Atlanta Hawks: Heat 98, Hawks 90

  • A lineup of Teague, Jamal, Damien, Josh Powell and Zaza played the entire fourth quarter and nearly beat a Heat crew that included LeBron for 12 minutes, D-Wade for 10 and Bosh for 6.
  • That’s an aberration but it also was the kind of spirited play that’s been missing since the Hawks beat Boston. The Hawks had been searching for something good in these meaningless games and finally got it.
  • Still, is the play of the bench in this game going to mean more for Atlanta’s series vs. Orlando than the play of the starters over the last three games? The guys that play the most minutes got drilled by the Heat two nights after they couldn’t put down Washington’s D-Leaguers.
  • At least nobody got hurt. “The main thing is to be healthy because that’s been our Achilles’ heel the last two years,” Smoove said.
  • Marvin played 19 (productive and efficient minutes) and Josh logged 24 (pretty good, especially on the offensive boards, but for a couple untimely turnovers) minutes.
  • Josh said the knee came out OK. “It feels all right,” he said. “It might be a little sore tomorrow. There was a little bumping and it was physical. I will ice it and take my time with it. For the most part I felt comfortable. I had to get my timing down in that first half but when I finally got it in the second half it felt good.”
  • L.D. said he never considered sending his starters back in and can’t say I blame him. The bench guys were simply better tonight.
  • The fourth-quarter crew was 8 of 14 in the paint. The Hawks were 13 of 25 from that range in the other three quarters.
  • Sometimes it’s better to be good than deep. The Heat’s All-Star trio outscored the Hawks 49-46 in the first half and tallied 70 for the game. That nullified Atlanta’s a 44-14 advantage in bench scoring.
  • Bibby came in clearly motivated and outplayed Hinrich. It’s one thing for Hinrich to struggle to stay with Lowry and Parker, something else to let Bibby get to the rim more times in one game than he did in the previous 17 with the Heat.
  • That’s not an exaggeration.
  • Hinrich was no better offensively, either. By my recollection, all but one of his six missed shots were clean looks. He just doesn’t look comfortable out there and his body language was bad tonight.
  • L.D. mentioned the other day that he would have liked to give Hinrich a break and he sure looks like he’s aged a lot in like three weeks. If that’s the case, then it’s just another reason for Teague to get more burn (and, yes, it’s a problem that the Hawks are still trying to figure things like this out in Game 81).
  • I thought the Hawks moved the ball well in the second quarter (8 for 16 field goals, 5 assists) but the Heat turned up the D and didn’t allow anything easy. At the same time the Heat made 4 of their 5 long 2-point jumpers and scored nine points off five Hawks turnovers.
  • The Heat were just 1 for 4 on long jumpers in the third quarter and 0 for 5. They scored 17 points in the third and 19 in the fourth. “Their reserves came in with a lot of energy and they went to the zone and that confused us at first,” LeBron said.
  • Powell was a team-high plus-5 in 23 minutes and scored on a tip dunk and another dunk on a pass from Zaza to pull the Hawks within 86-85. He also set up a Damien basket with an offensive rebound.
  • “I thought J.P. came in and gave us some muscle down low, some energy down low,” Drew said. “I thought he played with a physicality.”
  • But before that good sequence Powell wiped out a Teague layup with a goaltend. Down the stretch he missed a 20-footer, had his shot blocked by D-Wade, fouled James Jones for a 4-point play on a late closeout in the zone defense and was called for charging with the Hawks down 96-90.
  • The Heat’s stars got some suspect calls but the Hawks can’t complain too much when they got Miami’s bigs in foul trouble, earned 21 free-throw attempts and made just 12. Josh, Al and Zaza were 4 of 11 combined.
  • Zaza ticked off yet another opponent. This time it was Big Z, whom he considers a good friend. “I am definitely going to call him,” Zaza said. “Or maybe text him, because he might not answer.”
  • It didn’t appear that Zaza did anything dirty on the play that preceded Big Z chucking the ball at him but Big Z said Zaza hit him the face on an earlier possession. “That was a lot of contact between that particular player and our guys all night but that’s the way it goes sometimes,” Erik Spoelstra said.
  • The flip side of the Hawks competing better with their bench guys is that the Heat had to go all out to win against that group. Is this really a team that can take the Celtics in a series?
  • Joel Anthony surely must be tired of getting dunked on by Smoove.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

281 comments Add your comment

ant banks

April 11th, 2011
10:48 pm

ant banks

April 11th, 2011
10:49 pm

hot damn!!! that’s twice this year and its only April!!!! what’s the record for 1st posts by any blogger in a year? lol

ag

April 11th, 2011
10:50 pm

Jesse

April 11th, 2011
10:51 pm

Do you guys care about the Hawks or being first on the post?

ag

April 11th, 2011
10:53 pm

Being FIRST!

ag

April 11th, 2011
10:54 pm

Is there anyway that LD continues to play a struggling KH. On a 3 on 1 fast break, with Al trailing, he challenges LJ……really KH?

Najeh Davenpoop

April 11th, 2011
10:55 pm

Start Teague

ant banks

April 11th, 2011
10:58 pm

is anyone as UNEXCITED as i am about the start of the wnba season? i bet a few of those teams can beat the hawks. lol

Section 303

April 11th, 2011
10:59 pm

Just got back from the game. Not sure how I feel about it…

It’s great the bench guys stepped up and put up such a fight. I’m almost ready to buy a Jeff Teague jersey. How I missed the boat on him the past year and 1/2 + makes me question my eye for talent. I start Teague over Hinrich. Hinrich is terrible these days, by the way. Too late to send him back for Jordan Crawford?

As good as the bench played, the starters played equally awful. They got down big and the bench guys bailed them out. Really, how many times can we count on that? I still give the Hawks nearly zero shot of beating Orlando in this series.

My biggest beef tonight is with Larry Drew. Can we possibly get a more overmatched coach? Heat get ever call down the stretch. LeBron goes to the line every other time down the floor. Meanwhile, on the other end, Crawford gets knocked down 3 times on jumpers…no call. Powell gets mugged going to the basket…no call. Zaza gets pushed down by Wade, causing the ball to get thrown away…no call. What’s Larry Drew do? Nothing. Just sits and takes it. There are times when you have to rip refs. Tonight would have been a good time to do that. Drew decides to do nothing. And, the Hawks continued to get trashed by the officials.

Josh Smith jumpers actually kept us in the game. However, I need to point out he gave everything back with 3 stupid passes that lead to Heat points everytime.

ag

April 11th, 2011
10:59 pm

Last 5 games, Teague outscored KH 4 of 5. Last 10 games, KH 31.7 minutes 8.4ppg. Teague 15.6 min 8.4. Why is KH starting?

bigdave

April 11th, 2011
11:02 pm

“Yes, I see how that works, but the difference is that you post all the time, so I have seen enough to make an assertion, where I hardly ever post, so you really don’t know much about how I feel about any specific player or even the team. ”

honestly i dont keep up w/ bloggers post counts.. but when you did blog, tonight, you’ve come to the defense (we’ll call it) of Horford. when i wasnt even taking a “shot” @ him. so clearly my assertion, is just as good as yours; but we good.

speaking in general.. its amazing how every Hawk on roster can be examined w/ a critical eye.. but as soon as Horford is put under microscope panties is in cracks..

Najeh Davenpoop

April 11th, 2011
11:05 pm

Apparently Magnum Rolle was named after Magnum P.I. and not the thing that broke nine months before he was born.

O'Brien

April 11th, 2011
11:08 pm

From the previous blog;

Najeh,

Exactly. You would think a guy who has been in the league 10 years, and who just signed for 6 years, $124 mil (after making $70 mil over 5 years) would be held to the highest standard on the team.

Props to Jordan Crawford for making the big shot to send the Wiz-Celtics game to OT.

Rusty

April 11th, 2011
11:08 pm

Hell ld isn’t going to spend his own money to pay a fine. Get rid of his stupid ass.

ant banks

April 11th, 2011
11:10 pm

‘POOP,

are you sure he is not named after the malt liquor MAGNUM? lol

James on Pharr Rd

April 11th, 2011
11:11 pm

For my Jeff Teague fanatics, which player does JT remind you of? Because, I personally need guidance on why JT should start for any team in the league let alone this annoying Hawks’ excuse. Please include any number of strengths he has shown when he plays in comparison to other players of his size.( Need not include Brandon Jennings please)

Rusty

April 11th, 2011
11:15 pm

At the end of the game ld actually stood up & actually pretended he was coaching ,but then he got tired & sat down.

ant banks

April 11th, 2011
11:15 pm

PHARR RD.,

they jus’ gave you stats comparin’ teague wit’ hindlick (heinrich). teague is betta than kh. look at the previous blog, page 10. i think…

O'Brien

April 11th, 2011
11:15 pm

ag,

We can even go back to the last 10 games;

Kirk: 8 pts, 4 assists, 3 rebs in 32 mpg
Jeff: 8 pts, 2 assists, 1 reb in 16 mpg.

I’m a fan of Kirk, and think he is an upgrade over Bibby (although Bibby outplayed him tonight). But the last few games, I have not been impressed by Kirk at all.

And with the way Teague has improved since the trade, I think if he was given consistent minutes all season, he would have been ready to start, and we might have been able to move Bibby to the bench, and keep our 2 first round picks.

Rusty

April 11th, 2011
11:17 pm

James he is a hell of a lot better than mb,kh or jc2 at pg

superiorblogman

April 11th, 2011
11:18 pm

If you need guidance you should not look to others to provide it. Look at highlights or old games to see who Teague reminds you of. Too many of you guys come around with dumb meaningless conversation. Who does Kirk remind you of? He reminds of a worse version of Bibby at this point, I don’t need any help.

O'Brien

April 11th, 2011
11:18 pm

James,

I dont think you should focus on Teague’s individual strengths to determine if he should start or not. Instead, look at how the starting unit performed as a team when Jeff started, and the flexibility it allowed to bring Kirk off the bench to play with Jamal (which might be better combination than Jeff and Jamal).

Rusty

April 11th, 2011
11:19 pm

Meant jc1 at pg

Najeh Davenpoop

April 11th, 2011
11:19 pm

“which player does JT remind you of? ”

I think when it’s all said and done he has the skill set to be a more athletic Tony Parker. He’s not nearly that good yet, obviously, but he’s easily good enough to be playing and in my opinion should be starting.

ant banks

April 11th, 2011
11:20 pm

wow, JC2 beat the celtics??!!!

Rusty

April 11th, 2011
11:30 pm

Why the hell don’t ld play Etan over powell who gives you nothing?

Slimj4

April 11th, 2011
11:31 pm

“Hinrich…0-6 FGA, 1 pt, 3 assists, 2 turnovers, 0 rebs, in 17 minutes of PT”

Great trade… Huh Sund????? Run dont Walk!!!!

JC2=future star???Beat the men in Green!!!!!

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superiorblogman

April 11th, 2011
11:32 pm

Tony Parker has never played less than 29 minutes per game and that was his rookie season when he only averaged 9 pts 4 assists. I think Teague would give you greater production with those minutes. Mike Conley never averaged less than 26 minutes and he gave you 9 pts and 4 assists. I think Teague would give you a little more with those 26 minutes than Conley. Monta Ellis rookie year he only average 18 minutes a game and gave you 7 pts and 1.6 assists. Jason Terry averaged 8 pts 4 assists as a rookie in 23 minutes. Honestly, Teague’s numbers for 13 minutes a game are just as impressive as anyone I just noted. No one knows what Teague could be with real minutes but that goes for a lot of guys that have proven themselves. He has earned that chance if you ask me. No sensible being should be running around questioning him if you look at history, history says question the coaches because guards usually don’t do much with 13 minutes per night which is the most they have ever been able to spare for Teague.

Rusty

April 11th, 2011
11:32 pm

Ld being coach makes this team seem like a soap opera ,worse coach maybe in NBA history.

doc

April 11th, 2011
11:32 pm

303, how about the body slam on hinrich by queenie. nothing but body to the guy sending him into the first row where he stayed awhile getting himself together. it wasnt even close but queen didnt pay a hand on him only his whole torso. or when jamal was held going up towards the basket? i hate stern rules.

like what teague has done as he has had to get time on the court. i still hold ld and woody for that matter for not finding more time for him and finding out if he can play. no he didnt ever impress because the collar around his neck was so tight. if drew had used him more it might have made it unnecessary to send bibby packing and use bibby for 20 minutes a night and teague 15 to 20 and fill in with crawford. i like hinrich but i dont like what we gave up but if not hinrich the askg would have thrown out the first rounder for bidders anyway like they did this past year.

Slimj4

April 11th, 2011
11:33 pm

That Heimlich trade is looking worse by the day……………….

Slimjr

April 11th, 2011
11:35 pm

gave up too much Sund…………………

Rev in Tampa

April 11th, 2011
11:37 pm

Teague Party!

Slimjr

April 11th, 2011
11:38 pm

Josh will never get it………………….

Slimjr

April 11th, 2011
11:42 pm

Hey LD, got sum strategy for you.Bring the starters off the bench for the Orlando series..You may advance to the next round????? He He….

Rusty

April 11th, 2011
11:47 pm

Listening to ld post game is a joke ,crap comes out of his mouth.

gcs

April 11th, 2011
11:53 pm

5 more games and the season is over.

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cp

April 12th, 2011
12:12 am

I like how the bench guys performed tonight. That four point play however killed all the momentum they had. Josh Powell had a bunch of bad plays in that fourth quarter but it was still to see the other guys play well. We will need them in the playoffs…….Hinrich at this point is a reserve. I think he has had maybe 3 good games since he has been here. He couldn’t keep Bibby in front of him tonight. I saw Bibby attack the rim more tonight than I think he did as a Hawk. Put Kirk on the bench but knowing LD he will continue to start Hinrich although Teague has been the better player.

ag

April 12th, 2011
12:24 am

It is very sad that LD really cost this team. Not playing JCII and JT has really hurt the franchise. Suck up your pride LD and start Jeff Teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaggggggggggge

P. Bull Terrier

April 12th, 2011
12:29 am

I loved the fact that Drew didn’t put the starters back in the game after the bench made a game of it in the 4th quarter. The subs were playing real basketball and going toe to toe with LeBron and co. It was a lot more fun to watch Teague, Zaza, Powell, Crawford, and Wilkins play defense, move the ball to the open man, and take quality shots, than it is to watch Joe dribble and Josh miss 3 pointers. The subs should get the start next game.

darrell starks

April 12th, 2011
12:33 am

Great game tonight by the bench, this why you have 2 develop your bench to have a complete team.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

April 12th, 2011
12:34 am

The bench player we have can be good, it’s just LD have 2 coach them up and play them.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!

ag

April 12th, 2011
12:36 am

The Hawks should use KH like the Magic use Reddick. With Teague starting, you don’t depend on his points (that is why the second unit played bad vs. Wiz cause JT could not hit a shot). I would also bring Marvin off bench,

Booo!

April 12th, 2011
12:39 am

Smh -_-

We could’ve had Crawford x 2 at PG and SG off the bench.

Start Jeff Teague!

Free Pape Sy!

Fire LD!

darrell starks

April 12th, 2011
12:40 am

Hinrich have been horrible lately, and coaches have 2 make decision what’s better for the team, so bringing hinrich of the bench with jamal and marvin give the hawks balance and substance come playoffs, SO IF LD SEE THAT WHY NOT MAKE A CHANGE FOR THE BETTER OF THE TEAM.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grandad

April 12th, 2011
12:40 am

superiorblogman

John Stockton = 5 pts & 5 assts in 18 min per as a rook.
*[Teague clearly better 'cause Stockton's white]
Steve Nash = 3 pts & 2 assts in 10.5 min per as a rook.
*[ditto / white]
Sam Cassell = 6 pts & 3 assts in 17 min per as a rook
*[Cassell future HOF because he's black]
Derek Fisher = 4 pts & 1 assts in 11.5 per as a rook
*[5 rings and he's black]
***Then I Found Him !***
Gail Goodrich = 8 pts & 1.6 assts in 15.5 min per
*[and he's white ** & ** he's in the HOF]
I couldn’t believe it either superiorblogman !

He’s as bad as Teague and as white as Hinrich !

Okay what was your point again, ’cause I forgot ?

Booo!

April 12th, 2011
12:42 am

We need to9 get back to real motion, like our bench did. We only had ONE shooter on the floor during that 4th qtr run(Jamal). Once again guys, it’s all about balance.

darrell starks

April 12th, 2011
12:42 am

Man this team need collins bad, if can’t go come playoffs i see a sweep by magic.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

MJC

April 12th, 2011
12:44 am

I think this game proves that we just need to sit our starters for the next game and hopefully give them a little more time to heal before the playoffs start on Saturday or Sunday.

darrell starks

April 12th, 2011
12:45 am

STARTE TEAGUE, COLLINS, AND BRING MARVIN, HINRICH OF BENCH, THE HAWKS WILL WIN IN 6.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!