Atlanta Hawks: Bulls 114, Hawks 81

  • Perhaps it’s best to just skip those video “highlights” above.
  • The Hawks got down and stayed down. At Philips. Again. The Bulls balled and the Hawks bailed.
  • The Hawks checked out against Orlando last spring (can’t say they did the same vs. Bucks after that W in Game 6). This time it looks like they are doing it before the playoffs even start.
  • L.D. keeps preaching the same things and nothing changes. Is he still confident he can get through to this group?
  • “I am going to keep trying.” he said. “Right now I think the most important thing with our team has nothing to do with Xs and Os. It’s got to do with just our whole mental state. Coming out and playing hard and sustaining that and being able to play hard for four quarters. I am going to continue to try to preach that message. Hopefully it will get through as we wind down this regular season.”
  • That’s not exactly a stirring speech to rally the Hawks but, hey, at least it’s honest.
  • And, anyway, all the talk from the Hawks is getting old. At the expense of ticking off my blog people, who no doubt are sick and tired of hearing from the Hawks after games like this, I will share what they had to say. J.J. sounded as if he’s pretty tired of hearing it, too.
  • “We are a team that sits here in this locker room and talk about all the time ‘What we’ve got to do, what we need to do,’” he said. “And then we go out on the floor and do things that are out of our character. It makes us all look bad. Until we get that part of the game down we are going to continue to look bad. We have had countless meetings throughout the season that have meant nothing. I don’t even know what to say about it.”
  • Of course there is the possibility that what’s happening is completely in line with this group’s character. Could it be that the Hawks need a new mix of players and/or new voices?
  • “Maybe,” J.J. said. “Shaking it up a little always rejuvenates. I don’t know what we need. More so than anything come out and have each others’ backs. We haven’t been doing that, especially against upper-echelon teams. Teams that are not in the playoffs we will come out and play together and beat them. But the great teams, the top teams in the league, we come out and it seems like we don’t fight back.”
  • The Hawks now own the three worst home Ls in the league this season. “The [stuff] is starting to get embarrassing,” Smoove said. “We are too good of a team to be getting blown out in our own gym.”
  • “When you are at home you would think the sense of urgency would be there a little bit more and be jacked up and play with more energy,” Drew said. “We do the opposite for some reason. I am at a loss for words for that.”
  • Bulls fans invaded Philips but, as Drew said: “We should be used to it by now. It should be something we can totally just block it out and go play.”
  • Believe it or not the score was tied at 17-17 late in the first quarter. Then D-Rose and the Bulls put it on the Hawks and never let up.
  • “What happened the last time we were here was definitely on our minds,” Rose said. “We knew once we got that lead we couldn’t let that happen again.”
  • That was no sweat since the Hawks showed no indication that they wanted to make the Bulls work for it this time. “This team was up on us by 20 points at halftime last time we played here,” Smoove said. “We fought back, showed some resilliance. I seen the passion in our eyes and the will to win the game. Tonight it was just nonexistent.”
  • “It’s frustrating and it’s embarrassing as a competitor,” Marvin said. “I think everybody in here, including the coaching staff, is embarrassed with our effort today.”
  • “It went downhill very fast,” L.D. said. “It’s kind of a familiar sight to see–when a team makes a little run on us, our body language just changes. We have to learn how to respond in those situations. That’s just the bottom line. There is no magic pill. There is nothing to do but just roll your sleeves up and tough it a little bit more.”
  • Probably no one was going to slow D-Rose the way he was playing tonight. Teague didn’t even get a chance so I guess that means he’s officially dropped out of the rotation again.
  • Like he did at Chicago, D-Rose danced to the rim and did what he wanted without penalty.
  • “We didn’t run any coverages,” Josh said. “We didn’t help each other and when you don’t help each other it gets contagious. We was giving up too much stuff–junmp shots, dribble drives to the paint, wide open layups, and no one was giving hard fouls. We didn’t show any resistance.”
  • The Bulls are starting to look like the class of the East. They won despite injuries. They keep winning even as their schedule toughens. This is the time of the year when the real teams announce themselves and the Bulls are doing it.
  • “Give them credit,” J.J. said. “They have been the hottest team in the league and they have been showing it all year. They came in here and kicked our ass pretty much the whole game. It is what it is.”
  • It’s also the time of year when teams who once looked good are exposed as lacking what it takes. That’s the Hawks.
  • “It’s going to take action. Results,” Joe said. “We are getting nothing out of sitting in here and talking about it or talking to one another. We have got to go out there on the court and do it. It’s matter of going out there and putting forth the effort.”
  • L.D. took Zaza out of the game in the second half and the two had words. I couldn’t make out exactly what Zaza said but it looked like he wasn’t happy about whatever Drew said to him.
  • L.D. said he told Zaza he didn’t like the jump shot he attempted on the previous possession: “You don’t go on your own, you don’t start trying to do things you aren’t capable of doing. You don’t deviate from what the team is expecting. You continue to play the right way. That was either a shot where he saw he was about to come out of the game or just a bad shot.”
  • Said Zaza: “Obviously a game like that nobody feels good about it. We are not happy. These kind of things happen. We move on.”
  • Al left the game in the second half with a hamstring strain. “He was OK,” Drew said. “I think the hamstring is still bothering him a little bit. We sat him in the fourth quarter and hopefully he will be ready to go tomorrow.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

400 comments Add your comment

slimjr

March 23rd, 2011
12:16 am

wow! LD YOU HAVE LOST THIS TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!KICK ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yOUR GIRLS QUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

slimjr

March 23rd, 2011
12:17 am

QUITERS,QUITERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slimjr

March 23rd, 2011
12:17 am

QUITERS,QUITERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slimjr

March 23rd, 2011
12:18 am

FIRST????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

slimjr

March 23rd, 2011
12:18 am

THIS IS WHAT THE 1ST RD PLAYOFF WILL LOOK LIKE FOR AL AND THE GIRLS……………………..

slimjr

March 23rd, 2011
12:22 am

DRMARYB, WOULD YOU CONSIDER THIS GAME TONIGHT THE WORST LOSS OF THE SEASON?

kirkinga

March 23rd, 2011
12:23 am

From the previous blog:

I’m afraid there is no one simple answer that will instantly transform this team into the real contenders we all want them to become.

The core that once was fearsome in a weakened East is now mediocre at best. Benching Marvin and/or playing Teague isn’t going to close the talent/intangible gap that separates the Hawks from the rest of the better teams in the league.

I don’t know if it’s rebuilding time again, but I don’t have much confidence in Rick Sund being the guy to provide a revised vision and, sadly, the team has clearly digressed under Coach Drew.

Whatever the correct set of answers may be, it had better include attracting some superstar talent. It appears the so-called “Detroit model” of a championship team only worked for Detroit, so I think we can put that idea to rest.

The team has a winning record, and that is good, but this team is wrong and we all know it.

Little Fawkers

March 23rd, 2011
12:25 am

Props to Michael Cunningham for telling it like it is with these losers.

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

March 23rd, 2011
12:26 am

“energy”

lmfao

MsDee

March 23rd, 2011
12:26 am

L.D. said he told Zaza he didn’t like the jump shot he attempted on the previous possession: “You don’t go on your own, you don’t start trying to do things you aren’t capable of doing. You don’t deviate from what the team is expecting. You continue to play the right way. That was either a shot where he saw he was about to come out of the game or just a bad shot.”

?????????????????????? Zaza should have looked LD right between the eyes and asked, “Now when are you going to give that SAME IDENTICAL SPEAK to ya boy, JOSH SMITH???????????

MikeH21

March 23rd, 2011
12:27 am

I would be embarrassed to be first on anything involving this team.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2011
12:27 am

3-2 when Teague plays 20+ minutes. 3-7 when he doesn’t.

Just saying.

Teague = really the only reason I continue to watch Hawks games.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2011
12:28 am

^^Since the Bibby trade I mean.

Jonesy

March 23rd, 2011
12:28 am

Lol at taking zaza out for taking jumpers, hes only doing something that Jamal crawford has refused to do the last couple of games

jim

March 23rd, 2011
12:28 am

i am truly tired of this team..

jj…why are we paying you this money? what is the point of your existance on this team. we were at our best this year when you were hurt and marvin played the 2. and i do believe that jamal crawford has already checked out for the rest of the year so put in jordan… oh wait he is gone.

why must we always suckkkkkkk

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

March 23rd, 2011
12:28 am

lol@it has nothing to do with the Xs and Os

yeah because the plays and matchups we have out there are EXACTLY the way they need to be and we’re just having bad luck

Drew needs to quit snortin that white

MikeH21

March 23rd, 2011
12:28 am

Chicago just hit another three

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

March 23rd, 2011
12:30 am

“nothin to do with Xs and Os”…..because that motion offense has been swinging in full force lately

slimjr

March 23rd, 2011
12:30 am

ISO IS LAUGHING TONIGHT BECAUSE HE COLLECTED 200K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SUCKERS………………………..

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2011
12:30 am

Co-sign MsDee. This entire team has problems with shot selection. Al doesn’t take shots that he should take. Smoove takes shots he shouldn’t take. Joe takes five seconds to decide whether or not he should take shots and by doing so turns good shots into bad ones.

Throw the keys to Teague and let him do what he can do. This is no longer a Ferrari to which Teague will be getting the keys. It’s more like a recalled Toyota Corolla with the floor mat stuck behind the gas pedal.

mykhalc

March 23rd, 2011
12:31 am

it’s simple…THEY SUCK!!! NO LEADERS, NO HEART, NO HC!!! JJ…laughin’ on the bench!! ‘it is what it is’!!!??? WTF!!! gettin’ paid for NO EFFORT!!!! NICE!!!! stupid ass ASG, HC, and team!!! i really hope they play themselves outta the playoffs!!! KA BOOM PLEASE!!!! ASAP!!!

slimjr

March 23rd, 2011
12:31 am

Paradise Lost

March 23rd, 2011
12:32 am

@Najeh:
To answer your question from the last blog: JJ doesn’t sound high. He sounds tired. Disgusted. Resigned. He mentions more than once “we’ve had countless meetings over the season.” Go back and listen to his tone when he says they’ve had meetings that didn’t mean anything.

He says it over and over: we know what to do, we talk about what to do, but we go out there and don’t do it. The trust issues coming out big-time from him as well as the resulting personal agendas because they don’t trust each other (”we don’t have each other’s backs”). I’m going to harp on The Five Dysfunctions of a Team until LD reads that book!!!

slimjr

March 23rd, 2011
12:33 am

TRADE JOSH YESTERDAY……………………….

rusty

March 23rd, 2011
12:34 am

That is so funny telling zazza that he shouldn’t take a jumpshot early in the cloak, that he has to play the game the right way, this is comming from a guy who let’s his favorites do what ever they want & never holds them accountable for anything sorry zazza.

SteveW

March 23rd, 2011
12:34 am

Just pathetic. And ASG is still trying to save pennies by waiting to fire this guy. Every game he stay is one they don’t have to pay another coach.

At least we looked like a team when Teague started. Didn’t we win two games by a combined 34 pts last week when Teague started?

LD’s a bully. He picks on bench guys, but nary a word to his regualars or Jamal. Bibby or Mo either. Picks on guys he can hurt their playing time. What a joke.

MikeH21

March 23rd, 2011
12:35 am

This team will be sold and hopefully that will bring change. We need a new GM and a new coach to go with a new owner who wants to win and will spend to do so. Players have to go and some new ones with talent and a heart can be brought in. Oklahoma City is a perfect example of what can happen when you get the right people in place. We have some good pieces but we have no direction and no leaders.

K.W.

March 23rd, 2011
12:36 am

I’m going to still support the Hawks, BUT their just now realizing their talk is cheap. How many times have”we heard “things like this happen” and we have to move on??? Honestly I’m not expecting them to do much in the playoffs especially since their facing Orlando in the first round (maybe they will prove me wrong). I think the front office needs to finally realize that this “core” is not going anywhere and break it up.

papar bag hawk

March 23rd, 2011
12:36 am

Long time Hawks fan, feel worse now than when we were 13-69. At least then we knew we were garbage, and at least lottery picks were in the future. This is absolutely terrible, and the worst part about it: We are in essence stuck with this team “the core” as ASG and Sund like to call it. The core is hollow. Things need to be shaken up. Larry Drew needs to be fired, he is not worthy of being a head coach. Woody was canned and he won 53 games with in essence the same team. 45-37 for this bunch is what to expect. I keep reading about us vs. Orlando in the playoffs, who is to say Philadelphia won’t catch us? They are only 3 behind us in the loss column. Garbage.

SteveW

March 23rd, 2011
12:37 am

Najeh – You can quit watching then since Teague is officially out of the rotation.

tom

March 23rd, 2011
12:38 am

Not good enough to be great, not bad enough to get a top lottery pick……it’s going to take years to recover from this mess of a franchise

doc

March 23rd, 2011
12:38 am

carry over:

doc

March 23rd, 2011
12:33 am

najeh pretty candid and resolute assessment. the most articulate jj has been that i have heard. the only thing smoked was him and his band of theives.

kirkinga, the bar was set low by sund lo less to try and stay number four after the summer of no-thing. we failed that one miserably. yes, it is time to move on. sund was a disaster from day one, LD in a similar category. we all have given them and the askg enough rope to hang themselves and it is done. hangman never lies.

KABOOM!

rusty

March 23rd, 2011
12:40 am

JJ is the last one who should be talking, iso Joe who dribbles all over the place looking for his shots good or bad,showing no leadership sitting on the bench laughing his ass off. God let’s keep him & pay him 123m when he’s shooting like a scrub

Movemonout

March 23rd, 2011
12:40 am

Just move this team out of Atlanta so that all of us can actually find something rewarding to do with our lives!

All of us here are more pitiful than the team itself for constantly posting here! The Hawks players don’t blog about us, do they? No, they couldn’t care less about us. They’ll just drive to the airport in their Rolls Royces and fly away on their chartered plane. All while we sit here and lose sleep over their performance before going to our actual jobs in the morning!

Supporting this entire organization is the equivilent of taking meth.

The Hawks are NOT pitiful. All of us are.

mykhalc

March 23rd, 2011
12:40 am

the ATL TRASHERS!!!!

cp

March 23rd, 2011
12:41 am

Dont be shocked if it gets ugly against Philly too. lol@getting on Zaza about a jumper but guys consistently take bad shots game after game and nothing is said. I guess only certain guys can be held accountable.. Teague will come in against Philly once they are up 20.

MikeH21

March 23rd, 2011
12:41 am

Chicago just scored again…

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2011
12:41 am

“Najeh – You can quit watching then since Teague is officially out of the rotation.”

In nine days I probably will. The Braves look like they are going to be pretty good this year.

Grandad

March 23rd, 2011
12:42 am

This team has devolved from;
potential, to questionable, to mediocre, to quitting, to embarrassing.

And that’s just this month!

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2011
12:43 am

I expect tomorrow’s game to go exactly like the last game against Philly. The Sixers dribble drive at full speed against the unsuspecting Hawks who continue to jack up jumpers against the more active Sixers and have no answer on either end of the floor. Game over by halftime. Teague comes in halfway through the 3rd and leads the team in scoring again.

mykhalc

March 23rd, 2011
12:43 am

TRASH…for short

MikeH21

March 23rd, 2011
12:43 am

I with you Movemonout. We are all meth heads. Players have all went to sleep by now…

doc

March 23rd, 2011
12:44 am

sad to hear LD making an example of zaza, he has got to be kidding and losing the respect of all on a play like that to make someone a whipping boy when zaza has been giving a lot more than most of his starters the last few games. just a little rat play on small cheese when his whole staring line up and smoy are doing the same to cost him his job. no character in him is what i see. i asked in a blog many moons ago as he began to fracture, panic or frustration? still feel it was panic and know now it was. the ship is sinking fast.

slimjr

March 23rd, 2011
12:47 am

ABANDON SHIP ABANDON SHIP!

Grandad

March 23rd, 2011
12:48 am

Mr. Cunningham:

If possible could you try to figure out what happened
on or around Feb 8th this season.
(perhaps something internal)
That seems to be a tipping point.
It was the philly loss [blow-out] @ home.
They [the Hawks] have not been the same since that game.

mykhalc

March 23rd, 2011
12:48 am

Zaza’s got waaayyyy more BB IQ than LD…PERIOD!!!! and heart!!!

K.W.

March 23rd, 2011
12:49 am

Another thing I don’t understand is LD’s rotation especially when it comes to Jeff Teague. He gives Jeff praise all day and all night, but still doesn’t use him until we are being blown out (most of the time). I know Jeff has been inconsistent, but thinking back to the Portland game and Milwaukee how he played nice D on Andre Miller and B. Jennings. Knowing Jeff has speed I thought it would have made sense for LD to possibly start him and try to slow down D.Rose.

drmaryb (*_-)

March 23rd, 2011
12:53 am

Slimjr Baby,

I guess the bloginator didn’t like my reply to you. It was too raw and too real. I’ll try to recapture what lamented in a few minutes.

SteveW

March 23rd, 2011
12:56 am

Najeh – I’m close to. The only reason i think I still watch them now is because I think what is happening is like a bad horror movie; It’s so bad it’s funny.

And you think “surely LD won’t do this; or that etc.” and he does, and it’s just so unbelievable. Or surely Smoove won’t jack up a jumper now, and he does. etc.

Just really bad at this point. Unbelievable really. I don’t think anyone could have foretold the immensity of the meltdown, or the rapidity.

I mean if LD is back next season, I see a realistic scenario where we lose 50 in a row. I’m not joking.

SteveW

March 23rd, 2011
12:59 am

Watched JJ and LD post game.

JJ is no leader as everyone knows. And now the team is bad, and he has no answer.

LD is not coaching this team. That’s why he yells at ZaZa and won’t play Teague. The only guys left he can push around.