Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 1: Why will it be any different this time?

Orlando–That’s the question, isn’t it?

Unless you believe lots of Twin vs. Dwight is going to make up for 101 points of beat down. . . or Orlando vs. Atlanta without VC, Rashard and Gortat is that much worse than Orlando vs. Atlanta with J-Rich and Arenas . . . or L.D. is going to get something out of these players that Woody couldn’t . . . then there has to be something else to explain how the Hawks can win this series.

I’ve said I think the problem with the Hawks isn’t that they are good enough but just aren’t utilized properly or give in too easily, but rather they give in because they realize they are just not good enough. But I could be wrong about that. Maybe “something else” for the Hawks has nothing to do with match ups or lineups or shot selection or L.D.

Perhaps that’s why Hawks coaches included a couple appeals to players’ character among the usual keys on the pregame board:

“Good or bad, go to the next play.”

“Show no weakness or frustration.”

So I asked the Hawks: After what the Magic did to them last spring, why do they believe this series is going to be any different?

  • “The biggest lesson is experience,” J.J. said. “We went through that the previous two years. We definitely know what to expect in this first-round series.”
  • “I’m not really giving excuses, but there were a lot of guys not healthy last year,” Josh said. “There are no excuses this year. Guys have got to go out there and match their physicality. I think for those four games they controlled the whole game. They were may more physical than us, and it showed. We have got to be able to come out in this series and show these guys we are ready to play.”
  • “Our first game down there in the regular season we went there with the mindset, ‘Let’s close the book on last year,’” Twin said.
  • “I think we erased that during the regular season,” L.D. said. “With the playoffs being here now, I think our guys have responded to how they played last year vs. Orlando. I think they feel that they are a very capable ball club. Regardless of what happens tonight I don’t think it is going to shatter or waiver our confidence. I think our guys have gotten over the hump as far as what happened to us last year.”
  • “It’s a different year,” Zaza said. “They have got different players. We made some changes. Last year is history; this year is what we are dealing with. We are controlling ‘right now.’ We can’t do anything about last year.”
  • “It’s completely different,” Al said. “It’s a new year. We are playing a new lineup against them this season and that’s why we feel so confident going into the series.”
  • “I don’t even remember what happened last year,” Jamal said. “It’s a totally different year, a totally different team.”

Notes

  • Pape Sy, Magnum Rolle and Hilton Armstrong are inactive.
  • The word from Orlando media types is Dwight is irritated by the “Twin as Dwight stopper” storyline. “It is what it is,” Dwight said. “None of these people who write these articles are out there playing. They don’t know. We are the ones playing.”
  • Twin, meanwhile, says he’s been kind of amused by the sudden interest in what he has to say: “I haven’t seen this much attention since I was playing in the Finals.”
  • The tenor of the stories about Twin suggest that people are amazed that he can have any success against Dwight but he notes that he does have a track record: “I’ve had a lot of experience guarding Shaq, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, going up against great post players in the playoffs. This is just another name on the list.”
  • L.D. admits that the notion of defending Dwight straight-up probably isn’t sustainable over a seven-game series. “I think it’s important that you do give this team different looks in how you are going to defend Dwight, how you are going to defend any other actions you have to defend. No one can defend Dwight head’s up through a seven-game series. He’s just too big and too strong. I think overall your team concepts, you have to mix them up.”
  • Judging by L.D.’s comments over the last couple days, Jamal, Zaza and Marvin are the only bench guys who definitely are part of the rotation. The other bigs are available for Dwight if necessary. As for Teague, Drew said: “We will see how it goes. I hope I can get him in there because he did a good job in the last few games.”
  • Teague, comparing this year to last year’s playoffs: “There’s a possibility I actually might get in the game this year. Other than that, [I] just prepare for it like any other game.”
  • Joe on if playing less minutes and coasting over the final four games will benefit the Hawks: “That’s the plan. Hopefully it does. Regardless of that, I am ready to play. I just think it’s time that we answer the challenge. We all should be ready.”
  • J.J. Redick is active after missing the final 17 games with an abdominal injury. “We will play him like we normally would off the bench,” Stan Van Gundy said. “When J-Rich goes out, he will go in. How much he plays, he is going to have to figure that out and so am I and figure out where his conditioning is at.”
  • As you might expect, the Magic don’t put much stock in the regular-season series: “It’s all different now,” Van Gundy said. “It doesn’t really matter.” Said Dwight: “The regular season is over with. It’s a new ball game.”
  • Van Gundy does acknowledge that the Twin lineup has altered things: “They have played us bigger. They’ve defended us really well. We’ve got to attack them better and different. “
  • AJC wise guy Jeff Schultz is chatting during the game.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

838 comments Add your comment

Najeh Davenpoop

April 16th, 2011
7:28 pm

Nice crossover by Kirk, but that floater looked worse than anything Teague has thrown up this year.

J from the A

April 16th, 2011
7:29 pm

Offensive execution and solid D (including Kirk locking down on Jameer (so far)). They key is going to be whether the Hawks can maintain this intensity for 48 (and if the bench can maintain).

northcyde

April 16th, 2011
7:29 pm

So are ya’ll going to talk about Hubie dialect?

Calling Pachulia . . Pachula.

Slimjr

April 16th, 2011
7:29 pm

bench josh now

Najeh Davenpoop

April 16th, 2011
7:29 pm

Here comes Etan. 2 fouls each on Collins and Zaza… if Etan picks up 2 as well, we’re going to see Al at center probably.

J.J.M

April 16th, 2011
7:29 pm

smh foul trouble already

bigdave

April 16th, 2011
7:30 pm

here he go looking like Ray Allen @ the stripe..

but when he misses 1.. he goes on a streak of missing..

O'Brien

April 16th, 2011
7:30 pm

James,

Chi would play Orlando in the second round, so they both cannot make it to the finals.

We see the adjustment SVG made with Dwight. He goes up for the pick and roll, and then rolls to the basket, and the Magic get it to him quickly before our big is set.

Wabe

April 16th, 2011
7:30 pm

This is straight up 1 vs. 5.

Dwight vs. the Hawks.

Slimjr

April 16th, 2011
7:30 pm

Al plays center= Orlando blowout…………

Najeh Davenpoop

April 16th, 2011
7:30 pm

Good move by Al to split the double, but better D by Dwight to deny Etan.

Bob is right — you can’t stop attacking just because you get blocked a couple of times.

(Yes, I’m listening to Bob and Nique.)

Slimjr

April 16th, 2011
7:31 pm

Al can u dribble dude???????????? Naw

bigdave

April 16th, 2011
7:31 pm

Northcyde..

naaah.. probably cause most of us are still watching Nique ..

Brad

April 16th, 2011
7:31 pm

Not sure why you’re listing to bob and nique, najeh. Hubie is much better

lewis

April 16th, 2011
7:31 pm

can’t hate on hubie right now he’s not saying shame on the hawks for sucking yet

Brandon

April 16th, 2011
7:31 pm

For the fools that said that Al never gets doubled in the post, watch and learn. Al is being doubled everytime he touches the ball in the post. You don’t double guys who have no post game, so obviously, some people on here have no clue what they are talking about.

northcyde

April 16th, 2011
7:31 pm

With Jamal playing with Marvin, he just can’t come in gunning. Gotta give Marvin a chance to make plays too on offense. Just thinking ahead to the 2nd quarter

superiorblogman

April 16th, 2011
7:32 pm

Defense looks good. Kirk looks good for a change, but there is always one crucial Hawk that does not show up and it looks like Josh Smith is that guy today.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 16th, 2011
7:32 pm

I don’t know. Familiarity, I guess? I’m a little superstitious about these things.

Sleepy

April 16th, 2011
7:32 pm

Josh is mentally not into this game . LD needs to take him out a for couple of minutes and tell him to settle down and just play. Does he not understand that he has the skill set to impact this game without ever actually shooting the ball ?

northcyde

April 16th, 2011
7:33 pm

LOL .. so as much as ya’ll talk about Nique, you’re still watching the hometown announcers?

That’s good . . I guess.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 16th, 2011
7:33 pm

“Al is being doubled everytime he touches the ball in the post.”

That was the first time he posted up in this game. Let’s see what happens the rest of the game.

O'Brien

April 16th, 2011
7:33 pm

northcyde,

Hubie is almost 80 years old, so its ok to mispronounce :smile:

Man, this is going to be a low scoring game.

lewis

April 16th, 2011
7:33 pm

i’ve literally been shaking this whole time…hawks make me crazy

Sleepy

April 16th, 2011
7:34 pm

There is a rule that states that Joe Al and josh cannot all play well at the same time . There can be only two so they have to rotate which two play well.

O'Brien

April 16th, 2011
7:34 pm

I’m watching Hubie. Nique and Bob are homers, and Nique doesnt do much for me in terms of analysis.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 16th, 2011
7:34 pm

Etan, gotta do a little better than that.

northcyde

April 16th, 2011
7:34 pm

Matador defense right there.

Slimjr

April 16th, 2011
7:34 pm

Al rarely post up because he is uncomfortable POSTING UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he’s a spot shooter cause he has no handle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

J.J.M

April 16th, 2011
7:34 pm

it really is howard vs hawks

J.J.M

April 16th, 2011
7:35 pm

oh marvin…

Rev in Tampa

April 16th, 2011
7:35 pm

Well, at least Marvin didn’t fall down.

cp

April 16th, 2011
7:35 pm

Collins has to stay out of foul trouble because Zaza cant defend

Slimjr

April 16th, 2011
7:35 pm

#2 pick in the game…STEP UP TALL ……………

lewis

April 16th, 2011
7:35 pm

teague would abuse arenas

hawks_4_life

April 16th, 2011
7:36 pm

Melvin

April 16th, 2011
7:36 pm

Jamal/Marvin/Josh/Al/Ethan… such an unbalance lineup….

MsDee

April 16th, 2011
7:36 pm

Josh needs to sit RIGHT now

Rev in Tampa

April 16th, 2011
7:37 pm

Did yall notice that all the Hawks were headed down court on that long rebound. Only Josh was back. That shot should have been rebounded by a Hawk long before Josh fouled Turk.

bigdave

April 16th, 2011
7:37 pm

Hawks have to attack the rim

hawks_4_life

April 16th, 2011
7:37 pm

Josh ur costing us

Slimjr

April 16th, 2011
7:37 pm

BENCH #5 NOW……………………………..

J.J.M

April 16th, 2011
7:38 pm

just bench josh for now he needs to cool off

Brandon

April 16th, 2011
7:38 pm

Al is not uncomfortable posting up. His coach is just a dumba$$ and uses him as a spot-up shooter and nothing else. Even Hubie has been saying that the Hawks should be posting up Al and Josh since they have advantages. That goes on the idiotic coach, not on the players.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 16th, 2011
7:38 pm

Smoove doing a good job on the boards, but he is getting owned in the post on the other end by Turkoglu.

Wabe

April 16th, 2011
7:38 pm

Wow Josh. What is up with you today

Rev in Tampa

April 16th, 2011
7:38 pm

Hubie said that Josh is 6′10″. Is that true?

lewis

April 16th, 2011
7:38 pm

if we can hold dwight under 50 we might win

Slimjr

April 16th, 2011
7:38 pm

Bye JOSH!!!!!!!!!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

April 16th, 2011
7:38 pm

JJ Redick entering the game means Jamal is going to have to chase him around some screens now.