Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 1: Why will it be any different this time?
6:30 pm April 16, 2011, by Michael Cunningham
Orlando–That’s the question, isn’t it?
Unless you believe lots of Twin vs. Dwight is going to make up for 101 points of beat down. . . or Orlando vs. Atlanta without VC, Rashard and Gortat is that much worse than Orlando vs. Atlanta with J-Rich and Arenas . . . or L.D. is going to get something out of these players that Woody couldn’t . . . then there has to be something else to explain how the Hawks can win this series.
I’ve said I think the problem with the Hawks isn’t that they are good enough but just aren’t utilized properly or give in too easily, but rather they give in because they realize they are just not good enough. But I could be wrong about that. Maybe “something else” for the Hawks has nothing to do with match ups or lineups or shot selection or L.D.
Perhaps that’s why Hawks coaches included a couple appeals to players’ character among the usual keys on the pregame board:
“Good or bad, go to the next play.”
“Show no weakness or frustration.”
So I asked the Hawks: After what the Magic did to them last spring, why do they believe this series is going to be any different?
- “The biggest lesson is experience,” J.J. said. “We went through that the previous two years. We definitely know what to expect in this first-round series.”
- “I’m not really giving excuses, but there were a lot of guys not healthy last year,” Josh said. “There are no excuses this year. Guys have got to go out there and match their physicality. I think for those four games they controlled the whole game. They were may more physical than us, and it showed. We have got to be able to come out in this series and show these guys we are ready to play.”
- “Our first game down there in the regular season we went there with the mindset, ‘Let’s close the book on last year,’” Twin said.
- “I think we erased that during the regular season,” L.D. said. “With the playoffs being here now, I think our guys have responded to how they played last year vs. Orlando. I think they feel that they are a very capable ball club. Regardless of what happens tonight I don’t think it is going to shatter or waiver our confidence. I think our guys have gotten over the hump as far as what happened to us last year.”
- “It’s a different year,” Zaza said. “They have got different players. We made some changes. Last year is history; this year is what we are dealing with. We are controlling ‘right now.’ We can’t do anything about last year.”
- “It’s completely different,” Al said. “It’s a new year. We are playing a new lineup against them this season and that’s why we feel so confident going into the series.”
- “I don’t even remember what happened last year,” Jamal said. “It’s a totally different year, a totally different team.”
Notes
- Pape Sy, Magnum Rolle and Hilton Armstrong are inactive.
- The word from Orlando media types is Dwight is irritated by the “Twin as Dwight stopper” storyline. “It is what it is,” Dwight said. “None of these people who write these articles are out there playing. They don’t know. We are the ones playing.”
- Twin, meanwhile, says he’s been kind of amused by the sudden interest in what he has to say: “I haven’t seen this much attention since I was playing in the Finals.”
- The tenor of the stories about Twin suggest that people are amazed that he can have any success against Dwight but he notes that he does have a track record: “I’ve had a lot of experience guarding Shaq, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, going up against great post players in the playoffs. This is just another name on the list.”
- L.D. admits that the notion of defending Dwight straight-up probably isn’t sustainable over a seven-game series. “I think it’s important that you do give this team different looks in how you are going to defend Dwight, how you are going to defend any other actions you have to defend. No one can defend Dwight head’s up through a seven-game series. He’s just too big and too strong. I think overall your team concepts, you have to mix them up.”
- Judging by L.D.’s comments over the last couple days, Jamal, Zaza and Marvin are the only bench guys who definitely are part of the rotation. The other bigs are available for Dwight if necessary. As for Teague, Drew said: “We will see how it goes. I hope I can get him in there because he did a good job in the last few games.”
- Teague, comparing this year to last year’s playoffs: “There’s a possibility I actually might get in the game this year. Other than that, [I] just prepare for it like any other game.”
- Joe on if playing less minutes and coasting over the final four games will benefit the Hawks: “That’s the plan. Hopefully it does. Regardless of that, I am ready to play. I just think it’s time that we answer the challenge. We all should be ready.”
- J.J. Redick is active after missing the final 17 games with an abdominal injury. “We will play him like we normally would off the bench,” Stan Van Gundy said. “When J-Rich goes out, he will go in. How much he plays, he is going to have to figure that out and so am I and figure out where his conditioning is at.”
- As you might expect, the Magic don’t put much stock in the regular-season series: “It’s all different now,” Van Gundy said. “It doesn’t really matter.” Said Dwight: “The regular season is over with. It’s a new ball game.”
- Van Gundy does acknowledge that the Twin lineup has altered things: “They have played us bigger. They’ve defended us really well. We’ve got to attack them better and different. “
- AJC wise guy Jeff Schultz is chatting during the game.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
838 comments Add your comment
cp
April 16th, 2011
7:39 pm
Josh is struggling. He needs to get his head in the game
Rev in Tampa
April 16th, 2011
7:39 pm
Orlando up by one = the Jamal effect
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:39 pm
Arenas mugged Marvin, no foul…
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:39 pm
There you go Smoove.
Buddy Grizzard
April 16th, 2011
7:39 pm
Jameer into the lane at will against KH
Wabe
April 16th, 2011
7:39 pm
Bout time…
Where’s LD’s offense at?
J.J.M
April 16th, 2011
7:39 pm
lmao hubie is too funny
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
April 16th, 2011
7:39 pm
Amen Hubie
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
7:40 pm
Hubbie keep callin out JOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Rev in Tampa
April 16th, 2011
7:40 pm
Get etan out of the game if howard is on the bench
O'Brien
April 16th, 2011
7:40 pm
First one to 85 wins? Glad to see Josh make a shot.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:40 pm
That quarter wasn’t even that bad, and yet Orlando still leads. Not a good sign for the Hawks.
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
April 16th, 2011
7:40 pm
Magic played horrible and are winning smh
cp
April 16th, 2011
7:40 pm
come on Marvin smh
Worldwide Clyde
April 16th, 2011
7:40 pm
No way the Magic should have the lead.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:40 pm
Also, it’s still early, but after one quarter, Smoove at SF has 4 boards while Al at PF has zero.
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
7:41 pm
yea Al is sooooo dangerous in the post..
thats why when Dwight set we went straight to him inside.
oh wait.. who just took that 3?
O'Brien
April 16th, 2011
7:41 pm
Hubie points out that Arenas is guarding Marvin in the post.
This is what Rod from C.P. is always talking about. other teams put smaller guys on Marvin a lot.
Brad
April 16th, 2011
7:41 pm
Meh close quarter. If we can start attacking some of these mismatches we can be OK
J.J.M
April 16th, 2011
7:41 pm
hubie must dont know marvin cant posy up thats why we are not posting him up against arenas
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
7:41 pm
Thats it, Orlando won the 1st quarter playing like Crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its a wrap now………………..
superiorblogman
April 16th, 2011
7:41 pm
More of the same. Jamal is not a PG so he could care less that Marvin, Al, and Josh all have mismatches, but its not his fault.
Fire Larry Drew NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
7:41 pm
*sat
Brandon
April 16th, 2011
7:41 pm
I love what Hubie is saying. He’s telling it like it is, calling out the Hawks and coach disgrace for their stupid style of play. He’s been saying all game long that Horford and Smith should be attacking inside and using their advantages and criticizing the team’s inability to recognize mismatches in the post. I hope coach disgrace hears this and the world realizes what a mockery he is. Hopefully, he gets fired following the playoffs. That’s the best likely scenario that this team could experience at this point.
lewis
April 16th, 2011
7:41 pm
Jamal is doing nothing
O'Brien
April 16th, 2011
7:41 pm
Najeh,
Hinrich also has 3 rebs
Wabe
April 16th, 2011
7:42 pm
it’s atlanta’s so-called motion offense. we went out on a 15-7 lead…
and ended up scoring like 2 points since.
they’ve made it clear. they’re doubling al and jj. they’re not gonna let those two beat them.
so, now it’s time to see someone other than those two step up.
aka josh smith? you’ve got a sf on you in the post. get to work.
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
7:42 pm
Marvin too weak to post up smaller guys….#2 buster…………………….
northcyde
April 16th, 2011
7:42 pm
Disappointing that we’re down 2 in this game, with Orlando shooting 33%
J from the A
April 16th, 2011
7:42 pm
For those of us that didn’t know it already: Etan is horrible!
[We should all already know this, but after his "performance" in the last game of the regular season, fellow bloggers seemed to think he might be a capable player.]
Buddy Grizzard
April 16th, 2011
7:42 pm
Orlando has exactly one interior defender of any significance… Dwight Howard… Josh has already drawn one foul on Dwight going inside. If the Hawks pound the ball inside to Josh and Al and get Dwight in foul trouble, game over. Simple game plan… way over LD’s head.
Worldwide Clyde
April 16th, 2011
7:42 pm
Marvin Williams needs to stay on the bench
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:43 pm
“Hinrich also has 3 rebs”
Yeah, I thought Kirk played pretty well on the whole, even though he gave up a couple of drives to Nelson and threw a bad post entry pass to Al.
hawks_4_life
April 16th, 2011
7:43 pm
Cant really say LD is doing a bad job, he is actually using the bench.
J from the A
April 16th, 2011
7:43 pm
Buddy Grizzard
April 16th, 2011
7:39 pm
“Jameer into the lane at will against KH”
Not once!
Sleepy
April 16th, 2011
7:44 pm
Marvin and Josh need to pick up there play offensively
J.J.M
April 16th, 2011
7:44 pm
about time
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:44 pm
There you go Hawks, finally recognizing the post mismatch. Even Nique managed to notice it before the Hawks did.
lewis
April 16th, 2011
7:44 pm
get marvin involved he matches up well with orlando
Wabe
April 16th, 2011
7:44 pm
can’t fault al for that 3 bigdave.
everybody knows at the end of clock situations, jamal goes exclusively one on one. so what does everybody else do? get out the way.
this time, jamal dished it. al found himself on the perimeter.
and truthfully, i don’t care if horford isn’t as good in the post as people want him to be. there’s a reason he and jj the one getting doubled.
Brandon
April 16th, 2011
7:44 pm
“Also, it’s still early, but after one quarter, Smoove at SF has 4 boards while Al at PF has zero.”
This is partially because coach disgrace has Al playing 18+ feet from the basket waiting for a pass for a spot up shot instead of roaming around inside looking for offensive boards. Coach disgrace is the center of almost all problems with this team. Sure, the roster is flawed, but all teams are flawed. Coach disgrace fails to make the most of what we have, the way other good coaches have done (e.g. Frank Vogel, Doug Collins, Monty Williams) with subpar rosters.
bigdave
April 16th, 2011
7:44 pm
same play next time down..
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:45 pm
Al at center to start the 2nd.
J.J.M
April 16th, 2011
7:45 pm
of course crawford misses
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
7:45 pm
Allstar AL aint an Allstar PF!! Thats for sure…………………….
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
7:45 pm
Another quick, decisive move by Joe to pick up the foul.
northcyde
April 16th, 2011
7:45 pm
Great defense by JJ on Redick, caused that turnover.
Then a very good aggressive move to the hole 2 possessions later.
O'Brien
April 16th, 2011
7:46 pm
Hawks started out 6-9 from the field. They finish the quarter missing 11 of their next 13.
And Hubie talking about the running game again. We are supposed to be very althletic, but yet we are 29th in FTA.
And Mike saying Hawks are very talented individually, but they dont play well as a team.
Wabe
April 16th, 2011
7:46 pm
the hawks offense is what we saw in the regular season. we’ve seen it for 82 games. why anybody would expect these guys to start going into the post and playing so much differently/better now…
idk
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
April 16th, 2011
7:46 pm
Tirico and Hubie goin in lmao