Atlanta Hawks at Magic Game 1: Why will it be any different this time?
6:30 pm April 16, 2011, by Michael Cunningham
Orlando–That’s the question, isn’t it?
Unless you believe lots of Twin vs. Dwight is going to make up for 101 points of beat down. . . or Orlando vs. Atlanta without VC, Rashard and Gortat is that much worse than Orlando vs. Atlanta with J-Rich and Arenas . . . or L.D. is going to get something out of these players that Woody couldn’t . . . then there has to be something else to explain how the Hawks can win this series.
I’ve said I think the problem with the Hawks isn’t that they are good enough but just aren’t utilized properly or give in too easily, but rather they give in because they realize they are just not good enough. But I could be wrong about that. Maybe “something else” for the Hawks has nothing to do with match ups or lineups or shot selection or L.D.
Perhaps that’s why Hawks coaches included a couple appeals to players’ character among the usual keys on the pregame board:
“Good or bad, go to the next play.”
“Show no weakness or frustration.”
So I asked the Hawks: After what the Magic did to them last spring, why do they believe this series is going to be any different?
- “The biggest lesson is experience,” J.J. said. “We went through that the previous two years. We definitely know what to expect in this first-round series.”
- “I’m not really giving excuses, but there were a lot of guys not healthy last year,” Josh said. “There are no excuses this year. Guys have got to go out there and match their physicality. I think for those four games they controlled the whole game. They were may more physical than us, and it showed. We have got to be able to come out in this series and show these guys we are ready to play.”
- “Our first game down there in the regular season we went there with the mindset, ‘Let’s close the book on last year,’” Twin said.
- “I think we erased that during the regular season,” L.D. said. “With the playoffs being here now, I think our guys have responded to how they played last year vs. Orlando. I think they feel that they are a very capable ball club. Regardless of what happens tonight I don’t think it is going to shatter or waiver our confidence. I think our guys have gotten over the hump as far as what happened to us last year.”
- “It’s a different year,” Zaza said. “They have got different players. We made some changes. Last year is history; this year is what we are dealing with. We are controlling ‘right now.’ We can’t do anything about last year.”
- “It’s completely different,” Al said. “It’s a new year. We are playing a new lineup against them this season and that’s why we feel so confident going into the series.”
- “I don’t even remember what happened last year,” Jamal said. “It’s a totally different year, a totally different team.”
Notes
- Pape Sy, Magnum Rolle and Hilton Armstrong are inactive.
- The word from Orlando media types is Dwight is irritated by the “Twin as Dwight stopper” storyline. “It is what it is,” Dwight said. “None of these people who write these articles are out there playing. They don’t know. We are the ones playing.”
- Twin, meanwhile, says he’s been kind of amused by the sudden interest in what he has to say: “I haven’t seen this much attention since I was playing in the Finals.”
- The tenor of the stories about Twin suggest that people are amazed that he can have any success against Dwight but he notes that he does have a track record: “I’ve had a lot of experience guarding Shaq, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, going up against great post players in the playoffs. This is just another name on the list.”
- L.D. admits that the notion of defending Dwight straight-up probably isn’t sustainable over a seven-game series. “I think it’s important that you do give this team different looks in how you are going to defend Dwight, how you are going to defend any other actions you have to defend. No one can defend Dwight head’s up through a seven-game series. He’s just too big and too strong. I think overall your team concepts, you have to mix them up.”
- Judging by L.D.’s comments over the last couple days, Jamal, Zaza and Marvin are the only bench guys who definitely are part of the rotation. The other bigs are available for Dwight if necessary. As for Teague, Drew said: “We will see how it goes. I hope I can get him in there because he did a good job in the last few games.”
- Teague, comparing this year to last year’s playoffs: “There’s a possibility I actually might get in the game this year. Other than that, [I] just prepare for it like any other game.”
- Joe on if playing less minutes and coasting over the final four games will benefit the Hawks: “That’s the plan. Hopefully it does. Regardless of that, I am ready to play. I just think it’s time that we answer the challenge. We all should be ready.”
- J.J. Redick is active after missing the final 17 games with an abdominal injury. “We will play him like we normally would off the bench,” Stan Van Gundy said. “When J-Rich goes out, he will go in. How much he plays, he is going to have to figure that out and so am I and figure out where his conditioning is at.”
- As you might expect, the Magic don’t put much stock in the regular-season series: “It’s all different now,” Van Gundy said. “It doesn’t really matter.” Said Dwight: “The regular season is over with. It’s a new ball game.”
- Van Gundy does acknowledge that the Twin lineup has altered things: “They have played us bigger. They’ve defended us really well. We’ve got to attack them better and different. “
- AJC wise guy Jeff Schultz is chatting during the game.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
838 comments Add your comment
Section 303
April 16th, 2011
10:59 pm
Yes! Yes! Yes!
I love that so many of these basketball “experts” look like complete a$$holes. They had better start paying attention to the Hawks (in this series, at least).
Time to get greedy. Go back to Atlanta on Friday up 2-0.
Is this really an upset tonight? On paper, the Hawks are better than the Magic. The Magic have 4 guys on their team who cannot guard anyone on the floor. Redick, Turk, Bass, and Arenas are total defensive liabilities. There is no one on the floor they can hang with.
Vic in Florida
April 16th, 2011
11:00 pm
Excellent last three quarters of play, and Hinrich did a great job on Nelson in that first half. Didn’t know why the gameplan changed the second, but we stood our ground. Hope we continue to play with heart and determination.
SteveW
April 16th, 2011
11:01 pm
As Doc told Nate Robinson last year, we should tell Wilkens and Teague – There will be a time in these playoffs we need you. Stay ready.
And Kirk was either hurt the last two weeks of the season or playing possum. He can stay in front of Jameer.
Now I want to go for the jugular. LD, keep’um focused. And give Al more rest in game 2 will ya’?
SteveW
April 16th, 2011
11:05 pm
And I don’t see how you deactivate Wilkens with the Richardson’s and Reddick. If JJ went down or foul trouble, you are then dangerously thin with guys who can G those 3. Hinrich’s it at that point if no Wilkens, and Teague is the only real PG left on the roster also. Gotta keep Wilkens activated in my book.
And Marvin can give Al a blow in this series – he can keep up with Anderson and Hedo when they play the 4 – Marvin has the length.
Go Hawks!!!
Wabe
April 16th, 2011
11:06 pm
What impressed me most tonight?
I could easily say ‘the gaurds’…or ‘the bigs’…
because truth is, everybody seemed to have a pretty solid game (aside from J.Smith’s 1st quarter). But, JJ, props. When you’re aggressive, and you dictate what you want to get rather than letting your defender dictate what shot he’ll give you, you’re better off. Tonight, JJ was getting where he wanted to get. Efficient. Got the ball out of his when needed. He’ll need to play at this level throughout the playoffs for Atlanta to get anywhere.
SteveW
April 16th, 2011
11:06 pm
And Sund was correct – this is about the players – and they did it, at least for 1 game. Let’s beat these guys and get to round 2.
Miami and the Bulls sure looked beatable today.
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
11:07 pm
The Hawks jump shots were falling till they hit the 4th quarter and almost lost another one….7pts scored up until like the 5 min mark or so….Jamal defense left a lot to be desired!! But we already know hes a one trick pony…..Ld left the Heimlich on the bench too long and finally brought him back late in the 4th.Almost cost him…….LD is just brutal man…………………………….o man…….
Joe looked pretty quick.He abused JR…………………………….
Al hit that mid range all night and Josh finally got his head in the game after a very slow start…BIG WIN Terrell..
Wabe
April 16th, 2011
11:07 pm
Larry Drew: “We’ve been telling Joe to make his moves a little bit quicker…”
He definitely got the message tonight. Hopefully he continues to play with this aggressive nature.
SteveW
April 16th, 2011
11:08 pm
303 – Big upset in my bood. 52 wins versus 43 or 44 wins (can’t remember), and historic blowout last season. I look at it as an upset – and ESPN did also.
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
11:08 pm
That GM for Orlando is in worse shape than Sund??? GO figure…………….
Wabe
April 16th, 2011
11:08 pm
Will say though, tonights performance by Kirk Hinrich doesn’t make me forget that you’ve got another PG sitting on that bench that can spot you some minutes too.
Free Jeff Teague
One playoff win doesn’t change my mind about this.
SteveW
April 16th, 2011
11:09 pm
“Bood” should be “book” – sorry
SteveW
April 16th, 2011
11:10 pm
JJ impressed me the most this evening.
Still not impressed with LD. Sorry. I want to be, but it seems the players just took over, and he basically just does substitutions and maybe runs a few plays.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 16th, 2011
11:12 pm
“Larry Drew: “We’ve been telling Joe to make his moves a little bit quicker…”
He definitely got the message tonight. Hopefully he continues to play with this aggressive nature.”
I didn’t see the press conference (did y’all see it on NBA TV or something?) but I’m glad the message appears to be getting through. Aggressive Joe can take this team a long way.
Wabe
April 16th, 2011
11:13 pm
Will also say, I did see us getting the ball down to the block a little bit more tonight than games in the regular season.
But, lets not kid ourselves. If some of those jumpers weren’t falling, we’d be complaining about the same things we complained about in the regular season.
So, hopefully this continues. And hopefully we can win this series and carry it over to the next series. But, one performance doesn’t have me singing the praises of LD.
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
11:14 pm
Teague has got to PLAY LARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DARN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wabe
April 16th, 2011
11:15 pm
Just saw it on NBATV Najeh.
They’ve got SVG on there right now.
And agree with you about JJ. Hope he continues to stay aggressive. Maybe be able to draw a couple more whistles. Just stay decisive. The offense flows so much better with him aggressive.
Section 303
April 16th, 2011
11:22 pm
SteveW, it’s not an upset. This makes 4-wins in-a-row over the Magic. ESPN thinking this is an upset is more of an indictment against them. Their talking heads watch 3 teams all year and then pass themselves off as “experts”.
Really, I’m surprised ESPN took enough timeout from talking about the Red Sox or Yankees to even notice that a game was played tonight in Orlando.
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
11:24 pm
AL YOUR DEFENSE IS WEAK ON THE STRONG SIDE, IN THE PAINT MAN. HOW DO U CONTINUALLY LET A 5′9″ DUDE GET LAYUPS ON YOU!!!!!YOUR A FREAKING FOOT TALLER..PLAY VOLLEY BALL WITH THAT ISH ALLSTAR AL…………..OH THATS RIGHT YOUR THE MATRIX…A STEP SLOW TO RECOVER THE HELP….TOO BAD CAUSE YOU HAD SOME POTENTIAL HIGHLIGHTS………….
WE NEED THAT YOUNG FELLA DEANDRE JORDAN IN THE MIDDLE…..
mykhalc
April 16th, 2011
11:27 pm
the scorecard says it AIN’T likely to happen like this again people!!! the stars aligned and a TEAM appeared…a team that couldn’t miss appeared. but i don’t like this team anymore than i did. but i’ll take any win they can muster…
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
11:29 pm
ITS AN UPSET OR THE PLAYERS THREW IN THE TOWEL ON THOSE LAST 6 REGULAR SEASONS GAMES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHICH MEANS THEY SHOULD GIVE THE FANS A REFUND……….I BELIEVE THEY SHUT IT DOWN ON PURPOSE…..
mykhalc
April 16th, 2011
11:31 pm
make that scorecard a boxscore…LOL
tom
April 16th, 2011
11:31 pm
The hawks can take their hearts with a win on tuesday. Then get ready for a crazy friday night game in the ATL!!! Go Hawks
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
11:32 pm
Ld, Bench Josh and Start Marvin at the 3??? I cant believe I just said that??????????? SLim have you lost your marbles?????????????????
Section 303
April 16th, 2011
11:33 pm
Slimjr, you’re probably right. The Hawks more than likely did shut it down for those last 6 games. But, if they win this series, I will say that we were wrong to get upset about that. Right now, (in my best Joe Johnson voice) I could care less about those last 6 games. And, I attended two of them.
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
11:34 pm
I hear ya Section 303..Just play and win the FREAKIN GAME!!!!!! He He…..
JeJe
April 16th, 2011
11:37 pm
northcyde, I have been driving. Solid win tonight
Game 2 is a must-win
Don’t let Orlando breathe at all
FIRE LD
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
11:38 pm
I agree, Hawks must win game 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!
prison mike
April 16th, 2011
11:38 pm
JJ vs. J-rich is pretty lopsided in our favor. Richardson right now is what joe will turn into in year 5 or 6 of his contract. Trading away vince carter really benefited us more than the magic.
JeJe
April 16th, 2011
11:39 pm
I think we match up very well against Chicago as long as Hinrich steps it up and Joe attacks whoever is guarding him
I said it before the series, that Joe and Jamal needed to combine for 45+ in order for us to beat any team in the Playoffs
Good start
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
11:39 pm
Teague has got to play Larry…Are u nuts???????????????????????????????/
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
11:40 pm
ISO ABUSED JR!!!!!!!!!!!
Slimjr
April 16th, 2011
11:41 pm
Vince owns the Hawks.Glad to see him long gone…………………………….
Wabe
April 16th, 2011
11:41 pm
I know its only one game…
But seriously, watching the Magic press conference from Van Gundy to the players, they just sound defeated. I think they know the matchups don’t play in their favor.
Mike W
April 16th, 2011
11:45 pm
Lets keep it up hawks.Time to move on to game two and see if we can steal that one(Hopefully we will have same mindset).Not suprised hawks won game 1 in series
JeJe
April 16th, 2011
11:55 pm
I have a strong feeling CP3 will be on the Magic or Mavs next year
MsEvey
April 17th, 2011
1:12 am
Jeje and others bloggers talking about how well the hawks match against or any other eastern conf. Teams need to get past the magic first,this is only one game,so don’t get ahead of yourselves,you have to be careful what you wish for.
Ken Strickland
April 17th, 2011
1:29 am
SLIMJR-Last yr the players had a solid regular season, but shut it down during the playoffs. This yr they shut it down during the last half of the regular season, but definitely showed up for the playoffs. I don’t know about you, but I’ll take this yrs results over last yrs anytime.