Atlanta Hawks: Bobcats 96, Hawks 85

Charlotte–The starters were -53 in this game, a number that’s enhanced by Zaza and Hinrich the entire third quarter alongside reserves. Over the final four games of the season Atlanta’s starters were -215.

  • The Hawks finished with 44 Ws and a six-game losing streak. They were 11-20 after Feb. 5.
  • The Hawks didn’t put much into these last four games. It’s still not a good look for a group with a history of taking that approach for games in which the outcome does matter.
  • L.D.: “I was hoping it wouldn’t end like this. Those couple of games on the road, at Indiana and Washington, I was really hoping the guys would play at a high level but they didn’t respond to that. Now that this thing is over with, we have got to flip the switch. I am pretty confident we will do that.”
  • The Hawks say they will be ready come Saturday.
  • Al: No question. We were in a different situation since we already clinched. I felt like our focus shifted a little bit because we felt secure. We didn’t feel the need to go out there and play like that. Now it’s different. The playoffs are here and our minds are shifting towards that.”
  • “We don’t have much of a choice,” J.J. said. “I am sure we will be ready.”
  • “We will be ready for sure,” Jamal said. “Get some practices in, have the proper preparation, and we will be ready to go.”
  • “What I saw these last four was not the team I saw a week and a half ago against Boston and two weeks ago against Orlando,” Drew said. “They turned the switch off. Now it’s time to turn it back on.”
  • The end-of-bench guys gave a pretty good account of themselves again. Josh Powell, Damien, Etan and Pape Sy all contributed.
  • The reserves played the Bobcats even after the starters opened the game nonchalantly. Then Al and J.J. returned in the second quarter and things went awry again.
  • Drew finally threw in the towel for his starters after that. “I could have played them the second half but with the energy I saw the first half, it would have just been jeopardizing those guys,” he said.
  • After halftime the Hawks made a game of it with their backups. Maybe this means the reserves can take some confidence into the postseason.
  • “I hope so,” Damien said. “I don’t expect to get those type of minutes during the playoffs but anything is possible. We will see. All of the guys who have been getting these minutes the last couple games just want to play. At the same time, we have a good group, guys that have been here, guys that have experience in the playoffs. We have just got to find a way to keep winning.”
  • Hinrich was the only regular starter to play after halftime and he finally had a positive run: 4 of 7 from the field and he kept Augustin in check. Hinrich appeared to have more pep than he had lately. “My primary focus at the start of that third quarter was to get Kirk in a rhythm,” Drew said.
  • Zaza had 10 rebounds. Soon after he left the game in the first half Kwame Brown got going.
  • J.J.’s jump shot is still missing. He’s been getting his post-ups and floaters lately but those won’t come so easy with Dwight roaming the paint.
  • Josh wasn’t noticeable out there. He says the knee is good.
  • Al logged just 10 minutes: “I thought I was going to play a little more but at the end of the day I needed the rest. Just looking forward to having a good practice tomorrow.”
  • L.D. said the practice sessions over the next two days would be mostly about “mental work” without much in the way of contact.
  • It’s come to this for the Hawks: Twin sat out while the normal starters played because he’s indispensable vs. Orlando. “The last thing we would need is for him to hurt the ankle again or something weird to happen,” Drew said.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

171 comments Add your comment

superiorblogman

April 13th, 2011
11:54 pm

Everytime I look at what other teams did during the trade deadline I hate Sund and the ASG more. For the same package we offered Washington we could have gotten Baron Davis and a lottery pick which could have been Derrick Williams. I tell you I hate Sund and the ASG just as much as I hate Larry Drew. Phuck them all.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 14th, 2011
12:08 am

Pump – Faked!

I’m at the Q-Trip gas pump and just filled my hog for $80.
This little white guy just came over and said, “Mam can I have $5 for some gas? I have a car full of little kids and we don’t have enough gas to make it home.” I looked back and saw the little kids sad faces and gave him $10 for at least 2.5 gals., he goes inside , runs out and drives off w/o any gas. I backed up to his pump and it read $58.95.

I go back inside and asked Mark, “What did that guy in the red Tee purchase?”. Mark said, “2 packs of Kools.” Now, I feel like a jack-azz. My stomach hurts. I hope that guy runs out of gas and die of lung cancer, before he gets home. Next time, I will go inside pre-pay for his gas.
__________________

Lesson learned. Beware of the: “cigarettes-for-gas” hustle at these pumps. He pump-faked me at the three point line and drove to the basket for a poster dunk! I feel like a Hawk in the post!
______________________

SteveW

What’s up baby? Maane, I feel you on posting about these Hawks losses.
After my Al Horford tirade a few weeks back, after The Celtics win, I literally ran out of emotional gas and just have been posting for entertainment purposes only. I have nothing to add to the ASKG debacle from a solution’s perspective.

Like my 83 year old Auntie says, “I’m just eatin’ popcorn! Can you put a little Crown Royal in my cherry-coke?”
________________

Rehab is For Quitters!

This team quit in February, they need rehabilitation now.
After Joe said, “We are all jump shooters. It is what it is, man.”
At that point, They Quit! on Drew.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 14th, 2011
12:09 am

MC, what’s the worst losing streak a team has ever been on going into the playoffs? I can’t remember the last time a team entered the playoffs with a six game losing streak.

Rusty

April 14th, 2011
12:10 am

Hate ld & sund

Grandad

April 14th, 2011
12:11 am

Mary Ellen:
God does not care what that fellow did with the money.
He cares that you loved your fellow man and gave him
money in a time of need.
God knew what was in ”your” heart & that is all that matters.

“But love your enemies, do good to them,
and lend to them without expecting to get anything back.
Then your reward will be great,
and you will be sons of the Most High,
because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked”
— Luke 6:35 —

SteveW

April 14th, 2011
12:12 am

The Hawks have depth, they just have a bad coach.

We tried to instill into marginal bench players the “power of 3 minutes”. I’ve seen Phil Jackson and Doc use this concept on occasion, like when Phil started Luke Walton against the Celtics last season in the playoffs. Or Doc using Robinson (a little different scenario) For 3 maybe 4 minutes of high, tough energy, any marginal player can equal a very good player on the other team.

This is how you spot use guys like Hilton or Etan. Maybe even Powell. You come in like a maniac for 3 or 4 minutes each half. It ups the energy level of the entire team. I mean the Hawks have:

JJ
Jamal
Josh
Al
Marvin
ZaZa
Kirk
Teague
Damien

No reason we can’t go 9 deep all the time. Against the Magic, you throw Etan and Collins in the mix as well. We have decent depth, just a very bad Coach.

SteveW

April 14th, 2011
12:15 am

By “we” in my last post, I meant when I coached a small Bible college team in the midwest for a few years, not the Hawks.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 14th, 2011
12:15 am

* After The Hawks win over The Celtics ….

superiorblogman

April 14th, 2011
12:16 am

SteveW: What’s even more frustrating and leaves me with little hope is that 7 of the 9 players you listed have been in the league 5 years or more. With the exception of Al and Teague this is a veteran team of quitters and pieces that don’t fit together. There is no hope with this team outside of Teague growing and trades.

Buddy Grizzard

April 14th, 2011
12:21 am

“For the same package we offered Washington we could have gotten Baron Davis and a lottery pick which could have been Derrick Williams.” – superior

We couldn’t absorb Davis’ contract.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 14th, 2011
12:22 am

Grand-Daddy

Thank You! I needed that encouragement. I would give anyone gas money in duress at the pump. That’s who I am. And, you are so right.
I guess, I took my Hawks disappointment out on him.

I take back the lung cancer, but I do hope he gags on those two packs of Kools. Had he asked me for cigarette money? I still would have helped him out. I just didn’t appreciate being jobbed.

superiorblogman

April 14th, 2011
12:29 am

Buddy Grizzard

April 14th, 2011
12:21 am

“For the same package we offered Washington we could have gotten Baron Davis and a lottery pick which could have been Derrick Williams.” – superior

We couldn’t absorb Davis’ contract.

Yes we could have. He makes $13 mill per and will only have 2 years on his contract when next year begins. We would have had to add a guy like Zaza and everything would be fine. You guys think just as weak minded as the Hawks organization. Baron Davis and a lottery pick is just thinking too bad for the petty environment that the Hawks foster

Buddy Grizzard

April 14th, 2011
12:31 am

“We have decent depth, just a very bad Coach.” – SteveW

Somebody was quoting stats the other day that the Hawks have a starting 5 that ranks I think 11th in the league but our bench ranks horribly. I agree with you SteveW, I don’t think our bench is that bad. I think it’s LD’s inability to properly utilize quality players like Jeff Teague that make our bench look worse on paper than it actually is.

Melvin

April 14th, 2011
12:33 am

Although I think getting rid of Woody was a needed decision but I was totally wrong in thinking LD would be an upgrade. At least under Woody, the Hawks played winning ball but made losing plays. Under LD, the Hawks don’t even play a winning style of ball. They look unorganized, unprepared and completely lost on the court.

The first order of business for this franchise this summer is to find new owners, then GM and Coach…

With all that said, I still hope for post season success. At least to make it to the 2nd round. Maybe that’s the only streak (3 straight 2nd round apperances) the Hawks can keep intact this season…

Buddy Grizzard

April 14th, 2011
12:35 am

Superior,

The Hawks payroll for this year is $70,927,923. ANY salary we take on where the trade partner isn’t taking equal payroll back puts the Hawks into luxury tax territory, something you and I both know the ASG isn’t going to do. Zaza makes $4,251,250 this year, $4,750,000 next year and $5,248,750 in the final year of his contract.

Baron Davis makes $13,050,000, $13,950,000 and $14,850,000. I’m not understanding your math.

Jae Evolution

April 14th, 2011
12:44 am

What Lionel Hollins just did to Ish Smith, is something LD would NEVER do to Jeff Teague.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 14th, 2011
12:46 am

How are we going to beat the Magic, w/o stellar rotations.

Will Teague Start all games?
Will Etan play?
Will we play inside out?
Will we pressure the defense and draw fouls for the penalty points?
Will we step up and make our FT’s?
Will we rebound?
Will we take care of the ball?
Will we rush all our jumps shots and shoot poorly?
Which Hawks team will show up?
Will we play with physicality and urgency?
Will ZaZa be doing the butt? The head-butt.
Will anyone decapitate little Jameer when he trolls into the paint and sit him on his arse? Knock that idiot out in the drive thru lane!

More importantly – Will we play lights out defense?
Will coach draw up a great game plan and make in-game adjustments?

Will we impose our will on the Magic?
Will …. Will …. Will … Will?

cp

April 14th, 2011
12:46 am

Other than not having to listen to Nique anymore, hard to be excited about the playoffs. I want them to play well but how often has this team just flipped the switch?

superiorblogman

April 14th, 2011
12:47 am

Buddy Grizzard

April 14th, 2011
12:35 am

Superior,

The Hawks payroll for this year is $70,927,923. ANY salary we take on where the trade partner isn’t taking equal payroll back puts the Hawks into luxury tax territory, something you and I both know the ASG isn’t going to do. Zaza makes $4,251,250 this year, $4,750,000 next year and $5,248,750 in the final year of his contract.

Baron Davis makes $13,050,000, $13,950,000 and $14,850,000. I’m not understanding your math.

WTF are you typing about? Bibby makes over $5 million this year, Mo makes $2.5 million, Jordan makes over $1 million and Zaza makes $4.25 million. Add all that up and you get what Baron makes. And we were at 69.400 or so before that trade. Kirk and Hilton added about $1 million.

Grandad

April 14th, 2011
12:48 am

• They were 11-20 *[after] Feb. 5
*[after Feb 5th]
*On Feb 8th Our Hawks were Blown Out by Philly !
*As stated before:
” I contend that something happened between 2/05/11 -&- 2/08/11 ”
** This team was rollin’ and the the the tires fell off,
and the transmission fell out, the steering wheel came off,
then everybody bailed out right before it went over the cliff.

” Feb 8th, The Day the Music Died ”
[technically Buddy Holly died on 2/03/59]
“February made me shiver/with every paper I’d deliver”

Drove my chevy to the levee & the levee was dry
Them good ol’ boys were drinkin’ whiskey & rye, singing…
This’ll be the day that I die
This’ll be the day that I die

cp

April 14th, 2011
12:50 am

@Jae Evolution… What did he do?

Buddy Grizzard

April 14th, 2011
12:53 am

“WTF are you typing about?” – Superior

Oh my bad… I didn’t realizing you were daydreaming about the Clippers taking on Bibby’s salary. The clippers took back Mo Williams, a competent starting NBA guard. They were never going to trade one underachieving guard for an even bigger underachiever. Let me know when you wake up from your nap.

northcyde

April 14th, 2011
12:54 am

In other news . . . the Sacramento Kings may be playing their final game ever in Sacramento. I was watching this game earlier, and the Lakers were in full command in this game. Then the reserves kind of let Sac back in the game, and now the Lakers are down 3 . .and have only scored 8 points in the quarter.

Unlike the situation in Seattle and New Orleans, the Kings fans have come out in droves for that possible final game. I hope they pull this out. Hopefully, Kobe doesn’t break their hearts.

It would be poetic justice if he did though.

northcyde

April 14th, 2011
12:55 am

HAHAHAHAAHA. . .OH ISH . . .Kobe hit the 3 . . damn.

Jae Evolution

April 14th, 2011
12:55 am

cp – Grizzlies had the final shot with 20 seconds left on the clock to end the 3rd, Ish Smith was doubled and tried to split it, ended up turning the ball over and DeAndre Jordan was fouled. Lionel Hollins called Ish Smith over hugged him and asked him what he should’ve done in that situation, in the process letting him learn from his mistakes, something I’ve yet to see LD EVER do.

northcyde

April 14th, 2011
12:55 am

Damn Kobe . . that’s cold blooded. Come on Tyreke . . make the shot and send the Kings fans home with a great final memory.

Grandad

April 14th, 2011
12:57 am

SteveW

I didn’t have a catchy name for it but I always
asked [that's puttin' it nicely] my players to
give me 3 min and play as hard as they could.
(starters and bench)
Don’t think that would work in the pros except
on limited basis.
I sure got alot of mileage out of it though.

northcyde

April 14th, 2011
12:58 am

Grandad . .you’re right. Because that Philly blowout came out of NOWHERE.. The New Orleans blowout did too . . but the Philly blowout was totally unexpected.

Wow . . and Kobe plays perfect defense on Thorton and the Kings don’t even get a good shot off.

Kobe may not be Jordan . . but he’s damn close. A lot closer than what people give him credit for.

cp

April 14th, 2011
1:03 am

Thats good coaching Jae. I doubt we will see things like that from LD

drmaryb (*_-)

April 14th, 2011
1:04 am

Hopes and Dreams!

“ L.D.: “I was hoping it wouldn’t end like this.”
________________

Fear based thinking delivers more of the very thing you fear most.
That’s is the impetus of: The Law of Attraction.

A LOSER hopes he does not LOSE.
A WINNER expects to WIN.

J.J.M

April 14th, 2011
1:06 am

whats up with horford legs? can he not jump hight? I swear his vert is like 14 inches

Najeh Davenpoop

April 14th, 2011
1:10 am

If there is a small market in the NBA that really deserves a team, it’s Sac-town. I remember in the early 2000s when they actually had a good team and they had a better home court advantage than anyone else in the league. Sucks for those fans. They deserve better.

Grandad

April 14th, 2011
1:10 am

Our roster is horrible.
If our starters stink…..
then logic suggests that our bench does likewise.

I suggest that Hinrich isn’t so bad
and perhaps Bibby wasn’t either.
Sure they had / have limitations,
but, we’re so small inside that any
shortcomings [pun acknowledged]
from our guards could not be compensated.

No guard can stay in front of NBA caliber talent
all the time and eventually must have help
from the Bigs.
Likewise our *Bigs [mediums] were busy
fighting for their own lives.
[overmatched every night]

Add to that…we can’t rebound.

Defensively it was lose / lose every night.

Offensively *TJS every night due to being so small.
*[team jump shot]

Throw in an overmatched coach and it’s a wonder
we won…..ever !

Buddy Grizzard

April 14th, 2011
1:14 am

Jae Evolution:

What did Lionel Hollins do?

DMB:

Will Teague Start all games?

Obviously he should. He’s our best defensive point guard and Nelson will blow by Captain Kirk at will. LD will start Kirk.

Will Etan play?

Probably get a few minutes for extra fouls on DH. That’s pretty much what we signed him for.

Will we play inside out?

This is the big question. We’ve seen Smoove have some games where he worked inside and drew fouls. He looked like an All Star. If he floats outside the whole series, it will be a 4-game sweep.

Will we pressure the defense and draw fouls for the penalty points?

Hawks have been soft as a roll of Charmin all season at getting to the foul line. It’s either flip the switch or head to the summer home and wait for the agent’s call regarding the impending trade.

Will we step up and make our FT’s?

Hawks are a good free throw shooting team. If the Hawks made an effort to GET to the free throw line, it would be an advantage. Notice I used Hawks and effort in the same sentence there?

Will we rebound?

Orlando traded away most of its front court depth and added Agent Zero, who is about as athletic as Bibby at this point. If the Hawks make the EFFORT to rebound, they can outrebound the Magic. DH can’t get every board and we’ve got Horford, Smoove and Zaza who can get it done.

Will we take care of the ball?

If we start KH at the point, his assist to turnover ration has been a joke as a Hawk. Even with Teague’s inconsistency as a ball handler, he’s way better than KH. If LD doesn’t start Teague, he’s sabotaging any chance we have in this series.

Will we play lights out defense?

This comes down to the individual players. If they decide to play with some pride and heart and bring the effort each game, we have the defensive talent to beat Orlando. Will they quit again?

Will coach draw up a great game plan and make in-game adjustments?

LOL?

drmaryb (*_-)

April 14th, 2011
1:15 am

Famous Last Words!

“ L.D.: “I was hoping it wouldn’t end like this.”
________________

That’s what Whitney said to Bobby.
That’s what Rhianna said to Chris Brown.
That’s what ABC said to Charlie Sheen.
That’s what Nicole Kiddman said to Brad Pitt.
That’s what the man on Death Row said to his Executioner.
That’s what my Mother said to my Father.

But, the outcome was inevitable, nonetheless.
When you play soft, you lose hard.
____________

Good-Night.

Grandad

April 14th, 2011
1:16 am

northcyde

Kobe has a fire burnin’ in his belly
that doesn’t even smolder in Joe’s belly.

Jordan & Bird had it too.

I expect that young Mr Rose has it as well.

northcyde

April 14th, 2011
1:19 am

That’s why Kobe is the “Black Mamba”. That was a cold blooded 3. No compassion for the Kings whatsoever. And the crowd knew it. No way the Kings were going to win in OT.

northcyde

April 14th, 2011
1:21 am

Joe has piece of unlit coal in his belly, compared to Kobe. JJ is by boy, and I’ll be forever grateful for him helping us to get back to playoff level. But Kobe’s mentality is on another level. JJ has only seen that level one time in his life . . Game 4 vs Boston.

drmaryb (*_-)

April 14th, 2011
1:24 am

My Buddy!

Buddy Grizzard! You nailed every question with a sledge hammer.
There are no more questions that begs an answer.

Will The Hawks answer the bell?
______________

I believe Othello said, “Ask for not whom the bell tolls – it tolls for thee.”
Ahem … Cough … Ahem: The Death Toll

Get your popcorn ready, come Saturday night it’ll be on and poppin’.

TheAntiMe

April 14th, 2011
1:27 am

That’s right. No one got hurt and that’s a good thing. Although, now the Hawks players will not have the excuse that, we were all beat up and hurt with key injuries from the regular season so that’s why we stunk it up so bad.

Except for JJ of course who has already gone on record as stating that he “could (not) care less what anyone thinks” about how he or his teammates perform in the playoffs.

I’m just being grumpy though. Actually, I am hoping against all of the factual evidence that seems to be in place and will continue to hope that our Atlanta Hawks will do us proud.

Buddy Grizzard

April 14th, 2011
1:33 am

Marcin Gortat 21 points, 13 rebounds in Phoenix win over San Antonio. That’s what the Hawks will NOT be facing in the ORL series. Wow… Ginobli hyper extended elbow. Spurs out in second round to the Thunder?

tjhook

April 14th, 2011
1:37 am

Northcyde, you are so right! I was watching those highlights earlier this year. Can someone convince him to get that determination back AND more importantly, motivate his teammates.

superiorblogman

April 14th, 2011
1:38 am

Buddy Grizzard

April 14th, 2011
12:53 am

“WTF are you typing about?” – Superior

Oh my bad… I didn’t realizing you were daydreaming about the Clippers taking on Bibby’s salary. The clippers took back Mo Williams, a competent starting NBA guard. They were never going to trade one underachieving guard for an even bigger underachiever. Let me know when you wake up from your nap.

Buddy you are okay with me but you are being the average blogger who just wants to be right when he is wrong on this. Clippers wanted to get rid of Baron’s contract, Bibby’s contract expires next season. Get a grip dude you are just wrong and petty minded like the ASG and Sund

Buddy Grizzard

April 14th, 2011
1:48 am

Superior, somebody said the emergence of Blake Griffin has forced Donald Sterling’s hand. Because the Clippers are in L.A., they have a TV deal that makes the team hugely profitably if they win or not. So they’ve been mismanaged for years, and Sterling couldn’t care less.

Now the spotlight is on that franchise because it lucked up and got a budding superstar. If they get it wrong now, they get it wrong with a huge spotlight on the franchise. Trading a lazy, out of shape player like Baron Davis for someone like Mo Williams makes sense. Williams is hungry and eager to prove his worth outside of being LeBron’s sidekick.

You’re correct that Williams has one more year on his contract than Bibby had. The difference is that Williams can be expected to play at an NBA starting guard level for two more years. Bibby hasn’t played at that level for more than a season.

Buddy Grizzard

April 14th, 2011
1:55 am

By the way… anybody up for gathering for game one at Phillips Arena taco mac?

mykhalc

April 14th, 2011
2:30 am

Hawks ‘playoff team’ and play will mirror their season…PERIOD!!! LD will confuse us even more and ORL will tell the Hawks to take that 3-1 season series and have a nice summer vacation!!! KA BOOM is closer by the day!!!

Worldwide Clyde

April 14th, 2011
3:06 am

NUNNA!!

April 14th, 2011
5:37 am

Wow Grandad,
I too thank you for those words that u gave to Mary Ellen.
U never know who u else u touched with those words besides her and ME!!

Dr.Mary B.,others have been jobbed like that even worse..
God loved you because u are the kind hearted person that you are,and whatever u do..Don’t change!! Ok??

Keep that good heart,it gives me hope that in case of need or an emergency and im in no shape at the time to help myself that their are others like yourself out there that are out there..

God Bless..

O'Brien

April 14th, 2011
7:21 am

All we heard from LD was this team cannot just flip a switch and turn it on in the playoffs. But what did he say last night? “Now that this thing is over with, we have got to flip the switch. I am pretty confident we will do that.”.

Does he really believe it, or is just saying it because there is nothing else he can say?

Hawks record: 24-17 at home, 20-21 on the road. Very disappointing.

And what’s up with JJ? His 3-pt % after a hot January;

February: 33%, March: 30%, April: 23%.

If he doesn’t step it up, we wont make it to June. However, if Collins can slow down Dwight, we have a chance.

joe

April 14th, 2011
7:43 am

WOW, and I thought the Hawks couldn’t get any less relevant. Wrong again……