Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 1: Why will it be any different this time?
6:30 pm April 16, 2011, by Michael Cunningham
Orlando–That’s the question, isn’t it?
Unless you believe lots of Twin vs. Dwight is going to make up for 101 points of beat down. . . or Orlando vs. Atlanta without VC, Rashard and Gortat is that much worse than Orlando vs. Atlanta with J-Rich and Arenas . . . or L.D. is going to get something out of these players that Woody couldn’t . . . then there has to be something else to explain how the Hawks can win this series.
I’ve said I think the problem with the Hawks isn’t that they are good enough but just aren’t utilized properly or give in too easily, but rather they give in because they realize they are just not good enough. But I could be wrong about that. Maybe “something else” for the Hawks has nothing to do with match ups or lineups or shot selection or L.D.
Perhaps that’s why Hawks coaches included a couple appeals to players’ character among the usual keys on the pregame board:
“Good or bad, go to the next play.”
“Show no weakness or frustration.”
So I asked the Hawks: After what the Magic did to them last spring, why do they believe this series is going to be any different?
- “The biggest lesson is experience,” J.J. said. “We went through that the previous two years. We definitely know what to expect in this first-round series.”
- “I’m not really giving excuses, but there were a lot of guys not healthy last year,” Josh said. “There are no excuses this year. Guys have got to go out there and match their physicality. I think for those four games they controlled the whole game. They were may more physical than us, and it showed. We have got to be able to come out in this series and show these guys we are ready to play.”
- “Our first game down there in the regular season we went there with the mindset, ‘Let’s close the book on last year,’” Twin said.
- “I think we erased that during the regular season,” L.D. said. “With the playoffs being here now, I think our guys have responded to how they played last year vs. Orlando. I think they feel that they are a very capable ball club. Regardless of what happens tonight I don’t think it is going to shatter or waiver our confidence. I think our guys have gotten over the hump as far as what happened to us last year.”
- “It’s a different year,” Zaza said. “They have got different players. We made some changes. Last year is history; this year is what we are dealing with. We are controlling ‘right now.’ We can’t do anything about last year.”
- “It’s completely different,” Al said. “It’s a new year. We are playing a new lineup against them this season and that’s why we feel so confident going into the series.”
- “I don’t even remember what happened last year,” Jamal said. “It’s a totally different year, a totally different team.”
Notes
- Pape Sy, Magnum Rolle and Hilton Armstrong are inactive.
- The word from Orlando media types is Dwight is irritated by the “Twin as Dwight stopper” storyline. “It is what it is,” Dwight said. “None of these people who write these articles are out there playing. They don’t know. We are the ones playing.”
- Twin, meanwhile, says he’s been kind of amused by the sudden interest in what he has to say: “I haven’t seen this much attention since I was playing in the Finals.”
- The tenor of the stories about Twin suggest that people are amazed that he can have any success against Dwight but he notes that he does have a track record: “I’ve had a lot of experience guarding Shaq, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, going up against great post players in the playoffs. This is just another name on the list.”
- L.D. admits that the notion of defending Dwight straight-up probably isn’t sustainable over a seven-game series. “I think it’s important that you do give this team different looks in how you are going to defend Dwight, how you are going to defend any other actions you have to defend. No one can defend Dwight head’s up through a seven-game series. He’s just too big and too strong. I think overall your team concepts, you have to mix them up.”
- Judging by L.D.’s comments over the last couple days, Jamal, Zaza and Marvin are the only bench guys who definitely are part of the rotation. The other bigs are available for Dwight if necessary. As for Teague, Drew said: “We will see how it goes. I hope I can get him in there because he did a good job in the last few games.”
- Teague, comparing this year to last year’s playoffs: “There’s a possibility I actually might get in the game this year. Other than that, [I] just prepare for it like any other game.”
- Joe on if playing less minutes and coasting over the final four games will benefit the Hawks: “That’s the plan. Hopefully it does. Regardless of that, I am ready to play. I just think it’s time that we answer the challenge. We all should be ready.”
- J.J. Redick is active after missing the final 17 games with an abdominal injury. “We will play him like we normally would off the bench,” Stan Van Gundy said. “When J-Rich goes out, he will go in. How much he plays, he is going to have to figure that out and so am I and figure out where his conditioning is at.”
- As you might expect, the Magic don’t put much stock in the regular-season series: “It’s all different now,” Van Gundy said. “It doesn’t really matter.” Said Dwight: “The regular season is over with. It’s a new ball game.”
- Van Gundy does acknowledge that the Twin lineup has altered things: “They have played us bigger. They’ve defended us really well. We’ve got to attack them better and different. “
- AJC wise guy Jeff Schultz is chatting during the game.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
838 comments Add your comment
Buddy Grizzard
April 16th, 2011
7:46 pm
Joe just made Hedo look stupid.
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
7:46 pm
AL @ center= Orlando by 20…………
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
7:46 pm
“This is partially because coach disgrace has Al playing 18+ feet from the basket waiting for a pass for a spot up shot instead of roaming around inside looking for offensive boards.”
whats the excuse on the defensive glass?
J.J.M
April 16th, 2011
7:46 pm
what is hubie talking about? josh is the only athletic person on the team
northcyde
April 16th, 2011
7:47 pm
Brandon . . rebounding is about effort and position. It’s Horford’s job to get in position to get rebounds.
Brandon
April 16th, 2011
7:47 pm
Hubie is sounding like an expert, he’s pointing out everything that is wrong with the team and indirectly taking shots at Coach disgrace. I’m loving it. I’m just glad that someone is finally saying it on national television. Hubie isn’t afraid to call guys out.
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
7:47 pm
Call them Hawks out HUBIE!!!!! You gotta love him…
Worldwide Clyde
April 16th, 2011
7:47 pm
28th in blocks 29th in steals and 29th in forced turnovers. Good stats Hubie. Nique would never point that out.
northcyde
April 16th, 2011
7:47 pm
Wow . . . Powell gets in, while Teague rots on the bench.
Mark this point in the game.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:47 pm
Smoove with 2 fouls. LD goes with Powell over Damien.
Buddy Grizzard
April 16th, 2011
7:47 pm
JOSH f’ing POWEL???
Worst player on our bench.
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
7:47 pm
LD will regret sitting Josh.
step up Powell..
Ole Hawks Fan
April 16th, 2011
7:47 pm
NBA Refs are the WORST in PRO SPORTS calling Da Game!
hawks_4_life
April 16th, 2011
7:48 pm
LD is using his bench
Wabe
April 16th, 2011
7:48 pm
Smoove can have 4 boards.
he’s accounted for at least 4 wasted possessions in that 1st quarter too.
Ole Hawks Fan
April 16th, 2011
7:48 pm
attack Howard on Offense…….Get him in FOUL Trouble. Arenas is playing Marvin?
Worldwide Clyde
April 16th, 2011
7:48 pm
FIRE NIQUE
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
7:48 pm
even Marvin can attract a double team from the post..
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
7:49 pm
‘28th in blocks 29th in steals and 29th in forced turnovers,24th in rebounding!!!!!”
That why the Hawks are done one and done
J.J.M
April 16th, 2011
7:49 pm
bad coachingggggg
Melvin
April 16th, 2011
7:49 pm
Take Jamal out….
northcyde
April 16th, 2011
7:49 pm
Hubie makes a good point . . but that’s when it comes to leadership. If Horford wants to be the leader of this team, he has to take on the challenge to guard Howard at some point. You can’t let other people keep getting abused, when you can just say “Coach . .let me get him”.
JJ wouldn’t shy away from that challenge defensively.
Great drive by Marvin. Stay aggressive.
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
April 16th, 2011
7:49 pm
nice drive
Brandon
April 16th, 2011
7:49 pm
“whats the excuse on the defensive glass?”
A combination of lack of effort and the fact that Al is guarding perimeter-oriented players.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:49 pm
““This is partially because coach disgrace has Al playing 18+ feet from the basket waiting for a pass for a spot up shot instead of roaming around inside looking for offensive boards.””
Funny how when me and bigdave make the same excuse for Smoove taking jumpers people call us out for it.
Of course LD is more responsible for this team’s problems than anyone else. But is LD’s system not also responsible for Smoove being 18 feet away from the basket, particularly when he’s playing SF?
Rev in Tampa
April 16th, 2011
7:49 pm
can anyone on the hawks spell ‘boxout’?
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
7:49 pm
who wants to grab a defensive rebound?
Worldwide Clyde
April 16th, 2011
7:50 pm
Sean Williams would have blocked Howard out on that put back dunk
Buddy Grizzard
April 16th, 2011
7:50 pm
Hubie Brown one of the best minds in the sport of basketball… With Doug Collins back on the sidelines, probably the best basketball analyst doing color on tv.
glw
April 16th, 2011
7:50 pm
Arenas is checking Marvin because he is a liability on defense, but Marvin is a liability on offense.
superiorblogman
April 16th, 2011
7:50 pm
Jamal Crawford and Larry Drew currently killing the Hawks chances
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:51 pm
“he’s accounted for at least 4 wasted possessions in that 1st quarter too.”
Without question. It was promising to see him finally score on Turk inside late in the quarter, though… maybe this means he will continue to go inside.
glw
April 16th, 2011
7:51 pm
Shouldnt Hilton who is 7′0 be active over Powell?
O'Brien
April 16th, 2011
7:51 pm
Guys,
Lets not forget that only one player on the court has championship rings. And thats Josh Powell.
Make them kiss the rings, Josh
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
7:51 pm
Hawks want to start summer vacation earlier this year….Hang in there they will fulfill that want real soon……Yawn………….
cp
April 16th, 2011
7:51 pm
Joe is playing well but I hate having Jamal at the point. Its not his game but LD somehow hasnt realized that all year
northcyde
April 16th, 2011
7:51 pm
Horford has no fouls and no rebounds.
At some point, he’s going to have to get his hands dirty.
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
7:52 pm
OB..
lol..
J.J.M
April 16th, 2011
7:52 pm
I want to see some driving in the paint but thats asking for too much huh
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
7:52 pm
dirty..?
pfffffffff…
it aint in him.
Brandon
April 16th, 2011
7:52 pm
“‘28th in blocks 29th in steals and 29th in forced turnovers,24th in rebounding!!!!!””
You can thank coach Disgrace for this. Hubie assessed the problem beautifully. The Hawks have advantages all around the floor with size and athleticism using this lineup, yet they are failing to utilize any of their strengths in this system. Who does that fall on? Coach Disgrace. We are not going to beat any playoff team by using everyone on the floor outside of Joe and Jamal as a spot-up shooter. Also, putting Powell on Dwight is just plain stupidity. Coach Disgrace strikes again.
Sleepy
April 16th, 2011
7:52 pm
If we had Frye ,Troy Murphy and Ryan Anderson this offense would be deadly . But with our athleticism its very troublesome that when a guard is penetrating our bigs are looking for the jumpshot instead of the lob or the drop off .
But that mindset comes from the coach and it starts in training camp
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:52 pm
“Shouldnt Hilton who is 7′0 be active over Powell?”
I was thinking the same thing. Not that Hilton is much better of a player, but it’s a little surprising to see LD go with the shorter guy.
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
7:53 pm
0 fouls.. i wonder if he’ll challenge someone @ the rim today..
J.J.M
April 16th, 2011
7:53 pm
lmao adam morrison also has nba rings
Wabe
April 16th, 2011
7:53 pm
Najeh,
Here’s the deal with that point you make regarding Smith playing away from the hoop.
Horford can successfully hit shots at a high clip from beyond 10 ft. out. Josh at this point should know he can’t. Yet, he still insists on taking those shots.
No doubt coach has something to do with it. But, it goes back to having an identity. Whether you like Horford’s game or not, he knows what he’s capable of, and he plays within himself. Josh doesn’t. He stays perimeter when its obvious to everybody watching him that he needs to attack inside. Play within yourself.
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
7:53 pm
“Horford has no fouls and no rebounds.”
COME ON ALLSTAR AL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF??????????????????????????
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
7:53 pm
big shot..
Brad
April 16th, 2011
7:53 pm
Horford is excellent at making those end of shot clock jumpers
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:54 pm
No resistance inside with Powell and Al at PF and C. Magic getting whatever they want. At some point LD is going to have to suck it up and play someone with 2 fouls.