Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 1: Why will it be any different this time?
6:30 pm April 16, 2011, by Michael Cunningham
Orlando–That’s the question, isn’t it?
Unless you believe lots of Twin vs. Dwight is going to make up for 101 points of beat down. . . or Orlando vs. Atlanta without VC, Rashard and Gortat is that much worse than Orlando vs. Atlanta with J-Rich and Arenas . . . or L.D. is going to get something out of these players that Woody couldn’t . . . then there has to be something else to explain how the Hawks can win this series.
I’ve said I think the problem with the Hawks isn’t that they are good enough but just aren’t utilized properly or give in too easily, but rather they give in because they realize they are just not good enough. But I could be wrong about that. Maybe “something else” for the Hawks has nothing to do with match ups or lineups or shot selection or L.D.
Perhaps that’s why Hawks coaches included a couple appeals to players’ character among the usual keys on the pregame board:
“Good or bad, go to the next play.”
“Show no weakness or frustration.”
So I asked the Hawks: After what the Magic did to them last spring, why do they believe this series is going to be any different?
- “The biggest lesson is experience,” J.J. said. “We went through that the previous two years. We definitely know what to expect in this first-round series.”
- “I’m not really giving excuses, but there were a lot of guys not healthy last year,” Josh said. “There are no excuses this year. Guys have got to go out there and match their physicality. I think for those four games they controlled the whole game. They were may more physical than us, and it showed. We have got to be able to come out in this series and show these guys we are ready to play.”
- “Our first game down there in the regular season we went there with the mindset, ‘Let’s close the book on last year,’” Twin said.
- “I think we erased that during the regular season,” L.D. said. “With the playoffs being here now, I think our guys have responded to how they played last year vs. Orlando. I think they feel that they are a very capable ball club. Regardless of what happens tonight I don’t think it is going to shatter or waiver our confidence. I think our guys have gotten over the hump as far as what happened to us last year.”
- “It’s a different year,” Zaza said. “They have got different players. We made some changes. Last year is history; this year is what we are dealing with. We are controlling ‘right now.’ We can’t do anything about last year.”
- “It’s completely different,” Al said. “It’s a new year. We are playing a new lineup against them this season and that’s why we feel so confident going into the series.”
- “I don’t even remember what happened last year,” Jamal said. “It’s a totally different year, a totally different team.”
Notes
- Pape Sy, Magnum Rolle and Hilton Armstrong are inactive.
- The word from Orlando media types is Dwight is irritated by the “Twin as Dwight stopper” storyline. “It is what it is,” Dwight said. “None of these people who write these articles are out there playing. They don’t know. We are the ones playing.”
- Twin, meanwhile, says he’s been kind of amused by the sudden interest in what he has to say: “I haven’t seen this much attention since I was playing in the Finals.”
- The tenor of the stories about Twin suggest that people are amazed that he can have any success against Dwight but he notes that he does have a track record: “I’ve had a lot of experience guarding Shaq, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, going up against great post players in the playoffs. This is just another name on the list.”
- L.D. admits that the notion of defending Dwight straight-up probably isn’t sustainable over a seven-game series. “I think it’s important that you do give this team different looks in how you are going to defend Dwight, how you are going to defend any other actions you have to defend. No one can defend Dwight head’s up through a seven-game series. He’s just too big and too strong. I think overall your team concepts, you have to mix them up.”
- Judging by L.D.’s comments over the last couple days, Jamal, Zaza and Marvin are the only bench guys who definitely are part of the rotation. The other bigs are available for Dwight if necessary. As for Teague, Drew said: “We will see how it goes. I hope I can get him in there because he did a good job in the last few games.”
- Teague, comparing this year to last year’s playoffs: “There’s a possibility I actually might get in the game this year. Other than that, [I] just prepare for it like any other game.”
- Joe on if playing less minutes and coasting over the final four games will benefit the Hawks: “That’s the plan. Hopefully it does. Regardless of that, I am ready to play. I just think it’s time that we answer the challenge. We all should be ready.”
- J.J. Redick is active after missing the final 17 games with an abdominal injury. “We will play him like we normally would off the bench,” Stan Van Gundy said. “When J-Rich goes out, he will go in. How much he plays, he is going to have to figure that out and so am I and figure out where his conditioning is at.”
- As you might expect, the Magic don’t put much stock in the regular-season series: “It’s all different now,” Van Gundy said. “It doesn’t really matter.” Said Dwight: “The regular season is over with. It’s a new ball game.”
- Van Gundy does acknowledge that the Twin lineup has altered things: “They have played us bigger. They’ve defended us really well. We’ve got to attack them better and different. “
- AJC wise guy Jeff Schultz is chatting during the game.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
838 comments Add your comment
Rev in Tampa
April 16th, 2011
8:04 pm
Well, so far the Hawks are surviving the Jamal effect. I was worried that having Jamal on the court would open up the jumpshooting for the Magic.
Maybe the Hawks can ‘rope-a-dope’ Howard into wearing him out for the second half, but the big men MUST start fouling him hard.
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
8:04 pm
way to feel and spin AL!!!!
O'Brien
April 16th, 2011
8:05 pm
Brandon,
I also think Al should be on Dwight.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
8:05 pm
Good post move by Al — a move on which he did not get double teamed.
northcyde
April 16th, 2011
8:05 pm
His best low post move this season.
Rev in Tampa
April 16th, 2011
8:05 pm
Al should be doing to Bass what dwight is doing to the hawks
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
8:05 pm
good d P!!!!
BIG SHOT CRAWFORD
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
8:05 pm
^^Not taking away from how impressive the post move was, just pointing out the lack of a double team in regards to the earlier conversation on the subject.
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
8:05 pm
30 point half for DH is embarrasing.
Brandon
April 16th, 2011
8:05 pm
There’s a post-up, finally. We could be doing that all night long, just like Hubie is saying. The problem is that coach Disgrace is too stupid to realize that.
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
8:06 pm
see Al can come help there.. Dwight didnt plan on passing.. instead he slaps @ him like a girl..
GO GET DIRTY AL!!!!!
Rev in Tampa
April 16th, 2011
8:06 pm
Josh powell is worthless
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
8:06 pm
“30 point half for DH is embarrasing.”
Doesn’t matter if the rest of the Magic don’t score. I don’t mind this at all. I just wish they wouldn’t give up and-1’s to Dwight. If he’s within two feet of the basket and some scrub like Powell is guarding him, he should hack the sh-t out of him and make him shoot 2.
O'Brien
April 16th, 2011
8:06 pm
Glad to see Jamal and Joe combine for 22 in the first half.
If they can give us another 22 in the second half, we’ll be ok.
But why wont LD put Al on Dwight? al has ZERO fouls right now.
cp
April 16th, 2011
8:06 pm
Joe and Jamal have it going but damn get Powell out of there
Buddy Grizzard
April 16th, 2011
8:06 pm
KH nice touch pass for the white people to Jamal.
J.J.M
April 16th, 2011
8:06 pm
man if howard wasnt having this game it would be a blow out
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
8:07 pm
good post up by AL…..KEEP DOING IT DUDE………….
James on Pharr Rd
April 16th, 2011
8:07 pm
I’d let Dwight go for 30 every game-but lock down every other player, just like the Celtics play the Magic. But, quite with the layups guys.And LD should be decisive with his substitutions-he takes too long to make the obvious adjustments.
AL looking real good
Brandon
April 16th, 2011
8:07 pm
“Al should be doing to Bass what dwight is doing to the hawks”
Tell that to coach Disgrace. Everyone other than coach Disgrace seems to understand our interior advantages. It’s too bad Hubie doesn’t coach anymore. He would do wonders with this team. He actually knows what works and how to utilize player strengths.
Melvin
April 16th, 2011
8:07 pm
Dwight is getting away with murder and the Refs are his partners in crime….
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
8:07 pm
unbelievable.. you have 0 fouls.. 0.
you can come show harder than that.. stop letting Dwight punk your whole front line..
im sorry folks but ive seen Josh make better efforts on Dwight.
brigadierjerry
April 16th, 2011
8:07 pm
I think you have to play Howard the way good defensive teams used to play the Bulls with Jordan. You know he is going to get his the key is to stop everyone else
Worldwide Clyde
April 16th, 2011
8:08 pm
I say let Howard continue to score. Atleast we’re not getting blown out.
Brad
April 16th, 2011
8:08 pm
Tooooo many and-1’s for howard
lewis
April 16th, 2011
8:08 pm
collins is the only one who can draw fouls
James on Pharr Rd
April 16th, 2011
8:09 pm
“30 point half for DH is embarrasing.”
Doesn’t matter if……”
Its all good if he gets his points, just quite with the layups and and-1’s please. HACK HACK. Thats why I like ZAZA STYLE
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
8:09 pm
I think the Hawks can do what they are doing now with Al on Dwight — that is, give up tons of points to Dwight while staying at home on the perimeter shooters. In fact, that’s what they should have done last year in the playoffs and what they did do for big chunks of the game they won last March against them (the Smoove putback dunk at the buzzer game). But I think it would be better to save Al’s fouls for later in the game and allow him to carry the Hawks offensively now, so that when he has to exert energy on defense the offensive load can shift to someone else. I wouldn’t want to disrupt his offensive rhythm.
northcyde
April 16th, 2011
8:09 pm
So if we need Hilton Armstrong in this series for an extra body, which guy do you not dress out?
- Powell
- Wilkins
- Teague
???
Brandon
April 16th, 2011
8:09 pm
I can’t believe that Al still doesn’t have a single rebound. He sure picked a bad time to go be invisible on the glass. This is unbelievable. I can’t remember the last time Al went this long without a rebound. Get on the glass, Al!
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
8:09 pm
ahhh..
a miss.. he’ll go on a streak now..
Sleepy
April 16th, 2011
8:09 pm
James how do you know jamal is breaking set plays on Offense ? and hes tied for the lead on both teams in assists and his defense hasnt been nearly as bad as you are describing . You got the whiny wife syndrome one mistake and you are all over his defense as if nobody on the squad has made a defensive error tonight ….well except Kirk lol
northcyde
April 16th, 2011
8:10 pm
Great move by JJ . . .
Rev in Tampa
April 16th, 2011
8:10 pm
Still cant believe that Powell is still in the game
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
8:10 pm
Joe game is silky right now..
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
8:10 pm
Nice take by Joe. Way to throw that floater over Dwight’s hands. Be aggressive. Dwight is great but he is not an immovable object.
northcyde
April 16th, 2011
8:10 pm
Smart basketball
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
8:10 pm
Al draws the foul on Bass with a strong move. Once again, no double team.
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
8:10 pm
Bass is a tree.
tom
April 16th, 2011
8:10 pm
who are these hawks?
Melvin
April 16th, 2011
8:11 pm
Al needs to work on his post moves this offseason…
cp
April 16th, 2011
8:11 pm
Joe hasnt looked this good since that Bucks game
Rev in Tampa
April 16th, 2011
8:11 pm
Iso-AL!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
8:11 pm
“So if we need Hilton Armstrong in this series for an extra body, which guy do you not dress out?
- Powell
- Wilkins
- Teague”
I think if you are bringing Marvin off the bench to begin with, Damien becomes the odd man out.
Brandon
April 16th, 2011
8:11 pm
“He’s too big and he’s too strong for Bass…This is what I want to see” – Hubie on Al vs. Bass. We should be milking this matchup along with Josh vs. Turk and Al vs. Anderson. If only coach Disgrace wasn’t so stupid.
2 FOR JOHN DREW
April 16th, 2011
8:11 pm
@ Sleepy
If JSmoove ever realizes when others are scoring there are other things he can do to be effective & produtive. But it seems as if he gets jealous or something .
J.J.M
April 16th, 2011
8:11 pm
clos the quarter out
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
8:12 pm
On that previous drive by Joe, too, I don’t know who set the screen for him (Al maybe?) but it was a damn good one and really freed up that lane for Joe.
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
8:12 pm
P giving all he has defensively.. way to get in there and battle..
O'Brien
April 16th, 2011
8:12 pm
northcyde,
I would deactivate Powell. We have Al, Josh and Marvin who can all play PF. But we need all hands on deck at Center, especially since LD wont let Al guard Dwight.