Sixers 105, Hawks 100

Greetings, all-

Hang another L on the tree. If you’re still counting, the Hawks have lost four of five, eight of 11 and 14 of 21. I’d say it’s looking more and more like Philadelphia will catch the Hawks, which would likely put them in a first-round matchup with the Miami Heat. Yikes. The other possibility is Boston.

- I know you’re wondering, so I’ll bring you Larry Drew’s comments on why Jeff Teague got his 12th DNP-CD, particularly with a little guy like Lou Williams making hay (17 points on 5-of-8 shooting in 20 minutes).

“That wasn’t the problem,” Drew said of the defense of Williams. “I thought we did a really good job on Louis. A couple times we played him a little too soft and he just jumped right up and shot it. We actually fouled him twice at the 3-point line to send him to the free-throw line. That wasn’t the problem. We had the game under control. We just let it get away.”

I’m not sure what to say. Maybe it didn’t come out quite like the way he intended.

- Another symbol of the Hawks’ status as a rising power bit the dust, a few days after the five consecutive years with an improved record. With the loss, the Hawks will not finish at or above .500 in this brutal month, ending their string of 15 consecutive months with a record of .500 or better. (If memory serves, the stat the Hawks touted was consecutive winning months, and then they went .500 in February, so it was consecutive months of .500 ball or better, and now it’s kaput.)

- Interesting quote, in some ways, from Al Horford: “I think we played well. We just kind of ran out of gas at the end.” Perhaps it was because this was a game the Hawks might have lost even when they were playing well — against a surging team in its building on the back end of a back-t0-back – but it doesn’t sound like the Horford I’m used to hearing after losses.

- Joe Johnson was pretty downcast, more than anyone in the locker room I saw. The highlights:

“Down the stretch, I just think we don’t understand who should get the ball. Throughout the game, everyone’s free-flow playing, taking shots, making plays. … (But in the last five minutes), we don’t understand or we don’t know who that person is. If you notice the last four or five minutes, (expletive), I don’t think we know who should take the (expletive) shot.

On if it’s because plays aren’t being called: “I don’t know. It’s frustrating to me. You’ve got to go with the flow.”

More Johnson: “That’s why we look a little stagnant and lost the last three or four to five minutes, because nobody knows and everybody’s out there just jacking up shots.”

Finally: “I’m just frustrated. Like I said, we do a lot of talking but at the same time, we get out there on the court and we do nothing right, even though we know what to do.”

I’ll say this. Johnson is the one who seems most bothered by the way the team’s playing.

- A very strong game by Josh Smith – 33 points and 12 rebounds. Played closer to the basket.

“I was just trying to play off the guys that were getting plays called for them. I know they were trapping Joe heavily and I was just trying to put the onus on myself not to settle.”

- Kirk Hinrich sprained his right thumb in the second quarter. He still ended up playing 38 minutes, but he only scored three points after that. He said he’d be fine.

- Drew played seven guys – off the bench, Jamal Crawford and Zaza Pachulia were the only ones who got in. Both contributed well, I thought. Crawford had some pop in the rather free-flowing first half.

Horford said the minutes, particularly on the second night of a back to back, was a factor.

“I think it was,” he said. “I thought we were solid, but they just kind of kept bringing it. We had a good effort tonight, we just couldn’t get it done.”

230 comments Add your comment

northcyde

March 23rd, 2011
11:10 pm

Ken . . you or MC needs to find out the REAL STORY behind Drew and Teague. There has to be some sort of story behind this.

niremetal

March 23rd, 2011
11:11 pm

I’ve never been one to push the panic button at all, but heads need to roll right now. Starting with LD’s.

northcyde

March 23rd, 2011
11:15 pm

LOL @ JJ’s comments. I guess since people don’t want him taking the shots via ISO down the stretch anymore, he’s lost as well.

JJ . . stop whining man. You’re the man being paid like a franchise player. YOU TAKE THE DAMN SHOT. And make sure you make more than you miss, so that people won’t get on you.

You either take it upon yourself to be the man, or you simply fade into the background like you’ve been doing way too often. If you would just get the ball and SHOOT, instead of worrying about setting other people up, maybe you’d be more efficient in the 4th quarter.

You see Smith doesn’t worry about who says what about his shot selection. I think you might ought to take up his mentality, and play like a confident shooter, instead of a passive set-up man.

YOU demand the ball, and YOU make the play. Either for yourself, or for others.

Buddy Grizzard

March 23rd, 2011
11:18 pm

I ain’t mad… they stuck with the offense the whole game… Smoove went inside and passed up alot of open jumpers he could have taken… I can’t point to any one reason they got run out in the fourth except the shooting went cold… they just got outplayed.

northcyde

March 23rd, 2011
11:18 pm

At the end of the day, it’s going to be YOU JJ that takes the most heat for the decline of the Hawks, seeing that you have a superstar like contract. So you either have to develop a superstar’s mentality, or settle for the status quo.

That doesn’t mean jack up 25 shots a night. But it does mean having an impact on the game. 4 shots by your main guy at halftime, isn’t going to cut it.

The team did right in deferring to Smith tonight. He played very well. But you’re the supposed “man”. Either start taking on “man responsibilites” or just stop talking altogether.

dj dascorpian

March 23rd, 2011
11:20 pm

These Hawks will lose all of their remaining regular season games. They will be bounced in the first round if they even make the playoffs. Guaranteed. This may be a good thing for needed change.

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2011
11:25 pm

This loss is on Teague. He didn’t contribute anything tonight.

Nunna!!

March 23rd, 2011
11:27 pm

Northside im with u,that is the worst thing that i would want my so called”highest paid”player to say..

Its like in Rocky III when pauly was laying on the training room table talking to rocky after Mr.T. knocked him down and was having issues with his heart.
Rocky looked at his wife and said,”Adrian,what am i supposed to do” and pauly grabbed him by his robe and lit into him about how in the hell could he ask his wife a question like that and to step up and be a man and take care of business..

This just puts such a low light on JJ to me..I just hate to have read that comment..

This is your team Joe,and don’t wait for LD to tell u..

SteveW

March 23rd, 2011
11:27 pm

Buddy – It was LD’s abysmal decision to go with a 7 man rotation on the second night of a back to back played in a different city. Stupid. And Al basically said as much.

About Lou Williams and Teague

“That wasn’t the problem,” Drew said of the defense of Williams. “I thought we did a really good job on Louis. A couple times we played him a little too soft and he just jumped right up and shot it. We actually fouled him twice at the 3-point line to send him to the free-throw line. That wasn’t the problem. We had the game under control. We just let it get away.”

If somebody wanted to, they could post all of the stupid comments LD has made, make a book, and it would probably be a comedy best seller.

I’m still just stunned at the prolonged, continual stupidity in almost every facet of the game.. Everybody makes mistakes. LD lives one.

How to destroy a team 101, by LD.

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2011
11:27 pm

Its Teague’s fault he didn’t play. He hasn’t found his inner dog. To expect to play he should have scored 40 last night instead of 20.

SteveW

March 23rd, 2011
11:28 pm

Nire – Co-sign

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2011
11:29 pm

Its Teague’s fault he didn’t play. He hasn’t found his inner dog. To expect to play he should have scored 40 last night instead of 20 points.

PMC

March 23rd, 2011
11:30 pm

No worries, these guys are all simply in it for the cash anyway and they have plenty of that so they’ll be fine until they end up blowing that too. Not a winner in the lot. One and done will be here soon enough and we can go back to ignoring that they exist until they ruin another draft pick and or pay another guy max money to be the equivalent of a wet paper bag.

Kudos to Josh who showed up big tonight, wish we saw that every night.

PMC

March 23rd, 2011
11:31 pm

Joe should be depressed. His contract will make this team awful for the next 6 years.

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2011
11:32 pm

Sorry about the double post. Blackberry was acting up. Don’t want anybody to think I’ve turned into JeJe.

EmirS.

March 23rd, 2011
11:33 pm

Lol @ Rev,

Almost had me going there.

This is pathetic, once again. I also agree with northcyde that there is more behind this whole Teague/Drew thing. Drew can not be this much of a stubborn idiot.

But then again….

PMC

March 23rd, 2011
11:33 pm

Boy that Hinrich trade…. that sure has improved the defense right?

Do you think they draw straws in the marketing meetings? A professional basketball team with utterly NOTHING to market. They have NOTHING. This might as well be freaking ABA basketball.

Where the cuss is Steve Smith?

March 23rd, 2011
11:34 pm

Hawks don’t allow fans to post on their facebook wall. Good idea.

Nunna!!

March 23rd, 2011
11:34 pm

When it rains, it pours. The team bus driver, after taking the early group to the arena, forgot to come back to pick up the rest of the team. A few players ended up taking taxis.-from hawks notes by Ken Sugiura
———————————————————————
LOL..Ken,that sucker didn’t forget. He knew what he was doing,lol..
Now,that is a true fan of his basketball team right there..

SteveW

March 23rd, 2011
11:34 pm

Orlando has won 4 in a row – Sure you want to play them?

We are now 6 back of the Magic, and 2 games ahead of the Sixers in the loss column.

PMC

March 23rd, 2011
11:35 pm

Hey, maybe Teague is a Kendall Marshall fan.

Where the cuss is Steve Smith?

March 23rd, 2011
11:35 pm

dj dascorpian – This may be a good thing for needed change.

PAST TWO YEARS HAS BEEN A GOOD ENOUGH REASON FOR CHANGE.

SteveW

March 23rd, 2011
11:35 pm

EmirS – Don’t doubt it. It’s not just Teague, Wilkens also.

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2011
11:35 pm

I almost forgot… Teague had a turnover last night. No wonder Drew left him planted on the bench when Hinrich sprained his thumb.

SteveW

March 23rd, 2011
11:36 pm

PMC – Ha! You may be right.

SteveW

March 23rd, 2011
11:37 pm

Bad thing about Hinrich is he’ll play through the thumb sprain, even when he shouldn’t. He’s tough.

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2011
11:39 pm

Drew left Teague on the bench for ball-hogging last night. He scored all but a couple of the hawks points in the fourth quarter.

EmirS.

March 23rd, 2011
11:42 pm

Lol,

Rev on fire!

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2011
11:43 pm

Tonights game was a free-flowing offensive game. Teagues game is defense so he shouldn’t have gotten any playing time.

mykhalc

March 23rd, 2011
11:43 pm

so after laughin’ on the bench last nite in the blowout, Joe seems the most bothered!!!??? KA BOOM!!!

mykhalc

March 23rd, 2011
11:44 pm

well maybe that’s what Joe thinks flippin’ the switch is???!!!

K.W.

March 23rd, 2011
11:45 pm

bigdave

March 23rd, 2011
11:45 pm

“(17 points on 5-of-8 shooting in 20 minutes).”

“That wasn’t the problem,” Drew said of the defense of Williams. “I thought we did a really good job on Louis.”

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2011
11:45 pm

Drew is pulling so much for Teague to succeed that he is afraid he might get hurt if he puts him into the game.

JeJe

March 23rd, 2011
11:48 pm

“The one thing I’ll never allow to happen with this team is for us to do things that are not going to benefit the team,” he said.

LOL!

Oh he must be referring to jumpshots, since we have been a post team all year

Moron

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2011
11:48 pm

Hawks 80, Sixers 74 at the start of the 4th quarter. Kirk/Jamal/Marvin/Al/Zaza (notably, no Smoove who was ballin’ all night) allow the Sixers to go on an 11-0 run over the first 2:15 of the 4th. Lou Williams (who I believe was being guarded by Jamal) scores 5 of those points.

Smoove and Joe check back in with the Sixers up 85-80. Hawks lose by the same margin.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2011
11:49 pm

Since the Bibby trade:

3-2 when Teague plays 20+ minutes. 3-8 when he doesn’t.
4-3 when Teague starts, 2-7 when he doesn’t.
2-1 with the Teague/Kirk starting back court, 4-10 without it.

Free Jeff Teague

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2011
11:49 pm

It is obvious that Teague would have been cold and stiff after sitting on the bench all game so it would have only hurt the hawks to put him into the game when everybody else was getting drained from the second night of a back to back.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2011
11:50 pm

“Interesting quote, in some ways, from Al Horford: “I think we played well. We just kind of ran out of gas at the end.” Perhaps it was because this was a game the Hawks might have lost even when they were playing well — against a surging team in its building on the back end of a back-t0-back – but it doesn’t sound like the Horford I’m used to hearing after losses.”

In a vacuum, he’s right. A road loss to a surging playoff team is nothing to freak out over. But considering the nearly two solid months of sucking that have preceded this loss, just saying “we played well and it got away from us” doesn’t fly.

rusty

March 23rd, 2011
11:50 pm

I finally figured it out. Ld is betting on the hawks to lose,probably making a fortune,who on the blog said he was stupid

JeJe

March 23rd, 2011
11:51 pm

LOL @ these losers complaining about big minutes on the 2nd of a b2b

WE LOST BY 37 POINTS AT HOME VS. A TEAM COMING OFF A B2B

IF THEIR STARTERS HAD PLAYED THE 4TH, WE COULD’VE LOST BY 60

THIS IS A BUNCH OF LOSERS

TRADE THE CORE
FIRE LD
FIRE SUND
FIRE ASG

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2011
11:52 pm

““Down the stretch, I just think we don’t understand who should get the ball. Throughout the game, everyone’s free-flow playing, taking shots, making plays. … (But in the last five minutes), we don’t understand or we don’t know who that person is. If you notice the last four or five minutes, (expletive), I don’t think we know who should take the (expletive) shot.”

Well, typically, the guy who is getting paid the max contract would be getting the ball. Unfortunately, the guy on the Hawks who is getting paid the max contract has only had one efficient month of basketball this season.

JeJe

March 23rd, 2011
11:53 pm

i DON’T EVEN CARE IF WE LOSE ANYMORE

THIS TEAM IS SUCH A DAMN JOKE
NO ONE ON THIS TEAM WANTS TO WIN OR EVER WILL’

THIS IS A BUNCH OF LOSER ATHLETES WHO HAPPEN TO BE 6 FEET OR TALLER

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2011
11:55 pm

And as far as this is concerned:

“That wasn’t the problem,” Drew said of the defense of Williams. “I thought we did a really good job on Louis. A couple times we played him a little too soft and he just jumped right up and shot it. We actually fouled him twice at the 3-point line to send him to the free-throw line. That wasn’t the problem. We had the game under control. We just let it get away.”

Yeah, 17 points in 8 shot attempts… 5 points during the Sixers’ game changing 11-0 run at the beginning of the 4th quarter… yeah, this wasn’t a problem at all. No way the Hawks’ best point guard defender could have possibly helped.

This is the second time in as many weeks that LD has allowed an opposing point guard to go off and given a total bullsh-t explanation when asked about why he didn’t play Teague after the game.

rusty

March 23rd, 2011
11:56 pm

Nortcyde don’t you see what is happening. Last year jj said he was going to hold out said he was an elite player. He had a poor season couldnt play well because he put a lot of pressure on himself. Now he got this tremendous contract,he is pressing badly,he knows he can’t play up to it .he’s lucky he didn’t go to ny,they would have crucified him. He has always been too streaky to be a great player. He chokes.

paul

March 23rd, 2011
11:56 pm

Teague this guy does not have it, he only show when the game is over, i know the hawks hate they let the crawford guy go because he is balling in washington.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2011
11:57 pm

““I was just trying to play off the guys that were getting plays called for them. I know they were trapping Joe heavily and I was just trying to put the onus on myself not to settle.””

This he did. There was clearly an effort on his part to set up inside on several occasions where he might normally be tempted to set up outside, and he passed up a couple of open jumpers to drive the ball (side note: not all of these were necessarily the right move).

Booo!

March 23rd, 2011
11:58 pm

Poop,

Co-Sign!

Things won’t get better until Teague gets his minutes. and Injury-prone kirk is already starting to rear his ugly head.

Fire LD! I’ve been through with him! He’s just a hater at this point! It doesnt take a blind man to see what personell changes need to be made after 70 games!

“Since the Bibby trade:

3-2 when Teague plays 20+ minutes. 3-8 when he doesn’t.
4-3 when Teague starts, 2-7 when he doesn’t.
2-1 with the Teague/Kirk starting back court, 4-10 without it.

Free Jeff Teague”

^Everyone should end their posts with a “teague tracker” lol

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2011
11:58 pm

The regular season doesn’t count for much. What really counts is getting jamal his SMOY so Teague has to sit while Jamal reestablishes his game.

NorcalHawk

March 23rd, 2011
11:58 pm

I’m also in northcyde’s camp on the JJ thing. Joe may talk like he really cares about losing, but where is he when it’s crunch time? He’s not a reliable go-to guy in the 4th or any other quarter. For Joe, I think the whole season has been about failing to live up to the huge contract; it’s gotten into his head. Ditto Jamal, whose failure to approach last season’s success has to have caused his stock as a free agent to drop.