Atlanta Hawks: Practice report
Adding to the notebook that appears in print . . .
- Al is of the mind that if he’s going to play, he might as well play his regular role: “We need to stay sharp. Being honest, one game sitting out, I don’t think it’s a bad idea. Especially Joe; he has little nick-nacks. He is not going to say anything but I know it would be good for him to get some rest. But at the same time we need to be in rhythm so I can understand why [L.D.] maybe just wants to reduce minutes. But we are still trying to win games.”
- Twin and Smoove also suggested Joe is hurting more than he’s letting on, which obviously wouldn’t be the first time. Both mentioned the elbow could still be an issue. J.J. still frequently ices the right thumb.
- Josh on he and Joe playing with nagging injuries: “Certain people have a high threshold for pain. We’d rather be out there playing than dealing with that training table and rehab. I think that’s more of a pressure. You really do more things doing that than on the court. So you’d rather be out there helping the team and contributing. But we understand that right now we have to get healthy. Especially Joe because he’s our offensive leader.”
- Josh said he would play Monday against the Heat: “That’s a good game to come back to.”
- Twin on the ankle: I will be all right. Injuries are a part of the game. I will be OK. I have had lots of sprained ankles in my basketball career and this is another one on the list.”
- L.D. on his reaction to Twin going down: “I was very concerned. I am just glad that he got right back up. We all know that he is going to be a very important piece in the first round against Orlando, as all of my bigs will be. We hope we can keep guys as injury-free as we possibly can.”
- Drew on the Hawks being two games shy of the franchise record for road Ws: “I was not aware of that but I think our team has accomplished some things on the road. We’ve shown spots of showing how to play on the road and with some consistency. These last four games I don’t want to change anything. I want to do what’s been good to us: control tempo, take care of the basketball, and the shot selection has to be good. Normally when we do all three of those things, that’s been the big reasons we’ve had success on the road.”
- Drew on the Teague-Hinrich backcourt: “I like it. With both of those guys out there, in Jeff I have speed, I have quickness and a guy that can really get up and harass the ball. That’s one of his strengths defensively. Offensively, [it's] his ability to get in the paint. So any combination with Jeff out there with Jamal or Kirk or even Joe I think it’s good for us. From what I have seen, both Jeff and Kirk play off each other pretty well, too. So that’s something we could see down the stretch.”
- Teague on playing alongside Hinrich: “It’s a lot easier. Defensively, you know he’s going to have your help and I am going to have his back. He’s easy to play with. He passes the ball and gets everybody involved. It makes your job a lot easier when you know a guy is willing to give up the ball. He’s a good player.”
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Jae Evolution
April 7th, 2011
9:03 pm
Has anyone been hearing of Bismack Biyombo, this guy is apparently tearing up scrimmages.
He’s 6′9 with a 7′7 Wing span, from the Congo averages about 2.5 BPG he is virtually an Ibaka clone.
Scary potential. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2QFlV3Xn18
Sautee
April 7th, 2011
9:23 pm
“Teague on playing alongside Hinrich: “It’s a lot easier. Defensively, you know he’s going to have your help and I am going to have his back. He’s easy to play with. He passes the ball and gets everybody involved. It makes your job a lot easier when you know a guy is willing to give up the ball. He’s a good player.””
LOL, Teague just lost his credibility with superiorblogman.
Sautee
April 7th, 2011
9:25 pm
MC,
So any clue as to who will suit up tomorrow?
Michael Cunningham
April 7th, 2011
9:28 pm
@Sautee: “MC, So any clue as to who will suit up tomorrow?”
from what Drew said, sounds like all of the regulars will play some.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 7th, 2011
9:28 pm
“Drew on the Teague-Hinrich backcourt: “I like it. With both of those guys out there, in Jeff I have speed, I have quickness and a guy that can really get up and harass the ball. That’s one of his strengths defensively. Offensively, [it's] his ability to get in the paint. So any combination with Jeff out there with Jamal or Kirk or even Joe I think it’s good for us. From what I have seen, both Jeff and Kirk play off each other pretty well, too. So that’s something we could see down the stretch.””
Taking into account LD’s track record, I take this to mean we will never see the Teague/Kirk back court again.
Sautee
April 7th, 2011
9:31 pm
MC,
But not Josh or Twin?
Sautee
April 7th, 2011
9:38 pm
MC,
OK, saw your last tweet.
Sautee
April 7th, 2011
9:41 pm
“Taking into account LD’s track record, I take this to mean we will never see the Teague/Kirk back court again.”
LOL Najeh, unless JJ and Jamal each have two fouls early in the second quarter.
Sautee
April 7th, 2011
9:42 pm
No, I take that back. LD would probably use Marvin at the 2 instead of playing Teague.
Sautee
April 7th, 2011
9:44 pm
So maybe if JJ, Jamal, Marvin AND Damien ALL have two fouls early in the seciond quarter LD would MAYBE play Hinrich and Teague together.
Geez.
Paradise Lost
April 7th, 2011
9:47 pm
Oh, come on Najeh and Sautee, LD said “down the stretch.” Did you not understand that to mean after this season, if there is a new coach, if there is not a lockout and if JT0 is still here in 3 years? Because this season’s “stretch” is 4 regular games and…trying so hard to be optimistic here…
Paradise Lost
April 7th, 2011
9:52 pm
“So maybe if JJ, Jamal, Marvin AND Damien ALL have two fouls early in the seciond quarter LD would MAYBE play Hinrich and Teague together.”
I’m trying to imagine how precisely the stars would need to align in order to see that much passion and aggression out of any 4 Hawks players all at once.
Sautee
April 7th, 2011
9:53 pm
P-L,
Thanks for trying.
Melvin
April 7th, 2011
9:56 pm
Jae,
Bismack is not a bad looking prospect but dont you think the Hawks have enough of 6′9 guys already?
Melvin
April 7th, 2011
9:57 pm
MC,
What about Pape? Did LD mention rather he will play over the next 4 games. Have you seen him play in pratice? If so, what do you think of him?
Melvin
April 7th, 2011
10:00 pm
Rose has been all over the court against the Celtics tonight. Does that make Rondo a bad defensive player???
doc
April 7th, 2011
10:03 pm
the elbow is cause for concern. maybe his brief return to his old self yhat gollowed briefly hisop only to return to sub par arc numbers suggests inflammation returned. i have been very concerned that whatever caused the elbow thing couldcome back andbe sn on going saga. those fears may come to pass. i dont think jj just lost it. i can only hope that a summer away and true rehab gets his elbow right again.
mc you got any thoughts or insights into the possible chronicity we might see here?
Sautee
April 7th, 2011
10:03 pm
Melvin,
That, of course, depends on whom you ask. Some will never solve that paradox, as long as they think it gives them ammo.
Buddy Grizzard
April 7th, 2011
10:15 pm
“Dumping is usually a term used when a contract is horrible or a player is horrible.” – superiorblogman
Yes, Bibby is a horrible player who had a horrible contract, thanks to Rick Sund. I just got through saying Hinrich is overrated and overpaid so I don’t understand why you’re acting like I’m defending Hinrich at all, must less defending him because he’s white.
I thought the Bibby trade would be addition by subtraction because I envisioned KH coming off the bench and Teague starting. Since the trade it’s become clear that LD has a personal problem with Teague. Why else keep throwing Hinrich out there against people he can’t guard. I think we gave up too much, but Hinrich is still an upgrade over Bibby and may end up helping us if utilized correctly.
I’m more worried about this year’s first round draft pick than I am about losing ADAM MORRISON… I mean JC2.
Slimjr
April 7th, 2011
10:16 pm
Rose is special!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW………………………………….
Jerry West
April 7th, 2011
10:18 pm
“… in Jeff I have speed, I have quickness and a guy that can really get up and harass the ball. That’s one of his strengths defensively. Offensively, [it's] his ability to get in the paint. So any combination with Jeff out there with Jamal or Kirk or even Joe I think it’s good for us.”
wait, what? who said this?
Slimjr
April 7th, 2011
10:21 pm
“I wonder if Horford ever talks about his allergy with defense? He runs his mouth so much but you never hear him discussing why he gets bytched in the paint. Actually Horford, like the princeton Offense is worthless when you are trying to get to the higher levels. Horford is Mediocre and in consequence the Hawks have become mediocre.”
Interesting observation… What could you get for “ALLSTAR AL” in today’s market????????????
Slimjr
April 7th, 2011
10:24 pm
Orlando in 4 or 5…They’ll will the 1st two home games then lose game 3 maybe? Then come back and win 4 &5……..
Slimjr
April 7th, 2011
10:27 pm
^^^^^^^
win
Slimjr
April 7th, 2011
10:31 pm
“New Orleans settles for Marvin. As a result of the gravitational pull from Marvin’s ass, the tidal pattern shifts and Hurricane Katrina never hits New Orleans.”
Now that is some classic ish from Najeh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U just pissed of “it was a good pick” no doubt!!! LOL
Slimjr
April 7th, 2011
10:33 pm
DA BULLS ARE GOING TO THE FINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!wow……………………………………
The Truth
April 7th, 2011
10:42 pm
“Especially Joe; he has little nick-nacks. He is not going to say anything but I know it would be good for him to get some rest.”
“Twin and Smoove also suggested Joe is hurting more than he’s letting on, which obviously wouldn’t be the first time. Both mentioned the elbow could still be an issue. J.J. still frequently ices the right thumb.”
I’ve seen this movie before. If Joe isn’t saying anything about a nagging injury before playoff, then I don’t want to hear about any excuses due to poor performance in the playoff during postmortem by him. Warriors win championships. Warriors lose championships. Any players that would make excuses after a playoff run; let’s call them punks because that’s what losers do.
I’m wishing Joe and the Hawks the best in the playoff but warning:
Please make not excuses if things don’t go your way. Take your azz whipping like a man!! Hawksville may respect you better that way than the alternative.
The Truth
April 7th, 2011
10:46 pm
*Please make no excuses*
Booo!
April 7th, 2011
11:08 pm
” He runs his mouth so much but you never hear him discussing why he gets bytched in the paint.”
LOL!
It’s certainly not true, but it made me laugh
Seriously though, we Need to run our post offense through Smoove, not Al beleive it or not. AL is better from the peremeter than he is from the paint all things being equal. He’s very mechanical, only learns one new post move a year, and doesn’t recognize open men as often as smoove (who is also less predictable and has a wider array of movees down there). Al is still awesome and gets better every day though. BUT he has been playing soft the past few games…If only we could nail Smooves but to the paint and keep him there.
Booo!
April 7th, 2011
11:10 pm
*Moves
*Butt
Booo!
April 7th, 2011
11:14 pm
DO we play the WIZ again this season? I hope not. JC2 is going to go for a career high 50 points and make Joe and Jamal look like fools. If it does happen, the next day i’ll be out in front of ASG HQ with my pitchfork and Torch like the rest of you ready to make some heads roll.
Free The Teague!
and Pape Sy!
Bring back Flip Murray!
Slimjr
April 7th, 2011
11:25 pm
Yes the Hawks play in DC on Saturday night at 7pm..I hope JCII goes for at least 35…He’s going to be psyched up for his former team…
Booo!
April 7th, 2011
11:49 pm
Teen Said He Stole TVs To Pay For Prom:
http://www.wftv.com/news/27462915/detail.html?cxntlid=cmg_cntnt_rss
Riiight
Geemack
April 7th, 2011
11:49 pm
Teague is a good defender, and the Hawks are a average defensive team. So why all the DNP CD on Teague this season?
The Truth
April 7th, 2011
11:51 pm
“I’m more worried about this year’s first round draft pick than I am about losing ADAM MORRISON… I mean JC2.”
Is the glass half empty or half full? Is JC2 the next Adam Morrison or Dwyane Wade? You be the judge:
Adam John Morrison
Draft: Charlotte Bobcats, 1st round (3rd pick, 3rd overall), 2006 NBA Draft
Rookie Season
FG%=.376 FT%=.710 TRB=2.9 ASST=2.1 STL=.4 TOV=1.7 PPG=11.8
Dwyane Tyrone Wade
Draft: Miami Heat, 1st round (5th pick, 5th overall), 2003 NBA Draft
FG%=.465 FT%=.747 TRB=4.0 ASST=4.5 STL=1.4 TOV=3.2 PPG=16.2
Jordan Lee Crawford
Draft: New Jersey Nets, 1st round (27th pick, 27th overall), 2010 NBA Draft
Wizards (stats)
FG%=.379 FT%=.880 TRB=3.1 ASST=3.6 STL=1.5 TOV=2.5 PPG=17.1
The verdict: Based on these stats, JC2 beats Adam Morrison in every category. In fact JC2 beats D Wade in FT%, STL, TOV and PPG (4 out of the 7 categories).
Based on these numbers, I would say JC2 will be closer to D Wade than Adam Morrison.
It is what it is
The Truth
April 7th, 2011
11:55 pm
Correction:
Jordan Lee Crawford FG% even better @ .397
Booo!
April 7th, 2011
11:59 pm
Man i’m going to feel even worse when the rest of the league realizes what a STUPID decision we made giving JC2 up. We could have had the JT-JC2 backcourt for years to come Smh.
Booo!
April 8th, 2011
12:03 am
“Correction:
Jordan Lee Crawford FG% even better @ .397″
I’m not sure, but I believe that’s better than Jamal’s career FG% average (-_-)
The Truth
April 8th, 2011
12:17 am
Now let’s compare JC2 rookie season to Joe Johnson rookie season
Joe Marcus Johnson
Draft: Boston Celtics, 1st round (10th pick, 10th overall), 2001 NBA Draft
FG%=.430 FT%=.774 TRB=3.3 ASST=2.2 STL=.8 TOV=.9 PPG=7.5
Jordan Lee Crawford
Draft: New Jersey Nets, 1st round (27th pick, 27th overall), 2010 NBA Draft
Wizards (stats)
FG%=.397 FT%=.880 TRB=3.1 ASST=3.6 STL=1.5 TOV=2.5 PPG=17.1
JC2 beats max money Joe in FT%, ASST, STL and PPG (4 out of 7 categories) and this is from a guy that has been riding the pine for most of the season (with the Hawks)
Booo!
April 8th, 2011
12:28 am
^Lies TS Lies!
NUNNA!!!!!
April 8th, 2011
12:36 am
Whoa!!!
Did yall read this?!!
•Teague on playing alongside Hinrich: “It’s a lot easier. Defensively, you know he’s going to have your help and I am going to have his back. He’s easy to play with. He passes the ball and gets everybody involved. It makes your job a lot easier when you know a guy is willing to give up the ball. He’s a good player.”
Translation:
•Teague on playing alongside Hinrich: “It’s a lot easier.(I feel more comfortable with him)
Defensively, you know he’s going to have your help and I am going to have his back.(Teamwork i don’t get with Joe,nor Jamaal)
He’s easy to play with. ( Im comfortable with him).
He passes the ball and gets everybody involved.(He’s not afraid to throw the ball to me and he trusts me)
It makes your job a lot easier when you know a guy is willing to give up the ball.(Sh!@ Jamaal,Josh,Joe and even twin don’t do wth me when im on the floor).
He’s a good player.(Team Player and understands the game)..
Rev in Tampa
April 8th, 2011
12:46 am
Jerry West,
Just a warning not to get too excited when Drew heaps praise on Teague. We got excited once as well until we realized that it was just empty words.
Jae Evolution
April 8th, 2011
12:59 am
Is Pape Sy ever going to play…I really have not seen this guy in action and I remember he was getting good praise beginning of the year and a few D-League games.
vava74
April 8th, 2011
1:31 am
“Teague on playing alongside Hinrich: “It’s a lot easier. Defensively, you know he’s going to have your help and I am going to have his back. He’s easy to play with. He passes the ball and gets everybody involved. It makes your job a lot easier when you know a guy is willing to give up the ball. He’s a good player.”
The meaning of this paragraph is very simple. It’s is a clear indictment on Jamal since the qualities Teague attributes to Hinrich are the ones Jamal misses badly: defense and willingness to give up the ball.
NUNNA!!!!!
April 8th, 2011
1:34 am
Bam,u must be Jamaal Crawford.
Teague needs time to play and not to be yanked out after any mistake,bad shot,or lapse on defense.
U see how JC2 plays?
He knows regardless of what he does that he is not coming out unless he is in foul trouble.But other than that he will get the designated time that he will play..
I can’t believe u are that slow,,
vava74
April 8th, 2011
1:36 am
msn.foxsports’ Charley Rosen on Mullins HOF election:
“I’ll gladly admit that Chris Mullin was a terrific shooter, but pardon me for not rejoicing at his entry into the HOF. During his “glory” days with Golden State, the Warriors had a total record of 432-552, and managed only five winning seasons. Forget about Mulllin being one of the worst defenders in the history of the NBA who routinely yielded as many points as he scored.
It was Hubie Brown who once warned about overvaluing a guy who scores lots of points on a bad team. That’s because such high-volume scorers experience very few pressure shots, let alone pressure games. Moreover, opponents tend to relax on defense when they’ve already got a game well in hand.
But in today’s not-so-brave new world, the accretion of gaudy numbers overrules any other considerations, and bean counters have become the sole judges of excellence.”
The above should be used by everyone to:
a) Put Jordan Crawford’s performance in perspective. At least for the moment (hey, I think he is really talented but if he does not improve shot selection and learns to play D, he will be just an undersized SG amassing points with no conscience);
b) Put Jamal’s past performance (prior to his very good year in 09/10) in perspective since his teams had a compounded record which give or take a few percentage points hovers .400 wins at best.
tjhook
April 8th, 2011
1:42 am
I was watching some recent video of Josh Childress and I really wish the club would try to reacquire him. Maybe we can do a sign and trade involving Jamal or a traditional trade with Marvin. I’m thinking we lose Jamal anyway but at least get someone the team is used to and we could use. Besides, he isn’t looking to shoot the three; he’ll penetrate or do some off the ball movement (no homo)
vava74
April 8th, 2011
1:47 am
Melvin
April 7th, 2011
10:00 pm
Rose has been all over the court against the Celtics tonight. Does that make Rondo a bad defensive player???
Heck Melvin, of course not, “only Hinrich gets burned by Rose and is trash”.
When Rose gets what he want and how he wants against a guy like Rondo is because Rondo is playing possum for the playoffs
vava74
April 8th, 2011
1:51 am
Al is a very very good player.
He just needs a real HC to put him back on track and stop his recent sissy approach to the game.
A good HC (Thibodeau) makes soft guys man up (various guys in the CHI roster were softies).
A bad HC (LD) turned a “Boss” into a “Madam”.
Worldwide Clyde
April 8th, 2011
2:22 am
The Moment Of Truth is Now Here. If the Hawks get swept in the playoffs again expect a riot.
Worldwide Clyde
April 8th, 2011
2:23 am
#Ifthehawksgetswept
The Truth
April 8th, 2011
2:37 am
Vava76
“Put Jordan Crawford’s performance in perspective. At least for the moment (hey, I think he is really talented but if he does not improve shot selection and learns to play D, he will be just an undersized SG amassing points with no conscience”
Actually, if you compare JC2 with his rookie class of guards and pick some stats categories in the area that you mentioned, you’ll find he stacks up favorably with the best of them:
Steals – Ranked 5th
Blocks – Ranked 13th
Rebound – Ranked 7th
Eff – Ranked 4th
Pts/Reb/Asst – Ranked 3rd
These stats numbers include his time with both Hawks and Wizards. I’m sure if the numbers were isolated for just his Wizard time, he probably would have higher rankings in these categories. But sure, there is always room for improvement, but (again), for a guy that’s been riding the pine for most of the season, these numbers are impressive among his peers.
Chatter about accepting Hinrich declining numbers to be a learning curve and acclimation with his new team. JC2 numbers seems to conflict with that logic. Of course there are special circumstances such as the playoff team vs. the lotto team, the rookie HC vs. the season HC, rookie vs. season player etc. But even factoring all that in, there still should be some kind of comparable adjustment for both players that would translate in their initial performance. Hinrich has been negative, JC2 has been positive.
The Truth
April 8th, 2011
2:42 am
When I say “Hinrich has been negative” that’s relative to his time with the Wizards
James on Pharr Rd
April 8th, 2011
4:28 am
vava74
About JC 2-well said.
James on Pharr Rd
April 8th, 2011
4:32 am
MC
Who draws the offensive plays for the HAWKS?
Do we have a Defensive coach on this team?
Because “we seriously” imagine that they are somewhere in Phillips drafting a strategy for the Magic…..
Buddy Grizzard
April 8th, 2011
5:07 am
The Truth:
Just in case you missed Tom Ziller’s article, here’s the relevant passage:
“But there’s a cost for each shot Crawford takes, and the fact remains that he is wildly inefficient, even by rookie standards.
In the last five seasons, one other rookie has taken at least 10 field goal attempts a game and had a True Shooting percentage under .475: Adam Morrison, the No. 3 pick in 2006 and a player currently out of the league. Extend that back 10 seasons and you can add only Dajuan Wagner to that list.”
WILDLY INEFFICIENT.
Not inefficient.
WILDLY INEFFICIENT.
Only three rookies in the last ten years have been as WILDLY INEFFICIENT as JC2. ADAM MORRISON compares to JC2’s production. Dwade, with a vastly better FG%, does not enter into this conversation.
Buddy Grizzard
April 8th, 2011
5:27 am
http://bkref.com/tiny/9ZHIR
Rk Player FG% 3P% FT% TS% FGA
1 Adam Morrison .376 .337 .710 .450 12.1
2 Jordan Crawford .389 .264 .864 .467 11.6
Big Ray
April 8th, 2011
5:51 am
Drew on the Teague-Hinrich backcourt: “I like it. With both of those guys out there, in Jeff I have speed, I have quickness and a guy that can really get up and harass the ball. That’s one of his strengths defensively. Offensively, [it's] his ability to get in the paint. So any combination with Jeff out there with Jamal or Kirk or even Joe I think it’s good for us. From what I have seen, both Jeff and Kirk play off each other pretty well, too. So that’s something we could see down the stretch.”
Yeah, ok Larry. That’s why you play Jeff Teague so inconsistently, huh?
terrell
April 8th, 2011
6:33 am
LD talks like he loves Teague. Fool wont even play him. Clown.
The Truth
April 8th, 2011
6:37 am
Hawksville, I’m being blocked from telling “The Truth” while Buddy Grizzard is free to downgrade JC2
Buddy Grizzard = Rick Sound
The Truth
April 8th, 2011
6:40 am
Buddy Grizzard
IMO, in an attempt to pigeon hole JC2 with the likes of ADAM MORRISON , The Tom Ziller’s article is basing his whole point on one stat metric (FG%) to define his game.
Jordon set of circumstances is quite different compared to ADAM MORRISON as the MP bared that out (JC2 MP = 883 vs. Morrison MP = 2326). Also Jordon MP includes inconsistent MP with the Hawks. This guy use the term “WILDLY INEFFICIENT” after watching JC2 over a span on 2 months after he had been riding the pine for 6 months coming to the Wizards where he should have been cold as ice. If that same set of circumstance was extended to Morrison and other rookies, I’m sure that list would be much larger than those two players. With Sund (no doubt) desperate to save his name, it wouldn’t surprise me if he paid Tom Ziller to write such a bias article when clearly JC2 has impacted the Wizards in a positive way. Yes, nitpicking one stat to defining him is bias IMO.
I looked at JC2 body of work using 7 metrics (not just one) mixing some defense and offense interest. By doing this, you get a better picture hence it should be Morrison that shouldn’t be in the conversation with JC2 as the numbers bared that out.
BTW, just in case you missed my previous comment comparing JC2 to his rookie guard peers with some sample defense related metrics, again here is his ranking:
Steals – Ranked 5th
Blocks – Ranked 13th
Rebound – Ranked 7th
Eff – Ranked 4th
Pts/Reb/Asst – Ranked 3rd
Unless you are Sund himself, these numbers should show you more about JC2.
The Truth
April 8th, 2011
6:51 am
I got though
“Hawksville, I’m being blocked from telling “The Truth” while Buddy Grizzard is free to downgrade JC2
Buddy Grizzard = Rick Sound”
I can’t blame BG for this, I now know what happen. There is a word that you can’t used in a comment but I can’t say it (more like repu@#$Tion)
The Truth
April 8th, 2011
6:52 am
*I got through*
The Truth
April 8th, 2011
6:58 am
Buddy Grizzard
Rk Player FG% 3P% FT% TS% FGA
1 Adam Morrison .376 .337 .710 .450 12.1
2 Jordan Crawford .389 .264 .864 .467 11.6
Still bias since these numbers include his time with the Hawks. Try starting him as a Wizard.
tremaine
April 8th, 2011
7:26 am
Drew on the Teague-Hinrich backcourt: “I like it. With both of those guys out there, in Jeff I have speed, I have quickness and a guy that can really get up and harass the ball. That’s one of his strengths defensively. Offensively, [it's] his ability to get in the paint. So any combination with Jeff out there with Jamal or Kirk or even Joe I think it’s good for us. From what I have seen, both Jeff and Kirk play off each other pretty well, too. So that’s something we could see down the stretch.”
Clearly Larry Doo has Alzheimer’s disease! When was the last time you seen Kirk and Jeff in the backcourt together?
tremaine
April 8th, 2011
7:46 am
These guys need to sit for the next 2 or 3 games and try and get healthy. This team hasn’t been “sharp” all season so they are going to need to be healthy if they have any chance.
O'Brien
April 8th, 2011
7:48 am
The Truth,
Warriors win championships.. Not the Golden State Warriors
Steals – Ranked 5th
Blocks – Ranked 13th
Rebound – Ranked 7th
Eff – Ranked 4th
Pts/Reb/Asst – Ranked 3rd
Unless you are Sund himself, these numbers should show you more about JC2..
Was this ranking based on per 36 minutes totals? Because JC2 is playing a ton of minutes for a very bad team, and he has a green light to shoot at will. He has tons of potential, but by no means is he a lock to be a star.
O'Brien
April 8th, 2011
7:50 am
MC,
Could you ask LD about his plan (if any) for Sy?
With Josh and Collins missing the next game or 2, I fully expect Pape Sy to be active. And I see no reason why he shouldn’t get minutes.
Chances are he will struggle, but at least playing him now will give him a jump start into the offseason.
Or maybe LD is saving him until next year because he will be his secret weapon (assuming LD is back)…
Trojan
April 8th, 2011
8:17 am
When I see MC quoting LD, I quickly scan past the quote. It is not worth reading. He will reluctantly play Teague, Teague will play well and LD will act like he liked him all along. LD’s words are hallow, they mean nothing.
What about Jerry Sloan for next season? The Hawks are going to have to go in an entirely different direction. He would be a great way to start. Oh, I forgot, the ASG will hire the cheapest option available.
The Truth
April 8th, 2011
8:20 am
O’Brien
“Was this ranking based on per 36 minutes totals?”
These rankings were based on the stats performance of rookie population from NBA.com. Here is a sample of 1 result: Steals
Steals Leaders> 2010-2011> Regular Season> Guard> Rookies> Per Game> All Conferences> Raw Stats
http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Steals.jsp?league=00&season=22010&conf=OVERALL&position=5&splitType=9&splitScope=GAME&qualified=N&yearsExp=0&splitDD=All Teams
bob
April 8th, 2011
8:38 am
AL – nick-nacks are little dust collectors that sit on a shelf. they are not minor injuries.
The Truth
April 8th, 2011
8:39 am
O’Brien
The Truth,
“Warriors win championships.. Not the Golden State Warriors”
Since A warrior is a person experienced in or capable of engaging in combat or warfare, that means the Golden State Warriors wouldn’t qualify based on their current record.
But to be fair to Golden State Warriors, they have won NBA titles: 2 (1956, 1975). So technically, they have been Warriors once upon a time.
PEDEE
April 8th, 2011
8:40 am
what will the hawks do without their 6′10″ shooting guard that hangs around the perimeter on both ends of the court.
Rev in Tampa
April 8th, 2011
9:34 am
Drew is resting Pape Sy for the ECF.
doc
April 8th, 2011
9:44 am
vava only you could tie mullins’ placement into the hof with jc1. pretty sorry hof group this year as a whole.
Trojan
April 8th, 2011
9:47 am
I wonder why Pape is not in the Developmental League working on that 2 ppg average?
doc
April 8th, 2011
9:54 am
vava thib’s has sure helped boozer’s game. hard to believe he was once a second round draft pick. he crushed josh the last time out. josh wanred nothing to do with him after two encounters. it was ole the rest of the way.
Slimjr
April 8th, 2011
10:04 am
“Steals – Ranked 5th
Blocks – Ranked 13th
Rebound – Ranked 7th
Eff – Ranked 4th
Pts/Reb/Asst – Ranked 3rd
Unless you are Sund himself, these numbers should show you more about JC2.”
That JC2 give away is looking worse ans worse by the day…!
Adam Morrison=Bust
JC2= emerging Star! apples and box cars these two are…..grasshopper…
Slimjr
April 8th, 2011
10:10 am
‘what will the hawks do without their 6′10″ shooting guard that hangs around the perimeter on both ends of the court.”
Hopefully shop “ALLSTAR AL”….Test the waters see what hes worth out on the market? Your not getting to an EFC with him as a 4 or a 5…Wakeup……..
After the sweep…Start making phone calls..Make it so…….AYE Captain….
Slimjr
April 8th, 2011
10:13 am
At this time is it safe to say Boozer is a more advanced and skilled player than ALLSTAR AL?? Just asking…..B was a 2nd round pick??? Wow…..
Slimjr
April 8th, 2011
10:20 am
The Hawks are a reflection of the HC and GM..When you look at these two men and their stature, the first thing that comes to mind is they are soft and not leaders!!!!!!!!! Even before they open their mouths..
THE BEATDOWNs ARE COMIN, just hold on…………………………………..
O'Brien
April 8th, 2011
10:23 am
doc, vava,
I wish the Basketball HOF was split up into NBA HOF, College basketball HOF etc. As for Mullins, he was a very good player, but the fact that his teams didnt play well should have factored into the decision (imo).
As for Thibs, some of us wanted him to at least get an interview, but I think Chicago is where he wanted to be all along (and I dont blame him). Who wants to work for 8 cheap owners who cant even come to a decision swiftly.
He got his players to buy in, and think defense first. I dont think LD has gotten his players to buy into anything, but then again, as Woody’s assistant, he doesnt have the credibility that Thibs does (NBA champion with Boston, well known for his defense etc).
Slimjr
April 8th, 2011
10:39 am
up next tonight: Indiana by 6…..
O'Brien
April 8th, 2011
10:40 am
From ajc.com;
Former NBA referee Rashan S. Michel’s much publicized fight with Atlanta sports icon Dominique Wilkins March 30 was not his first encounter with a member of the Atlanta Hawks over an alleged debt for clothing.
Michel had a similar, though non-violent, confrontation with then-Hawks rookie Solomon Jones in 2007, according to Atlanta Police Department records.
Jones noticed Michel arguing with Jones’ father in a Philips Arena walkway after a Friday game in January 2007, according to the incident report. At the time, Jones and Michel were engaged in an ongoing dispute over a $12,000 bill for “business attire” that Michel had shipped to Jones’ locker unsolicited, Jones told police.
Michel had previously threatened civil action, the report says.
Jones told police that as he approached the argument to find out what was going on, Michel told him “that he didn’t need to handle the situation civilly, but would take care of [Solomon Jones] with ’street justice, take care of this problem out in the street!’”
Jones said he felt threatened by Michel’s words. He reported the incident to police the following Monday, not because he wanted an arrest but “he wishes the verbal threat be documented in case anything happens to him or his family.”.
I MUS WRITE
April 8th, 2011
11:03 am
JJ complaining, LD showing he is a horrible head coach, Teague glued to the bench,Al playing soft in the middle, yada yada yada……..Who the hell cares.
Derrick rose man-Fast Dont Lie this man is the truth- If he wasnt on his rookie contract I would trade any 2 players we have for him. When u make Rondo look silly on D u are really doing something. Asik Boozer Gibson Noah KThomas-The lakers better watch it their big front line isnt so big against these guys. D Rose is probably thinking …..Dam ATL paid JJ 124 million, Im better than that guy he is average at best -how much am i worth on the open market……
Can we stop with this JC2 garbage- He was never gonna play here -he barely got out of his warmups. LD really is Woody Light -When JJ and Jamal were struggling he should hv played the guy but that would hv upset sum players maybe so he stayed on the bench.
CAn we trade our roster. Everybody can get the ax.Keep teague,Smoove,Al……..
Bruce Mac
April 8th, 2011
11:36 am
Yea baby, who the hell cares? Baseball has started.
James on Pharr Rd
April 8th, 2011
11:50 am
Bruce Mac:
Did you watch the cricket world cup?
Slimjr
April 8th, 2011
11:52 am
YEA BOBBY FINALLY WENT FISHING, now hopefully they wont give away a couple of World Series again????? LOL
Slimjr
April 8th, 2011
11:53 am
Hawks should shop everybody after the sweep……………LOL
The Game Has Changed
April 8th, 2011
12:04 pm
@Slimjr-First of all Bobby was a great coach. You must have been out fishing when we were going to World Series after World Series. Yes, we may have only won one but atleast we went to 5. Thats cool with me. I wish it could have been more but just because you go doesnt automatically equals a win. And as far as the Hawks why break up a 5th seed team. Lets bulild from that.
Slimjr
April 8th, 2011
12:14 pm
Bobby should have been canned after giving away that 1999 World series that should have been a sweep against the Yanks..But he belong to the club so he got the pass…………..
The Game Has Changed
April 8th, 2011
12:14 pm
@Slimjr-Boozer has played with better point guard but he hasnt won anything either. So thats a mute point.
Slimjr
April 8th, 2011
12:18 pm
mute point????????????? The question has nothing to do with excuses about point guard play..Stay on point…Boozer greater than AL at this point, point?
Slimjr
April 8th, 2011
12:20 pm
excuse me that was 1996 not 1999..We had no shot and got swept in 99…
Rev in Tampa
April 8th, 2011
12:29 pm
I don’t understand those telling us to get over the JC2 trade. Complaining about trades is essential to being a fan. People are still complaining about the Wilkens/Manning trade.
At this point in Jordan short 2-month career nobody can know for sure who he will develop into by his third year in the league. So in the meantime I will keep enjoying the JC2 game updates.
What frustrates me about the trade is how much Sund gave up to erase his overpaying for Bibby. We gave up last year’s first round (JC2), next year’s first round pick, Evans, and Bibby for a back-up point guard on a lousy team.
What’s really sad is that Bibby’s contract was so bad (almost as bad as his perimeter defense) that it makes the Hinrich trade at least understandable.
So every time Jordan scores over twenty points or more (even if he has to take 40 shots to do it) I’m going to complain about trading JC2 because he is a symbol of the inept management and coaching.
I could understand trading JC2 if the Hawks had a defense-first identity or if the played a team-oriented offense. Instead Drew has made it clear that he values JJ’s and JC1’s iso games and he will put up with inefficient scoring from both. So why not keep Jordan as a suitable and cheaper replacement for Jamal (unless, of course, Sund plans on re-signing Jamal – which would be maddening!!!)
The Game Has Changed
April 8th, 2011
12:30 pm
Thats why my name is The Game Has Changed. A point guard is suppose to make everybody better. EVERYBODY. Can you imagine is Al played with Magic or Stockton or Kidd. Thats the point playboy. And as far as Bobby, he was the heart and soul of sports in Atlanta for 20yrs. Back off. Yea we did lose some that we should have won. The 91 world series was one of the best of all time. I was there. I attended 4 world series and I shall treasure them forever. Thats my point.
darrell starks
April 8th, 2011
12:33 pm
I really would like for LD 2 suceed but some of the decision making as a coach have been hard for me as a GM.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rufus1
April 8th, 2011
12:44 pm
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/cal_to_the_bullpen_L33AvGz7jkmW3ClIRtwkNI/1
Page 2 of this article talks about if LD will return.
darrell starks
April 8th, 2011
1:01 pm
If the hawks are going 2 have a chance in the playoff, lineup must be change.
1. Teague must starte he is a better defender than hinrich, and plus he give you more of a transition game when everything is half court in the playoffs.
2. Collins must starte, he give you that big in the paint that will bang and box out and defend the paint, defense is the key.
3. Horford should play powerforward only the hawks are a better team with a big beside him.
4. Josh at the 3 give you and a advantage in the playoff, that no other team have josh will score at will at the 3 in the post.
5. Jamal have 2 stop taking difficult shots, and penetrate more towards the basket 2 create a foul or and easy assist for his teammates.
6. Coach LD have coach big, keep the team big and roate your center, COLLINS, ZAZA, HILTON.
7. Joe must pass the ball or make a quick decision for a better play.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
terrell
April 8th, 2011
1:09 pm
(Assuming LD is back) Hell to the naw!
darrell starks
April 8th, 2011
1:09 pm
STARTER TEAGUE, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD, COLLINS
BENCH HINRICH, JAMAL, DAMIEN, MARVIN, ZAZA
RESERVE POWELL, HILTON
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!
terrell
April 8th, 2011
1:16 pm
Sorry Darrell, I see NONE of that shizz happening. Collins will start vs. Orlando, that’s a given. But after that, NADA.
terrell
April 8th, 2011
1:18 pm
Here you go Starks
Starters vs Orlando: Kirk/Joe/Josh/Al/Collins
Bench: Jamal/Zaza
terrell
April 8th, 2011
1:19 pm
Just keepin it real Starks. You can keep dreamin though. lol
doc
April 8th, 2011
1:26 pm
rufus could you cut and paste. would like to read it but cant with what you posted.
vava74
April 8th, 2011
1:28 pm
If LD does not give Teague substantial minutes to put pressure on Nelson, the series will be short.
Hinrich will not be able to chase Nelson all the time every single game.
We definitively need to give Nelson different defensive looks and keep fresh legs on him.
vava74
April 8th, 2011
1:30 pm
Vecsey:
“… The remaining half have given notice (Phil Jackson), are on unspoken notice should their teams fail to meet expectations, or are in jeopardy to be served evictions notices.
Virtually guaranteed to go are Pistons’ John Kuester, Timberwolves’ Kurt Rambis, Hawks’ Larry Drew (unless team pulls a first round upset and even then I see it), Pacers Frank Vogel (same-same), Warriors’ Keith Smart, Wizards’ Flip Saunders and Raptors’ Jay Triano, particularly if Bryan Colangelo doesn’t get a new deal…and maybe even if he does despite adhering to agreed-upon plan by those in charge to play almost exclusively young.”
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1:50 pm
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Rufus1
April 8th, 2011
1:53 pm
@Doc
Fifteen almost assuredly will be back with their current team—Gregg Popovich, George Karl, Nate McMillan, Doug Collins, Tom Thibodeau, Scott Skiles, Lionel Hollins, Avery Johnson, Scott Brooks, Paul Silas, Monty Williams, Byron Scott, Alvin Gentry, Vinny Del Negro and Ty Corbin.
The remaining half have given notice (Phil Jackson), are on unspoken notice should their teams fail to meet expectations, or are in jeopardy to be served evictions notices.
Virtually guaranteed to go are Pistons’ John Kuester, Timberwolves’ Kurt Rambis, Hawks’ Larry Drew (unless team pulls a first round upset and even then I see it), Pacers Frank Vogel (same-same), Warriors’ Keith Smart, Wizards’ Flip Saunders and Raptors’ Jay Triano, particularly if Bryan Colangelo doesn’t get a new deal…and maybe even if he does despite adhering to agreed-upon plan by those in charge to play almost exclusively young.
Paul Westphal, not that he deserves to be fired, he might have saved his Kings (Royals?) job by winning some games the last couple of weeks, Fact is, he ought to get a raise for hiving to put up every day with the antics of DeMarcus Cousins.
We’ve already mentioned D’Antoni’s uncertain circumstances. Rick Adelman, in spite of a superlative showing minus Yao Ming, is giving no indication he wants back with the Rockets. Your guess is as good as mine regarding what happens to Erik Spoelstra (Heat), Stan Van Gundy (Magic), and Rick Carlisle (Mavericks) should their respective teams distribute playoff shares in April, early May or even later in the month.
Rufus1
April 8th, 2011
1:54 pm
NYPost Article ^^^^
ag
April 8th, 2011
1:56 pm
Please, somebody name 5 IMPACT centers in the league.. Then I would comment if I would trade Al for them. The only player I would trade for and a Center is Dwight
Rufus1
April 8th, 2011
2:04 pm
If LD doesn’t come back, what was the greatest factor…
A)Teagues’ lack of development
B)JC2/ 1st rd draft pick trade
C)Josh Shooting more Jumpers and not blocking shots
D)Lack of accountability
****All of the above is excluded****
I pick “A”. If we would have developed Teague, “B” would have never happened.
mykhalc
April 8th, 2011
2:09 pm
First…new owners!!! PLEASE!!! then KA BOOM!!! CAN’T WAIT!!!
mykhalc
April 8th, 2011
2:13 pm
damn…said it again…OWNER!!! the ASG has just f’d up the concept!!!
mykhalc
April 8th, 2011
2:14 pm
@Rufus1…decision makin’ PERIOD!!! HORRIFIC!!!!
Rufus1
April 8th, 2011
2:16 pm
If Kirk was here at the start of the season instead of Bibby, would we have a better record.
Rufus1
April 8th, 2011
2:17 pm
If Kirk was here at the start of the season instead of Bibby, would we have a better record?
Rufus1
April 8th, 2011
2:18 pm
@mykhalc
That is not fair…that is all of the above…Lol
doc
April 8th, 2011
2:21 pm
thanks to both of you.
if that many are going then we better move quickly if a good coach is wanted. two things get in the way of that and one should prob be one and two, the askg. it might be the first indication of a lock out with salaries jettisoned of any and all coaches not under a hard contract. surely the askg wont keep coaches and pay them if there is no one to coach in the near future and fairly reasonable for their present apparant financial ills.
doc
April 8th, 2011
2:25 pm
rufus dont forget supposedly ld desire to bring in pape sy.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 8th, 2011
2:49 pm
LD was hired because of money. For the same reason, I don’t see him getting fired barring a complete collapse against Orlando (which of course is always possible).
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April 8th, 2011
3:05 pm
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Rufus1
April 8th, 2011
3:06 pm
Najeh
He just cost the ownership millions with the JC2 trade.
2mil more for Kirk, 3mil(They could have sold) for the 1st rd draft pick and the 2-3mil for new player they will need to sign to replace JC2. Also, the empathy created by his lack of success…That is atleast 10mil. They have to fire LD because the empathy will get worse if we don’t make it to the ECF and that will cost more than his salary in attendance.
I am a small business owner and I would fired LD because I am cheap. I would cut my loses.
Michael Cunningham
April 8th, 2011
3:08 pm
@Melvin: “What about Pape? Did LD mention rather he will play over the next 4 games. Have you seen him play in pratice? If so, what do you think of him?”
LD didn’t mention Pape but i didn’t ask. i don’t get to see much of the scrimmaging in practice and they haven’t done much of it late in the season anyway.
The Game Has Changed
April 8th, 2011
3:15 pm
@Rev in Tampa- We look at the Wilkins trade different. It wasnt a trade, it was a Dominique and Deon Sanders had to get out of Atlanta trade. They were both involved with a guy name Fred Tokars who was a crime figure in Atlanta. He was most noted for having his wife killed. The Hawks didnt want to give up Nique and the Falcons didnt want to let Sanders go. It was out of there hands. This is inside info.
Michael Cunningham
April 8th, 2011
3:16 pm
@James on Pharr: “MC Who draws the offensive plays for the HAWKS? Do we have a Defensive coach on this team?”
all of the assistants have input on plays to use but ultimately it’s L.D.’s system and his call on what gets used. the Hawks don’t have a designated “defensive coach” but when he hired Conner Drew said that’s the area he would offer input.
Worldwide Clyde
April 8th, 2011
3:40 pm
What yall know bout Fred Tokars? I think Dale Murphy got traded around that time too I’m not sure.
drmaryb (*_-)
April 8th, 2011
3:48 pm
Eddie Lawrence and Curtis Rower is all you need to know about
Fred Tokars . What a serious douche bag these three imbeciles are.
Oh! And Club Diamonds on Windy Hill Rd., Marietta, GA.
Nuff’ Said! I know all about that!
drmaryb (*_-)
April 8th, 2011
3:52 pm
Sara Tokars! The real victim and those two little baby boys.
darrell starks
April 8th, 2011
3:59 pm
terrell are you insane or what.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
April 8th, 2011
4:02 pm
If hinrich starte in the playoff, hawks loose in five, i will call las vegas if hinrich starte and become rich LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
April 8th, 2011
4:05 pm
LD bring hinrich of the bench with marvin the hawks are a better and deeper team, if hinrich marvin starte LD shorten the rotation to 7man how ludacris is that.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
ag
April 8th, 2011
4:37 pm
cosign DS
doc
April 8th, 2011
5:13 pm
tokars a very bad and sick guy
mother murdered in front of his children if i recall. i was out of atlanta then so my recall may be off reading about it.
Slimjr
April 8th, 2011
5:16 pm
That was not the question Player………………………………………………..BYE BOBBY hope you Catch a very large fish??????????????????LOL
Is Boozer a more skilled basketball player than ALLSTAR AL? I rephrased the question..Nothing to do with pg play………………This question?…THATS MY POINT…POINT???????????????????Player…….
ag
April 8th, 2011
5:48 pm
Who is starting tonight? If Teague and KH start and he plays well over the next four games I wonder what LD will do….
Najeh Davenpoop
April 8th, 2011
6:15 pm
Kirk/Joe/Marvin/Al/Zaza, according to MC’s Twitter.
Quentin
April 8th, 2011
6:17 pm
“Al is a very very good player.
He just needs a real HC to put him back on track and stop his recent sissy approach to the game.
A good HC (Thibodeau) makes soft guys man up (various guys in the CHI roster were softies).
A bad HC (LD) turned a “Boss” into a “Madam”.”
This is the best post I’ve seen on this blog (no offense to anyone else). I just think it’s so very, very true. People do not realize what a dramatic impact a coach has upon a team. A good coach can totally change the mindset, and as a result, change the habits and play of a team.
Whether people want to admit it or not, L.D. is responsible for many of the team’s biggest issues that I typically hear people complaining about.
Take a look at this post on Peachtree Hoops: http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2011/4/6/2093989/the-biggest-problem-with-the-2010-11-hawks
The author sums up a lot of L.D.’s negative impacts on the team pretty well. I almost couldn’t have said it better myself.
Tyrone
April 8th, 2011
6:21 pm
“If Teague and KH start and he plays well over the next four games I wonder what LD will do….”
This is easy to answer. If that happens, L.D. will reward Teague with DNP-CDs in the playoffs. It’s not about production with L.D., it’s about favoritism and the number of years you’ve been in the league.
terrell
April 8th, 2011
6:58 pm
Starks, I was telling you what WILL happen, not what I WANT to happen.
Like I said, it’ll be
Kirk/JJ/Josh/Al/Collins
Jamal/Zaza/Marvin
Thats basically it. Call me insane if you want to. I call it knowing LD.
Slimjr
April 8th, 2011
10:25 pm
Dont be surprised if LD is back next season after the Hawks get swept in the playoff’s?? PLAYOFFS??Yep…..
W.R.Terrell
April 9th, 2011
7:24 pm
Wonders will Jordon Crawford get 40
W.R.Terrell
April 9th, 2011
7:30 pm
Are the “SOFT’S” that bad?
W.R.Terrell
April 9th, 2011
7:33 pm
This game is getting kinda funny. I mean, c’mon they are playing BAAAAAAaaaaaaaDDDDDD.
W.R.Terrell
April 9th, 2011
7:45 pm
WOW….D League players giving us hell. This is not good
W.R.Terrell
April 9th, 2011
7:52 pm
This game will surely be the straw that broke the camels back. Even the simple-minded braintrust owners of the franchise gotta say enough is enough. The monies paid out alone shows a bad investment. A purging is coming and I surely welcome one. This is shameful I say….lol…SHAMEFUL!!!
W.R.Terrell
April 9th, 2011
8:09 pm
Boy a 15 point deficit. Even bad coaching is no excuse. These boys are just sorry. D-League players and a put together team.
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