Heat at Atlanta Hawks: Williams injury shows risks of gearing up for meaningless games
Marvin turned an ankle at Washington and may not play tonight. I remember Marvin limping a bit during the game but he ended up playing 29 minutes and I don’t recall him getting treatment after the game.
In any event, Marvin’s injury provides a (admittedly after-the-fact) counterargument to the notion that the Hawks need to use these games to get ready for the playoffs.
“You are hoping your team looks at is an opportunity to gain momentum going into the playoffs,” L.D. said. “Looking at the last couple games, that’s not the case and I am concerned about that. But at the same time, keeping things in their proper perspective, we want to try to get to the playoffs as healthy as we can. What happened to Marvin the other night is the one thing you don’t want to happen where you get a starter or key guy hurt in a game that has very little meaning.”
Josh will return to the lineup tonight. L.D. said Josh will play limited minutes with the main goal of getting him some work after sitting out a week.
“I feel good,” Smoove said. “The swelling is down. I am going to play tonight and see how it feels in game action.”
Even after the injury to Marvin, J.J. still says the starters need minutes before the playoffs.
“It’s just a gamble you have to take when you are trying to get some chemistry and rhythm,” he said. “It happens, man. Guys are going to get injuries and nick nacks. You hope it doesn’t happen but it does.”
Better effort?
The Hawks mailed it in against a marginal playoff team and a lottery squad that played three D-League refugees. Maybe they will find some inspiration in playing the Heat.
“Especially the way they beat us here last time,” Jamal said. “They have a lot of momentum [after] beating Boston. We feel like we can get the momentum going towards the playoffs. I think we will be fired up for tonight.”
J.J. said he’s not sure about that.
“I have no clue. I don’t know,” he said. “The last few games we have played have been unacceptable. With us being back home maybe we will come out and play better.”
The Heat are trying to finish a game ahead of Boston to earn the No. 2 seed in the East. The Hawks could help prevent that, which would have no effect on their path through the playoffs but it would be something.
“No question there’s that,” Al said. “But at the same time we have to come out and play for ourselves.”
Iso-Kirk?
At Washington on Saturday there were several possessions in which Hinrich dribbled to every area of the half court while the rest of the Hawks stood and watched. He would make a move, dribble through traffic and then look up to see his teammates still standing.
It was unclear exactly what Hinrich and Hawks were trying to accomplish.
“There’s times when offensively we get a little stagnant,” Hinrich said. “It’s just one of those things we have to guard [against]. I think it all comes back to defense. If we are getting stops, the game is so much easier for us. We have got so many energy who can make plays and I think that is where our strength lies. So we will focus on that.”
Is Hinrich still learning his teammates’ games?
“I feel more and more comfortable every day,” he said. “I’ve very excited about what lies ahead of us. I think we still can be a very dangerous team and I think every guy in here believes that.”
Jameer takes a jab
It seems there is some buzz in Hawks fandom about Jameer’s comment to D-Rose that he would “catch you in the second round.” AJC wise guy Jeff Schultz asks: “Is it wise for the starting point guard on the Orlando Magic to just be assuming victory over Atlanta in the first round?”
I guess the Hawks can put that quote on the bulletin board. Come to think of it, they don’t really have a bulletin board as far as I can tell. Does any team, really? I see lots of grease boards, no bulletin boards.
Anyway, the Hawks do have a bunch of signs with inspirational slogans hanging in the locker room and hallways. Those didn’t inspire them to avoid taking a historic L from the Magic last spring or three 30-point beat downs at home and one to the Wiz this season so excuse me if I’m skeptical that something like Jameer’s quotes will have much effect on this group.
Al honored
The league awarded Al the the NBA Cares Community Assist Award for March after he donated $23,000 to Direct Relief International to assist Japan and the Pacific region following the March 11 earthquake and tsunami. I ran into a Japanese reporter friend while I was in Houston and he says the people in his country are very appreciative of Al’s gesture.
Hawks sign Rolle
The Hawks today signed forward Magnum Rolle.
The Thunder selected Rolle, 25, with the 51st overall pick in the NBA draft before trading his rights to Indiana. The 6-foot-11 forward was in training camp with the Pacers last summer but ended up playing 15 games this season with the Maine Red Claws of the D-League.
Rolle, a native of the Bahamas, played at LSU and Louisiana Tech.
Atlanta now has 15 players on its roster.
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O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
2:57 pm
Blame it on LD. And he’s also lucky the Jason Collins injury isnt that serious, because Twin might hold the key to Dwight Howard.
Rufus1
April 11th, 2011
3:02 pm
I hope he starts Teague instead of Collins.
Slimjr
April 11th, 2011
3:03 pm
Marvin wont be missed! South Beach by 35 in the 3rd qtr….
Slimjr
April 11th, 2011
3:04 pm
Hawks will mail in next 6 games anyway…..
Hire Mike Brown
April 11th, 2011
3:04 pm
Hire Mike Brown the next day after the Hawks are out the Playoffs!
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
3:06 pm
From the previous blog;
Slimjr,
Hawks Road games in the post season under Woody;
2008;
Game 1 at Boston: Lost by 23, Game 2 at Boston: Lost by 19
Game 5 at Boston: Lost by 25, Game 6 at Boston: Lost by 34
Average margin of defeat: 25.3 ppg.
If I was Rick, I would not have given Woody an extension (despite the Hawks winning 3 games against Boston in ATL). It was inexcusable to lose on the road by that margin. And what do you know? History repeated itself.
2009 Postseason (on the road):
Game 3 at Miami: Lost by 29, Game 4 at Miami: Won by 10
Game 6 at Miami: Lost by 26
Game 1 at Cleveland: Lost by 27
Game 2 at Cleveland: Lost by 20
2010 Postseason (on the road):
Game 3 at Bucks: Lost by 18, Game 4 at Bucks: Lost by 7
Game 6 at Bucks: Won by 14
Game 1 at Orlando: Lost by 43, Game 2 at Cleveland: Lost by 14
JeJe
April 11th, 2011
3:06 pm
LOL @ JJ saying we’ll be better at home.
Notice again how he never says “I”
It’s always we
Hire Mike Brown
April 11th, 2011
3:07 pm
Then Trade Joe Johnson, Kirk Hinrich, and Marvin Williams to the Hornets for Chris Paul and David West! Resign Jamal Crawford and let him Start with Josh and Al. That is our five next year!
Section 303
April 11th, 2011
3:09 pm
Michael, I understand what you’re saying. These last games have no meaning. Staying healthy is key. I get it. I think everyone gets that.
The problem with the Hawks is that they have totally shut themselves down. That’s fine for teams like the Lakers or Celtics, but not the Hawks. No way they can handle that. Once this team checks out, it checks out. I don’t buy for a second that they can just flip a magic switch and suddenly be playing with intense, playoff type effort.
I think Drew should keep his foot on these guys. They’ve checked out of enough games this year. Do they really deserve a break? I think not. They deserve a kick in the balls, but not a break. Make ‘em play the regular minutes. No one on the team has earned a breather.
Section 303
April 11th, 2011
3:12 pm
By the way…how many on here are going tonight? I’ll be there (I think, deep down, I must hate myself). Expecting the stands to be either half empty or full of the Heat loyal I-started-following-this-team-in-June fans.
Hire Mike Brown
April 11th, 2011
3:13 pm
I will be there too with a “Trade Joe Johnson Sign!!!!!”
Michael Cunningham
April 11th, 2011
3:13 pm
@ Sec 303: “Michael, I understand what you’re saying. These last games have no meaning. Staying healthy is key. I get it. I think everyone gets that.
The problem with the Hawks is that they have totally shut themselves down. That’s fine for teams like the Lakers or Celtics, but not the Hawks. No way they can handle that. Once this team checks out, it checks out. I don’t buy for a second that they can just flip a magic switch and suddenly be playing with intense, playoff type effort.”
actually, i tend to agree. just pointing out that a risk you take with that approach is an injury so got to live with that if it happens. there is no easy answer to the dilemma in my view.
JeJe
April 11th, 2011
3:15 pm
#Hawks sign F Magnum Rolle
Section 303
April 11th, 2011
3:16 pm
Hire Mike Brown, was that sign leftover from last year’s Game 4 with Orlando?
doc
April 11th, 2011
3:17 pm
what would be worse and more revealing is to pull back to conserve and “be ready” only to get blown out in 5. whatever it is they all need to get on the same page as to how to approach these games. if it is to play scrubs then play them and tell them to win or not. we seem to go half way or be very ambiguous into how it is being handled.
Leffty
April 11th, 2011
3:17 pm
Even with the recent four-game slide, the Hawks will still hold onto the #5 seed in the East and play the Magic in the first round. The hawks have lots of experience playing together, and they beat the Magic three out of four times this season. Who is going to take that first round series? Check out the preview here:
http://sportstatistics.blogspot.com/2011/04/nba-playoff-preview-round-1-4-orlando.html
white cocoa
April 11th, 2011
3:17 pm
good job Al! (would like to hear about more pro athletes doing stuff like that.)
Section 303
April 11th, 2011
3:18 pm
Michael, I agree. You live with what happens. But, I think the answer is easy. Make these guys play. And, while Drew is at it, he should tell them why he’s making them play. They simply haven’t earned the break.
But, really, does it matter? No way….and I mean NO WAY the Hawks get out of the first round.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
3:18 pm
From the previous blog…
“The combined number of losses for Eastern Conference teams at the end of last year’s regular season was 636. This season, the combined losses for teams in the East is 637, and the season isn’t quite over yet. Does anyone still want to argue that the conference is stronger this year?”
This is irrelevant. The conference is stronger by virtue of the top teams having improved. Yes, your stat holds true because the bottom teams correspondingly are worse this year than last year, but from the point of view of a playoff team, the bottom teams going from bad to worse is irrelevant since they were easy wins anyway.
Put it this way — a playoff team is going to beat this year’s 21 win Wizards team just as easily as they beat last year’s 26 win Wizards team. It’s going to show up the same way in the standings. Are they going to beat this year’s 60 win Chicago team as easily as they beat last year’s 41 win Chicago team? No way. Are the Magic and Hawks, who each play the Heat four times, as likely to do as well against them this year as they did last year? No way.
Comparing last year’s standings to this year, the Cavs, Hawks, Bucks, Raptors, and Bobcats have gotten significantly worse. The other 10 teams in the conference are either improved or at roughly the same level.
And anyway, there is a qualitative aspect to this that goes beyond simply looking at records. I think it’s fair to say, for example, that this year’s Knicks team — on pace for about 43 wins — is a much more dangerous playoff opponent than last year’s Bobcats team, which won 44 games.
Hire Mike Brown
April 11th, 2011
3:19 pm
LOL No, that was not me… But I do plan to keep it until they trade him or his contract expires!
ken
April 11th, 2011
3:22 pm
joe needs to stop talkin bout needing to get chemestry if u dont have it after playing the whole season n years together u wont ever have it or get it in the last 2 games of the season
Rufus1
April 11th, 2011
3:22 pm
Beat the Magic…the only thing that matters.
I think the Hawks Have one goal, beat the Magic. They have not taken off one minute against them this year and I think they will prove that in the playoffs.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
3:23 pm
“Anyway, the Hawks do have a bunch of signs with inspirational slogans hanging in the locker room and hallways. Those didn’t inspire them to avoid taking a historic L from the Magic last spring or three 30-point beat downs at home and one to the Wiz this season so excuse me if I’m skeptical that something like Jameer’s quotes will have much effect on this group.”
LMAO. Real talk.
If anything, the buzz over the last two weeks about Jason Collins being the “Dwight-stopper” is going to fire up Dwight and inspire him to destroy this team singlehandedly. At this point it’s hard for me to imagine anything lighting a fire under this team.
Hire Mike Brown
April 11th, 2011
3:24 pm
@Michael Cunninham: Do you think the Hawks will ever ask Dominque to Coach. I mean I listen to him talk on the sidelines and he sees the same things we see which he is not afraid to comment about everything the Hawks Lack. Secondly, what your thoughts about him coaching.
Slimjr
April 11th, 2011
3:26 pm
@O’Brien,
Thanks for those brutal numbers!!!!LOL
So in three years of playoff road games they have only 2 wins??????????????DANG…………..
The rest are major beat downs??????
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
3:29 pm
To me, the only difference between Mike Brown and Woody was that Mike Brown had LeBron and Woody had Joe Johnson. I don’t see him as some major improvement. The Cavs’ schemes with him looked almost identical to what the Hawks did under Woody.
Slimjr
April 11th, 2011
3:32 pm
Hire Coach Brown wont make a difference with cast of wanna be’s…
Drafting DWILL in 05, Drafting Lue ALdang in 04, Drafting Rudy Gay in 07, would have made a huge difference..
Players play to win the game……………….Playoffs,PLAYOFFS????Yep….
Slimjr
April 11th, 2011
3:33 pm
check that,Rudy in 06..
Bird
April 11th, 2011
3:35 pm
Who the heck is Magnum Rolle?
Michael Cunningham
April 11th, 2011
3:38 pm
Blog updates with Hawks signing Magnum Rolle.
Lots of people on Twitter don’t seem to know who he is. Am I the only one who remembers him from his LSU days? The name alone makes him memorable but I recall a long, skinny kid who could block shots and not much else.
Michael Cunningham
April 11th, 2011
3:40 pm
@ Hire Mike Brown: “@Michael Cunninham: Do you think the Hawks will ever ask Dominque to Coach. I mean I listen to him talk on the sidelines and he sees the same things we see which he is not afraid to comment about everything the Hawks Lack. Secondly, what your thoughts about him coaching.”
i can’t tell if this is sarcasm? no, Nique will not be asked to coach. my thoughts are that he would not make a very good one. that’s no disrespect to Nique, who as you say at least will call out guys he sees every day even if he’s not the smoothest on the mic.
Rod from College Park
April 11th, 2011
3:42 pm
Another excuse for Marvin. So when he averages 8pts and 4 rpg (his career playoff averages), all the Marvin supporters will say that he was hurt. Next year we will hear that same, Marvin should get more shots, he has got potential, he’s young………….
Astro Joe
April 11th, 2011
4:00 pm
MC, why the Magnum Rolle signing at game #80? What should we make of this roster move, that Collins may not be available for some/all of the Orlando series and they want 6 more fouls against Dwight? WTF, they couldn’t find Patrick O’Bryant’s phone number?
mykhalc
April 11th, 2011
4:00 pm
the WNBA draft is more excitin’ than Hawks bball…PERIOD!!!
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
4:04 pm
Bird
April 11th, 2011
3:35 pm
Who the heck is Magnum Rolle?
Ladies and Gentlemen . . . Magnum Rolle
Cool name.
Rev in Tampa
April 11th, 2011
4:05 pm
doc,
I think you put your finger on the pulse of the Hawks on the previous blog when you said, “hawks are breed of their own. i believe they could come out and win the series just as easily as get trashed in five or less.”
They win on the road this year after being terrible last year. They lose at home in blowouts this year after being one of the better home teams in the league last year. They lay down when they are losing by 15 to poor teams but battle back against Chicago and Boston. They beat Orlando 3 out of four 4 this year after the historic beatdown in the playoffs. They lose several games in blowout fashion and it doesn’t seem to really (deep-down) bother them.
Who can figure them out??? They are as likely to sweep the Magic as be swept. This team is a hot mess.
Astro Joe
April 11th, 2011
4:05 pm
And why wouldn’t Jameer take the position that his team will win and get another shot at the Bulls? Heck, I would love for one of our players to say to Bibby after tonight’s game, “see you in the ECF”.
Astro Joe
April 11th, 2011
4:14 pm
Section 303, I received an email this morning from Hawks ticket broker trying to sell some Heat tickets. That is generally a sign that they have more than a handful of seats left over. I know that they tried to sell Heat tickets at a premium and now they are practically giving them away.
doc
April 11th, 2011
4:18 pm
man, i am sure they stole magnum out from riles nose while he was looking at eddie curry and wisely turning him down. now where is rand mo to answer the ad in miami for a seven footer? we just made ourselves stronger while making the other guy weaker even if we dont use him. oh, it wont work for him? only for what the lakers did in getting barnes when they really didnt need him and it left the magic that much weaker. you mean we wont see the heat down the road at ecf? durn.
rev, yes still dont know what to expect. i said it last week the most optimistic i can get is to think these guys can go for short bursts out of the gate like at the starts of seasons. geez i can only wish for that. got tix so i guess i gotta take my punishment but would rather see something of substance.
K.W.
April 11th, 2011
4:18 pm
So what was the point in signing Magnum Rolle???
Rufus1
April 11th, 2011
4:19 pm
Magnum Rolle
Who is going to sit during the playoffs…Ohhh, Josh Powell.
He sounds like a young Josh Smith. 6′10 athletic shot blocker.
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/magnum-rolle
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
4:20 pm
LOL @ Astro. That is a good question.
Sund has been saving this “secret weapon” until the end of the season. He and Pape will round out our bench . . lol.
But if this is an indication that Collins can’t go, that may be all she wrote for us. Rolle is basically Solomon Jones reincarnated.
SMH . . so we sign Magnum Rolle, but couldn’t waste the #31 pick on Jarvis Varnado, who could at least block a few shots and possibly grab rebounds? Jarvis is having a pretty good year in Italy
Rufus1
April 11th, 2011
4:20 pm
Magnum Rolle
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/585361-rolle-call-why-magnum-rolle-deserves-to-be-playing-in-the-nba
Hawk Str8Talk
April 11th, 2011
4:21 pm
we wait until game 81 to sign another big – I mean Hilton, Etan and Josh Powell don’t have enough company as it stands. That’s a joke, right? ASG never ceases to amaze.
Rufus1
April 11th, 2011
4:22 pm
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Magnum-Rolle-501/
mykhalc
April 11th, 2011
4:23 pm
@Joe…yep…i wonder which one of the leader-less would step up with that kinda statement??? NADA!!!
Michael Cunningham
April 11th, 2011
4:24 pm
@ AJ: “MC, why the Magnum Rolle signing at game #80? What should we make of this roster move, that Collins may not be available for some/all of the Orlando series and they want 6 more fouls against Dwight? WTF, they couldn’t find Patrick O’Bryant’s phone number?”
i have no idea what to make of it. L.D. didn’t let on that Twin’s injury is all that serious. kept saying “minor” sprain. Twin also downplayed it.
Astro Joe
April 11th, 2011
4:24 pm
Unless Josh Powell is being arrested again for being stupid, I assume this is just another body to commit 6 fouls if all of our other bigs go down. Essentially, a tall player encased with a label saying “break glass in the event that your other 5-6 bigs go doqwn during the playoffs”.
And he isn’t much of a shot-blocker, at least he wasn’t in his limited stint in the D-League. Again, I think he is just cheap & tall (and about as thin as Jamal).
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/magnum_rolle/index.html?nav=page
doc
April 11th, 2011
4:24 pm
looks lik hilton to me.
Rufus1
April 11th, 2011
4:26 pm
I was a Hilton/Powell supporter, but they SUCK!!! He can’t be worse than them.
Powel can’t jump or defend and Hilton plays with mittens.
I will never be mad at a team for trying to get better, even if it is late. WE HAVE ALWAYS NEEDED ANOTHER SHOT-BLOCKER AND HE IS THAT.
Astro Joe
April 11th, 2011
4:30 pm
Rufus, this guy won’t even dress for the games (maybe the Charlotte game but not likely in the playoffs). The Hawks HAVE to have 3 guys wearing suits in each game… Pape Sy, Rolle and probably Powell (or maybe Hilton) will get to wear street clothes during the Magic series (assuming Collins is healthy). And frankly, I’d rather see Powell tangle with Dwight than Hilton. 1 blocked shot a game in 25 minutes doesn’t sound like much of a shot-blocker to me.
Slimjr
April 11th, 2011
4:31 pm
@O’Brien ,
Remember Billy Knight wanted to fire Woody 3 times I believe in 07 but Gearon would not let him do it..So he resigned at the end of the season….
doc
April 11th, 2011
4:33 pm
woody is probably asking where was sund when i needed him last year for a few mobile bigs? well not so much mobile i guess but tall. could we say to sund we need bigs not skinnies in the next memo.
we really need this as i thought this is what al might look like as he grew up. notice k perkins aint that big but he does exert his game:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AmxksuABDkxnaxko8bjmacW8vLYF?slug=jy-ludden_perkins_gives_thunder_shot_against_lakers_041111
Slimjr
April 11th, 2011
4:35 pm
“we wait until game 81 to sign another big – I mean Hilton, Etan and Josh Powell don’t have enough company as it stands. That’s a joke, right? ASG never ceases to amaze.”
Sund is nervous!!!!!!!! A sign of desperation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rufus1
April 11th, 2011
4:37 pm
AJ…I know he won’t play.
I don’t want to see Powell on the floor at all. I agree 1 block a game isn’t much, but that is about what Josh has averaged in the last 25 games. He has the rep of a shot-blocker and I will take that, because we only have Josh with that rep now.
Slimjr
April 11th, 2011
4:38 pm
“JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHATS COMING UP IN THE PLAYOFFS, I THINK THE ORLANDO MAGIC WILL BEAT THE HAWKS BY 50 POINTS IN EACH OF THEIR CONTESTS. THIS SHOULD SET A NEW RECORD FOR MARGIN OF DEFEAT THAT THE HAWKS SET LAST SEASON. THE HAWKS WILL BE SWEPT IN FOUR GAMES BY LOSING BY OVER 200 POINTS. THIS IS A BOLD BUT ACCURATE PREDICTION. HATS OFF TO JAMIEER NELSON FOR LETTING US KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN.”
WOW……………LOL
Astro Joe
April 11th, 2011
4:38 pm
doc, Sund has yet to deliver an effective back-up big. Joe Smith, RandMo, Collins, Etan, Powell and Hilton are his legacy. Collins has been serviceable this season. That’s not a particularly great ratio, even if you are dealing with strictly the minimum wage for NBA vets. Maybe next season he can try to bring in the Swift Brothers (Stromile and Robert).
Rufus1
April 11th, 2011
4:43 pm
@Slim
You are wrong about this one. The Hawks have one objective this year and that is to beat the Magic. They have played harder against them, than any other team. Our problems usually start with effort, but we bring the effort against the Magic every game.
We are going to win this series slim, because we are better than the Magic.
Astro Joe
April 11th, 2011
4:46 pm
Rufus, I guess. 4 fouls in 25 minutes of action against D-League talent. Dude will likely foul out in 3 minutes against Orlando (or leave due to a concussion after Dwight knocks him senseless).
But it does make sense to find a warm body for that last roster position. Better to have that 15th slot filled out and not need it than… But if dude is dressed in a Hawks uniform (other than against Charlotte) that likely means that the end is very, very, very near.
MannyT
April 11th, 2011
4:48 pm
Signing Magnum Rolle seems like the Hawks equivalent of the Applebees halftime show when SkyHawk knocks down the rib guy just before he wins the obstacle course. It changes things, but few people are moved because they weren’t watching before the move.
I’m sure Danny Ainge is attacking his Rick Sund voodoo doll as we blog…curses, foiled again!
mykhalc
April 11th, 2011
4:52 pm
Magnum is Hawks version of Durant!!!
Astro Joe
April 11th, 2011
4:55 pm
mykhalc, that California smog ain’t no joke, huh?
mykhalc
April 11th, 2011
4:57 pm
yo Joe…that was a perfectly clear-headed deduction of Hawks thinkin’!!! we keep it fresh and breezy here in the Bay!!!LOL
The Game Has Changed
April 11th, 2011
5:01 pm
Yall can sit here and try and dog my Hawks all you want. But we love them. We support Drew all the way. Yall treating him the same way yall treating Obama. They both inherited a bunch of crap. It is up to the players to execute the plays. Stop Hating. The Hawks record was better than 17 other teams and he hasnt even scratched the surface on his entire plan. It takes time. Give the man another year. This is chess not checkers. The Nets got rid of Byron Scott after taking them to the finals. And its safe to say they will never return
The Game Has Changed
April 11th, 2011
5:03 pm
Lets me add one more thing. Forget about this C. Paul and D. Williams crap. What have they done the last five years in the playoffs. And they have both had a better supporting cast. We gonna be aight. Go Hawks
Astro Joe
April 11th, 2011
5:03 pm
Well, his physical attributes suggest that he could be the victim of blunt force trauma if he has to go toe-to-toe with Dwight or Brandon Bass. Again, I like the signing of a 15th player, I just hope that we won’t have to see the young man in action during the playoffs. Maybe he can attend our summer league camp once the CBA is quickly signed (he said wishfully).
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
5:14 pm
Why does every highlight video on Youtube use “All The Above” by Maino as the background music?
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
5:21 pm
Nah Game
There’s pretty strong evidence that Drew’s system just doesn’t work for this team. It has rendered our two main scorers to be simply complimentary players, taking away from the strengths they bring to the table.
Most of us knew it would affect Jamal, but we didn’t think it would affect JJ as much. He is not the spot up shooter that he was in Phoenix 6 years ago. He misses a ton of open jumpers from 3 point range. Meanwhile, he’s been one of the better isolation scorers in the NBA for years.
Less looks for JJ and Jamal = more looks for everybody else. Problem is, the other guys are shooting jumpers too. And instead of them being in the pain to rebound JJ’s and Jamal’s misses, no one is in the paint to rebound the misses from our bigs.
So there is a domino effect that stems from that.
Drew isn’t totally to blame. The players do have to play better and try to be tougher. But right now, Drew is definitely part of the problem.
Watching Hawks 360 right now. Etan is a deep brotha. A great human being. Just wish he could rebound and defend a little better so that he could contribute on a nightly basis.
Slimjr
April 11th, 2011
5:23 pm
“Lets me add one more thing. Forget about this C. Paul and D. Williams crap. What have they done the last five years in the playoffs. And they have both had a better supporting cast. We gonna be aight. Go Hawks”
NEWSFLASH!!!! Everyone knows but you that the Western Conference has been stronger for years…Denver and OCK would dismantle the Hawks as of now!! Add Orleans too player……LOL
Slimjr
April 11th, 2011
5:23 pm
^^^^^^
Know
steve brown
April 11th, 2011
5:30 pm
The Hawks have become meaningless as has some of your reporting. The other night you mentioned JC2 had little impact on the game due to early foul trouble. He wound up with 8 assists-I dearly wish we had a guard who get us 8 meaningless assists per game.
Slimjr
April 11th, 2011
5:34 pm
The Nets tanked after Jason Kid talked management into firing Scott…..They had previously gone to two finals…How many finals have the freaking Hawks been too player???
Drew does not equal Scott by any stretch of the imagination…Scott has 3 rings as a player and two final appearances as a coach… Nice try PLAYER………….
Grandad
April 11th, 2011
5:47 pm
Is Magnum even eligible for play-offs ? [serious question]
*Intresting workout vid* :: *[Magnum Rolle]*
Some of you may enjoy !
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDIQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DsLRBajfq6xE&ei=DnGjTcu5FKaB0QG_pP2XBQ&usg=AFQjCNEuY1ta2gf5um9GDJ-ybqGnXI2IbQ
Slimjr
April 11th, 2011
5:48 pm
Why did you have to bring up the prez?? He’s busy with 3 wars now….and 15 trillion dollars worth of debt on his watch?…..I wouldn’t want his job…..LOL
Hire Mike Brown
April 11th, 2011
5:55 pm
No Pun intended or sarcasm with the Nique question as coach… I was serious and wanted to know your expert thoughts on it based on what I hear in the mic when he is calling games… Nique Keys to the game prior to the jump appears to be on point and he is not afraid to call out the players that is screwing up.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
5:59 pm
I’m sure the Hawks’ nimbers would improve with Nique as head coach. Come to think of it, they could also use him to inspect those fire shooting things above the baskets.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
6:00 pm
“Is Magnum even eligible for play-offs ?”
Good question. I was wondering this too.
Grandad
April 11th, 2011
6:01 pm
northcyde
I’m not disputing anything you said in your last post.
“Having Said That”
Please, Please, Please;
don’t anyone out in “Blogland confuse the *LarryDrewSystem*
as anything remotely resembling true motion offense.
The “LDS”
*(or as I dubbed it this AM as) ["LD & the Headless Fowl"]
Grandad
April 11th, 2011
6:11 pm
Slimjr – Co-Sign
No correlation:
I’m firmly behind our Preident of these here United States of America.
Hawks are fun and games = nobody’s life at stake.
Sports are a diversion from the real world.
Another topic for another day.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
6:13 pm
Seeing as how the Hawks players have made it very clear they have no intention of going all out in any of these final regular season games, what’s the point of playing Smoove and Marvin at all tonight? Or Joe and Al for that matter?
The Game Has Changed
April 11th, 2011
6:17 pm
@Slimjr-Just like Josh and Woody kept coming to blows . Same thing bro. Yes I remember the Nets went to back to back finals. Josh didnt like Woody because he stayed on Josh az. His system just needs a few adjustments. A player like R. Hamilton is missing. We dont have it. Jamal and Joe are scorers not shooters. Give the man time. Drew and Obama
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
6:20 pm
From espn.com and Marc Stein’s Power Rankings;
I know Jason Collins is the supposed Dwight Stopper. I’m also well aware of Atlanta’s 3-1 edge in the season series. I just can’t forget how uninspired the Hawks, 10-15 since the All-Star break, have looked for weeks..
The Game Has Changed
April 11th, 2011
6:20 pm
@Grandad-Im just saying they are in the same boat. Cleaning up some ones elses mess. First Drew had to clear there thinking from the previous 8 yrs just like Obama. lol
lewis
April 11th, 2011
6:30 pm
nothing to say
mykhalc
April 11th, 2011
6:38 pm
nothin’ to watch…even worse
steve brown
April 11th, 2011
6:42 pm
Just watched Magnum. 7 foot, can dribble and shoot a real jump shot. Sign him quick for 6 years at $60 million. Sund is a boy genius.
W.R.Terrell
April 11th, 2011
6:51 pm
We play Miami and after the 32 point blistering by Washington I wonder why show this game period. I am going to watch because the Hawks are my team and I am very disappointed in the effort these millionaires put forth. The good news is that LD’s sorry behind is gone after the playoffs and maybe some of the useless baggage will be shipped out with him. Who can say a 50 point defecit tonight?
I hope not but who the hell can figure this bad, bad team out. Very disappointing season and the fans of Atlanta do not deserve this at all, no fan base should hav to watch a bunch of guys who just don’t care. I have heard that the fans do not show up for the games so they need not bitch. The thing is that these guys are getting paid to perform, case closed.
cp
April 11th, 2011
6:52 pm
I remember watching Rolle play in the summer league. He was solid but it was the summer league.
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
6:53 pm
Since Marvin injured his ankle against Washington, why not hold him out of this game (to rest), and let Marvin play some minutes in the last game of the season?
Rev in Tampa
April 11th, 2011
6:54 pm
“Lets me add one more thing. Forget about this C. Paul and D. Williams crap. What have they done the last five years in the playoffs. And they have both had a better supporting cast. We gonna be aight. Go Hawks.”
Let this be a warning to you kids out there. Drinking and blogging is not safe.
Keith Helms
April 11th, 2011
6:58 pm
They are already beat because the owners, management, and leadership are not trying to win. Yes, that includes some of the players.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:02 pm
Come on Hawks . . at least make this game competitive until the very end. Make Lebron beat you on a 3 pointer at the buzzer.
Roy
April 11th, 2011
7:03 pm
“This is irrelevant. The conference is stronger by virtue of the top teams having improved. Yes, your stat holds true because the bottom teams correspondingly are worse this year than last year, but from the point of view of a playoff team, the bottom teams going from bad to worse is irrelevant since they were easy wins anyway.”
Incorrect. This stat is very relevant as it a simplistic means of identifying the quantitative struggle of the Eastern Conference, as a whole, and you mentioned before that the “conference has improved”. Well, clearly, the conference as a whole has not improved. If the teams in the East individually improve and provide greater competition for one another, then the inter-conference wins/losses would balance out, since a formerly elite team may have less wins, while a formerly poor team may have more, however, the total losses in the conference would remain about the same. In this case, the number is almost the same, but it is going to get worse, which provides evidence of one thing – the Eastern conference, as a whole, has done worse against the Western Conference this season. Whether or not you want to cite that as evidence of the Western Conference being stronger or the East being weaker is up to you, but this is still evidence, as a whole, that the East is not tougher, overall, than it was last season. The regular season records, the playoff standings, the collective losses, etc. all provide evidence of why the East, as a whole is not stronger this season than last.
Also, the bottom teams have not gone from bad to worse. I’m going to assume by “bottom teams” you are referring to teams that did not make the postseason in the East last season. In that case, you are referring to the Toronto Raptors (40-42 last season, 22-58 this season), Indiana Pacers (32-50 last season, 37-44 this season) , New York Knicks (29-53 last season, 42-38 this season), Detroit Pistons (27-55 last season, 29-51 this season), Philadelphia 76ers (27-55 last season, 41-39 this season), Washington Wizards (26-56 last season, 22-58 this season) and New Jersey Nets (12-70 last season, 24-56 this season). As those stats indicate, only 2 of those 7 teams are worse this season than they were last season, based upon record. This is evidence, that if anything has improved in the East it’s been the bottom half of the conference which has mildly improved, while the playoff teams have, collectively, regressed in terms of combined record. In fact, even the worst team in the conference this season (Cleveland at 17-63) is not quite as bad as the worst team in the conference last season (New Jersey at 12-70). So, clearly, your argument for the “bottom teams going from bad to worse” doesn’t hold up here. And, yes, this is very relevant “from the point of view of playoff team”, since if what you are suggesting is true, we would see a very top-heavy east with the top teams having inflated records based upon beating up on the bottom feeders in the conference. You don‘t see that this season to as much of an extent as you did last season, since the bottom teams are slightly more respectable this season. The, overall conference is near equal, but the greatest improvements, have actually been amongst non-playoff teams from last season, along with Chicago.
“Put it this way — a playoff team is going to beat this year’s 21 win Wizards team just as easily as they beat last year’s 26 win Wizards team. It’s going to show up the same way in the standings. Are they going to beat this year’s 60 win Chicago team as easily as they beat last year’s 41 win Chicago team? No way. Are the Magic and Hawks, who each play the Heat four times, as likely to do as well against them this year as they did last year? No way.”
This is not put into proper context since you fail to look at the bigger picture. What you are saying here is correct, but look at the flip side of it. Are teams this season going to have as tough of a time defeating this year’s 17 win Cleveland team as they did defeating last season’s 61 win Cleveland team? Obviously, no, they are not. Cleveland is now the conference doormat. Similarly, are the Magic and Hawks, who each play the Bobcats four times, as likely to have difficulties against them this year as they did last year? No, because Charlotte has regressed significantly. Similarly, are teams going to have trouble facing the Bucks this season, the way many did last season. Of course not, not to the extent that they did last season. The point is, you can pick out one or more scenarios to try and improve your argument, but when you put things into context and look at the big picture, things balance out. I’ll repeat it again, for each team that is stronger, another one is weaker. This illusion of the “conference being better” is simply the result of the balance of power shifting in the East. Teams which were formerly elite (the Cavs) have fallen, while others whom were formerly mediocre (the Bulls) have taken their place.
“Comparing last year’s standings to this year, the Cavs, Hawks, Bucks, Raptors, and Bobcats have gotten significantly worse. The other 10 teams in the conference are either improved or at roughly the same level.” There is a significant difference between winning 59 games and winning 50 games, and the Magic are currently on pace for winning 52 games at best. I know that 7 wins is not a huge deal when you think about it, in general, but making the jump from 52 to 59 wins is quite impressive. It becomes very difficult to improve once you hit that 50+ win plateau. I just thought I’d point that out, since I don’t consider the Magic to be quite at “roughly the same level” as last season. I, personally, think they are worse to a noticeable degree. Also, your argument here strengthens my initial one by showing that the power in the conference has shifted, but in the end, it all balances out. Some teams took meteoric collapses, while others had meteoric rises, and still others made minor improvements while others slightly regressed or stayed “roughly the same”, but in the end, it all balances out.
“And anyway, there is a qualitative aspect to this that goes beyond simply looking at records. I think it’s fair to say, for example, that this year’s Knicks team — on pace for about 43 wins — is a much more dangerous playoff opponent than last year’s Bobcats team, which won 44 games.”
What exactly are you basing this Knicks argument off of? Personal opinion? Because without some sort of statistical evidence, there is nothing to really back this up. I can understand you thinking that the Knicks would be more competitive due to the fact that they have more talent than the Bobcats had (that is also simply a point-of-view), but talent does not always equate to success (take the Hawks, for example). The Bobcats were actually a very respectable playoff team last season. They had one of the league’s top defenses, and played unselfish team basketball. They had a few very significant factors going for them that made them a legit threat to anyone. Sure, they got swept by the Magic, but the Magic were a juggernaut at the time, and would have swept most teams in the East in a series. The Bobcats lost every game in that series, but the games were competitive. I can’t say that the Bobcats weren’t dangerous. Against a team like the Hawks, they may have won the series, and even though the Hawks had a superior record, they were no competition at all for the Magic, whereas the Bobcats at least made the Magic work. As for the Knicks, what have they got going for them? They have some media-deemed “superstars” on the offensive end, but when you look at their team stats following the trade, they are not at the top of the league in any key area that shows positive signs of them being a legit threat. Based upon what we have seen from them so far following the trade, they are an inferior team to last season’s bobcats, and they are no more of a threat to any playoff team than the Bobcats were to any playoff team last season. The media can tend to give that impression and brainwash casual viewers with the idea that Knicks are an elite team and/or contender in the East, but that is primarily just to increase the viewer base and ratings. It doesn’t hold true in the basketball world yet. At this point, the Knicks are just another mediocre playoff teams with a couple of players with oversized egos. Until they prove that they are a legit threat, I will continue to view them as a team with talent and a bright future if they start to enforce defense and learn to utilize talent, otherwise they will continue to just be an average playoff team.
cp
April 11th, 2011
7:04 pm
I was hoping I could get the Heats feed but it looks like im stuck listening to Nique
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
7:10 pm
HAWKS FANS MAKE SOME NOISE!
YAWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:11 pm
Less of the starters = Jamal needs to score 35 for us to win
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:11 pm
LOL @ Roy . . . I know I write a lot, but damn. You wrote a novel.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:12 pm
Teague will have to play well too.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:12 pm
“I’m going to assume by “bottom teams” you are referring to teams that did not make the postseason in the East last season. ”
“As those stats indicate, only 2 of those 7 teams are worse this season than they were last season, based upon record. ”
Well, you’re assuming wrong. I’m talking about the worst teams in the conference collectively last year vs. the worst teams in the conference collectively this year. It’s not relevant whether those teams are the same this year or not. Just because a different group of teams sucked last year as compared to this year doesn’t mean the bottom teams as a whole are not worse. This year there will be at least three, and possibly four teams under 25 wins in the conference. Last year there was one. This is what I mean when I say the bottom of the conference as a whole has gotten worse.
“The point is, you can pick out one or more scenarios to try and improve your argument, but when you put things into context and look at the big picture, things balance out. I’ll repeat it again, for each team that is stronger, another one is weaker.”
When five teams in the conference get worse while the other 10 teams stay the same or get better, this is not true.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:13 pm
Wow . . well blow me down.
JJ misses a jumper, and a BIG is there for an offensive rebound and putback.
Balance
cp
April 11th, 2011
7:14 pm
an offensive rebound, I almost forgot what they looked like… Hinrich gets burned by Bibby smh
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:14 pm
“What exactly are you basing this Knicks argument off of? Personal opinion? Because without some sort of statistical evidence, there is nothing to really back this up.”
I’m basing this mainly off of watching both teams and understanding that a team with two superstars is going to make more noise in the playoffs than a team whose best player is Gerald Wallace. But with that said, it’s fair to contest the idea. If you think last year’s Bobcats are better than this year’s Knicks, I don’t have the stats to prove you wrong. But if the Knicks don’t get swept in the first round this year, I think it’s fair to say my position on this is correct.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:17 pm
2 offensive rebounds already . . leading to 3 points.
Wow
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:18 pm
Wow, I know this game means nothing, but that’s a lot of empty seats for a game against Miami. The 7 PM start always means half the crowd won’t show up on time, but still, a little surprising.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:18 pm
There you go Smith . . . play like a big and work their azz.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
7:18 pm
lol @ Joe yelling at mike when he was about to line up that 3.. forcing him to pass it..
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:19 pm
Great pass from Marvin to Al
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:19 pm
Hawks are really making an effort to get the ball inside so far.
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
7:19 pm
The rest look like it helped Josh.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:20 pm
Bibby has already driven inside more in this quarter than he did as a Hawk all season.
cp
April 11th, 2011
7:21 pm
Hinrich cant keep Bibby in front of him. Why is Hinrich starting?
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
7:22 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:20 pm
Bibby has already driven inside more in this quarter than he did as a Hawk all season.
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
7:22 pm
co-sign
Jerome
April 11th, 2011
7:22 pm
The Heat fans are definitely in the building tonight.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:24 pm
Smith looks great tonight.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
7:27 pm
Damn, Bibby looking better than Kirk.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:27 pm
I do like the fact that JJ has looked to drive almost every time. That’s what he has to do.
Come on Al . . don’t let Bosh overpower you for the rebound.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:28 pm
Uh oh . . don’t tell me that Teague is back in the “doghouse” already. He’s going to be the 9th or 10 man off the bench.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:29 pm
At least from the sound of it, pretty much every Heat fan in the house is a female.
drmaryb (*_-)
April 11th, 2011
7:29 pm
Sharing is Caring!
Hawks sharing the ball very well tonight! Reminiscent of the first thirteen games of the season. Let’s keep the passing fron side to side up fellas.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:29 pm
Teague Party!
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
7:30 pm
TEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:30 pm
And despite Teague being in the game, Jamal continues to run the point. WTF…
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:32 pm
The Hawks have missed at least three shots right at the rim.
drmaryb (*_-)
April 11th, 2011
7:32 pm
Josh tsaying away from that jumper? Nice, because he’s back on the post rebounding! Those put backs will fall eventually. He’s got to get his timing back.
Marvin raised his pain threshold level? Nice.
Roy
April 11th, 2011
7:33 pm
“But if the Knicks don’t get swept in the first round this year, I think it’s fair to say my position on this is correct.”
It’s kind of tough just to base whether or not the Knicks are better based upon whether or not they are able to win even 1 game in a series in the playoffs, but I get what you are saying. How the Knicks do in the playoffs will definitely say a lot about how good they really are though.
Sleepy
April 11th, 2011
7:34 pm
Najeh if the play call is a high screen and roll for jamal why do you need for Teague to bring the ball up ? Some of you are straight up anal about this stuff .
If teague can only be on the floor when hes able to bring the ball up then why do you wonder about why he hadnt been playing more when he plays with several other players who can push the rock ?
Jerome
April 11th, 2011
7:34 pm
It’s kind of funny how L.D. mentioned that he wanted to play Josh limited minutes, yet Josh is the last starter to leave the floor in this game. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised knowing that L.D. tends to do the opposite what he says.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:34 pm
If you’re going to play Josh Powell in the first quarter, clearly you are not trying to win. So what’s the point of playing an injured Smoove and Marvin?
LD makes no sense.
Melvin
April 11th, 2011
7:35 pm
ZaZa caught the ball in the paint (and didnt even look at the goal) only to pass it Jamal for a 3pt shot…
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:37 pm
SHUT THE F-CK UP NIQUE TEAGUE ISN’T EVEN GETTING A CHANCE TO INITIATE THE OFFENSE QUIT PICKING ON HIM
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
7:37 pm
Dominique is a joke.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:37 pm
LOL @ Nique
My nephew is open in the corner. Don’t you shoot it . .get it to him.
Melvin
April 11th, 2011
7:38 pm
Nique was all over Teague for not passing the ball to Damien but did not say anything when Teague hit the shot…LOL
cp
April 11th, 2011
7:39 pm
smh@Nique getting mad at Teague again for not passing Damien the ball but says nothing when Teague hits the shot.
Sautee
April 11th, 2011
7:40 pm
On air nepotism at it’s best!
Roy
April 11th, 2011
7:40 pm
““The point is, you can pick out one or more scenarios to try and improve your argument, but when you put things into context and look at the big picture, things balance out. I’ll repeat it again, for each team that is stronger, another one is weaker.”
When five teams in the conference get worse while the other 10 teams stay the same or get better, this is not true.”
Just because some teams have improved, others have still gotten worse, and you are ignoring the fact that no matter how major the improvements of some teams have been, the collective regression by other teams has been worse, which is why the total number of losses this season by Eastern conference teams is less than the total following last season. I think you are missing my point here, but I’m honestly pretty tired of wasting time writing up these arguments for a lost cause. I’d like to just watch the game now, so let’s just agree to disagree. It’s clear that we are not seeing eye-to-eye on this.
lewis
April 11th, 2011
7:41 pm
lester conner’s advice on the fastest fast breaking teams
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
7:42 pm
Lester Conners would have made a better coach then LD.
Roy
April 11th, 2011
7:42 pm
Correction on my last post: the total number of losses this season by Eastern conference teams is GREATER than the total following last season
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:42 pm
Is anyone on this team going to box out?
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:43 pm
Terrible defense by Powell
lewis
April 11th, 2011
7:44 pm
anyone other than powell
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
7:44 pm
Nique wants Teague gone.
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
7:45 pm
Dumb-nique the Teague hater lol.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:45 pm
TEAGUE
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:45 pm
Nephew missed the rebound Nique . . . call it like it is.
Nice floater by Teague.
cp
April 11th, 2011
7:46 pm
Teague is looking good out there. He should be starting over Hinrich
Wabe
April 11th, 2011
7:46 pm
Free Jeff Teague.
Jerome
April 11th, 2011
7:47 pm
LOL @ Bob. How is Miami “underrated” on defense? Everyone recognizes that they are one of the best defensive teams in the league. You never hear people knocking the Heat defense.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:47 pm
“Nephew missed the rebound Nique . . . call it like it is.”
Haha I noticed that too. When Damien screws up it’s “Hawks did this” or “Hawks need to do that”. When it’s Teague, he gets called out by name. F-ck Nique.
lewis
April 11th, 2011
7:47 pm
i don’t claim to know anything about basketball but I really do think Teague will prove to be a fighter and a winner
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
7:48 pm
“Dumbinique Wilkins” LMAO
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:48 pm
“Elite company in the Hawks franchise” = winning the Special Olympics
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:49 pm
Josh Powell really is a horrible, horrible defender.
cp
April 11th, 2011
7:49 pm
lol yea northcyde seems like Nique had no comment about Damien missing that board although he was just talking about boxing out
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:50 pm
Teague with the steal on Wade
Jerome
April 11th, 2011
7:50 pm
We are very likely going to lose this game. Not just because Miami is the better team, but because they are playing to actually win this game since they are trying to lock up that #2 seed. As a result, they are playing with their regular rotations, whereas the Hawks are having starters log only minor minutes, and the players are likely not putting a lot of emphasis on this game.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
7:50 pm
the team forces turnovers w/ Teague on the floor.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:51 pm
Joel Anthony is just dominating the Hawks’ backup big men on the boards.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:51 pm
Yeah nephew . . be on the attack
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
7:52 pm
but Nique..
Jamal was in the corner spotting up.. shouldnt he have “given it up”?
smh..
good d Damien.. and take. more mins for u and Jeff..
bghawk
April 11th, 2011
7:52 pm
teague is a one man wrecking crew at least for our standards
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:53 pm
Oh well . . nice job Teague and Jamal
Time for the starters to come back.
Jae Evolution
April 11th, 2011
7:53 pm
Nice Jamal, try to split three people, good job.
Sautee
April 11th, 2011
7:53 pm
LOL @ bigdave
cp
April 11th, 2011
7:54 pm
wtf Jamal with the hotsauce impression
bgdawg
April 11th, 2011
7:54 pm
i still dont understand why teague doesnt start for us…
Wabe
April 11th, 2011
7:54 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
7:47 pm
“Haha I noticed that too. When Damien screws up it’s “Hawks did this” or “Hawks need to do that”. When it’s Teague, he gets called out by name. F-ck Nique.”
Glad others have noticed this as well.
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
7:55 pm
When you know you are going to lose, and you are only playing your starters a few minutes, anyway, it’s really pointless to play the starters at all. It’s not going to help them in the playoffs to play for 10 minutes in a meaningless game. L.D. is so lost as a coach.
bgdawg
April 11th, 2011
7:56 pm
wtf even pachulia is taking jumpshots?
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
7:56 pm
From what we have seen, if teague was getting PT all season, would Kirk have been any better than Jeff?
Wabe
April 11th, 2011
7:57 pm
The Hawks aren’t laying down in this one…
At least from an effort standpoint. They’re playing this game to win. You could see it in their defensive intensity early. If they do lose or get whopped, it has nothing to do with the fact that they’re not playing hard. They’re trying…
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
7:58 pm
lol Zaza . . wtf was that?
steve brown
April 11th, 2011
7:58 pm
as I have noted in the past Nique is horrid as a commentator.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
7:58 pm
Teague better than Hinrich. And I’m sick of Jamal and all his tricky dribbling. How can Teague develop watching crap like that night after night? This aint the freakin Globetrotters. Get Jamal outta here. Start Teague AT PG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bgdawg
April 11th, 2011
7:59 pm
northcyde i believe zaza had a brain lapse
cp
April 11th, 2011
7:59 pm
I dont get LD’s subs. I wouldnt bring Kirk back in. He has done this a few times recently, take out Teague who is playing well to bring back Kirk who has done nothing
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:00 pm
Hawks can’t score on the Heat inside with Zydrunas Ilgauskas on the floor. It’s the Cleveland series from two years ago all over again.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:00 pm
That’s a horrible call. Everybody in the league does that move, and they’re gonna call JJ for palming?
Rusty
April 11th, 2011
8:02 pm
Hey jj is doing his job, missing his shot so we can get the rebound,I guess this is why we pay him 123 m for. Or at least this is what nortcyde thinks.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:02 pm
Kirk is looking like a “lateral move”. lol. Hate to say it, but he is.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:02 pm
DAmn . . . Lebron loves Philips Arena
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:02 pm
This is where the Heat are going to look to turn it into a blowout. LeBron for 3. If the Hawks can’t respond this is going to be the March gamea gainst Miami all over again.
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
8:03 pm
Damn, Joe sure is selfish. He had Al in front of him in a mismatch in the post with Wade on behind Al, and instead of just passing the ball to Al in the post, he hogs it and tries to be the hero and turns the ball over. Just dumb basketball there.
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
8:04 pm
cp,
LD is going to say he brought Kirk back in because he wants to get him in rhythym for the playoffs.
But Teague has outplayed him (imo, Bibby outplayed him).
Sautee
April 11th, 2011
8:05 pm
Walter Ray,
Joe was saving Al the embarrassment of Wade blocking his shot.
Joel
April 11th, 2011
8:05 pm
“I dont get LD’s subs. I wouldnt bring Kirk back in. He has done this a few times recently, take out Teague who is playing well to bring back Kirk who has done nothing”
L.D. is just an idiot. A lot of people don’t understand what he is doing, because most of the time, it doesn’t make any sense. L.D. is a master of poor decision making when it comes to basketball.
drmaryb (*_-)
April 11th, 2011
8:05 pm
Impactful?
When is Al going to make an impact? I haven’t heard his name at all tonight! Play Teague!
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:05 pm
Crusty . . it’s still about balance.
He’s a guy that this team needs to score and score big. He just can’t quit shooting the ball and defer to non-scorers . We don’t have enough offensive firepower on this team for him to do that.
So if he misses, and one of the bigs get the rebound, the possession is still alive for us to score.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
8:05 pm
actually its a move down since we traded practically 2 draft picks, evans and bibby for someone who wasnt starting for his own team.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:06 pm
Marvin has it going tonight.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:06 pm
The Heat want to end this game right now.
cp
April 11th, 2011
8:06 pm
Marvin has played well so far but man Lebron cant be stopped
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:08 pm
Good lord.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
8:08 pm
blowout time in ATL
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
8:08 pm
yea just let em dunk..
bunch of softies.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:08 pm
Cue the Hawks folding.
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
8:09 pm
JJ, 2-7 FG, and his first trip to the line in 14 minutes
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:09 pm
I just want Drew to start Teague one time with the starters. Just to see what will happen.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:09 pm
LD must be hoping for an injury, so he’ll have an excuse???
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
8:10 pm
Time to go night, night.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:10 pm
Nice move by Marvin.
Miami shooting 60%
Melvin
April 11th, 2011
8:10 pm
These guys are just toying with the Hawks…
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:10 pm
Nice drive Marvin.
Doesn’t matter though. This game ended when Wade got his uncontested dunk over Kirk and Marvin. That dunk was the signal for folding time.
cp
April 11th, 2011
8:10 pm
O’Brien I wouldnt be shocked if LD really does come out and say that. I truly dont understand why Hinrich continues to start.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
8:11 pm
if the score gets bad enough in the 3rd maybe teague can score 20 again!
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
8:11 pm
“Walter Ray,
Joe was saving Al the embarrassment of Wade blocking his shot”
LOL. Joe should have been focusing on saving himself from his own embarrassment.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
8:12 pm
great help Marvin.. smh.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:12 pm
What you have to say about that defense by Damien Nique?
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:12 pm
Horrible D by Damien . . come on Nephew
cp
April 11th, 2011
8:12 pm
lol@terrell. I was actually thinking that earlier today.
lewis
April 11th, 2011
8:14 pm
marvins had it going for awhile. no lie
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
8:14 pm
It will be a great day when Larry Drew is no longer the coach of the Hawks.
Sleepy
April 11th, 2011
8:15 pm
LOL @ bsg3003 Thats what it seems like some of these posters want to happen .
We getting pounded on the boards again 23-13 and the heat has 8 offensive boards
Our starting 5 has 8 rebounds while Lebron by himself has 7
yet super teague will save us
lukas
April 11th, 2011
8:15 pm
Wow!! even LD knows he’s going to get fire after the 1st round exit. What has happened to his team, besides JJ crippling contract?
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:16 pm
Hawks players are just your avg Joe’s. Ld is just your avg idiot. FREE TEAGUE LIKE YOU FREED JORDAN.
drmaryb (*_-)
April 11th, 2011
8:17 pm
Steve Holman
“A Lay-Up! A Lay-Up! Wade just went past Damien Wilkins like his shoes were cemented to the FLOOR! And that’s how the end the quarter! Giving the Heat 62 points!”
Steve is disgusted too! Play Teague 48 minutes, he deserves that.
__________________
What is Boston doing in Washington? Hawks playing no defense and Al is nowhere to be found! What is going on?
drmaryb (*_-)
April 11th, 2011
8:18 pm
Josh has 5 off boards! Nice!
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
8:19 pm
“LD is going to say he brought Kirk back in because he wants to get him in rhythym for the playoffs.
But Teague has outplayed him (imo, Bibby outplayed him).”
Great point. This is probably exactly what L.D. would say if he were asked about the situation. By the way, I agree that Bibby has outplayed Kirk on the offensive end. Hinrich is better than Bibby defensively, but I think Bibby helped the team out more offensively since he was a good at making open shots, did not consume a large amount of the team’s attempts, and he was a pass-first point guard. Kirk, on the other hand, only adds to the ball-hogging problem that we already have here by trying to do too much offensively and taking a lot of bad shots. That’s the last thing we need on the offensive end is someone who wants overdribble and take more long, contested jumpers.
Rusty
April 11th, 2011
8:19 pm
God at the 6 min time in 1st quarter it looks like kh can’t handle mb. He has driven around kh as if he wasn’t present.
W.R.Terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:20 pm
We are at halftime 62 – 46 Miami. A 16 point defecit at the moment is not too bad it could be worse. I’m thinking the “SOFT’S” got em right where they want em and will pull off an amazing upset and win by 10. By the way I have some land for sale and will be glad to talk with you about buying some serious beach front property in Japan. I can give you one helluva deal. I’m going to get ready for the 2nd half because I know there will be screams and yells as we watch the “SOFT’S” do what they do best.
Sleepy
April 11th, 2011
8:20 pm
Kirk is a ballhog and takes bad shots but Teague is pass first ROFLMAO
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
8:21 pm
drmaryb,
I like Steve Holman’s emotion when calling the games. He’s a big-time homer, but at least he calls it like it is when it comes to the Hawks making mistakes. He doesn’t try to sugar-coat things, he calls the Hawks out when they play like garbage. At least someone in the Hawks media is brave enough to do so. All Bob and ‘Nique do is make excuses for the team, but I can’t necessarily blame them, after all, they get paid to help promote the team.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
8:22 pm
my main question is…whats the point of drafting someone in the first round if they are just gonna rot on the bench. teague has blazing speed that no one on this team can even touch. he even developed himself a floater that consistently goes in! and he plays defense better than most one the team, what else could someone want??
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
8:23 pm
“God at the 6 min time in 1st quarter it looks like kh can’t handle mb. He has driven around kh as if he wasn’t present.”
Kirk is an excellent defender though. Mike Bibby must just be one of those few elite PGs that Kirk is just over-matched against…
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:24 pm
BK wanted to fire Woody, ASG said he’s their guy. Sund wanted to hire Dwayne Casey, Asg wanted Uncle Larry. lol. I’d take Casey or Woody oer Larry in a NY minute.
Joel
April 11th, 2011
8:27 pm
“I’d take Casey or Woody oer Larry in a NY minute.”
I think just about anyone would. What positive thing does Larry Drew even bring to the table for an NBA team?
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:27 pm
They have 100 level seats for the Hawks-Magic playoff series on Stubhub for under $50. If the Hawks keep playing the way they are right now I might be able to get them for $30 by the time Game 3 rolls around.
W.R.Terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:28 pm
Ok time to watch trickball Jamal and the rest of the “SOFT’S” do whatever they do
lukas
April 11th, 2011
8:28 pm
Does anyone have a link for the game please?
cp
April 11th, 2011
8:29 pm
Like I said the other day, the Hawks might have the worst collection of back up bigs in the league
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:30 pm
Hawks starters would make a nice bench for a contender.
Slimj4
April 11th, 2011
8:30 pm
Lets see 16 times 2= 32 point win.That sounds about right another beat down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:30 pm
they really do @ cp . . . just a horrible collection.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:30 pm
Bibby bricks a 3 while Kirk’s high basketball IQ is telling him to look at the basket.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:31 pm
Come on KIRK . . . can you make a PG type play?
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:31 pm
lukas, try atdhe.fm
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:31 pm
NO one under the board with Smith taking that jumper.
Sleepy
April 11th, 2011
8:32 pm
Everyones whining about who they would prefer as coach now lol when none of those coaches would consider this team because the ownership and fans made certain players untouchable or the “the core” so what quality coach is gonna come into a situation where after simply making the playoffs the fanbase and ownership wont give him the ability to evaluate and make changes to his team as fit .
Thats why Drew is here because no top tier coach will take on a gig like that with those limitations when you arent talking about true superstar players .
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:32 pm
And it wasn’t necessarily a bad shot from Smith . . it;s justg that no one was under the boards.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:32 pm
WTF is Kirk doing not passing to Al on that break?
cp
April 11th, 2011
8:33 pm
lol Hinrich
Slimj4
April 11th, 2011
8:33 pm
Drew will be back..Lottery team by 2013…..
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
8:33 pm
shouldve passed the ball.. or dunked it.
START JEFF TEAGUE!
lukas
April 11th, 2011
8:33 pm
Najeh,
Already tried. Is not working.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:33 pm
Refs trying to keep this game close.
LOL. . I can’t believe that Bibby was trying to take Kirk off the dribble.
Wow Kirk . . get out the game please.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:33 pm
If Kirk isn’t hitting those jumpers, he’s pretty useless. I remember saying the exact same thing about Bibby in January.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:34 pm
That… was a horrible offensive possession.
Sleepy
April 11th, 2011
8:35 pm
look at all the pretty jumpshots ……….
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:35 pm
Kirk 0 – 6 . . . damn . . and the horrible turnover
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:35 pm
Yeah, Teague really sucks. Good thing he’s on the bench and Kirk is running the point with his high basketball IQ.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
8:35 pm
Jordan Crawford right there folks.
cp
April 11th, 2011
8:36 pm
since when did the fans have controll over roster moves?
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:36 pm
Hinrich looks awful. I’m sorry.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
8:36 pm
thats what you call a momentum play..
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:36 pm
There you go Smith . . nice break by JJ and Smith.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:36 pm
Bibby drives past Kirk and gets a reverse layup. LMAO
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
8:36 pm
Bibby killin.
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
8:37 pm
Kirk being outplayed outscored by Bibby..SMH
Is this what we gave up 2 first round picks for?
cp
April 11th, 2011
8:37 pm
please bench Hinrich
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
8:37 pm
we traded crawford for this fool???
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:37 pm
I actually used to be a Kirk fan. I liked his game. But really, though, since that early March game where the Hawks beat the Bulls, Kirk has looked pretty bad.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:39 pm
That trade is looking worse by the minute. I thought Kirk was supposed to be this great defender? Well where is he? Jammer will eat this guy alive. Hope he’s just taking it easy out there.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:40 pm
WTF is Nique talking about “the Heat will let you back in the game”? When is the last time the Hawks got back into a game where they were trailing?
Seriously, when?
Jae Evolution
April 11th, 2011
8:40 pm
Won’t be surprised if we go into the playoffs on a 7 game losing streak, I applaud Josh Smith for coming back and showing us all your well rested, also I’ve only seen you take one jumper.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
8:40 pm
the body language of Joe is telling..
Jamal goes over to him and say, iso time..
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:40 pm
He only has 8 shots too Bob . . . the problem is that he’s drawing a double team and he’s looking to pass. Tell Kirk to hit the wide open jumpers, and he’d have 8 points and 7 assists by now.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
8:41 pm
and i used to be a jamal crawford fan until he completely destroyed this woman’s million dollar home.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:41 pm
Superstar move
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
8:42 pm
Poop..
they will, b/c their offense too can become stagnant..
but of course to get back into the game we must be able score, which is clearly a problem.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
8:42 pm
20 points lead! bring in TEAGUE!!!!
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:42 pm
Smith got him back. Good job.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:42 pm
Jamal thinks he’s a globetrotter. lol. Still trying to get fouled on 3′’s. lol
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
8:43 pm
lol @ Josh dad talking sh!t to Mike.. lol
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:43 pm
lmao . . wtf?
That;s like the 4th time Bibby has driven to the hole.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:43 pm
Now it’s Jamal’s turn to let Bibby drive right past him. That’s 4 drives to the hoop in this game for Bibby. I’m really curious to know how many drives to the hoop Bibby had all year for the Hawks.
cp
April 11th, 2011
8:43 pm
well this game looks about over
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:44 pm
Another drive by Bibby, but he passed it.
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
8:44 pm
From Mark Bradley;
Kirk Hinrich is going to the locker room. Apparently he’s injured.
MC, any news…
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:44 pm
LD still playin Jamal at pg. Wow! Unbelievable.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:45 pm
Wow . . . another drive
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
8:45 pm
Dang, who is this Mike Bibby guy?
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:46 pm
There you go ref . . if you’re going to call that palming ish on JJ, you need to call it on Wade . . because he does it all the time.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:46 pm
Heat are shooting 58.5%.
Jae Evolution
April 11th, 2011
8:46 pm
Bibby has made more layups/floaters in this game than I’ve ever seen him even take as a Hawk…pathetic man.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:47 pm
Good, FREE TEAGUE. Just kidding. Hope he’s ok. Not that it matters cause We’d be just as good with Teague satrting.(prolly better) But hope he’s ok.
Sleepy
April 11th, 2011
8:47 pm
LOL @ at all the OMG Bibbys driving to the hole comments from the same haters that wanted him ran out of town .
Driving to the hole is NEVER about the perimeter defender in the NBA its about whose in the paint . The bigger your stable for quality bigs who can defend the better your team will be .
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
8:48 pm
I just can’t get over how selfish Joe is. He gets the rebound, takes the ball down court and then doesn’t even look to pass it once and goes in for a contested floater and misses the shot. Who does this guy think he is? Either the coaching staff has really brainwashed him or he’s just plain as selfish as it gets.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:49 pm
Magnum Rolle is sitting on the bench thinking “I immediately regret this decision…”
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:49 pm
I never wanted him ran out of town Sleepy.
JJ is driving and creating. Smith making the open shot.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
8:49 pm
whoa josh is hittin his jumpers today
Joel
April 11th, 2011
8:50 pm
“Driving to the hole is NEVER about the perimeter defender in the NBA… ”
LMAO. I think you just lost all credibility with that statement.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:50 pm
“LOL @ at all the OMG Bibbys driving to the hole comments from the same haters that wanted him ran out of town .”
Just because they replaced him with someone who is no better than him doesn’t mean he didn’t need to go. It just means the guy they replaced him with also needs to go.
Free Jeff Teague
cp
April 11th, 2011
8:50 pm
Bibby has trouble with quick athletic pg’s but he isnt the game
Roger
April 11th, 2011
8:51 pm
LOL. Josh has continued his trend of leading the team in field goal attempts. It’s no surprise that he has taken more shots than anyone else on the team. Here’s yet another player on the Hawks team who thinks that he is better than he really is.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:52 pm
Walter Ray . . that’s BS.
JJ has taken a total of 9 shots in this game. Some of you act like JJ isn’t even supposed to shoot the ball, not even look for his own shot not one time.
And he’s been passing the ball all game because he’s been doubled the entire game.
When the dude has single coverage, he’s supposed to look to score. Every lead scorer in the NBA does that. But when JJ does it, all heck breaks loose.
That dude needs close to 20 shots a game for us to win in the playoffs, especially if we’re not going to play defense. If he doesn’t score, we’re dead/
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:52 pm
Celtics are leading the Wizards at Washington by 5. Starting lineup for the Celtics: Von Wafer, Delonte West, Jeff Green, Glen Davis, Jermaine O’Neal.
Celtics’ 2nd unit > Hawks starters.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:52 pm
LOOK as Smith . . with the step back jumper
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
8:52 pm
Wow josh is killi that outside shot!
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:53 pm
“Limited Minutes” Smoove is going to finish this quarter having played 24 minutes.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:54 pm
LMAO @ Zaza
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:54 pm
And Roger . . that’s BS too.
Josh has been working his butt off on the offensive glass, running in transition, and when JJ passes him the ball when he’s wide open, he’s taking the open shot.
Smith is 7 – 12 in this game. Why would people even complain about that.
I tell ya. . I don’t know what game some of ya’ll watch, with these comments.
Jae Evolution
April 11th, 2011
8:54 pm
The Hawks take any momentum whatsoever, and give it to the other team swear this team is the ultimate buzzkill.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:54 pm
lol @ Zaza
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:55 pm
8 – 13 now
Jae Evolution
April 11th, 2011
8:55 pm
LOL Zaza you are too funny.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:55 pm
Josh is our best player, but most of us refuse to believe it.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
8:55 pm
how long before nique criticizes teague again?
cp
April 11th, 2011
8:56 pm
wtf Jamal
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:56 pm
Great defense by Bibby. Just showing up our PGs.
Why hasn’t Teague gotten back into this game?
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:56 pm
They are using Teague/Jamal the exact same way they used Bibby/Joe. Teague gives Jamal the ball, sets a pointless screen for him, and lets Jamal go iso. WTF
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:56 pm
Damien finally did something right. Good shot.
Jae Evolution
April 11th, 2011
8:57 pm
Yeah Jamal, keep dribbling while the double is right in front of you YEAHHHH!
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:57 pm
After Jamal and Kirk make Bibby look like 2003 Bibby all game, Teague finally drives by him like the statue he was as a Hawk.
Nice shot by Damien.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
8:58 pm
Miami players and fans should be ashamed that this isnt a blowout. lol
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
8:58 pm
You know ‘Nique loved that last shot. LOL
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
8:58 pm
I can’t believe Dumbinique didn’t stick his hand out there to give him 5 on that one.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:59 pm
Smoove is 2nd in minutes played for the Hawks in this game, in his first game back from injury.
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
8:59 pm
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
8:58 pm
You know ‘Nique loved that last shot. LOL
Probably creamed his pants on that one.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
8:59 pm
Josh with 11 points in that quarter
Ole Hawks Fan
April 11th, 2011
8:59 pm
Kirk GETTING PUNKED by OF ALL PEOPLE……………………..MIKE BIBBY! Release Capt KIRK RIGHT NOW………………… Fire Woody Light
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:59 pm
“Probably creamed his pants on that one.”
I wonder if Rashan Michel charges extra for that.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:00 pm
Come on Hawks . .how about a quick 6 – 0 run to make this interesting
Ole Hawks Fan
April 11th, 2011
9:01 pm
Mega JJ isn’t worth The Max……………………….Highway Robbery!
Rusty
April 11th, 2011
9:01 pm
Nortcydevhe has to make shots to be effective.
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
9:02 pm
This is the same offense when Acie was here. He would hand off the ball, and then go stand in the corner
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:02 pm
LeBron and Wade get a lot less love than other teams’ stars do in Philips Arena, generally speaking.
Ole Hawks Fan
April 11th, 2011
9:02 pm
How many Points for Mega Contract and how many turn overs tonight?
cp
April 11th, 2011
9:02 pm
nice drive Teague
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:03 pm
Teague with the nice move.
Damien looks awkward when he drives, but it’s effective. He’s drawn fouls on that weird looking move in transition twice tonight.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:04 pm
Hawks’ 28th ranked bench looking a lot better than their top 10 starters in this game…
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:04 pm
But he still has to take those shots Crusty. JJ can’t take 12 shots a game, and we expect to win. Somebody else on the team will have to take up the scoring slack if that happens.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:04 pm
Either that . . or the team has to become lights out defensively.
Ole Hawks Fan
April 11th, 2011
9:05 pm
A Major League Umpire, a NBA refree and a Possum are crossing the highway together, which would you not run over? The Possum……………………………..lol.
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
9:05 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
8:59 pm
“Probably creamed his pants on that one.”
I wonder if Rashan Michel charges extra for that.
Jae Evolution
April 11th, 2011
9:05 pm
Why do the Hawks dig themselves in holes and then make a 4th quarter push to make a game out of it. Can they not just focus for the whole game like playoff teams do?
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
9:06 pm
From Mark Bradley;
The Drew-designed cutback on isolations for Joe Johnson have seen him go from being the NBA’s 11th-leading scorer last season to 26th-best now. (If the Hawks’ intent was to render Johnson less an offensive force, was it wise to sink $120 million into him?).
Sleepy
April 11th, 2011
9:08 pm
Jae its because it takes the coaching staff 3 quarters to find out what bigs are actually want to play.Once they find out which bigs want to play and go with them we instantly play better
lewis
April 11th, 2011
9:08 pm
a garbage can over powell
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:08 pm
Just shows the incompetence of the front office @ O’Brien
If you’re going to pay JJ that kind of money, people are going to have to quit crying everytime he goes ISO and misses a shot. You don’t pay him that kind of money to be a complimentary player.
SMH @ Zaza
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:09 pm
I don’t see how Mario Chalmers is better in any way than Teague, and he gets significant minutes for a better team than the Hawks.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:09 pm
2nd unit is playing with the energy they should be bringing every night.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:11 pm
“If you’re going to pay JJ that kind of money, people are going to have to quit crying everytime he goes ISO and misses a shot. You don’t pay him that kind of money to be a complimentary player.”
Allocating shots based on salary is a terrible idea. That quote from Mark Bradley is indicative of the fact that he has a background in journalism and not basketball.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
9:11 pm
Guarantee you, if this game meant something to the Hawks, LD’s dumba.. would put the starters back in. No matter how well the bench has played.
cp
April 11th, 2011
9:12 pm
smdh Josh Powell. good steal by Teague though
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
9:12 pm
Najeh,
Chalmers was starting for Miami for a while too.
Josh Powell just cost us 2 points…
lewis
April 11th, 2011
9:12 pm
once again, my grandmother over powell
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:12 pm
Zaza has fallen down more often than a Life Alert commercial in this game. Good energy from him though.
terrell
April 11th, 2011
9:13 pm
OK Nique, we know, it’s the 2nd unit.
Jae Evolution
April 11th, 2011
9:13 pm
Jeff looks like the PG we want to lead our franchise right now, he said I aint giving you the ball this time Jamal and took it strong.
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
9:13 pm
Watch LD do something to cost us the victory.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:14 pm
Would be nice if the Hawks — starters or bench — could play as cohesively as a unit all the time as the bench has in this 4th quarter. With no shot blockers on the floor, the Hawks have got it done on D with effective communication and rotation.
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
9:14 pm
Maybe Marvin’s “falling downitis” is contagious. I wonder if ZaZa has been hanging out with him…
Ole Hawks Fan
April 11th, 2011
9:14 pm
It is a shame that LD never developed a Second Unit.
cp
April 11th, 2011
9:15 pm
Damien has played well
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:15 pm
Teague directed traffic on that play. Clearing out Powell, getting it to Zaza when he saw that Powell was covered and Zaza was in better position to set him up. Good recovery by Powell to find Damien when he wasn’t able to finish the shot.
lewis
April 11th, 2011
9:16 pm
okay nique
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:16 pm
Amazing what can happen when your guards can break down the defense. Nice setup by Jamal that time.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:17 pm
Najeh . . you know good and well it not about allocating shots because of his salary. It’s about allocating him to do whatever it takes for him to make us a better team. If that means shooting the ball, so be it.
But using JJ as a decoy, and paying him all that money to play that role, is not going to fly. And because of the contract, people are going to expect a lot from him . . and they should.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:18 pm
Great job by the 2nd unit. I wonder how long Drew will go with them?
As long as they’re scoring and defending, let them close out the game.
Rusty
April 11th, 2011
9:18 pm
That idiot ld is one hell of a dumb ass.
lewis
April 11th, 2011
9:19 pm
Teague was takin the Bibster to school
ag
April 11th, 2011
9:20 pm
wow, been wasting time on Bradley’s blog… LETS GO HAWKS
lewis
April 11th, 2011
9:20 pm
LD – I never stopped believing in Teague
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:20 pm
“you know good and well it not about allocating shots because of his salary. It’s about allocating him to do whatever it takes for him to make us a better team. If that means shooting the ball, so be it. ”
I was referring more to Mark Bradley’s comment than yours. Bradley’s point is basically that paying Joe a max contract wasn’t a good idea if they weren’t going to give him the kind of shots that befit a max player. Like you say, it’s about putting him in the optimal position to make the Hawks a better team. Of course me and you disagree on whether that means Joe should shoot more or less, but the point is that the role on the team shouldn’t be dictated by the salary.
Personally, I think what the Sixers did by de-emphasizing Andre Iguodala’s role as a scorer would work perfectly for this team. But in order to do that, the other players on the team have to maximize their benefit to the team as well.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:20 pm
I mean . . the only way Horford or Smith gets extra shots, is if they go crash the offensive glass . . or if other people set up shots for them. They aren’t good shot creators. So someone has to set them up.
Keep the ball in JJ’s hands, and hope he consistently makes the right play. And if he has someone one on one, give him the green light to shoot, and tell the bigs to crash.
Wow . . what a pass by Zaza.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:21 pm
Powell got the best rebound he’s ever gotten as a Hawk
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:21 pm
LOL @ nique . . criticizing Teague again. Teague made the right play by shooting that floater. It just didn’t fall.
Rev in Tampa
April 11th, 2011
9:21 pm
Wow. what a rebound by teague
ag
April 11th, 2011
9:22 pm
Teague should have dunked on Bibby. I think he needs to call timeout.
cp
April 11th, 2011
9:22 pm
Zaza should have taken that jumper
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:23 pm
Z fight!
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
9:23 pm
Wow!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:23 pm
Always nice to see foreigners cussing. “F-cking bitch…” -Ilgauskas
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:23 pm
LOL @ the battle of the Z’s
cp
April 11th, 2011
9:24 pm
lol@Big Z.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
9:24 pm
lol big Z said F U B!TCH
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:24 pm
The trolls disappear whenever the Hawks play well.
lukas
April 11th, 2011
9:24 pm
LD sticking with the 2nd unit. Accountability?
Melvin
April 11th, 2011
9:24 pm
Get him ZaZa…
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
9:24 pm
lol @ Ilgauskas: “F*ck you. What are you gonna do, b*tch!?”. I didn’t know he had it in him to even talk like that.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:24 pm
Zaza has been doing what Zaza does best in this quarter. When he plays physically he is at his best.
Rev in Tampa
April 11th, 2011
9:24 pm
looks like my meeting at the church ended just in time. This is fun!
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
9:25 pm
drew looks stunned
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:25 pm
WTF Powell . . . horrible.
Melvin
April 11th, 2011
9:25 pm
Josh Powell, you big dummy….
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:25 pm
Josh Powell… damn.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:26 pm
Not the first dumb thing Powell has done this quarter either.
cp
April 11th, 2011
9:26 pm
Powell with another bad play. and it looks like the guys on the bench were getting on Bibby
lewis
April 11th, 2011
9:26 pm
we coulda won this game with anyone but josh powell
Jae Evolution
April 11th, 2011
9:27 pm
Josh Powell give, Josh Powell taketh away.
Freshfromatl
April 11th, 2011
9:27 pm
Leave the starters on the bench until the season is over!!!!! I would rather have guys that play with heart than a bunch of lazy-ass mofos!!!!
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
9:27 pm
lol powell is the one player who is tryimg to make us loose
ag
April 11th, 2011
9:27 pm
Couple of good plays for Powell before than bone-headed play. Guys, for the good play of the reserves, expect JT and Wilkins to get buried on the bench in the playoffs.
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
9:27 pm
Powell fouled James Jones with his a$$ on that play. That looked pretty funny on the replay.
gusman354
April 11th, 2011
9:28 pm
hahahahahahaha.LOSERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.hahahahahaahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Sleepy
April 11th, 2011
9:28 pm
Zaza should be starting we need that in the starting lineup
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
9:28 pm
the bench is playing better than the starters…..
gusman354
April 11th, 2011
9:29 pm
heat the better team,sorry pigeons jajajajajajajaja
cp
April 11th, 2011
9:29 pm
Powell is terrible
Melvin
April 11th, 2011
9:29 pm
Powell is terrible…
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
9:29 pm
Powell sucks.
gusman354
April 11th, 2011
9:29 pm
lets go HEAT jajajajajajajajaja
Rev in Tampa
April 11th, 2011
9:30 pm
its like doc said earlier today… You just don’t know which team is going to show up on any given night. After northcyde gave us the statistics that confirmed that the Hawks bench is one of the worst in the league we witness this. Up is down and down is up with this team.
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
9:30 pm
Airball Dumbinique.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:30 pm
No comment from Nique about that Damien air ball
Melvin
April 11th, 2011
9:30 pm
Damien should have passed to Teague for the open shot …
gusman354
April 11th, 2011
9:30 pm
james jonesssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:30 pm
Teague gets into the lane whenever he wants…
Rev in Tampa
April 11th, 2011
9:31 pm
nice move teague. I’m surprised he didn’t stop at half court to give it Crawford
Freshfromatl
April 11th, 2011
9:31 pm
LD should be fired for not starting Teague!!!!!!!!
gusman354
April 11th, 2011
9:31 pm
LOSERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS jajajajajaja
gusman354
April 11th, 2011
9:32 pm
not a chance loserssssssssssssssssss
Art Vandelay
April 11th, 2011
9:33 pm
“Teague gets into the lane whenever he wants…”
Seriously… and Bibby is guarding him. Game plan should be give the ball to Teague so he can blow past Bibby into the paint
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:33 pm
If that wasn’t a charge, it was going to be a travel. Powell should have held on to it.
northcyde
April 11th, 2011
9:33 pm
lol gusman . . . you struggle to beat our 2nd team, and you come on here talking crap? The Heat have looked horrible, outside of James Jones, this quarter.
tremaine
April 11th, 2011
9:33 pm
Miami getting all the whistles.
Melvin
April 11th, 2011
9:33 pm
Please waive Powell after this game….
Art Vandelay
April 11th, 2011
9:33 pm
NIQUE IS SUCH A TEAGUE HATER MY GOODNESS.
It makes me not like him…
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
9:33 pm
Powell just can’t do anything right (although he is efforting)
Rev in Tampa
April 11th, 2011
9:34 pm
wilkins lost his man on that layup.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:34 pm
Seriously, if my supposedly championship contending squad was struggling to beat one of the weakest benches in the league, sh-t talking would be the last thing on my mind.
gusman354
April 11th, 2011
9:34 pm
maybe next year LOSERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
9:34 pm
Well, this is obviously going to turn out to be a loss, but at least it was interesting for a while. It’s kind of a good thing that we lost, anyway. I don’t want anything to encourage Drew still being head coach next season. He needs to be let go as soon as possible if this team is going to ever have a chance at improving.
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
9:35 pm
“If that wasn’t a charge, it was going to be a travel. Powell should have held on to it.”
This is true. Everyone knows that RuPaul doesn’t take charges.
cp
April 11th, 2011
9:36 pm
and Powell with another bad play smh
lukas
April 11th, 2011
9:36 pm
gusman345,
Our WEAK BENCH outplayed your STARTING 5!! You should be worried dude!!
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
9:37 pm
Jamal throws up a 30+ ft’er Nique: “tough shot”
yet, Teague is picked apart for driving on Bibby and turning it over..
gusman354
April 11th, 2011
9:37 pm
JAJAJAJAJAJA MIAMI WINS IN YOUR HOUSE LOSERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Art Vandelay
April 11th, 2011
9:38 pm
Teague ends the game with another one of his failed floaters.
I hope he learns to drop those one day.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
9:38 pm
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
8:42 pm
“Poop..
(they will, b/c their offense too can become stagnant..)
but of course to get back into the game we must be able score, which is clearly a problem.”
Joel
April 11th, 2011
9:38 pm
Once again, it was pointless to play the starters at all in this game. Seriously, what did that accomplish. They could have gotten the same workout in practice, and they obviously aren’t gaining much in terms of chemistry by playing spotty minutes with Joe hogging the ball the majority of the time. This was pointless. Drew should have just played the bench for the entire game. Man, I just can’t stand Drew.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
9:38 pm
second group was far ,more interesting than the first
ag
April 11th, 2011
9:39 pm
Nique is a TEAGUE hater
gusman354
April 11th, 2011
9:39 pm
me worried JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
cp
April 11th, 2011
9:40 pm
that 4 point play killed all momentum. Powell had about 4 bad plays total in the quarter
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:40 pm
“(they will, b/c their offense too can become stagnant..)
but of course to get back into the game we must be able score, which is clearly a problem.””
I wonder if this comeback happens with the starters playing in the 4th, though.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
9:40 pm
Bigdave you called that one lol
Joel
April 11th, 2011
9:40 pm
“me worried JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA”
Do you need help locating the “H” key on your keyboard?
superiorblogman
April 11th, 2011
9:41 pm
Okay, I said I was gone but I lied. I could not pass up this chance to comment on how much better Teague is than Hinrich already and for that matter Bibby looks better than Hinrich. What a backwards move and bust of a trade. LMAO.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
9:41 pm
im pretty sure magnum coulda did better than powell
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:42 pm
If the Hawks’ second unit had someone who could score in the low post — a Carl Landry/Glen Davis type — they would be able to pose some serious problems for opposing teams. They could have used an inside scoring option in those last three minutes.
gusman354
April 11th, 2011
9:42 pm
GOOD NIGHT PIGEONS SEE YA NEXT TIME HAHAHAHAHA JAJAJAJAJAJJAA
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:43 pm
“Do you need help locating the “H” key on your keyboard?’
I think that’s how you laugh in Spanish.
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
9:44 pm
Maybe this is being overly negative, but that victory over Boston may be the last win we see for the rest of this season and postseason. Seriously, I don’t even think I’m exaggerating here. That very well could be the case.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
9:45 pm
“I wonder if this comeback happens with the starters playing in the 4th, though.”
no.
outside of Josh, nobody seemed to want to play.
glad Drew stayed w/ the bench they earned the right to win or lose the game. too bad we have Josh Powell..
i would’ve gone w/ another scrapper instead of a big that would try to do too much.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
9:45 pm
Walter ray the magic were our last W
cp
April 11th, 2011
9:45 pm
JC2 just sent the Boston game into overtime. Hinrich should be coming off the bench. That trade was terrible.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
9:47 pm
Teague
Joe
Damien
Josh
Al
Slim Shady
Jamal
Marvin
Josh/Al
ZaZa
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
9:49 pm
“Walter ray the magic were our last W”
Nope, that was the previous victory before Boston. Check the game logs. Our last victory was on 4/1 over Boston.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
9:50 pm
and Josh Smith w/ the momentum play to catapult the comeback effort..
im sorry but a 17fter from Al just doesnt do that.
Roland
April 11th, 2011
9:51 pm
LOL, it’s pretty bad when people can’t even remember when the last time the team won a game was. Wow, we sure have regressed. This team is a joke, far worse than the team from even 2 seasons ago.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
9:51 pm
If he keeps playing like this, I propose that he should be called Harry Potter, not Slim Shady.
Jerome
April 11th, 2011
9:53 pm
“and Josh Smith w/ the momentum play to catapult the comeback effort..
im sorry but a 17fter from Al just doesnt do that.”
I’m not sure this carries much weight. It’s a point of view coming from a guy who most people know loves to hate on Al. Most of the time though, a dunk is a bigger momentum play than a made jump shot, but it really just depends on the situation.
bsg3003
April 11th, 2011
9:54 pm
o… my bad i could have swore that we beat the magic before this losing streak.
Ole Hawks Fan
April 11th, 2011
9:55 pm
Keep Capt Kirk ON DA BENCH………………………Play Teague……………………Start Teague………….Play Sy………………………use JC1 like the Pacers used Reggie Miller……………………running around screens and pics………………….keep JC1 moving not bringing the ball up. He is NOT a PG Dumba__ LD. You are worst then Bob Weiss as a Coach.
Walter Ray
April 11th, 2011
9:56 pm
“If he keeps playing like this, I propose that he should be called Harry Potter, not Slim Shady.”
That’s even giving too much credit to Hinrich. He doesn’t any sort of “magic” when he’s on the court. How about we just call him a bum?
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
9:58 pm
I have been a fan of Hinrich for a while…but the last few games….I have not been impressed.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
10:01 pm
Jerome ..
actually the comment wasnt meant for interpretation in isolation. it was a carry over from previous dialogue from a blog or 2 ago.. where it was noted that Al having a high a pretty good shooting quarter shifted momentum in the Hawks play and effort. i contended that the team wasnt motivated at all by our big making a jump shot. him blocking a shot, or going to the hole strong resulting in a dunk or foul, yes. we went on to lose by 30+.
tonight Josh goes strong to the hole and dunks on a good shot blocker. immediately the play and energy picked up…
however, you can take it how you want it. are you notorious for taking up for defending Horford when he isnt even being criticized..?
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
10:04 pm
JC2…8-18 FGA, 17 pts, 6 assists, 5 turnovers, 2 rebs, in 45 minutes of PT
Jerome
April 11th, 2011
10:05 pm
“are you notorious for taking up for defending Horford when he isnt even being criticized..?”
I don’t think I post often enough to defend anyone. I wasn’t even defending Horford, just speaking my mind on the momentum play situation. I can’t think of anything that I am notorious for on this blog. I read the blogs pretty often, but, like I said, I don’t post very often.
O'Brien
April 11th, 2011
10:05 pm
bigdave,
The Hawks team have gone on record saying when Josh is doing his thing (dunking and blocking shots), he gets the whole team energized, and they feed off him. So I agree with your comment.
cp
April 11th, 2011
10:09 pm
I wonder how much LD will stick with Hinrich in the playoffs even if he’s struggling.
Malique
April 11th, 2011
10:12 pm
I love how people on this blog take shots at players even when they don’t even play in a game. The arguments are so irrational. Joe can make 1 mistakes 100 times over, and people will point it out every time, but if someone new or someone who people like, like Teague, makes the same mistake, people won’t even mind. Similarly, one player can do something positive over and over again, and never even be complimented for it, but once someone who is a fan favorite does it, they get all the praise. It’s funny. There’s a reason why blogs carry so little credibility. No offense to MC, his posts are usually well-thought out and have stats to support. I’m talking about the bloggers. It’s no surprise though. You can tell by the way the fan base in atlanta stacks up against other teams’ fan bases that the crowd here just doesn’t have much passion for the game, nor do they understand the game that well, collectively.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
10:13 pm
“I don’t think I post often enough to defend anyone. I wasn’t even defending Horford, just speaking my mind on the momentum play situation. I can’t think of anything that I am notorious for on this blog. I read the blogs pretty often, but, like I said, I don’t post very often.”
i wasnt asserting that you were only asking..
given you feel what i posted was ” It’s a point of view (coming from a guy who most people know loves to hate on Al.)”
u see how that works..
J from the A
April 11th, 2011
10:13 pm
O’Brien
April 11th, 2011
9:58 pm
“I have been a fan of Hinrich for a while…but the last few games….I have not been impressed.”
I have to fully agree. I’ve been defending Hinrich against the accusations that he really isn’t an upgrade over Bibby … well, I still think on the whole Hinrich is an upgrade over Bibby, but Hinrich sure hasn’t been helping me to make my case with games like tonight.
On the bright side, good to see Teague have another solid outing. He looks like he might be (almost?) ready!
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
10:15 pm
JC2…8-18 FGA, 17 pts, 6 assists, 5 turnovers, 2 rebs, in 45 minutes of PT
against one of the tougher perimeter defenders in the league Delonte West…
Rev in Tampa
April 11th, 2011
10:15 pm
“There’s a reason why blogs carry so little credibility.”
So what does that say about this sentence you posted on this blog?
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
10:16 pm
“JC2…8-18 FGA, 17 pts, 6 assists, 5 turnovers, 2 rebs, in 45 minutes of PT”
Rev in Tampa
April 11th, 2011
10:20 pm
JC2…8-18 FGA, 17 pts, 6 assists, 5 turnovers, 2 rebs, in 45 minutes of PT”
Hinrich…0-6 FGA, 1 pt, 3 assists, 2 turnovers, 0 rebs, in 17 minutes of PT
Ramon
April 11th, 2011
10:21 pm
bigdave,
You mention that Al’s play in the Washington game didn’t motivate the team at all, and it seems like you are suggesting that when he plays well and with emotion, it doesn’t motivate the team, but the team has gone on record for saying that when Al plays that way, it does get them fired up. Josh even said that himself after the Hawks victory over the Knicks at Philips arena when Al was taking it to amare and talking a bit of trash to get the fans into it. Also, the Hawks looked dead in the water against Chicago during that first game in March until Horford got fired up and completely took over the game. But, I guess you know everything. No one can do what Josh does. Another player playing well just doesn’t have the same impact. A dunk by Josh is just so much better than a dunk by anyone else. Keep blowing Josh after the games, just make sure you keep that stuff as private as possible.
cp
April 11th, 2011
10:22 pm
Malique your post has no credibility. Teaugue was catching nothing but criticism for most of the season on here. Hell he still does. Every guy on this team gets it so I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Rev in Tampa
April 11th, 2011
10:22 pm
JC2…8-18 FGA, 17 pts, 6 assists, 5 turnovers, 2 rebs, in 45 minutes of PT”
Hinrich…0-6 FGA, 1 pt, 3 assists, 2 turnovers, 0 rebs, in 17 minutes of PT
Jordan’s below 50% shooting is starting to look pretty good compared with what we’re gettng in exchange.
Jerome
April 11th, 2011
10:24 pm
“i wasnt asserting that you were only asking..
given you feel what i posted was ” It’s a point of view (coming from a guy who most people know loves to hate on Al.)”
u see how that works..”
Yes, I see how that works, but the difference is that you post all the time, so I have seen enough to make an assertion, where I hardly ever post, so you really don’t know much about how I feel about any specific player or even the team. I think the only thing I have made very clear is that I don’t like L.D.
Jerome
April 11th, 2011
10:29 pm
“Jordan’s below 50% shooting is starting to look pretty good compared with what we’re gettng in exchange.”
This is true. Why are some people complaining so much about Jordan Crawford’s inefficient shooting? It’s not like either Joe or Jamal are efficient scorers, either. Plus, Jordan is a rookie. He’s still just learning. Joe and Jamal are seasoned vets at this point. They’ve already developed their games.
The Rock
April 11th, 2011
10:29 pm
The Celtics loss to Washington by 1 point, without even playing their top 4 players the entire game, in the 2nd game of a back to back…the same Wizards that beat the Hawks by 20+.
It just doesn’t look well for the Hawks going into the playoffs. I’m listneing to the radio post game, and they’re talking about the Hawks know they can beat the Magic on the road!!!
The Heat played last night, and the Hawks were rested.
What…they 0 – 5 in the last 5 games, with 3 of those being on the road. haven’t won a game in
Rusty
April 11th, 2011
10:33 pm
An NBA ref,a mass murderer or ld who would you run over. I guess we all know the answer to that.
Rusty
April 11th, 2011
10:37 pm
JJ trying to stop a fast break is comical, he never makes contact with the fast breaker,always turns his back to them.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 11th, 2011
10:39 pm
“Joe can make 1 mistakes 100 times over, and people will point it out every time, but if someone new or someone who people like, like Teague, makes the same mistake, people won’t even mind. ”
Why shouldn’t the centerpiece of the team, a 10 year veteran, be held to a different standard than a second year bench player?
Rusty
April 11th, 2011
10:42 pm
Nortcyde if jj could put numbers up like lebron or wade, he could take all the shots he wants,we can’t win games with him shooting 8 for 23 with no foul shots.
Rusty
April 11th, 2011
10:48 pm
Nortcyde I rather give more shots to js than jj.
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
10:51 pm
“You mention that Al’s play in the Washington game didn’t motivate the team at all, and it seems like you are suggesting that when he plays well and with emotion, it doesn’t motivate the team..”
wrong.
ag
April 11th, 2011
10:52 pm
new blog up
bigdave
April 11th, 2011
11:02 pm
“Yes, I see how that works, but the difference is that you post all the time, so I have seen enough to make an assertion, where I hardly ever post, so you really don’t know much about how I feel about any specific player or even the team. ”
honestly i dont keep up w/ bloggers post counts.. but when you did blog, tonight, you’ve come to the defense (we’ll call it) of Horford. when i wasnt even taking a “shot” @ him. so clearly my assertion, is just as good as yours; but we good.
speaking in general.. its amazing how every Hawk on roster can be examined w/ a critical eye.. but as soon as Horford is put under microscope panties is in cracks..
Hawks Fan In New Oreans
April 11th, 2011
11:10 pm
While it was gutsy performance by the 2nd unit – its a downer to see Hinrich stink it up and Jordan Crawford playing so clutch for the Wizards. Teague should have been starting from the start and dare I say Woodson got it right last postseason saying he would turn over the reins to Teague. Lame Duck not starting the young lad is just him being contrary and stubborn but it was to the detriment of the team.
I agree with superior that made is turning into a downgrade – maybe Hinrich calf is still bothering him – more reason for him to come off the bench.
Lame Duck has got to go.
wally M.
April 15th, 2011
2:49 pm
My! My! My! When are those mgt DA going to get it. They keep putting GM’s to fix this team and all they do is screw up. Firstly, firing coach Woodson after he took this sorry franchise fro 13 wins several 50 game wins was a dumb ass blunter. He did the best he could with some of those sorry wannabe players they gave him. I like to c just what those mgt types would have done with the players you gave him. You reap what you sow. You’ll planted the wrong crop, time and time again. After 30 years, I gave up my season tickets for the Hawks, Falcons and Braves. I was a sucker for punishment, you’all won, I quit. You’all need to pay me for all those wasted man hours I spent following these sorry ass wannabe sports franchises.My fellow Atlantans, I will continue to pray for your sorry teams, and hope will give you the strength to keep on pushing:-) LOL.