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Magic at Atlanta Hawks: Meaning and matchups

2:56 pm March 30, 2011, by Michael Cunningham

The Hawks sure do sound confident about playing the Magic. Not that I thought they’d say they are worried or anything but a more measured tone might be expected after last spring’s beat down, the extenuating circumstances surrounding the three previous meetings this season and Atlanta’s issues since the All-Star break.

It’s that last part that had Smoove playing down what tonight’s game might mean for the likely rematch in the playoffs.

“The playoffs and regular season are completely different,” he said. “We just want to play consistently right now.”

L.D. and J.J., meanwhile, obliged media types looking for that playoffs angle.

Joe: “We’ve played them pretty well during the regular season. Obviously the playoffs are a lot different but
we know we can play this team.”

Drew: “I think it’s definitely a carryover. We want to approach this game like it has true meaning, which it does. Win, lose or draw we have to come out and establish ourselves and compete and play hard. The last thing you want to do in a game like this is not play with an aggressive instinct. The way we gave played in the month of March we don’t have any room for that. We have to come out and we have to be the aggressor from start to finish. ”

Al’s view falls somewhere in between: “I think it will be a good test for us. I don’t think that determines everything but we have to come with that [playoffs] mentality.”

This is all just talk, of course. The Hawks generally executed a sound plan against the Nets and Cavs which, while certainly better than the alternative, did little to answer questions about this team’s ability to do so when there is more resistance.

So the talk about the Magic must be backed up with action, though I’m sure my blog people welcome such talk if it increases the chances that the Hawks will be ready for this.

“I think we got embarrassed so bad in the postseason last year when we play this team we know what to expect and I think we tend to play a little harder,” J.J. said.

Game Notes

  • L.D. is using the Hinrich, J.J., Josh, Al, Twin lineup. Jameer will play for the Magic.
  • L.D. and Hawks players all seem to agree that the big lineup has made the difference vs. the Magic: “I think big Jason Collins has done an unbelievable job on them each time we have played,” Joe said, adding that he was a little unsure about the alignment at first. “I didn’t know how it would work but it has really played into our hands.”
  • Al on Atlanta’s increased confidence vs. Orlando: “It’s all about match ups. I feel the time we have played them our bigger guys like Zaza and Jason have done a good job on Dwight. He’s obviously having an MVP-type season but we have been able to play better with a bigger lineup.”
  • Josh on one benefit of the big lineup: “Defensively it helps a lot because with Dwight setting those mean picks, I can guard him fairly well. I mean, not as well as big men, but probably better than most threes when make the switch.”
  • Drew on the plan: “Obviously with Dwight, he’s a load. You have to really be refined on what you are doing against him. This team is a really good 3-point shooting team. Our game plan going in it won’t change from the first three times we played them. We have to do a good job with Dwight [and] we have to do a good job defending the 3-point line.”
  • Drew on the post-trade Magic: “They’ve gotten some rhythm. The guys they’ve gotten in the trade have certainly gotten acclimated to what they do. That was just going to be a matter of time. We knew that. Turkoglu can cause a lot of problems with his size and ability to handle the basketball and make plays. Arenas is very capable. Richardson seems to be playing at a high level. They are a tough ball club. They have got weapons all over the floor. We can’t let Dwight go crazy and at the same time we have to do a good job defending that 3-point line.”
  • Orlando media types tell me Arenas has lost much of his explosiveness in addition to struggling with his shot. So much for rejuvenation: Arenas’ player efficiency rating, offensive win shares and field-goal percentages, already at or near career lows with Washington this season, have declined even further with the Magic. Sounds like a job for Teague.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

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Rev in Tampa

March 30th, 2011
3:07 pm

First?

ant banks

March 30th, 2011
3:08 pm

dammint tampa

ant banks

March 30th, 2011
3:09 pm

congrats bruh, no hatin’ here. lol

Rev in Tampa

March 30th, 2011
3:16 pm

MC,

Thanks that last little goad for Drew to use Teague. It makes no sense from what I have obseved Teague do in games where he played with the starters to leave him to languish on the bench. It begins to seem like a personal vendetta.

Does Drew ever interact with you over things you have written or read on the blogs?

Ryan

March 30th, 2011
3:17 pm

Who is Teague? Smh

Rufus1

March 30th, 2011
3:20 pm

Every game matters…

The Magic swept the Cavs in the regular season 2 years ago and beat them in the playoffs.

The Magic demolished the Hawks in 3 of 4 games last regular season= Playoff beatdown.

THIS IS THE 4TH GAME, IN A BEST OF 11 SERIES!!!…Don’t try to sell this game short.

GO HAWKS!!!!

Michael Cunningham

March 30th, 2011
3:23 pm

@ Rev in Tampa: “Does Drew ever interact with you over things you have written or read on the blogs?”

nope. it’s been my experience that most coaches/players/GMs don’t read much of what’s written about the team or at the very least don’t let reporters know that they do. that’s probably a good strategy in the long run. it can’t be easy to have your job performance critiqued on a daily basis. they make a lot of money but they are still human.

Kenny C

March 30th, 2011
3:26 pm

I like the big line up, it has proven to do pretty well this year. I actually like any line up other than the Kirk/JJ/Marvin/Josh/Horford one. That line up seems to get smashed almost every time.

aytunstopable

March 30th, 2011
3:32 pm

you know what i want them to win and by some miracle if they beat them in the playoffs I will say hawks for the title lol.

In all seriousness I mhope they come out on fire. Also glad they aren’t playing the meaning of this game down… well atleast drew and joe aren’t. Normally they play it down and don’t show up so maybe by them not playing it down they will show up.

I said earlier in the year that the Hawks are better than the magic pre trade and post trade. and If atl hadnt been in this slump I’d still say it even now. All in all though if they just follow up like the heat. The heat beat a couple of bad teams then beat a good one and got on a major roll. hopefully the hawks will do the same after beating the Nets, and Cavs.

Geemack

March 30th, 2011
3:34 pm

Michael Cunningham

It’s sad when the most interesting thing about a team is their beat writers column.

Keep up the good work.

brigadierjerry

March 30th, 2011
3:42 pm

northclyde,

Yes Lenny was a very good coach for the Hawks.Hated the Manning trade. Manning was always hurt and underachieved that is why when Nique came back he killed Manning.What did you think of Mike Fratello as coach?

When you think about it with the right coach there isnt any reason why the Hawks ceiling cant be what the Mavericks are. The Hawks are equal to the sum of their parts. I would love to see Josh Smith play the same way Zach Randolph plays with the boards but the problem is and I think will have to be addressed is that Smith and Horford play the same position and it is my belief that one of them will have to be moved for the Hawks to get further

atlienforlife

March 30th, 2011
3:43 pm

This is a game tailor-made for teague to play. Sadly, I predict another dnp-cd.

Michael Cunningham

March 30th, 2011
3:45 pm

@Geemack: ha . . . . thanks, appreciate it.

2 for JOHN DREW

March 30th, 2011
3:51 pm

MC
I’m vacationing in Miami … And my BB buddies are asking me ” Why y’all don’t play Teague “?
It’s a shame b/c all I can honestly tell them (in my best scooby-doo tone) ….. ummm know !!!!!

Mike is back

March 30th, 2011
3:51 pm

What’s up MC, I thanked You, KS, and Big Ray on Big Ray’s blog…and I want to thank you personally easing pain of a tumultuous season…I don’t think I would still be engaged this season…if it wasn’t for you guys.
I have always been curious why JJ was such a cerebral quite guy…when he opens his mouth…you start to understand…dude rarely has anything substantive to say.

JJ and LD must know something about Orlando we don’t…Anyway…I don’t see Vangundy and Dwight losing a lot of sleep…if they have face LD and the Hawks…instead of Collins and Philly…But heck…what do I know.

Michael Cunningham

March 30th, 2011
3:55 pm

@Mike is back: thanks . . . J.J. surprises me sometimes. for example, he was the one guy downplaying the hot start to the season because of the competition and he’s seemed most affected by the recent slide. i didn’t expect either reaction from him.

Michael Cunningham

March 30th, 2011
3:56 pm

@ 2 for JOHN DREW: “MC I’m vacationing in Miami”

stop by Ted’s Hideaway and tell Potsie Mike C sent you . . .

JohnGTFan

March 30th, 2011
4:02 pm

You know what I expect from JJ…a good ball game….how about 20+ points, 5 assists, 5 rebounds. Pretty modest numbers, but compared to what he usually does against better competition, I’d take it! Oh, and this from a a guy making max money. Please someone buy this team. But season will be over soon and Braves season starts tomorrow!!!!!

JohnGTFan

March 30th, 2011
4:03 pm

of course he’s going to go 6 – 20 from the field, score 15 points, and sit out most of the 4th quarter…Orlando by 21. Hawks are just maddening.

JohnGTFan

March 30th, 2011
4:10 pm

I would love this lineup for tonight:

PG TEAGUE
SG WILLIAMS
SF SMITH
PF HORFORD
C COLLINS

Bench:
ZAZA
HINRICH
JAMAL
ETC
ETC

DNP – COACH DECISION: JOE JOHNSON!!!

LD would get my respect for that move! I’d love to see it. But, won’t happen.

Big Daddy

March 30th, 2011
4:16 pm

Dwight cannot beat the Hawks by himself no matter how many points he scores. With him being a lousy free throw shooter, we have a lot of fouls to give looking down the bench as long as they don’t use them all up right away. If the guys play their man tight and we double down everytime Dwight gets the ball we can force him to pass. If we do that we stand a chance. If they don’t, it will probably be another beat down. Make THEM a jump shooting team.

By the way, on the stream that I was following the Hawks v Cavs game, the announcers wondered out loud why LD doesn’t play Teague more. How is it everyone see that but the coach?

Ramon

March 30th, 2011
4:24 pm

MC, is there any chance you could ask JJ if he feels as if he’s lived upto his contract this season with his play? What is his view on his play, and does he still THINK he’s one of the elite?

newkid

March 30th, 2011
4:25 pm

Hint to Sund: Here’s how you build a team around D12 (if you’re fortunate enough to be around in future). “Obviously with Dwight, he’s a load. You have to really be refined on what you are doing against him. THIS TEAM IS A REALLY GOOD 3-POINT SHOOTING TEAM.” my emphasis added to the last sentence.

Your mission Mr. Sund, is to turn over all rocks to find the absolute best pure shooters available with your #36 pick in the upcoming draft (as well as with your 50th or 51st pick); cats who can be extremely effective in spreading the floor from range; cats like the kid Otis Smith picked up from the Nets in the Vince Carter trade; cats with the sort of potential represented by the kid you just traded to the Bullets.

It’s called taking the long view Mr. Sund, then acting – sooner rather than later – on that view. You’ve heard of that philosophy, haven’t you Mr. Sund?

Ramon

March 30th, 2011
4:25 pm

This is crazy, I can’t post on the site from my home pc anymore now that I’ve moved to Smyrna, but I can post from Bestbuy? Crazy. Every since I moved to Atlanta I’ve been unable to post any comments on the board.

terrell

March 30th, 2011
4:26 pm

“This is just all talk of course”. Exactly!

big o

March 30th, 2011
4:55 pm

Someone Anyone….. BRING DEWIGHT HOWARD HOME !!!!! number 1 pick for 3 years should do it. The Hawks win title if DH is on team next year Bring him home he will come

2 for JOHN DREW

March 30th, 2011
5:14 pm

THANKS MC,
One of my boys told me, the drinks are great but stay away from the eats!
I’ll see for myself. I glad ur name’s not Richie (as in Cunningham)w/ur boy Potsie and all, I would have been lookin’ for the FONZ ….. WTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I MUS WRITE

March 30th, 2011
5:36 pm

Big O….We can only dream- Dwight /Al Horford back court would be the best in the League. I dont know if we can afford dwight next summer with JJ;s contract hanging over our heads.

Trade for dwight next year before the Trade deadline – JJ,Smoove,Teague-2 1st round picks ofr what ever it takes -keep horford

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
5:39 pm

North-Cyyyde!

And to add to that stellar post, Mr. Johnson picked The Hawks – The Hawks did not pick him! How flattering was that to an 11 win team coached by
Lon “Freddie” Kreuger and Terry Stotts?

Then Eric Daimpeer and Kenyon Martin only came to be recruited by
The original Afro – Billy Knight. They only came for the steak dinner at Bones and to see the girls at “Magic City”. We were spurned by B-Level FA’s.

Joe came here to build his own team and be the man! We haven’t had anything close to getting that Super-Star! We just are not that attractive as an organization. We don’t need a team filled with B-Level talent, we need a block buster player now, a HOFer player now.

Maybe we can get Dwight under a new owner? If he would come, I honestly believe ASKG would go into the Luxury Tax to keep the main core. It’s our only hope now.
____________________

BrigadierJerry!

I posted my choice for coach on page 2 of the last blog, with great detail as to my rationale. I chose Jeff Van Gundy over Mike Fratello.

Like northcyde, I also like Lenny Wilkens too. Our defense was absolutely lights out! We harassed the hell out of MJ and Scottie with:

Mookie
Steve Smith
Stacy Augmon
Grant Long
Dikembe Mutumbo

Lenny turned Grant Long and Steve Smith into defensive stalwarts with his schemes, something those two were not known for.
The unforgivable was trading Nique. Also, Lenny won his 1000th game as a head coach in Atlanta. I was there the only time we fans ever saw confetti rain from the rafters! Those were the days.

JSS

March 30th, 2011
5:42 pm

You all have to admit, the old Woody-vs-Jeff Schultz battle was mighty fine entertainment!

JSS

March 30th, 2011
5:47 pm

drmaryb (*_-)
March 30th, 2011
5:39 pm
“They only came for the steak dinner at Bones and to see the girls at “Magic City”. We were spurned by B-Level FA’s.”

Somebody call Mr. Peabody and Sherman, the Way Back is stuck again on the Hawks! Somethings never change!

Rod from College Park

March 30th, 2011
5:53 pm

Ramon,

Same thing here. I still can’t post from home. Don’t understand it.

To all you Bring Dwight Home people. He a’int coming if Josh Smith is not here. Hope you guys are willing to get rid of Horford.

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
5:54 pm

MC

Great blogs all week long! Thanks man, I’m glad you’re back, I thought I was gonna have to come down to the practice facility with my portable table and hook you up with some chiropractic treatments!

I’m glad you’re ok. I was thinking you were under the weather?
I knew you had some shoulder injuries when you were out West on that 13 game road trip. So, glad you’re fine.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
6:02 pm

From the previous blog…

“On this team, even a mediocre playing JJ takes pressure off of the other guys. Not because JJ is that good, but because teams gameplan to stop JJ like he’s that good. ”

There is no law that states that a successful offense has to have someone who can command a double team. As the Nuggets are showing, a guy who draws a double team but can’t consistently use the opportunity to quickly get the ball to the open guy doesn’t necessarily have a positive effect on the offense as a whole.

There was a point when Joe was productive enough that teams threw an extra defender at him because a single defender couldn’t consistently stop him. But at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets doubled solely because teams see on tape how slow he is to react to the extra defender and realize they can shut down the Hawks offense entirely by doing so. In other words, it’s not the threat of him taking over a game but rather his inability to handle it that draws the double team in the first place.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
6:06 pm

“So the talk about the Magic must be backed up with action, though I’m sure my blog people welcome such talk if it increases the chances that the Hawks will be ready for this.”

At this point I think we are all pretty tired of talk, since most of the talk from this team hasn’t been backed up with action in a long time.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
6:09 pm

The last time I was at a regular season Hawks/Magic game, Smoove won it with a putback dunk at the buzzer. The last time I was at a Hawks/Magic game of any kind, I lost my voice by halftime yelling “Fire Woodson”. Let’s hope tonight my experience at Philips is more like the first and less like the second.

J from the A

March 30th, 2011
6:10 pm

Rod from College Park

March 30th, 2011
5:53 pm

“Ramon,

Same thing here. I still can’t post from home. Don’t understand it.

To all you Bring Dwight Home people. He a’int coming if Josh Smith is not here. Hope you guys are willing to get rid of Horford.”

I think this is right. I also think Orlando will be looking for a starting-quality center in any trade involving Dwight. Al AND (Marvin or Zaza) for Dwight? The money works out. The other option would be offering JJ and some picks for Dwight. Money works out here, too, but I doubt the Magic bite on that one (although the Magic might also be in need of a starting-quality 2-guard next year).

I don’t know about the rest of the blog folk, but even though I would hate to see Al go, I would definitely trade him if it meant bringing home Dwight. The only problem post-Al-for-Dwight trade is that the little bit of depth the Hawks had would absolutely be killed, and there would be no cap space to pay for any additional really good role players.

Damn Teague

March 30th, 2011
6:12 pm

As a Hawks fan you go into every game hoping that this will be the game that it “Clicks” for this team. That Josh Smith realizes that the 3-point shot is not his most dangerous move, that JJ doesn’t struggle with double teams, Marvin Williams plays like his is 6′9″ & plays aggressive, that Al Horford demands to be more integral in the offense, Teague doesn’t spend majority of his time sitting in basically glorified floor seats with another DNP-CD, but most importantly of them all that this team gives 48 minutes of just consistent effort on both ends of the floor. Sometimes the Hawks can tease you and do some or all of these things for stretches, quarters, whole games even (against lesser competition) Only to revert back to the same bad habits that caused them to be historically swept last year. This year as I watch the games I found myself less interested in the final score as much as I used to be, but instead focusing on whether this team is forming winning habits, playing hard, playing like they actually care out there.

I know that it is unrealistic to believe that this will be the game where this coaching staff and players all “figure it out” but as a fan I can HOPE…….. right?

I feel a W tonight! Go Hawks!

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
6:17 pm

“If the guys play their man tight and we double down everytime Dwight gets the ball we can force him to pass. If we do that we stand a chance.”

If anything this is exactly the opposite of what has worked. Single cover Dwight, make him score, let him get his, and stick to the perimeter supporting players like glue. That’s what worked against them last March, that’s what has worked this season, and that’s what will work tonight.

And it wouldn’t hurt to take the ball at him strong and get him into foul trouble, although we all know that’s not going to happen with this team.

The Game Has Changed

March 30th, 2011
6:18 pm

What made me mad if last year they hardly played Collins. Come playoff time, the first time they put him in he did well. Once he picked up his 3rd foul in the first half they took him out. Im saying to myself leave him in. If he is the only one that can stop him leave him in you havent played him all season. As soon as they took him out we got blown out.

vava74

March 30th, 2011
6:27 pm

Howard is headed to LA.

Stop that nonsense.

On the different note, read again and register what MC said about JJ.

Criticise him for not reacting well on court to adversity/frustration but record MC’s words anyhow.

The guy cares.

W.R.Terrell

March 30th, 2011
7:02 pm

I get the feeling that the “SOFT’S” are expected to throw a BEATDOWN on Orlando. That means you expect the “smoove” to play within his strengths…..ohhhhhh k, and that ISO Joe won’t POUND…..POUND….POUND. Hmmmmm….Has anybody thought that the Magic wants to deliver a message also. I would like a win and what happens if we win? Glory for a couple of days. I want wins for the remainder of the regular season, not just one game. We deserve that suffering thru what we have witnessed so far. If the “smoove” launches and ISO pounds then the usual will happen, another blistering defeat. I am going to the t.v. now because I wanna yell and scream and see a victory, I have a secret weapon just in case they perform as usual, it’s called “BLOGGING”, or hostility release. See ya’ll at halftime.

soldierman

March 30th, 2011
7:12 pm

a tell tale sign for tonight constant passing outside the lane ending with josh taking a 3.

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
7:14 pm

Wow, terrible start.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:14 pm

joe will lose this game for the hawks

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
7:14 pm

Joe airball a 15 footer, oh boy.

soldierman

March 30th, 2011
7:14 pm

is it me or does when jj is playing the hawks are a different team in regards to playing in the paint? almost as if they depend on JJ too much

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:15 pm

come on josh dont be scared of howard geez

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
7:17 pm

Yo Jason Collins LOVES playing Dwight Howard LOL!

soldierman

March 30th, 2011
7:17 pm

2 files on DH we should be destroying the paint now

soldierman

March 30th, 2011
7:18 pm

correction fouls, lol trying to work and blog at the same time

Katie

March 30th, 2011
7:19 pm

way to go Twin for taking that foul!

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:19 pm

howard out the game and we stil shoot jumpshots…bad coaching

Sautee

March 30th, 2011
7:19 pm

No shot blocker and Joe and Josh taking jumpers. SMGDH.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:20 pm

Take advantage of Dwight not being in there, drive to the basket!!

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
7:20 pm

Al Horford yet to take a shot while Josh has taken 5, 3 of them being long jumpers.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:21 pm

Make the magic play defense

Jerome

March 30th, 2011
7:22 pm

Pretty solid start by the Hawks. My only complaint so far is that Al hasn’t been involved in the offense yet. That’s never a good thing when Al is ignored. The Hawks need to take advantage inside with Al and Josh while Dwight is on the bench.

O'Brien

March 30th, 2011
7:22 pm

Good start by Collins.

If he was in shape last year, I wonder if Woody would have played him against Orlando? Probably not, because Woody wasnt even smart enough to figure out to play Dwight one on one, let him get his, and stay on the shooters (which is what the good teams did).

Hawks taking a ton of jumpers early.7 of 10 shots from 16 feet and beyond.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:23 pm

smh joe

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:24 pm

Great D mr. crawford

Sautee

March 30th, 2011
7:25 pm

Well Nelson will get whatever he wants on JC1.

WHY, LD, WHY?

O'Brien

March 30th, 2011
7:25 pm

Jamal is in the game at PG. Oh Oh…

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:25 pm

Jamal @ pg instant bucket..

now he looks to the ref like it was his fault.. next time a teammate ..

Sleepy

March 30th, 2011
7:27 pm

so Hedo does anything he wants and not one comment

Ryan Andereson as ell even bass got in son some garbage

nelson makes a jumper and everyone goes in about jamals defense .

and people wonder why we are in the position we are in lol

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:28 pm

dribble penetration from Nelson creating open looks..

LD refuses to play Teague.

bs, crap mins vs nets and cavs. smh

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:28 pm

steve smith just called joe a superstar on nbatv

Heimer

March 30th, 2011
7:28 pm

Why does Al only have 1 shot? Why does this team never learn?

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:30 pm

I like Marv coming off the bench, may have found his niche

Sautee

March 30th, 2011
7:30 pm

sleepy,

A lot of it is how easily Jameer got past Jamal. And that happens with whomever he is guarding. Yeah, others should step it up too, but Jamal is easily the worst defender of our regular rotation players. Easily the worst.

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:31 pm

2nd bad pass from your pg Jamal Crawford.

soldierman

March 30th, 2011
7:31 pm

could it be that the lightbulb finally has gone off for marvin. He seems to be a totally different guy lately. His mentality and attitude on the court has been vastly improved lately

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:31 pm

@Heimer, thats where I want Al to become more aggressive and demand the ball.

Gerald

March 30th, 2011
7:32 pm

Does anyone want to guess who is, once again, leading the team in field goal attempts? It’s Josh Smith, again, with 7 field goal attempts. I don’t know why Josh is so hell-bent on shooting the ball. At this point, he’s 3-7, which isn’t too bad, but if he continues to lead the team in attempts and shoots the way he did against Cleveland (5-16), I’m going to be very disappointed in him.

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
7:32 pm

Marvin may just be the person who steps up this post season for it, he’s been playing so good lately.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:32 pm

hedo is a beast

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
7:33 pm

Jamal is a turrible passer! Turrible …. Turrible! Tell that
B!tch to run a curl and just shoot!

TEAGUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally!

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:33 pm

TEAGUE sighting for the last 40 seconds??

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:33 pm

Has marvin played good against a elite team?

tremaine

March 30th, 2011
7:33 pm

TEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:34 pm

Teague took Jameer clean out the play.

but he cant find any mins.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:34 pm

lmaoooo did nique say heat wtf

Sleepy

March 30th, 2011
7:34 pm

everyone on this team gets beat easily at some time or another if i sat down and decided to comment on EVERY SINGLE MISTAKE made I dont think I could type that fast . THATS A FACT .

My point if if youre gonna demand it demand it from everyone not just one or two guys you may not like or simply because you think hes taking Teagues minutes

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:34 pm

way to go Marvin.. keep knocking them down sir.

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
7:34 pm

Marvin! Come on boy show us something!

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:34 pm

Marvin is Hawks 6th man next year

Katie

March 30th, 2011
7:35 pm

@ J.J.M

lol

cp

March 30th, 2011
7:36 pm

shocked to see Teague this early. he was glued to Nelson on that possesion. Marvin is really shooting the ball well.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:37 pm

@Sleepy,

your absoulutely correct, but when the coach complains and yanks a certain player for his mistakes he should do it CONSISTANTLY!!

My point if if youre gonna demand it demand it from everyone not just one or two guys you may not like LOL

Sautee

March 30th, 2011
7:37 pm

sleepy,

If you look back at posts during games, you’ll see PLENTY of posts about every player on the team’s failures. Plenty. I don’t think this group of bloggers let’s bad play off the hook. If you do, then we disagree.

Art Vandelay

March 30th, 2011
7:37 pm

marvin is our best player ;)

Sleepy

March 30th, 2011
7:37 pm

Drews offense is horrible

Gerald

March 30th, 2011
7:37 pm

Here’s something that doesn’t make sense. Dwight Howard has been on the bench almost the entire first quarter, and yet, the Hawks have made almost no attempt to attack in the post. Josh attempted one or two post ups with no success, Al attempted and was successful on one, but other than that, we really didn’t even attack their big men inside. It makes no sense at all. Al was man-handling Anderson in that post-up, and then was being pretty aggressive calling for the ball in the post against Anderson on the next couple of possessions, but his teammates just ignored him. We should have milked those mismatches as much as possible before Dwight returns. Now, Dwight will be re-entering the game soon, and we are essentially in a tie-game because of our failure to recognize and exploit our mismatches. This team is so frustrating sometimes.

soldierman

March 30th, 2011
7:38 pm

J.J.M I noticed marvin’s on court attitude around the chicago game last week. thats when I just noticed the look.

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
7:39 pm

On this team Joe is a Super-Star! He is OUR Super-Star!
Love it or Hate it. It is what it is.

Sleepy

March 30th, 2011
7:39 pm

Gerald we are shooting 60% …………watch the game man

Gerald

March 30th, 2011
7:39 pm

I can’t believe Teague is actually in the game in the second quarter. Wow. L.D. must really want to win this game.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:40 pm

why does howard always make his free throws against us

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:40 pm

Jeff needs to work on a pull up jumper.. that floater is a prayer..

Art Vandelay

March 30th, 2011
7:40 pm

for as many as he takes, Teague has to posses the worst teardrop/floater in the league

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:40 pm

@Sleepy Floyd

Our point is why play the SG that plays no defense at PG, play the better defensive PG at PG and play the scoring SG at SG, just that simple.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:41 pm

come on marvin play smarter

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:41 pm

GET ZAZA OUT THE GAME

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:42 pm

I never expect much offense from Teague, just solid perimeter defense and push the tempo when the let him bring up the ball

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:42 pm

Dwight just refuses to miss ft’s against us.

Art Vandelay

March 30th, 2011
7:42 pm

@bigdave

i don’t think he necessarily has to learn another move. he needs to learn how to make that floater drop. maybe he’s to be doing things that are fundamentally wrong or something with that move. it would be such a weapon if he learns how to be effective with it… he gets nice penetration when he drives the paint and that teardrop would be lethal.

Katie

March 30th, 2011
7:42 pm

@ drmary

as often as i agree with you, im going to have to disagree with you on that statement. JJ isnt our superstar, he just so happens to be our highest paid player. Atlanta doesn’t have a superstar. Sure we may need JJ at his best for the post season but he is by far our star. He’s only the superstar when all star weekend is approaching, as we saw in Janurary..

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:43 pm

same thing I said@bigdave its like this every game

cp

March 30th, 2011
7:43 pm

Teague has to learn when to go with the floater and when to pull up for a jumper. Zaza is being abused by Dwight right now

Gerald

March 30th, 2011
7:43 pm

Sleepy, we were shooting 60% because the jump shots were falling. They are not going to fall forever. That’s why you need to mix it up inside.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:44 pm

I saw some wwe wrestlers at the game

Gerald

March 30th, 2011
7:44 pm

On another note, we need to get Tubby back on the floor. Zaza is being abused right now.

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
7:45 pm

Teague gets the quick hook….

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:45 pm

some good playoff pairings.. i hope seeding holds.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
7:46 pm

magic are just hustling more than the hawks right now

cp

March 30th, 2011
7:46 pm

Teague gets pulled quick but Jamal is turning the ball over and stays in

Katie

March 30th, 2011
7:48 pm

So im really liking Collins right now! Almost makes me excited for the playoffs again..

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:49 pm

Teague is done for the night most likely :(

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:49 pm

nice

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
7:50 pm

Jamal could go 2/15 with 5 TO’s and get 30 minutes, while Teague takes a bad floater and plays great perimeter D and will like only get 5 minutes in the second half.

Gerald

March 30th, 2011
7:51 pm

See how much better the offense looks when Al is involved? The sad thing is that we could run those post-ups and pick-and-pops with Al all night long if the team really wanted to, but they’d rather settle for tested jumpers by Jamal and Joe.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:51 pm

If Hawks would run a little bit more they could easily beat these guys, other than Dwight there isn’t a top defender on their team.

Gerald

March 30th, 2011
7:51 pm

*contested* jumpers, not “tested” jumpers

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:52 pm

Art..

thats a tough shot predicated on touch.. he tends to throw it up from 10 ft away from the hoop..
id prefer him to come to a stop, elevate, and pull up.. or maybe even a leaner..

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:52 pm

Would love to see less jumpers and more inside, Dwight has 2 fouls, get number 3!!!

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:52 pm

but if he knocks it down w/ Joe regularity .. hey.. no complaints..

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
7:52 pm

” CONSISTANTLY!!”
___________

Please don’t capitalize, double exclaim, and use words that you clearly can not spell. Either spell check it, or drop it from your vocabulary please? That is so annoying and distracting.

I am about to have a nervous breakdown from all the people that consistently misuse this word to complain about that very thing which they complain: CONSISTENCY!!
_________________

Twin is the game key to the paint. Marvin is balling. The bench is just awful and Jamal is getting on my other last nerve! Uggh!

O'Brien

March 30th, 2011
7:53 pm

LD has been horrible most of the season (imo). But one thing I give him credit for is playing Twin and ZaZa single coverage against Dwight.

cp

March 30th, 2011
7:53 pm

surprised LD took Jamal out

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:53 pm

ask Kirk how tough that shot is..

nice dish by Joe..

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:53 pm

Man the magic take as many dumb shots as the Hawks LOL

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
7:54 pm

Smoove should cut like that so much more often.

Rev in Tampa

March 30th, 2011
7:54 pm

I hope collins doesn’t shoot any more this game. That was ugly

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
7:55 pm

Collins is putting the beef on Dwight…

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:55 pm

@drmaryb (*_-)

LOL cmon, there’s always incorrect spelling, but yes you are correct

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
7:55 pm

Collins plays so good against the Magic.

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:55 pm

JASON COLLINS!!!!!!!

loving what he brings against the Magic

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:55 pm

I usually rip him but thus far tonight Collins gets my props

O'Brien

March 30th, 2011
7:56 pm

I think Collins and Josh are the only 2 players who know how to take a charge…

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:56 pm

Smart Foul

Katie

March 30th, 2011
7:56 pm

2 dunks from josh with dwight in the paint. nice.

And i would really like to point out Collin’s excellent playing. Excellent match for Howard right now.

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:56 pm

dont be afraid to use that glass Josh, good patient move though..

Rev in Tampa

March 30th, 2011
7:56 pm

Home cooking charge it looked like to me. I’m glad it wasn’t Howard, otherwise Collins wouldn’t have gotten the call.

Katie

March 30th, 2011
7:57 pm

OMG ETAN!

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:57 pm

ETAN, do ya thang buddy!!!

cp

March 30th, 2011
7:57 pm

lol Etan only plays against Orlando

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
7:57 pm

Etan almost elbow his teammate on that rebound….

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:58 pm

Get that DUNK ETAN, send the arena into a frenzy!!!

Katie

March 30th, 2011
7:58 pm

JOSH FOR 3!!!

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:59 pm

Jameer w/ the ideal pull up game.

Jameer is a pg i feel Jeff could pattern his offensive game after, inside the 3 pt. line..

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
7:59 pm

Bad decision, great shot LOL

Rev in Tampa

March 30th, 2011
7:59 pm

I thought etan was going to knock out Hinrich with those elbows

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
7:59 pm

Hawks playing good basketball right now..

what a relief.

cp

March 30th, 2011
8:00 pm

Josh is having a good game

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
8:00 pm

Has anyone seen Al Horford? He got hos wish to play PF against Dwight and he’s still hiding from the paint. Has he taken Marvin’s cloak?
What do they do? Pass it around?

Did Teague do anything? I didn’t notice.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:01 pm

Teague played 3 min and missed a shot

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
8:02 pm

Pape Sy looks so happy just sitting there, I hope this guy gets some PT before the season is over.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:02 pm

In 3rd qtr I would drive, drive, drive & drive some more to the basket to get Dwight that 4th foul early.

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
8:02 pm

A win-able game if we stay inside!

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
8:03 pm

lmfaoooo marvin

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
8:03 pm

LOL @ Marvin drive to the rim

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
8:03 pm

keep putting that head down in driving Marv.. u might get a call every now and then..

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:04 pm

LOL@Magic with these awful shots

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
8:04 pm

JSmooooovvvveee

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
8:04 pm

nice controlled move from Josh

free yourself from defender, shot w/ confidence.. continue the patience Josh..

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:04 pm

Rather see Marvin aggressive like this

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
8:05 pm

marvin drove missed..caught the ball and handed it over to a magic player

Buddy Grizzard

March 30th, 2011
8:05 pm

Nice up fake Josh.

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
8:05 pm

nice.. good game

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:05 pm

Good game thus far Hawks, lets step it up now

Sautee

March 30th, 2011
8:06 pm

Damien gets Mario West minutes now.

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
8:06 pm

Al is really pissing me off! He is just standing at the FT
Line all game and watching Josh ball!

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:06 pm

Damn Collins sounds funny LOL, just keep ballin’ bruh.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
8:06 pm

I never heard twin talk before…needs some chalp stick though

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
8:07 pm

lmao@luke

tremaine

March 30th, 2011
8:07 pm

Nice half hawks.

lewis

March 30th, 2011
8:07 pm

jason collin is the smartest hawk

MsDee

March 30th, 2011
8:09 pm

Bass is a pain in the Tazz!!

lewis

March 30th, 2011
8:09 pm

orlando also just isn’t good anymore without gortat and barnes

Buddy Grizzard

March 30th, 2011
8:10 pm

drmaryb agreed I still see the Hawks biggest problem being they don’t crash the boards… shot goes up, 5 guys running back on D while the ball is still in the air. It’s great when JC1’s shot is falling but they shout still be establishing AH on offense every game.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
8:10 pm

kevin nash at the game

Gerald

March 30th, 2011
8:10 pm

drmaryb,

I’m not sure which game you are watching, but Al is definitely not hiding from the paint in this game. 4 of his 5 attempts have been in the paint/post tonight. He took 1 midrange, set shot and hit it, the other shots he took were a jump hook in the middle of the lane over ryan anderson (made), a jump hook on the right block over Bass (missed), a putback layup (off of his miss against bass), and a jump shot off of a post-up (missed). Against Anderson, in particular, Al looked very aggressive to me, he just didn’t receive the ball. He was banging inside with Bass also. I don’t know what you want from him. You can only do so much on the offensive end, outside of setting screens and getting offensive boards, when you don’t receive the ball. He definitely should have more than 5 shots, but you can’t put that entire blame on him, it’s not like he hasn’t called for the ball on numerous occasions.

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
8:11 pm

* … his wish to play PF …

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
8:13 pm

Please don’t play Jamal @ PG ever again! Please?
Even with Teague in, Jamal takes the ball! Why?
Let Jeff play PG please?

Buddy Grizzard

March 30th, 2011
8:13 pm

lewis I commented on a previous blog that Turk and Arenas were fading badly. I still maintain Arenas is done, washed up, horrible trade even though Rashard is out for the season. Taking on another season at $20m to bring in Otis Smith’s friend Arenas was a horrible move and will probably assure that Dwight is gone.

Turk on the other hand has been playing well lately. Gortat was alot to give up though. And yes they definitely miss the toughness of Barnes, even though he’s been injured most of the year and is buried way at the end of LA’s rotation when healthy. If Orlando doesn’t go to the finals this year, DH is gone.

Jerome

March 30th, 2011
8:14 pm

I agree with Buddy in terms of needing to crash the offensive glass more. It’s a matter of coaching philosophy and taste, but I, personally, would prefer to put a larger emphasis on offensive rebounding than transition defense. I would send the guards down court after every miss, but the big men should always be looking to crash the glass.

Sautee

March 30th, 2011
8:14 pm

“shot goes up, 5 guys running back on D while the ball is still in the air. ”

Yet we are out rebounding the Magic. Must be smoke and mirrors.

Or hyperbole.

Hawks Fan In New Oreans

March 30th, 2011
8:18 pm

I said I was through until the playoffs but who am I kidding. I cannot stay away. I am really pleased with the Twin on D12 matchup and the dazzling dunks by Smoove (not many long jumpers.) If JJ can hit molre of his shots and they stick with the plan, maybe get it to Horf and Smooth more – this will be a victory.

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
8:20 pm

Gerald

Thanks for the pep talk. I just several off plays and no player is moving period. The ball handler is stuck with his mates looking at open lanes though. I saw too much of that! We should be up by 12 pts at the half.

Al needs to be an aggressive dog down inside, going hard! Josh don’t wait on nobody! He is a blood hound in this half!
Thank goodness!

Rev in Tampa

March 30th, 2011
8:20 pm

Sautee,

Surely you have witnessed the inexplicable phenomenom of 5 Hawks flying back across the half-court line after a jumpshot. I am on my blackberry so I can’t look up how many of the Hawks rebounds are offensive.

Rev in Tampa

March 30th, 2011
8:23 pm

Magic are giving Collins all the credit for his play in shutting down Dwight

Buddy Grizzard

March 30th, 2011
8:24 pm

Sautee I’d like to be out rebounding the Magic more than 21-19. I’d also like to be leading them more than 46-43, which extra possessions makes possible. Don’t get me wrong I like what I see.. Josh is having one of his good shot selection games.

Collins +10
Teague -6
Zaza -6
Marvin -7

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
8:25 pm

A few quick thoughts from Section 116 (these are some amazing seats)…

Smoove and Collins came to play. Say what you want about Collins but he really excels at the one thing he’s paid to do.

Joe looks a lot more aggressive. Hasn’t always resulted in the right results, but I’d rather see him play like this all the time.

Good job by the Hawks drawing 3 first half fouls on Dwight. I thought they could have done a better job, though, capitalizing when he was out of the game. The ball should go in the post every possession regardless, but that is even more important when Dwight is out of the game.

For the love of God please give Teague as many or more minutes than Jamal.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:25 pm

Man these guys live & die by the 3, with that type of offense they won’t a championship

Buddy Grizzard

March 30th, 2011
8:25 pm

Only 2 orb 1st half Rev.

terrell

March 30th, 2011
8:25 pm

Excellent min by Collins. Should get a few min every game. Plays smart.

Rev in Tampa

March 30th, 2011
8:26 pm

Magic commentators are saying that the Magic have Josh right where they want him – shooting perimeter jumpshots.

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
8:26 pm

Damn Josh…

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:27 pm

I always scream, give it to a guard, but nice Defense

Katie

March 30th, 2011
8:27 pm

Josh for another 3. Great night for Smoove.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:27 pm

AGGGGGGHHHH then YEEEEEEEESSS!

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
8:28 pm

Damn Josh, you making pull my hair out…LOL keep playing big fella

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:28 pm

See ya Dwight

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
8:29 pm

lol@the refs

The Game Has Changed

March 30th, 2011
8:29 pm

Josh has fallen into a false sense of achievments with these jumpers

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:29 pm

Bob is killin’ me callin’ the fouls lol

Katie

March 30th, 2011
8:30 pm

WTF refs

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:30 pm

refs don’t wanna call another on Dwight

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
8:31 pm

What is this are you serious refs?

Katie

March 30th, 2011
8:31 pm

this is BS

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:31 pm

Dude just lost control of the ball, cmon refs

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
8:31 pm

can larry drew please get a tech for the team

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:31 pm

LOL@Bob

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:32 pm

12 seconds per ft attempt and still misses

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
8:32 pm

Bob trying to be the ref out here lol.

MsDee

March 30th, 2011
8:33 pm

Bass is a pain in the Tazz!! (needs repeating)

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:34 pm

Refs making the pace slow down and become ugly

Sautee

March 30th, 2011
8:34 pm

Rev,

No doubt. It was just an odd stat in light of that.

terrell

March 30th, 2011
8:35 pm

With Hinrich and Collins being able to guard Nelson and Howard 1 on 1, I dont see us getting embarrased in 4 srt8 like last year. Looks like Sund’s aquisitions might just work out.

MsDee

March 30th, 2011
8:36 pm

Seem like Dwight KNOWS the refs arent gonna call another foul on him cause he’s playing like he has no fouls at all!!

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
8:36 pm

Terrell (don’t call me te-relle)!

Collins should be our starting center every game! Period!
Why not? Get some stability on this line up.

terrell

March 30th, 2011
8:36 pm

Unfortanately if we lose, it’s the 1st rd, and not the 2nd rd like last year. Not good for LD.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:37 pm

Maybe we wanna get in front of #14

terrell

March 30th, 2011
8:37 pm

Ok LD, Kirk might be gettin tired. Put Teague on Nelson. No Jamal please.

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
8:38 pm

Wassup folks, Need Hinrich to make more of those

Katie

March 30th, 2011
8:38 pm

Josh for his 3rd 3.

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
8:38 pm

Keep shooting in Josh…..LOL

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
8:38 pm

Smoove!

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
8:39 pm

Wait has Josh not missed a three yet, is this some sort of fluke?

Sautee

March 30th, 2011
8:39 pm

Josh feelin’ the 3. I hope he remembers to go inside too.

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
8:39 pm

Smoove making 3’s…..the Gift and the Curse that keeps on giving!

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
8:40 pm

Josh! Put this team on his back! He is willing his team to victory!
The Magic really messed that team up – Otis Smith, got a little too cute?

Miss Dee said it! Matt Barnes and Gortat should have never been let go of! They look so human now!

Sleepy

March 30th, 2011
8:41 pm

7 jumpshots in a row ………waiting for the wheels to fall off

yoursporthouse.com

March 30th, 2011
8:41 pm

No fluke on Josh…I don’t know why his jump shot is not as good as it should be. His Dad had range buddy..STOOPID RANGE!!

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
8:41 pm

right @ him.. too easy.

Buddy Grizzard

March 30th, 2011
8:41 pm

Josh’s long jump shots have been bailouts and shots within the offense at the end of the shot clock… good shot selection all game… let’s see if he falls in love with the three since he’s made a couple of if he continues to go inside.

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
8:42 pm

Jameel has it in automatic and LD is going to use his defensive stooper Jamaal against him…

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
8:42 pm

trying to guard an All Pro pg w/ SG’s

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
8:42 pm

Al going hard in da paint

Buddy Grizzard

March 30th, 2011
8:43 pm

Horford’s FIRST trip to the foul line for the game? The Hawks are TERRIBLE at working the ball inside. This is our two time all star!

Sleepy

March 30th, 2011
8:44 pm

yeah its jamals fault Jameer is going off . LOL No one said a damn thing when he made the the Magics first 3 shot of the 3rd .

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:45 pm

Big ZZZZZZZZZZZ

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
8:45 pm

ZaZa at the buzzer…

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
8:45 pm

Zaza earned that thru extra effort.

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
8:45 pm

Do you dance Zaza, lmao.

MsDee

March 30th, 2011
8:45 pm

Hawks playing like they WANT to play the Magic in the playoffs!!!

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:46 pm

actually I did say something Sleepy lol.

Sautee

March 30th, 2011
8:46 pm

sleepy are you Jamal’s Grandma? ;-)

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:47 pm

Man lets start the 4th on a 12-2 run and put the pressure on the magic.

MsDee

March 30th, 2011
8:47 pm

LOL do us fans have nothing betta to do than to write on this blog WHILE watching the game?? Why cant we just WATCH the game and text on this blog afterwards?? LOL!!

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
8:47 pm

Seems like the crowd is just waiting for the Hawks to go into that 8 min scoring slump….

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:48 pm

I’m sure at some point Sleepy we all have said something negative about every player at some time, this is all in fun during the game

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
8:49 pm

Oh boy…

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:49 pm

i can go the bathroom during these ft attempts lol

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
8:50 pm

lol @ Jamal shooting cause he notice a defender running @ him.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:51 pm

In all seriousness, doesn’t it bother you guys when Phillips Arena cheers just as loudly for the opponents?

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:52 pm

Thats what I want more of AL, drive

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
8:52 pm

way to show and go Al..

good d Marvin..

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
8:52 pm

Marvin?

MsDee

March 30th, 2011
8:53 pm

Why didnt Joe give that ball to Marvin after that block?? Marv gave him that ball for it BACK, Joe!!

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:54 pm

Marvin 6th man of the year winner next season!!

Antawn

March 30th, 2011
8:54 pm

The Mighty Duck is back. Call up Emilio Estevez, it’s time for another sequel!

terrell

March 30th, 2011
8:54 pm

Guess Teague isnt in the playoff rotation. Cant play now, definitely wont play then. Sad. Could use his defense on Jameer. Oh well.

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
8:55 pm

LD should have put Twin in the game during that break to keep Z fresh

ceecee

March 30th, 2011
8:55 pm

Luv the effort the HAWKS are giving so far but two things they are doing that is driving me stoopid crazey!!
1)The bigs getting the rebound an bringing the ball up the floor(AL an Josh, almost every time)Al is bringing it up calling plays like a pg WTH! No telling how many baskets we could have if they pass the ball to the guards before they cross half court.

2)Kirk doesnt even look like he is trying to stay in front of JAMEER. As soon as Nelson turns the corner he stops. I thought this guy was supposedly so good defensively. He looks average to me. If he cant at least slow down the good pgs what did we get him for? I know Teague makes mistakes but give him some burn with the starters. The bench just messes up his passes and they dont move so he has an outlet when he penetrates.

GO HAWKS…PLAY HARD TILL THE CLOCK SAYS 0:00

yoursporthouse.com

March 30th, 2011
8:55 pm

Luke Cage, smoking is not good for you…ESPECIALLY CRACK!!

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
8:55 pm

dribble penetration.. Jamal beat. open shooter. refusal to play Teague..

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
8:56 pm

Marvin has to be aggressive while Gilbert is guarding him

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
8:56 pm

Marvin is playing great this game.

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
8:56 pm

keep driving Marvin..

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
8:56 pm

“Dwight Howards 7th foul.”

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:57 pm

Marvin can easily take Areanas, put marvin on the box and have him post up

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
8:57 pm

over and back. smh.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:58 pm

911, yes there’s a robbery in progress at the Phillips Arena, yeah they have on stripped shirts

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
8:58 pm

Loves when Bob says “BANG”!!!

Nique's Revenge

March 30th, 2011
8:58 pm

all the refs should be stuffed with gentlemen sausages everywhere

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
8:59 pm

big mins ZaZa

Nique's Revenge

March 30th, 2011
9:00 pm

dwight gets 15 fouls per game huh stern? nice

James on Pharr Rd

March 30th, 2011
9:00 pm

Luke

Marvin 6th man of the year winner next season!!

That’s not funny!!!! I put my house on that not happening even with a lock out season.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
9:00 pm

marvin turns the ball over 80 percent of the time when he tries to back toward the rim

Joe Mama

March 30th, 2011
9:00 pm

The hawks are so screwed by management, owners and the AJC it really doesnt Matter. In the words of bb king the thrill is gone!

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
9:00 pm

too many mismatches ..

good block work boy!

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
9:01 pm

That’s what you got to do Josh, put your body into them create the contact.

Buddy Grizzard

March 30th, 2011
9:01 pm

If Josh played like this every game, he’d be an all star and all nba second or third team every year. He has the talent, it’s all mental.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:01 pm

@James on Pharr Rd

Ok, comeback player maybe? LOL

yoursporthouse.com

March 30th, 2011
9:03 pm

Luke Cage..baby steps first. How about serviceable player first.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:04 pm

LOL

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
9:04 pm

good mins Marvin..

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:04 pm

Bingo Buddy G

terrell

March 30th, 2011
9:04 pm

Gotta give Josh credit. Still takes some bad shots, but the guy is definitely trying to post up inside more. When he plays under control, he looks untradeable. Would hate to lose him or Horford really. Especially with a real coach. Might want to see what we can get for Marvin, Zaza, Teague, or possibly Hinrich.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:05 pm

@Sleepy,

Now its Crawford time

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
9:05 pm

instead of driving trying to get Dwight out of here..we pulling up from 28ft

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:06 pm

At least Joe is attempting to drive to bucket

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
9:07 pm

where u @ Horford..? they mixing it up in there. thank God for Josh..

ATLFAN1

March 30th, 2011
9:07 pm

idk if it was already posted but ESPN is so damn dumb. At halftime I turned it to the New york-New Jersy game. They were showin a highlight of the first half of the Hawks game, and they reported joe was out with an injury when he was clearly playing in the first half lol.

James on Pharr Rd

March 30th, 2011
9:08 pm

Luke

Ok, comeback player maybe? LOL

I will always maintain that some sort of backdoor payola exists in the NBA-how do you explain Marvin’s presence in the NBA (even if only considering his time after his first rookie contract) and Paul Gasol’s trade from Memphis.

Sleepy

March 30th, 2011
9:08 pm

This game aint over we need to crash the boards

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
9:09 pm

Horford watching rebs.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:09 pm

Cmon fellas

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
9:09 pm

Take Jamal out….

tremaine

March 30th, 2011
9:09 pm

Drew trying to give this one away. Where is Collins?

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
9:09 pm

please let josh or horford attack howard. he will either move out the way or foul out…that simple

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
9:10 pm

F-cking LD going offense over defense, man…. Get Jamal out and put Twin in. WTF is he thinking going small right now. Hawks need stops.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:10 pm

Dwight touches the ball from here on out you have to wrap him up

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:11 pm

I do agree, Twin has earned the right to finish what he started tonight

Sleepy

March 30th, 2011
9:11 pm

We are getting stops we are just not getting boards

Sautee

March 30th, 2011
9:11 pm

JJM,

I’m sure you meant that it SEEMS like Marvin turns it over 80% of the time he backs in.

That was for you, Rod. ;-)

ceeCee

March 30th, 2011
9:12 pm

Put in Collins!!!! Al scared to box Howard butt out!!!! OMG!! LD U SUCK!

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
9:12 pm

how do you turn the ball over out of a time out

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
9:12 pm

Finally LD holds Jamal accountable.

Damn Teague

March 30th, 2011
9:13 pm

If they wanna continue to play through Howard for the final two minutes, then the rest of his points need to come from the free throw line.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:13 pm

Al is just way too small for Howard

ceeCee

March 30th, 2011
9:13 pm

NOT GETTING BOARDS IS NOT GETTING STOPS!

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
9:13 pm

smh@joe drive the ball

CONservative Johnson

March 30th, 2011
9:14 pm

Why isn’t Collins in there to try to get that 6th foul?

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
9:14 pm

Shot selection is the reason why the Hawks dont have a double digit lead

Bird

March 30th, 2011
9:14 pm

Where is Twin LD???

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
9:14 pm

ld is a horrible coach and joe is trying to play hero with a fade away jumpshot

CONservative Johnson

March 30th, 2011
9:14 pm

Okay, here comes Collins . . .

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
9:14 pm

what is Drew thinking?

Sleepy

March 30th, 2011
9:15 pm

Take Al out he should be held accountable

tremaine

March 30th, 2011
9:15 pm

Larry Do-do

terrell

March 30th, 2011
9:15 pm

LD puts Horford on Dwight at crunch time. Wow! Once again choosing offense over defense.

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:15 pm

Needed to put twin in game earlier, then Zaza would be in

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:15 pm

lets see what kind of play LD draws up, huge possession here

CONservative Johnson

March 30th, 2011
9:15 pm

Kirk has been terrible tonight . . .

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
9:15 pm

come on kirk

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:16 pm

No help defense

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:16 pm

Great shot

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
9:16 pm

put in tagueeeeee

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:16 pm

Get the ball out of nelsons hand

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
9:17 pm

good look Joe.. short on the shot.. damn.

Bird

March 30th, 2011
9:17 pm

Twin comes in and immediately takes D12 out the game.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
9:17 pm

lmaooo joe played hero again…SHARE THE BALL

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:17 pm

Awful shot joe, you should be held accountable LOL

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:17 pm

Nelson way to strong for Teague

tremaine

March 30th, 2011
9:17 pm

Iso

A True Hawks Fan

March 30th, 2011
9:17 pm

Give LD credit for taking JC out after that last turnover!

MsDee

March 30th, 2011
9:17 pm

I feel we are going to lose this one with a 3 by Orlando!!

Bird

March 30th, 2011
9:17 pm

If LD brings Twin in with 4 mins left, this game is over.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:18 pm

Sleepy LOL

Sautee

March 30th, 2011
9:18 pm

Wasn’t that some fine dribbling by Joe Johnson. mmmm, mmmm.

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:19 pm

Guard the 3!!!!

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:19 pm

Stay with your 3pt shooters, PLEASE!!!!

Ghief

March 30th, 2011
9:19 pm

Former Atlantan here living out of town. Just once, when watching GameCast on ESPN, I would like to read [Hawks player] drives the lane for a layup, instead of [Hawks player] jacks up an ill-advised jumper.

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
9:19 pm

I do not want to see overtime

Bird

March 30th, 2011
9:20 pm

Twin!!

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:21 pm

Need 2…. Make 1

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
9:21 pm

wow…

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:21 pm

TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN TWIN

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
9:21 pm

Not over yet, don’t foul stay down hands up.

tremaine

March 30th, 2011
9:22 pm

Bird

March 30th, 2011
9:17 pm
If LD brings Twin in with 4 mins left, this game is over.

Co-sign

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:22 pm

Foul before they shoot? On the inbounds?

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:22 pm

COVER THE 3 pretty please lol

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
9:22 pm

good win

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:22 pm

We win

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
9:22 pm

I will take the win….

Sleepy

March 30th, 2011
9:22 pm

I love how putting in twin guarantees victories now lol

Nique's Revenge

March 30th, 2011
9:23 pm

YESSSSSSSS hawks win we played them 5 on 8 and still won!!! HAH STERN!!!

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
9:23 pm

I’ll take Hedo shooting that over J-Rich any day of the year, great win.

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:23 pm

Great Game fellas, still got alot of work to do before playoffs, lets get ready

Damn Teague

March 30th, 2011
9:23 pm

Nice win…. now lets try to duplicate this effort for the rest of this year! Wishful thinking huh?

terrell

March 30th, 2011
9:23 pm

Smith and Collins for co-players of the game.

CONservative Johnson

March 30th, 2011
9:24 pm

Nice win . . . Good games by Josh Smith and Jason Collins

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:24 pm

Twin was held accountable lol

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

March 30th, 2011
9:24 pm

big win

Luke Cage

March 30th, 2011
9:25 pm

Want the same intensity and want to vs the old celtics friday night

MsDee

March 30th, 2011
9:26 pm

Jordan Crawford update: 33pts, 3 rebs, 3ast against the Heat down 6pts with 6:30 min left!!

tremaine

March 30th, 2011
9:26 pm

Good win hawks.

Bird

March 30th, 2011
9:27 pm

LOL @ Sleepy

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
9:28 pm

We got the MAGIC touch!

Hey Najeh! Did you enjoy the game? Did you hold up the kryptonite to the paint?

Hawks win and was in control the entire game!
Game Ball – JOSH!
Corn Ball – Jamal! Turrible passes all game long, he tried to give them the win all by himself. His passes are not sharp and crisp!
Kirk did a nice job on defense and hit a couple KEY baskets.
Nice all around game!

I saw Teague! He gave us nothing! He can NOT come in status qou and play like he’s one of the boys. He is not one of the boys. Teague has to learn that every second on the court he has to run like hell to the rim, finish or dish to the trailer. If he could do that ONE thing, he will get some quality PT!

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:28 pm

I’ll be in my seat on Friday night.

terrell

March 30th, 2011
9:28 pm

Guys, Jordan Crawford is NO LONGER a Hawk.

Jae Evolution

March 30th, 2011
9:30 pm

Jordan Crawford is going ham on the Heat right now…*sigh*

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
9:30 pm

Watching the Wiz/Heat game. You would think Jordan is M.Jordan the way he has the green light to shoot the ball….

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:30 pm

I like how Smoove understated the victory

A True Hawks Fan

March 30th, 2011
9:31 pm

Good interior defense and winning the rebonding battle will produce results this most of the time

MsDee

March 30th, 2011
9:31 pm

@terrell

Yeah he is just like Micheal Vick is a FOREVER Falcon!!

W.R.Terrell

March 30th, 2011
9:34 pm

WE WON! I wanted to blog after the 2nd half but was GLUED to the chair. Jason (twin) Collins was a big factor in this one, he kept Dwight under control. The “smoove” had a wonderful but scary game. I hope all that launching will cease when we play Boston friday evening because that is not his game. ISO Joe is passing out of the double teams a lil quicker. Jamal is Jamal, a great play here a fugged up one there and Marvin is becoming more aggressive. We caught hell beating a cripple team tonight but I ain’t weeping for Orlando. I hope twin is in Howards head. I’m gonna leave it at that. My Nitroglycerin tablets were almost used (whew). A win is a win and we won.

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
9:34 pm

Jordan Crawford has attempted 122 shots in the last 6 games. The MOST by any player in the league.

Katie

March 30th, 2011
9:34 pm

terell..

thank you

Doug

March 30th, 2011
9:35 pm

Jordan C does have talent…but he is shooting historically bad from the field…35% overall and 18% from the 3 pt line…he just shoots a really lot. Yes he could develop into a better all around player but to this pint he is a high volume-low percentage shooter on a horrible team

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
9:36 pm

Is Al gonna’ play this team and dominate?
Are they in his head? Did yall see the look on Dwight’s face, when coach put Jason back in? He was like, oh no! Not him again!

Jason hit that huge FT to put it away, the Magic did not live by the three, they died from it.

MistaGamer

March 30th, 2011
9:36 pm

Jordan Crawford

36 pts tonite!!!

Rufus1

March 30th, 2011
9:36 pm

Game ball to LD

Jamal 22min–A+
Closing the game on defense–A
Marvin 19min, 10pts on 4of 6 shooting an 6rbs–A

Great Game LD

prison mike

March 30th, 2011
9:37 pm

I think drew has a little tard in him. He finally inserts collins LATE in the 4th and it instantly neutralizes dwight. He earned the right to play what his body allowed him to while that good of defense.

Samuel

March 30th, 2011
9:39 pm

Nique: “JC2 is a volume shooter. He can get anything he wants”.

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
9:39 pm

4th Spot?

Abe the Fan

March 30th, 2011
9:42 pm

Yes, the Hawks won but can somebody tell me why Joe couldn’t/didn’t/can’t learn to pass out of that forced shot he took with seconds left?!?

CONservative Johnson

March 30th, 2011
9:47 pm

Wow . . . Jordan Crawford scores 39 against the Heat (though his team got blown out)

J.J.M

March 30th, 2011
9:48 pm

jordan crawford 39 points

Rufus1

March 30th, 2011
9:48 pm

Are we a better rebounding team with Twin?

richbrave

March 30th, 2011
9:49 pm

Oh my, thank you ATLANTA. JC and MO drop 60 on the HEAT in a losing effort. 39 for JORDAN CRAWFORD and 21 for MAURICE EVANS.

ILL-Logical

March 30th, 2011
9:49 pm

Not a classic but a win none the less.Against a potential playoff opponent,no less. However,
I question some of Drew’s coaching: not exploiting Dwight’s foul situation in the second half by going against him and the refusual to play Teague when Jamar was lighting Hinrich up!
Kudos to Josh for playing on the perimeter defense with the bad knee.
Just for S&G, wonder if Wes Unseld or even Ben Wallace would complain about having to guard taller/stronger players at the center position?

O'Brien

March 30th, 2011
9:50 pm

Great win for the Hawks, and this should help their confidence going up against the Magic.

Hinrich didnt shoot well, and Jamal didnt play well (what else is new), but Marvin played well off the bench (again), and very good game from Josh and Twin.

The Game Has Changed

March 30th, 2011
9:51 pm

One more win and we can rest the rest of the reagular season. The 76ers will need to go 6-1 if we go 1-6. We are about to shock the world in the first round

richbrave

March 30th, 2011
9:51 pm

At thinking at this point that RICK SUND is not much of a GM. CRAWFORTD has been spectacular scoring for a moribund team in D.C. EVANS has played great defense and contributing well on offense.

Section 212

March 30th, 2011
9:51 pm

@Abe – no movement on offense. Everyone was hanging at the 3. When defenders collapsed, someone should have gone to the front of the rim especially since they knew he was going to shoot.

O'Brien

March 30th, 2011
9:52 pm

JC2 has taken some bad shots in his Wizards career, but tonight, he went 12-24 (5-8 from 3), 10-10 from the FT line, finishing with 39 points, 3 rebs and 4 assists.

However…he also had 5 turnovers

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
9:55 pm

Knicks up 5 pts on NJ with 6:08 to play: 105 to 100
ESPN said D’Antonio is standing there WAF (with arms folded).
I just had a flash back from KevinM last season – WAF.

LOL!

The Game Has Changed

March 30th, 2011
10:01 pm

@O’Brien-Eventhough he had 5 turnovers, they only scored off one of those turnovers.

jeremiah

March 30th, 2011
10:01 pm

you should get jordn crawrod back becuse he hit 39 points

O'Brien

March 30th, 2011
10:08 pm

Man, Bad teams find a way to lose. This game was there for the Nets to win, and they are taking some bad shots…

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
10:10 pm

OB

Of those 12 misses, if Jordan has passed a few of those, maybe they win?
What was the final score?

jeremiah

March 30th, 2011
10:11 pm

you should get jordn crawford back because he hit 39 points
and you need to frider the coach

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
10:19 pm

* had

richbrave

March 30th, 2011
10:21 pm

For those of you who think all CRAWFORD does is jack up airballs and gets his points on volume check out his stat line for tonight.

J. Crawford G 45:43 minutes, 12 MdFG-24 AttFG, 10 AFT-10 MFT, 5 M 3Pt-8 Att 3 PT, 3 Reb, 4 Assts, 0 Blk, 0 Stl, 5 TO, 3 PF, 39 pts

Rusty

March 30th, 2011
10:21 pm

I don’t care what anyone says jc2 will be a star in this league.

Rusty

March 30th, 2011
10:23 pm

Again poor coaching by ld.

richbrave

March 30th, 2011
10:25 pm

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
10:10 pm
OB

Of those 12 misses, if Jordan has passed a few of those, maybe they win?
What was the final score? No chance. 123-107

He played great. With WALL dismissed, he had to take over the point. Do you know how hard it is to get dimes with the ‘ZARDS? First you got to have players capable of a-catching the pass, and b-finishing the play. The coach has green lighted him. He’s not out of control up there in D.C.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
10:27 pm

The kind of things you notice when you are five rows back from the Hawks’ bench:

A good four possessions before LD called timeout to bring Collins back in during crunch time, after Dwight hit a hook shot over Al to cut the Hawks lead to 4, Smoove ran by LD yelling at him to get Collins in the game, yelling “He’s too tall!”

Good win for the Hawks, but there was no reason whatsoever for LD to go small in crunch time. I will never understand his affinity for playing Jamal. Not that it was Jamal’s fault that Orlando made their comeback — Al’s inability (through no fault of his own) to guard Dwight was the reason for it — but if LD didn’t inexplicably think so highly of Jamal, one can presume he would have gone with Collins much earlier in crunch time.

Make Smoove the coach.

richbrave

March 30th, 2011
10:28 pm

O’Brien:

However…he also had 5 turnovers

Rookie mistakes. He had to run the point.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
10:30 pm

“Hey Najeh! Did you enjoy the game? Did you hold up the kryptonite to the paint? ”

It was a good game. I had amazing seats. I didn’t have to do any kryptonite holding, thanks to the crazy motherf-ckers decked out in all green in the cheering section.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
10:32 pm

Also, all that iso-Joe down the stretch reminded me an awful lot of Woody. Not a whole lot of motion going on late in the game.

James on Pharr Rd

March 30th, 2011
10:35 pm

Najeh

Why is it you think we couldnt find a taker for JC expiring contract last month? It hurts me to think we could have got someone out there or a draft pick, but we wasted our opportunity.

Your’e right about LD-The dude is a gym instructor-a different version of Woodie in a suite that folds easily… No disrespect intended though.

James on Pharr Rd

March 30th, 2011
10:37 pm

That isso is unfortunatle the only way we can play to JJ strength because as most fans have noted on this blog, JJ doesnt work off the ball very well and he needs time to get a good shot. Sometimes they drop, and other times they dont.

James on Pharr Rd

March 30th, 2011
10:39 pm

I would have loved to see the coach take a chance on JT not because I think he is good, but because we need confirmation that we made another bad pick for the nth time. I bet you Rick Suund goes the Woody route this offseason….

James on Pharr Rd

March 30th, 2011
10:41 pm

For the record,I want everyone to remember where they heard this from 2/1/2 months from now-The Magic will play for the Eastern conference Finals and shock themselves, and many- to the Finals again.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
10:43 pm

Wow WTF… someone apparently attacked Nique after the game and got arrested. I am resisting the temptation to make a possibly funny but certainly tasteless joke until I hear confirmation that he is OK.

an atl fan

March 30th, 2011
10:50 pm

jc2 goes for 39… every point he scores for washington makes me cringe… rick sund may have traded away a star

cp

March 30th, 2011
10:56 pm

good win tonight but i still dont like how long it takes LD to make adjustments. Hinrich and Jamal could not defend Nelson

this Mc Donalds all american game is pretty good. Teague’s little brother is quick as hell and Doc Rivers son looks like he is going to be a good player.

Grandad

March 30th, 2011
10:56 pm

I’m not knockin’ JC2, but;
I’m assuming he guarded D.Wade this eve:
D.Wade = 33 pts. & a +19 (+/-)
JC2 = 39 pts. but a -11 (+/-)
JC2 actually raised his shooting %’s:
to 37% (overall) & 22% (3 pt range) = not good.

What does this mean?
He is a high volume gunslinger with poor shooting %’s.
He is a mediocre defender at best / giving up as many as he gets.

However, does this excuse Sund for giving up too much?
Absolutely…..No…..It does not !
I would be okay with the trade had we not thrown in the 1st round pick.
In other words, I’m fine with Hinrich and also Armstrong.
[just not JC2 + the pick]

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
10:56 pm

The only thing that gives me pause in anointing Jordan as a future star (or at least a future solid contributor) is that Mo Evans, a certified bench player if not an outright scrub, has put up some impressive totals as a Wizard as well. If the Wiz are playing loose enough to where Mo can put up point totals in the 20s with regularity, it stands to reason that Jordan probably wouldn’t be putting up eye-popping totals in a more structured scheme.

With that said, he certainly looks like he could match what Jamal has done for his career, even if/when he lands on a better team.

Blue

March 30th, 2011
10:57 pm

@ an atl fan

I’ve been checking JC2 stats since they traded this kid. This kid is sick. We all knew he had skills if he could just get some PT. I’ve been screaming this to anyone who would listen. The Hawks will live to regret trading this kid. Barring injury, this kid will blossom into a perinial all star. Real Talk.

MJC

March 30th, 2011
11:01 pm

@Blue

Are you sure you have been checking JC2’s stats? Did you see the stat labeled “FG%”?

James on Pharr Rd

March 30th, 2011
11:08 pm

JC with the Wizards is exactly like former NBA journey man point guard Anthony Johnson lighting it up when he was forced to take 20+ shots after the Brawl for the Pacers. A lot of players in this league, and I dare mention Marvin William, can post such numbers if they get the shots and the flexibility from a coach like Flip Or Don Nelson….

terrell

March 30th, 2011
11:09 pm

Holla at me when Jordan Crawford makes an all-star team. Hell, Jamal could score 60 a game, if he was on the Wizards and had the green light. And thanking us for Mo Evans are you? lol Your’re welcome.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
11:11 pm

It’s too bad the Hawks had to suck so bad for the last few weeks. With this win, if the gap was closer and Orlando’s schedule wasn’t so soft, one might say there’s a realistic shot at catching Orlando. But after the hole the Hawks dug after the All Star break, it is virtually impossible for them to make up 4 games with 7 remaining, even after clinching the season series (and playoff tiebreaker) against them.

James on Pharr Rd

March 30th, 2011
11:11 pm

Yes I saw his FG%

Have you seen Perkins or Marcian Gortat’s too? There are lies, damned lies and Statistics

Najeh Davenpoop

March 30th, 2011
11:12 pm

Really, as bad as the month of March was, the Hawks did have three quality wins during that otherwise dismal stretch: vs. Chicago, vs. Portland, and now vs. Orlando. It’s too bad they couldn’t stretch some more of them together.

If they can beat Boston on Friday (which is entirely possible given how vulnerable Boston has looked post-Perkins), maybe they can put that stretch behind them and work towards building some confidence going into the playoffs.

Section 303

March 30th, 2011
11:13 pm

Good win by the Hawks. I can’t get too excited, though. I’ve sat through too many blowouts/no shows this season. A win on Friday might just get me back on the bus.

Najeh, hope you enjoyed yourself tonight. Wish I had known you were there. Would love to meet you sometime.

Good game by Josh. Still too many jumpers, however. Tonight they just happened to go in. That is not usually the case.

Jason Collins continues to do to well against Howard. Van Gundy said it was the best defense played on Haward all year.

Rusty

March 30th, 2011
11:15 pm

He is only a rookie. Who the hell on the hawks can create there shots inside or out like jc2. JJ certainly can’t drive to the hoop like this kid.the only way jj can match this kid in scoring would be to take a high volume of shots also,even then he can’t get to the hoop. JJ game is slow while jc2 flies.JJ is on the way down while JC2 is on the way up. I would take jc2 over JJ at a fraction of the cost.

James on Pharr Rd

March 30th, 2011
11:15 pm

Najeh
I would have loved for that to happen to the Hawks-any path other than the Magic. I still maintain that Woody is still coaching the Hawks if we play the Cavs and not the Magic last year. (And not because they folded to the Celtics) We have always matched better against the other East elite compared to the Magic and I dont see that changing in the playoffs.

James on Pharr Rd

March 30th, 2011
11:18 pm

Hey guys: we begged for a point guard and in desperation we ended up giving away a lot of pieces. But, dont say, Rick Sund did not respond to your posts? lol

James on Pharr Rd

March 30th, 2011
11:22 pm

I cant wait for that Bulls Miami Series- and LA/Thunder…….

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
11:23 pm

Najeh!

WOW! I can feel the excitement in your voice. I sure wish I could meet you in person one day. I picture you with locks and that goode!
I sure would love to hang out with a cool basketball head like you!

LOL! I’m gonna have to send my Limo driver to come get you one day and get us some courtside seats for the ECF if we go that far! And Grand-Daddy too! WOW! Man you just say a low-scoring play off type game 5 rows behind the bench!

Did you see ZaZa balling? And Jason Collins (the real JC2) intimidate Dwight? I saw either Tyrone Hill or Van Exel jump up and punch him in the chest when he came out of the game one time. It was a dark blue suit, the camera showed the assistant only from chest down though!

JC2 blowing up in Washington, IDK what happened to Wall but they may have won with him? Seems like no defense over there though.
Maybe we can get Jordan to come back when he is free?
I always sd he was a little DWade clone myself!

I just so happy we won, so excited. 4th Spot? Hmmmm …

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

March 30th, 2011
11:26 pm

wtf? Nique got attacked? I wonder why

http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-hawks/hawks-fan-attacked-wilkins-892407.html?cxtype=rss_news_81963

James on Pharr Rd

March 30th, 2011
11:27 pm

LMAO

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
11:29 pm

I hope Nique “whupped” that trick!
Don’t they know what Nique means to Atlanta?
He is our ELVIS! You mess with Nique? You messing with a child of God!

These crazy people on crack or what? How do they even get inside the arena?

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

March 30th, 2011
11:29 pm

“The Hall of Famer Wilkins was not seriously injured in the incident.”

they said my boy shook it off….didnt even phase him.

Lionhearted

March 30th, 2011
11:33 pm

Nique prolly said Heatcheck and the guy lost it

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

March 30th, 2011
11:39 pm

Rathbun must came out of nowhere and blind sided the fan. I know he had his boy’s back.

Hawk n the Ham

March 30th, 2011
11:40 pm

Nique > Chuck Norris

Didn’t this guy know??

Melvin

March 30th, 2011
11:43 pm

Watching Marques Teague (Jeff younger brother) play with that inner dog in the McDonalds HS All Star game….

bigdave

March 30th, 2011
11:43 pm

you know Bob wasnt having that $hit..

Lionhearted

March 30th, 2011
11:45 pm

LOL @ Mactown

I know Bob got in on that scrap lol

Lionhearted

March 30th, 2011
11:45 pm

I can imagine Bob acting like Tommy off of “Belly”

“U think this is a fuggin joke”

drmaryb (*_-)

March 30th, 2011
11:46 pm

What happened with Arena Security. I thought they kept a body on Nique and Cellini! They need to tighten that up.

Grandad

March 30th, 2011
11:48 pm

John Wall was ejected for a scuffle with Zydrunas Ilgauskas.
Big ”Z” elbowed Wall so Wall punched ”Z” in the ribs.
[a pretty good haymaker]
Then everyone danced and a good time was had by all.
[Juwan Howard was also ejected]

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

March 30th, 2011
11:48 pm

just let Zaza be Nique’s body guard

“Nothin E-Z”

Grandad

March 30th, 2011
11:54 pm

Mary Ellen…..^…..above …..^…..info…..about…..Wall;
was for you.
You said: you didn’t know what happened to Wall?

Rashod

March 30th, 2011
11:59 pm

WTF,i just saw Jordan Crawford drop 39 points.No one on the Hawks have scored that much this year,Larry Drew just sat him on the bench.He’s still doing it to Jeff Teague.Bye,Bye Rick Sund & Larry Drew !!!!!!!!!!!

slimjr

March 31st, 2011
12:13 am

Bosh got his Dunk attempt rejected in a spectacular way tonight by Javell McGee!!!!!! May be the block of the year…………………………..
JC2 went off on the Heat!!! A BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 39?????????????? Sund gave him up plus a #1 for WHAT??????????????????????
Prediction, Chicago going to the Finals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 13-3 in March!! Thats how you finish the season ,strong and sending out messages…………………
Hawks are 8-21 in their last 29………………………Yawn…………………………
Hawks

ReddJonn68

March 31st, 2011
12:14 am

Those shots that J-Smoove hit tonight will not fall in the playoffs, Drew is a joke as a HC, Orlando had plenty of open looks. They did what Hawks always do, live by the jumpshot & die by it. What the hell did Teague do to Larry Drew, slap his wife or what, Hinrich is a hard-nosed defensive guy, but shooting like that in the playoffs will just not cut it!

slimjr

March 31st, 2011
12:15 am

Collins should get the game ball tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slimjr

March 31st, 2011
12:17 am

2 more weeks and the jumpshots will stop fallin on National TV…BLAH BLAH BLAH…………………

ReddJonn68

March 31st, 2011
12:20 am

Sorry fans but JJ is just not a No. 1 option to run any offense thru, just stating the truth. He just doesn’t possess the tenacity of a Melo or a Wade. Wasted contract.

MsDee

March 31st, 2011
12:25 am

Jordan Crawford may have put up a lot of shots to get the points he has so far since being traded to Washington, but so did Kevin Durant when he was a rookie and took the Rookie Award from my boi Al Horford…BUT LOOK WHERE KEVIN DURANT NOW IN HIS BASKETBALL CAREER?? WOW, WHAT HAVE SUND DONE??

slimjr

March 31st, 2011
12:27 am

iso has lost a step or two…He also processing double teams slower than previous years….Not a good look….

MsDee

March 31st, 2011
12:29 am

We HAD a baller but gave him away..and I do mean, GAVE HIM AWAY!!

slimjr

March 31st, 2011
12:30 am

And Wade was guarding him and got torched by JC2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ARE YOU KIDDING ME???????????????

MsDee

March 31st, 2011
12:31 am

@Najeh

I do believe you was the one who said Boston may go down in history with the worst trade in Perkins b4 deadline, and I will add the Hawks right behind that one with the Crawford trade to the Wiz!!

ReddJonn68

March 31st, 2011
12:40 am

I may not be a B-ball guru, but you can’t score any points or play any D-fense when your azz is sitting on the bench next to a unqualified coach & staff!

slimjr

March 31st, 2011
12:46 am

Derrick Williams needs to become a Hawk! He’s going to be rookie of the year 2012!

Buddy Grizzard

March 31st, 2011
2:34 am

“Why is it you think we couldnt find a taker for JC expiring contract last month? It hurts me to think we could have got someone out there or a draft pick, but we wasted our opportunity.” – James on Pharr Rd

James I think it’s because JC1 had a career year last year but nobody wants to extend a one-dimensional player before we know how a new collective bargaining agreement is going to look. He had fallen off dramatically from last year’s career numbers and nobody was going to give up assets for somebody who is an unrestricted free agent at season’s end. Obviously no contenders thought he could put them over the top and offered the Hawks assets for him.

“If they can beat Boston on Friday (which is entirely possible given how vulnerable Boston has looked post-Perkins), maybe they can put that stretch behind them and work towards building some confidence going into the playoffs.” – Poop

Co-signed. I know I have alot of negative things to say about Sund & LD but in the end it’s the players who will decide their own fate this postseason. Orlando is vulnerable. Gortat, who Bob Rathbun used to say the Hawks made look like Wilt Chamberlain, is gone. Arenas is slower than Bibby. I think we can take them if the players show up.

“I would take jc2 over JJ at a fraction of the cost.” – Rusty

I think that trade was more about getting rid of Bibby than anything else. LD had a personal relationship with him and was going to keep playing him starter’s minutes no matter how much it hurt the team.

Now, Captain Kirk hasn’t been playing well enough to justify 2 first round draft picks. But JC2 another DWade? Please.

Sleepy

March 31st, 2011
8:59 pm

There were plenty of takers for JC why do you think he was down around the trade deadline . hes knows that there were trades available to the hawks with teams that wouldve extended him instead he got stuck on a team that didnt want to extend him .

His numbers have fallen over over last years numbers because he actually has bought in to the motion offense and has been moving the ball and trying to let the offense come to him but all of our offense produces for him is threes .

Jamal averaged 18 ppg in Jan on 14 shots per game just like last year and we had our best month of the season going 9-4 . His shots per game are now down to under 10 this month and our record is around .500 .

There is nothing wrong with jamals game besides him trying to produce the same results of last year in a much different role than last year . Hes taken a step back and allowed our big three to carry more of the load statwise and what we are seeing are the results of that .