Atlanta Hawks at Rockets: Clinching seed is the carrot

Al better not let 6′6″ Houston center Chuck Hayes punk him in this one. Houston is one of the rare teams that has a size disadvantage against the Hawks’ regular lineup. I want to see the Hawks take advantage.

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“The Rockets seemingly were done after they traded away Aaron Brooks and Shane Battier at the deadline. Instead they’ve surged and are desperately trying to make the playoffs. Henry Abbott at TrueHoop reported that the Rockets are motivated to stick it to fans, media, and the team’s front office, and I’m wondering if that might work for the Hawks, too.”

If anything that should work even better for the Hawks, seeing as how we Hawks fans don’t show them any love either. Maybe they should try to stick it to us.

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Najeh,

I dont think the Hawks know how to stick it to anybody except to each other…

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Joe so far: backs out of the post and passes it up on one possession, travels on another possession, fumbles a give and go in the paint on the 3rd possession.

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The ANIHALATION of an Idiot!
(Quelled by his own Idiocy)

4:16 pm

Here’s an interesting quote, para-phrased from Doc Rivers in regards to Al Horford:

“He was hands down my favorite All Star player this year. He came to me and said, you really only have to play me just one stint. This is all about the stars.”. I told him, “You are one of those guys.”

He is the most unassuming All-Stars in this league and is genuine.”
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That was the gist of what Doc was saying. I read a blogger’s post from last night’s game, intimating that Al Horford has always been one of his favorite players, since his days at Florida. This blogger continued to say, “Al would look really good in Celtic green uniform.”

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Here is what a Self – Proclaimed Idiot would say:_

Idiot watch

April 3rd, 2011
10:19 am
Only an idiot would quote a blogger who is quoting a blogger who is quoting another blogger who says he has translated this paraphrase from coach rivers and then say it is evidence…

Where do they get these people from?
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The Boston Herald

Back-to-back flack

Another poor showing on 2nd night

By Mark Murphy / Celtics Notebook
Saturday, April 2, 2011 – Updated 2 days ago
    
Horford has Green fans

Hawks center Al Horford hasn’t needed much time to become one of Rivers’ favorite players — anywhere.

“Of all the guys on the All-Star team it wasn’t even close, he was my favorite guy,” said Rivers. “He made a comment to me, ‘Coach, don’t worry about playing me, I just want to play one stint because this is about the stars,’ and I said, ‘You know, you’re one of those guys.’

“Man, he’s so unassuming, I was like, wow, but you know he’s for real.”

- An Excerpt taken from the Boston Herald Article / Beat Writer –
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I would say my paraphrase is pretty accurate for someone who was commenting from pure memory.

The best way to quell and destroy an idiot, is to use his very on words, give him extra rope and typically he will hang himself. They are known to be suicidal by nature. And where do they come from?
IDIOT parents. They should all be neutered, make the world a better place. Stick a knife in this one, he’s done!

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And sure enough, Al is getting punked by Chuck Hayes early.

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MVF!

The three biggest Floppers in the NBA were named:

Varejeo #1
_______ #2 (I forget)
Scola #3

Hawks need to watch out for Luis Scola antics.

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Lol forget Al, how are you going to get torched by someone 3 inches shorter in the post?

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The Rockets commentators are giving Smoove props for being a good-jump shooter. I think they are trying to encourage him to take more.

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Kevin Martin drives it hard to the hole and gets layups or trips to the line. Joe sizes his man up and jacks up jumpers.

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Teague Party!

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Good decision by Josh to drive and not take the jumper. Resulted in 2 FT.

Oh Oh. Is that Jeff teague, or do my eyes decieve me?

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ZaZa took another one out….

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TEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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some of these guys wouldnt have made it in the 90’s.

and i though Lowry was tough.

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Josh has had a world of trouble stopping the rockets’ players in the post so far this season. In an earlier game, he got torched by Scola for 20 in the first half before L.D. put Horford on Scola. Now, he’s getting torched by Chuck Hayes. Josh is a great help defender and weak-side shot blocker, but his post defense is a bit iffy.

Aside from that, we have tons of problems on the offensive end, as usual. It looks like L.D. is hell-bent on force-feeding Joe the ball. Apparently, Drew still does not realize that you’re not going to get much out of a dead horse, no matter how much you beat the dead horse. Unfortunately, L.D. is not knowledgeable or experienced enough to realize that, so we will likely see more and more poor offense run through our “shotmakers”, or “bricklayers”, whatever you propose to call them.

Unless we start utilizing our big men more on the offensive end, I don’t expect us to have much success in this game, unless of course, we start hitting jump shots at an unbelievably high rate, and Houston can’t buy a basket, but that’s highly unlikely.

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Smoove draws the offensive foul from Scola that time. I don’t think Scola is a great matchup for Smoove though. Scola has the strength advantage over Smoove, and if he gets low post position like that going forward he’s going to convert more often than not.

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There you go Joe. Be decisive, get to your spot, and shoot the uncontested shot in rhythm.

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there u go Josh

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where was the interior defense by the hawks. Nobody in the paint defensively when chuck smith scored.

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I think good things will happen when JJ makes his move early…

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making others better..

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Teague causing the turnover

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jamal looks cold early. he’s taking some tough shots

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Kevin Martin is skinny as hell and still manages to go inside and finish strong on a regular basis.

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Teague floater!

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Yeah Teague…

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Teague with the floater then jumper

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kevin martin leads the league in free throws made

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Kevin Martin draws fouls so easy, it’s almost as if refs are expecting him to get fouled.

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Al knocking em down..

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I’d like to see the Hawks attack Martin on the other end. If Marvin is going to be matched up on him, let him post Martin up.

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good move taking Marvin off of Martin

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FREE TEAGUE

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Jeffrey.

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Jamal gets burned by Courtney Lee on the screen for the and 1. Zaza pays the price with the foul.

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Way to get it back Jamal.

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Good minutes for both Teague and Zaza. Hopefully they get some more run as the game goes along.

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thats your game Marvin..

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Teague playing well and LD takes him out smh

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Nice look Jamal. Keep looking for those big fellas inside.

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jamal started off cold but has it going right now

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Big Al can drive to the basket on some of his open shots b/c the lane is open

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Joe heating up…

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what a pass though from Josh..
wow..

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Heatin’ up.

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That was a helluva pass. Al has got to grab that ball

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Honestly don’t think Al thought that was coming

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Seriously wtf is slim shady good for?? Can’t guard solid pgs like lowry let alone top tier ones. Drew the tard takes out teague for an aimless hinrich, WTF.

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OH my, LD put Teague back in the game for a 2nd appearence in the 1st half…

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Teague comes back in and scores

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Okay I think he’s(drew) seeing some light…..

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Teague might have got bailed out on that one…

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Poop im sorry but if Al continues to take his game perimeter, whats the difference? except maybe Andrea can create his own shot and has a good back to the basket game..

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They really have those mics on the nets in Houston turned up pretty high.

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Did I just see a Hawk point guard split a double team and dish for an easy layup?

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good move and pass Teague

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Teague is the future.

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nice to see Jeff directing traffic on that Joe iso 3..

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Rockets Commentators said, “Jeff Teague is on a ROLL!”

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40 points in that quarter? Damn.

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great first half. balanced scoring, good defense, and bench production. lets hope to see more of the same for the second half

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Hinrich is 4 for his last 18, he should be picking up his game just two weeks before the playoffs. Of course since drew rallied for the trade for him, teague will only get minutes when hinrich is useless.

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lol @ shaq getting hurt again after 5 min of pt

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Someone has to work with Josh Smih on his interview skills. They are poor a best. You would think somebody around tthere would have noticed or maybe just ignorning he matter. With his income, he can afford to pay for speech training. I know I am not the only one o take note of this. If the Hawk are to continue to succed this mus be corrected..

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Dominique Wilkins can’t talk and he’s a f-cking analyst. I think Smoove can play forward just fine without being able to give good interviews.

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17 boards in 31 minutes for Reggie Evans; 12 points on 6/8 shooting for Barbosa in that TOR-ORL game. Jamal for those two was one of the many Jamal-related trades I thought would work for the Hawks at the trade deadline.

Not to take away from Jamal’s solid game tonight of course.

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There you go Joe. They can’t guard you in the post.

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terrible defense to start the third quarter

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Magic down 4 with 24 seconds left. They have given up like 8 offensive rebounds to the Raptors of all teams over the last 3 minutes of game play.

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There you go Hawks. They look so much better coming out of that timeout on both ends.

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nice of you to join the game Hinrich

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Magic on the verge of losing. Raptors up 4, at the line with 13 seconds left.

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drmaryb (*_-)

The ANIHALATION of an Idiot! Part II
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Idiot watch

April 3rd, 2011
10:19 am
Only an idiot would quote a blogger who is quoting a blogger who is quoting another blogger who says he has translated this paraphrase from coach rivers and then say it is evidence…

Where do they get these people from?
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The Noose is laid .. Now, kicking the Chair!

A Real Blogger …..

Doesn’t have to make stuff up: here is my paraphrase versus the actual quote of a Boston Fan Blogger. One showing Al Love and one showing ZaZa disdain after we whupped that tail!
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That was the gist of what Doc was saying. I read a blogger’s post from last night’s game, intimating that Al Horford has always been one of his favorite players, since his days at Florida. This blogger continued to say, “Al would look really good in Celtic green uniform.

Another blogger, took a dig at Zaza, calling him ZaZa “Gabor”. LOL! saying, he man handled them in the paint with his effective play.
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Here is the actual quotes:

Pistolpete
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​It sounded like the C’s were playing at the Garden with all of the fans in Atlanta cheering for the Green Team.

Same ol’, same ol’…..back to back has not been kind to the C’s. They score 52 in the first half, then tank the 2nd half.

Al Horford….I really like this kid. I’ve been a fan of his since his college days at Florida, and always thought that he’d look good in Green.

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Its true Zza Zza Gabor had a good game , he is tough down on the block, always plays against the Celtics. Rajon missed a coulple of layups that if good would have ended the Hawks run. The Celtics are prey to teams that are physical underneath. I thought Jermaine contributed, and will only get better . Go Celtics

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Again, I would say my paraphrase my pure memory is spot on!
Listen: Trolle, ID-Jacker, 17 people running inside the head:
I’m your lead dog – your only view is my tail-wagging azz!

No BONE for you!

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Gotta contest those drives, Smoove…

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Al got the ball in a position to go up and get fouled, and passed it out to Marvin…

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Al getting punked by 6′6″ Chuck Hayes again.

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Seems like the Hawks can either play well on offense or on defense in this game, but they haven’t done both at the same time for more than maybe three minutes.

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Scola has been ownin the paint ever since the 3rd quarter it seems like.

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Al, QUIT PASSING UP SHOTS YOU CAN MAKE JUST SO SOMEONE ELSE ON THE TEAM CAN TAKE A 3

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a bunch of and 1 dribbling by Jamal

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Chuck Hayes is dominating this game.

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“This offense is pathetic”

Actually 81 points before the 4th quarter is not too shabby. Defense needs more effort tonight.

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Iso-Jamal. Ugly.

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Terrible 3rd qtr….

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smdh Zaza and Jamal thinks he’s hot sauce

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doc,

So much for Hawks defense. Like you said, the key has been to hold opponents to under 90 points. Rockets have 86 through 3 quarters.

Bad defense by the Hawks. We gave up 33 in the second, and 32 in the third. Does that mean we give up 31 in the 4th? Hmmm…

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doc,

It’s an insult to Charmin’ to compare it to these softies.

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Teague coast to coast. Lowry has had some legitimate gripes in this game though.

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We need to pick up our aggressiveness on both sides of the floor

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Josh Smith needs to quit setting the pick and stepping out for the jumper. All he needs to do is pick and roll.

Leave the pick & pop to Horford.

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Al has been invisible in this game.

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Horford’s struggling.

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Chuck Hayes played horford 2 feet to his right, smart player.

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Rockets are simply outworking the Hawks….

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Seeing as how defensive intensity is needed, maybe playing Damien on Kevin Martin for a few possessions wouldn’t be a bad idea?

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poop is that really you?

and you said i was harsh..

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“poop is that really you?

and you said i was harsh..”

Haha, well, your words have been pretty prophetic as far as this game is concerned. Normally even when his offense isn’t there he at least crashes the boards. He has 3 boards in 32 minutes today. That is Bargnani-esque.

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atdhe.fm for live streams.

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Chuck Hayes is limited but he’s great at what he does. Sign this mofo.

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At 7:03 in the 4th quarter, Nique drops his first “Nimbers” of the game.

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I am witnessing teague finish off the 4th, oh my.

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Nique keeps saying the same spot.. when Al was short on that jumper he was a foot inside of the 3 pt line..

gotta love Nique..

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Penetration and dish with Teague. It works. Use it!

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I love how Bob and Nique criticize the other team when they take bad shots but never say anything when the Hawks do the same.

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The only thing about Teague’s game that isn’t at Kirk’s level is his jumper. Everything else about his game is as good or better than Kirk Hinrich.

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Ball runs through Smoove in the high post, and Joe gets a good look coming off the curl.

I prefer Smoove in the low post, but still, it seems like a good plan to run it through the most willing passer on the team.

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And as cp called it…

Teague out. Hinrich back in.

Will never understand it.

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As poorly as they played for most of this second half, they are still in this and have a very good chance to win. Just gotta keep getting stops.

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If Adelman is let go by the Rockets (I think his contract is up), I would be ok with him replacing LD (if LD gets let go this offseason).

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take us home Jigga!

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3 straight buckets for Joe, all coming off setups from Smoove.

For the first time this season, the Hawks’ zone defense seems to be working.

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http://www.tv9sports1.info/2011/03/c2.html

houston feed

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Anyone besides Drew.

I mean, the Hawks aren’t a terrible job from a coaches perspective, I’m assuming. Talented, young team. Obviously has potential under a good coach.

But I guess that starts with a good FO. Sigh…

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smh Hinrich

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Back to back wasted possessions. We don’t deserve to win this game.

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LD needs to go back with Teague. Hinrich is struggling. Will LD have enough guts to put Teague back in….

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Melvin

NO

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And Smoove does what he does best.

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thats how you protect the d@mn rim..

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self destruction

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My goodness, these Refs….

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yea good move going back to Hinrich smh

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selfish selfish selfish play

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That Smoove lefty hook has become pretty reliable.

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Needed that point.

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well that was lucky

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Lucky. Potential disaster turns into something good.

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Joe was just complaining a week ago about who should get the ball in these situations, we obviously know he’s not the one.

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Terrible coming out of the timeout.

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Kirk letting Lowry get in the lane and open it up for Scola.

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Don’t know why we running a play for Jamal at this point in the game… He should be the second option off of ball reversal…

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ballgame

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Wow. Coming out of a timeout, jamal takes a contested 3? I know the clock was winding down, but horrible shot…

And how many open shots has the Rockets got from the Rockets guard and their penetration?

I wonder if LD should have stuck with Teague instead of going back to Kirk…

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Sigh… the iso.

I don’t like it… but you live by the sword you die by the sword.

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STARTING POWER FORWARD

JOSH SMITH.

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Hinrich is/was clearly struggling to guard Lowry and LD continue to let him play instead of playing Teague…

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I don’t blame Jamal for that shot coming out of the timeout as much as I blame LD. Gotta get the ball inside somehow on that. Once the clock was at 6 and Jamal was at half court he had no choice.

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Now he put Teague in the game with 20 seconds left… SMH

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NOW TEAGUE?!!!??? This guy is hilarous.(LD)

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Good drive by Joe, but why the hell did it take so long for them to foul Martin?

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I’ll never understand this organization…

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Good old Hawks…wins over Orlando & Boston, then a loss to Houston. I’d call myself for overreacting if this type of inconsistency wasn’t a sickening pattern.

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looks like the piss-poor scoring in the 3Q cost us … can’t see the game, but I would guess it was iso-heavy or jumper-palooza that gave teh 14 point swing in the quarter (up 9 at half, down 5 by end of 3Q).

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I’m guessing no timeouts to advance the ball.

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lol @ Poop..

he dirty aint he.. lol

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I wish drew owes a former ref money so he can get the ass whopped

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Pink Slip,

Your point is valid. His IQ isn’t where it should be. Not because he’s *dumb*, but because he’s *young*.

If coach would play the kid from day one, he’d be a lot smarter and wiser out there. Vets only become vets with time on the court. Everybody makes dumb mistakes, younger guys tend to make them more. Not because they’re dumb, but because they lack experience.

That last play right there exemplifies that. He’s not dumb, he’s young.

And big whoop, we lost a regular season game. We’re already locked into the 5-seed as it is. Who f’n cares?

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Teague’s 3 pointer > Jamal Crawford’s 3 at the end of the clock

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Drew obviously blew all the timeouts, what an amateurish coach.

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Can’t dare blame Teague for this.

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This was a terrible game for just about the entire 48 minutes. We put up points, but I really didn’t feel like we played well. Al had an awful night, Kirk had an awful night, Joe has pretty good tonight, Josh was solid, and no one else really mattered in this one for the Hawks. The execution looked bad, the team defense was horrid, and I just didn’t like the way we played at all. Very disappointing loss.

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Luis Scola has half the athleticism of Al but somehow he is able to score inside so much better.

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If Hinrich had of fouled out early in the 4th where LD had to stay with Teague we would have won. Teague was doing the same thing Lowry was breaking down the defense. I am not too mad we lost because Teague took a step forward playing half of the fourth.

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coaching is going to hurt this team in the playoffs. LD makes some baffling moves. And the game shouldnt have come down to the Teague shot anyway. They turned the ball over on like four straight possessions and the bad shot by Jamal did this team in

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“I am not too mad we lost because Teague took a step forward playing half of the fourth”

We can only hope. I thought Teague took a step forward when he dominated the Blazers, but that didn’t quite work as expected.

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11.4 seconds and Teague mishandles the ball and chucks a desperation 3! That miss-dribble was as good as a T.O.

Like The Stinger said, the Tempo was too fast, like I said in the 3rd.
Al Horford has really disappointed this season with his pretty jumper.
His big, stank, skank AZZ should live in the paint for the tough physical banging, And-1’s, stick backs and offensive rebounds!

I’ve been saying those exact words since game 13 this year!
I’m done repeating myself! Done! Josh had a great game!

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Pink Slip,i see you never played the game ever in your life before unless it was a video game.

1st of all,Josh can’t say “ish”with all the dumb shots he has taken.

2nd,There was no apparent set play for them to run on a full court play.
Rewinding and looking back over it,Jamaal was on the left of Teague but behind him when Jeff looked over,Jamaals man jumped in the passing lane.
If he passed it,then it was sure to be a turn over and yo butt would be on here talking about how he should have shot the ball.
3rd,If he would have shot it instead of faking it and going under tha shot would have been blocked.

In conclusion,A play should have been drawn up to bring the ball up and its simple as that.Teague is faster than anyone and should have brought it up but you had both Jamaal and Josh standing next to each other instead of someone on the far left wing,then you had Joe and Horford near Teague and they were nowhere near getting a good shot either.

The appropriate shot was taken.

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lol!

co-sing DrMaryB

meanwhile…
everyone’s favorite GOON Reggie “EVERYBODY ON THE GROUND” EVANS had 17 rebs. against Dwight and dem..

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we probably would have lost every game of the rest of the season bibby

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@Hawks fan in NOLA

Are Derrick Rose and Rajon Rondo not young, quick PGs?

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I wouldn’t hesitate giving the hayes the full mle, he would be an animal backing up horford.

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“Luis Scola has half the athleticism of Al but somehow he is able to score inside so much better.”
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That’s because he lives in the post area and loves the contact for the flops and flips! Al does not like contact. Should sit him and play ZaZa in the 4th we win this game. Where the hell is Damien?

Start Teague!!!

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On a brighter note, the Hawks flashed some of what I was talking about the other day when I mentioned that Joe should be aggressive and look for his offense within the flow of the offense as a whole. Joe got 19 shots and 25 points, but only maybe 3 or 4 of those shots came on isolation, and the Hawks managed to get several looks for Smoove inside and Al in the mid range area. Unfortunately they didn’t do this enough in the last 3 or 4 minutes, and this offensive execution wasn’t coupled with a good defensive effort, but the Hawks are a lot more likely to score on good defensive teams playing like this.

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Drmaryb what the heck are you babbling about on this blog ?
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O’Brien

April 3rd, 2011
9:18 pm

Score is 109-107, and Nique said both teams have played really tough defense…SMH

yeah i laughed too,

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Does our scout team scout anybody? Do they even scout their own players? Ever wonder why Al is ALWAYS open for his 15 footer?

Answer: teams scout him out there and they give him those 4 shots per game! They would rather give him 11 pts per night than to see him in the post doing damage. We will NEVER win with him playing
Dirk “No-Paint” Nowitzski!

Dumb game plans for every spot on this team!
Junk that Princeton Noffense and go back to Woody-Ball!
At least you win 53 games and get to the 2nd round!
Woody put these players in the best spot for them to win!

We needed a personnel change moreso than a coaching change!
Maybe both, but definitely a roster UPGRADE!

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“Al Horford has really disappointed this season with his pretty jumper.
His big, stank, skank AZZ should live in the paint for the tough physical banging, And-1’s, stick backs and offensive rebounds!”

It’s funny that your description of what Al should do is pretty much what he did against the Celtics in our win on Friday, but of course, you forgot about that already. Always ready to harass, but never ready to give credit when credit is due. By the way, while it wouldn’t hurt for Al to play more in the paint, it would be utter stupidity for him not to take advantage with the jumper as well. It’s about the all-around game these days, and you do what you can to help the team. Clearly, the coaching staff wants Al to help space the floor, along with Josh, that’s why they’re outside the paint so often. Whether or not that is what they want to do, we don’t know, but it is definitely what the staff is preaching, that we do know. I find it tough to criticize players for doing what they are being asked to do.At any rate, if you just want a garbage man to play center, maybe you should start lobbying to get someone like Marcus Camby or Ben Wallace before they retire.

Also, if you feel like responding to me with some insults and negativity, like you usually do when someone attempts to argue with you. Go for it. Give it your best shot, but know that I don’t give a damn what you have to say to me, personally. You can post as many shots at me as you want, but I probably won’t even read any of it, so if you disagree with what I have to say, you might just want to keep that to yourself. At any rate, do your worst, and have fun. I just had to get that off of my chest. I get a little bit fed up with people who don’t understand and haven’t played the game at anything close to the pro level trying to throw in their two cents.

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Al shooting jumpers is not the problem nearly as much as Al getting his ass kicked on the other end of the floor by Chuck Hayes and Patrick Patterson.

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@O’Brien:

Kirk fouled out; that’s why he wasn’t on the floor.

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Kirk Hinrich stinks.

Am I the only one tired of slow footed white guy at PG?

Btw, Crawford is tearing it up for Washington.

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A. New Owners: Solution anyone that is willing to go over tax to build a championship team.

B. New GM and Coach: Solution offer both positions to Doc Rivers.

C. Trade Kirk Hinrich’s contract which will be expiring at the end of next season because he is just a stopgap and a lateral move. The guy is so bad I am starting to see more of the positives of Marvin Williams.

D. Do not resign Jamal

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1.Teague is a better player when starte
2.Marvin is better player coming of the bench plus he make the bench deeper
3.Collins, Hilton, Zaza all should rotate at center
4.Horford should never play center, he need a big beside him
5.Josh starte at 3 give hawks post advantage all day long in the paint
WAKE UP LD BEFORE TO LATE

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MJC

“Horsesh-t. I don’t know after this game, but Horford was leading the league in FG% from 16-23 feet! This is just another case of the dumbasses on here overreacting to a single Hawks game instead of analyzing and comparing to the full season”
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Bullsh!t – I’ve been singing this song since Nov. 2010 and have been banging this drum all season long! I’m nothing if not consistent.
I have a huge problem with my only big playing small 15 feet away from the basket!

Last season we tied the Lakers for 13th in scoring.
Lead the league in FT% and fewest TO’s.
We were 13Th in defense.
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This season we are in the bottom of the league in all these categorioes.
You can’t see? Then have someone read the Conference Standings to you. We were 3rd, now we fight for 5th and may end up 6th!
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Get a Clue! Al has disappeared since signing that BIG contract to play as a BIG, not a SMALL! He is too big tp be shooting soft jumpers, at leats Laimbeer banged and decapitated little guards before he stepped outside for his deadly jumper. Al doesn’t even consider moving towards the paint anymore. Next year he said he’s gonna’ add the 3pt shot, is that what you want too see. Joe said, “we are ALL jump shooters. It is what it is, man.” That was not a compliment – it is a damned shame.
How would you like it if your big dck shrunk? Ask your lady?

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As soon as the season is over Hawks should fire LD and Sund. Trade Marvin and Kirk for Chris Kaman and Randy Foye. Randy Foye replaces Jamal as the new combo guard in town. Kaman is far from great in many ways, he gets hurt too much and he really isn’t a defensive stopper but he is someone that I think we can get because like Memphis, Clippers are not going to pay two C’s that much. Memphis traded Thabeet because they know that Gasol will want 10-12 million a year and Thabeet was going to make about 5. Jordan will make 5-6 a year and Kaman already makes $10 million plus. Marvin and Kirk or Kirk and Zaza will get us Kaman and Foye or Kaman and Aminu.

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“It’s funny that your description of what Al should do is pretty much what he did against the Celtics in our win on Friday, but of course, you forgot about that already.”
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Ah … I was at that game, I saw it in person! I don’t give a rat’s tail if Al scores 28 pts from 16 – 23 feet! My complaint is the STYLE of play.
A Big man playing 16 – 23 feet AWAY from the basket is just plain SOFT!

If he is out there? Who the hell is in the paint? Who is drawing a foul to put the entire team in the penalty for FT’s! How many FT’s will he get out there? Who is going to REBOUND the OFFENSIVE glass?

ZaZa won that Celtics game, NOT Al! I am not upset about ONE game, I am disgusted about ALL of them! ALL OF THEM! Look at the stats people!

Are you really satisfied with REGRESSION? Really?
Then get off MY comments and SCROLL PAST my posts! Grow a brain!
Teams circle our games and got champagne in the locker room!

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rocknblues81
April 3rd, 2011
10:08 pm

Kirk Hinrich stinks.

Am I the only one tired of slow footed white guy at PG?

Btw, Crawford is tearing it up for Washington.

yes his name was bibby but he was only half white

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MJC

“You are insinuating that Al gets the ball when he isn’t open; he isn’t great at creating his own shots.”
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Just because you’re open, doesn’t mean you have to shoot?
Ever heard of a pump fake and drive for an AND-1, or kick, or hitting a cutter, (oh wait, no player movement).

In the 4th when Al was fouled by Hayes or Patterson, he doesn’t get a foul shot because Houston was not oin the penalty! Why is that?
Because, like Joe said “we are all jump shooters, it is what it is, man.”

I don’t even have to look at the box score to tell you that your so-called big man didn’t draw any fouls and had NO FT’s! He never will shooting from 16 to 23 feet away from the paint! Are you DEAF?
How many times top I have to repeat myself? Are you autistic?
Just leave me alone! Got bother somebody else! I need a midol!

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Everyone saw the game tonight and witnessed a mess, nuff said.

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drmaryb, if you look at the stats I gave you, it is apparent that Al does get in the paint. In THIS game, Chuck Hayes did an effective job of boxing out and keeping Al out of the paint. But, if we look at the ENTIRE SEASON, evidence shows that Al has been in the paint enough to grab rebounds and has been effective enough from mid-range to warrant his shots from there. Just because you refuse to correctly look at someone else’s argument doesn’t make you right; it makes you an imbecile.

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drmaryb said “…I need a midol!”

This is definitely true.

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Josh has been Mr. dumdeedumdeedum all season. (1) He is not a point guard but likes to think he is, (2) He is not a pure shooter, let alone a shooter period, (3) His defense only comes at the spectucular otherwise he is a weak defensive player(4) He does not understand the concept of basketball(5) He’s all about himself(6)He is soft does not like contact, he avoids it(7) After 5 years playing this is the best he will ever be.

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Why is there so much of a blame game on this blog after each and every loss? People are always trying to point the finger. The Joe haters will blame Joe, the Josh haters will blame Josh, and the (few) Al haters will jump to the occasion to blame him if he has a bad game. Sometimes, people will not know who to blame so they will start to talk about how much of a disappointment Marvin has been. The excuse list goes on and on. The bottom line is that the team lost, and it’s a team game, so the blame goes to everyone, just as the victories are shared by everyone.

Regardless of who played well and who didn’t, everyone could have played better, the coach could have coached better, but ultimately, it didn’t happen, and we lost. Instead of talking about what the problem was, people (hopefully the players and coach), should be talking about how to solve it, and then actually follow through, because as it stands right now, all the team does is talk about the same problems over and over, while failing to address them on a consistent basis.

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“Of course it does Najeh. It’s always JJ’s fault. That’s why he should try to do more, so that it won’t be any question whose fault it is. You make a point to point out every turnover or supposed bad shot he takes, like the Smith haters do when he takes a jumper”

I only make it a point to point out his turnovers and/or bad shots if they result from a poor offensive possession, usually iso-Joe. He has every right to brick shots and turn the ball over as often as everyone else on the team. The point was that in addition to the 19 shots he got, he would have had at least 3 more — putting him over your 20-shot threshold — if he hadn’t blown those point blank opportunities by turning it over, and as a result insinuating that the Hawks would have won if he had more looks is pretty far off base.

Joe played well tonight. If I’m going to point fingers at players, I’m going to start with Al and Kirk. And like you admit yourself, the offense wasn’t the problem, so Joe’s shot attempts shouldn’t figure into the question of why the Hawks lost anyway.

“But at some point, this team is simply going to have to let the people who can BALL, either win or lose the game for us.”

Exactly, which is why Teague should play more.

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Who the hell is
Roy G?
MJC?

Never heard of these clowns until 5 mins. ago. Go to hell.
LOL! Keep Scrolling people!

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drmaryb, this “clown” usually only posts a couple of times a week because there is rarely an argument as stupid as yours that draws me into debate. Otherwise, when I am on the internet, I frequent places that actually know basketball.

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“Of course it may not have mattered. LOL . . yeah right. He was 7 – 11 FG at one point in that 3rd quarter. At that point, that’s when you feed and fan a person, to see if he can put up a big number. And I don’t care if he got the ball via ISO or via Smith passing him the ball. At that point, you see if he can put up a big number and possibly blow the game open.”

By my recollection, Joe went about 1/4 on isos and made the majority of his shots where he was set up by someone (usually Smoove).

I don’t have any problem with feeding him when he’s making shots, but it shouldn’t come off iso on the perimeter. If they want to isolate him, get him the ball in the post and clear out so he can go to work on the likes of Kevin Martin.

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@Gerald

Co-sign.

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” Turn down the stupid!!”
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I just did! You’re Done! I’m scrolling.

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drmaryb (*_-)

April 3rd, 2011
11:26 pm

” Turn down the stupid!!”
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I just did! You’re Done! I’m scrolling.
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Thanks. You just proved my point for me!

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Al doesn’t have the back to the basket game to be a go to option in the low post, nor is he aggressive enough to set him up in position for him to take advantage of his very good face up game. What the Hawks can do, however, is run pick and rolls with him where he gets the ball in the paint going towards the basket, allowing him to use his above average ability to finish to either score or get fouled.

It’s pretty much the same thing that works with Smoove more often than not, including in this game.

Anyway, the usage of Al on offense wasn’t as big of a problem in this game as his inability to D up or box out against Hayes.

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Watched the entire game. Comments:

1. When is Josh Smith NOT upset about something. Pouting, upset, whinny, bratty child-faced, “I’m deserving”, “I’m a victim” of …. —— the list could go on indefinititely. Get this SOB off of this team. And do it yesterday! And please don’t quote me his individual stats. I WATCHED THE GAME.

2. Horford is just plain soft! Who cannot manhandle Horford? He’s nothing but a complimentary player who needs real men surrounding him so that he can stay out on the perimeter and shoot his pretty little mid-range jumpers. Little girls (and boys) can make these!

(Maybe Al would be happier in Miami with his Sony Crockett/Rico Tubbs shave-job and his Dominican roots? Trade him for one of Miami’s “Big 3″ (not named Lebron) and everyone might be much happier. Heck, trade him for Joel Anthony, for that matter, at least we would get a real grown male on our starting front line for a change.)

3. What on earth could possibly explain the Hawks’ handling of Teague? It’s bordering on one of the most outrageous situations I’ve ever wittnessed in professional sports. My only guess at this point is that either Teague (or his daddy) must’ve boinked both LD and Woody’s ole ladies’ —along with several of the of the ole ladies of the ASG? Nothing else make any sense at this point.

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Why does anyone believe that the Atlanta braintrust makes smart moves. If Al’s name comes up, he’s probaly gone because he’s about he best thing the “SOFT’S” have to offer.

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@Get Real

Your first argument is invalid: LeBron James, Chris Paul, and Kobe Bryant complain a lot, but I’d happily have either of those SOBs on our team.

Your second point is also invalid because Horford is in the top 10 in rebounding. He must be doing something right to grab all those rebounds. See Gerald’s and northcyde’s comments earlier because they addresses this very nicely.

Your third point is accurate.

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“Al doesn’t have the back to the basket game to be a go to option in the low post, nor is he aggressive enough to set him up in position for him to take advantage of his very good face up game. What the Hawks can do, however, is run pick and rolls with him where he gets the ball in the paint going towards the basket, allowing him to use his above average ability to finish to either score or get fouled.”

Apparently, there are a lot of opposing coaches who disagree with you. When asked about Horford, most coaches cite his post-game as a strength before mentioning his jump shot, and in case you haven’t noticed, teams are willing to give Horford the jump shot over a post-up because they respect his ability in the post. That’s why he so often gets doubled in the post. I will agree that his post-game needs work, but it is still effective enough to be utilized against most opponents. Also, Al’s face-up game is more than effective enough to be used against anyone. To fully utilize Al, the team could do a lot more than just run pick-and-pops with him, they just fail to do so, and many times, it seems like Al is fine with that. It would definitely help if he were more aggressive and demanded the ball, but I don’t think the issue is that he doesn’t have the skill, but moreso that he doesn’t have the confidence or the desire to want plays run through him more often. He seems totally content with deferring sometimes, which is kind of silly, but I’m hoping he becomes more of an Alpha-dog as his career progresses.

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That should be “they address this” in my previous comment.

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@Get Real

You are going with the archaic argument that Centers shouldn’t try to move their game out of the paint. Olajuwon and Ewing were very good at bringing their games out and it allowed the paint to open up for their teammates.

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4 rebounds is about right, when you’re standing 23 feet away from the rim. A center can get 4 rebounds by accident. Sometimes, the ball just lands In your hands.

Al played inside against Boston, so I guess he just mailed it in tonight.
Perhaps he pacing himself for the play offs to rest his sore ankle or something. But, he went to The All Star Games twice as a center, happily!

But, he said, ” I’m a natural PF.” OK, then be one and play inside, your team can not win without the ball, so focus on rebounds and some And-1’s, and pts in the paint as your bread and butter.

Instead of saying next season you will add the 3 pointer, how about chucking that notion and working on some low post offense and dribbling.
You now, big guy stuff, like a:

Drop Step
Back to the Basket move
Bilateral hook shot
Base Line Jumper
Boxing Out
Pump Fake & Drive
Or even a Quick Step in the post instead of a Joe Johnson ball pounding and last minute pass to Josh @ the three 4-5X per game.

Last year, Al was hands down my favorite player. Even if he can’t do all the things on that list, he played BIG! But, this season is a wrap if this is hwo were gonna’ play in 4 weeks. So, next year, Al please don’t ONE thing on that list and what ever you do? Please don’t come back with a 3 pt shot! If you do? Shame on You! Shame on Drew! Shame on Sund!

We already got:

Joe
Josh
Jamal
Kirk
Marvin

Struggling to do that job! We don’t need 6 of yall shooting 3’s!
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This team is the most duplicitous, dis-jointed, unbalanced roster in the NBA! We got 4 SG’s and 2PF’s and one of the SG’s might be a PG if he ever got some PT, we might find out.

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Props to Skylar Diggins though, for matching Mya’s performance with a big game herself.

(( checking her age before I make a comment ))

OK . . she’s only 20, so I’ll just say that Skylar is a cutie and leave it at that.

Her mama is fine. Skylar will age well.

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@northcyde

UConn’s women lost? Don’t tell ESPN that!

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“Najeh, Al was not guarding Hayes tonight. He was guarding Scola, and Patterson (to a smaller extent). I don’t know why you keep bringing up his Hayes when talking about Al. That was not the matchup tonight that the Hawks went with Josh was matched up with Hayes. On the offensive end, Al was being defended by Hayes, but not vice versa.”

Huh? Al spent a TON of time on Hayes, especially in the first half, but even in the second. Not that Smoove did much better against Hayes, but Al was giving up boards to Hayes for a significant part of the game.

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* Al please do ONE thing on that list and what ever you do?

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Like Amare Said, “he is not that type of player.”

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Hawks outscored by 19 in the third!!! Are you kidding me???? Houston should have been blown out by 25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Playoffs in 2 weeks!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nortcyde yea jj 3 turnovers late in the game didnt hurt us & yes you were right about Joe we would lose if he doesn’t take 20 shots in the game, he only got 19 if he would have gotten one more shotbwe definitely would have won. Too bad he made those 3 turnovers he might have been able to get that last shot.

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LOL . . so ESPN is going to carry the entire UCONN press conference? Come on now. I’m a women’s basketball fan, but they’re only doing this because its UCONN. I bet when Notre Dame gets to the podium, they’ll show them for 5 minutes.

Just make sure they show Skylar talk. Oops . . she’s only 20. But still, show her talk.

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“Huh? Al spent a TON of time on Hayes, especially in the first half, but even in the second. Not that Smoove did much better against Hayes, but Al was giving up boards to Hayes for a significant part of the game.”

Al was not matched up against Hayes for the majority of this game on the defensive end (i.e. Al was not assigned to defending Hayes as a primary assignment in this game). Al was assigned to Scola, while Josh was assigned to Hayes. The only times when Al was matched up against Hayes was on switches or defensive rotations, during the brief periods where L.D. put him on him to try and slow him down (primarily, late in the second quarter), briefly while Zaza was in the game, and on a few selective occasions down the stretch of the fourth. Hayes was not Al’s primary assignment. For the most part, Al was defending Scola and Patterson. He defended Hayes for less than a quarter, total. I even double-checked the footage.

If you are talking about Hayes defending Al, then, yes, Al spent a “TON” of time with Hayes on him, but not the other way around. If you don’t believe me, take a look at the footage. Even the play-by-play, to a smaller extent will illustrate what I am talking about.

Also, as far as Hayes vs. Al tonight, Hayes didn’t score much at all when Al was on him, but Hayes definitely caused rebounding problems for everyone, including Al.

At any rate, regardless of who defended him, Hayes outplayed every big man in this game, which is disappointing for the Hawks.

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Lol@drmaryb’s effort to minimize her critics. Can’t let you ignore the pain though, doctor. Horford has gotten a double-double in 35 games this year so he is banging down low. The prevailing concern of this team IS what is the order of prioritization when it comes to offensive strategy. Is it more important to have our one on one specialists get warmed up or develop the offense with some persistent inside – out action. I believe in Plan B, but that does mean tweaking the roster (goodbye Crawford) and definitely goodbye Marvin.

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To the tune of “Give Peace a Chance” (by John Lennon).
“All we are saying, is give Teague a chance….”

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