy.

Carter’s contract could have been used more productively that’s all.

God I hope you’re from so fla, I presume you watch magic games in a trash can considering you seem to be moaning about money. nb you’re dad doesn’t love you”

Reply Posted by: dexter | Monday, April 18, 2011 at 8:56 AM

@ REV,
SIR YOU ARE STIRRING THE POT DOWN THERE IN ORLANDO!!!!!!! LOL

JeJe

April 18th, 2011
10:06 pm

We gotta beat Dwight and Jameer 3 more times this year. Just make sure Hedo and J-Rich don’t go off, and we’ll be fine. I expect Hinrich to be in top form, plus he can rest a bit between these games (all our starters can, since we have 3 days off between games)

I wish we had gotten Adelman a few years ago. According to a source on Hawksquawk, Adelman inquired about the Hawks job, but it was Woody’s to keep

FIRE SUND