When the Hawks started the season hot, J.J. was the one guy who always said he wasn’t impressed because they were beating up on lesser teams.
Now that they are taking regular beat downs from better teams, does he think the Hawks still believe they can get on a roll?
“Definitely,” he said. “We know we can beat any team in the league. It’s just a matter of us bringing our ‘A’ game every night. We can’t play down to our opponents [and] when we play teams on our level or that people think are above us, we have got to take it up two more notches.”
Soon after Hinrich joined the team, he said: “Since I’ve been here we’ve talked about defending and bringing the energy. And when we do that we can be a tough team because of the talent we have and athletes and the shooters. If we can lock down on the defensive end, it will make the game a lot easier for us.”
Now the Hawks are defending better (for the most part) but things haven’t been at all easy because they struggle to score despite the talent and athleticism and shooting hasn’ that Hinrich talked about.
Does he think the Hawks still believe they can be a “tough” team like he said back then?
“I believe that way and I feel like everyone in this room does,” Hinrich said. “We’ve had some bumps, we haven’t played well at times but I think everyone believes if we put our minds to it [we can do it]. That’s kind of what we are trying to focus on these last 12 games: every game going out there and gearing up for the playoffs and play playoff basketball and hopefully be ready for the playoffs.”
J.J. and Hinrich aren’t talking about intangibles, not talent. Ken S. had a nice story the other day on the leadership void in the locker room. It was an issue last season, too, and it’s an issue again with the same mix of guys (now notably minus Bibby’s silly influence since the deadline).
But I still think it’s too simple to blame Atlanta’s struggles on intangible things like a lack of leadership. There are so many tangible, quantifiable and observable issues with this team that it’s no great mystery why they are struggling now that the competition has gotten tougher at the same time the calendar says it’s time for the real teams get serious.
For instance, do the Hawks take too many jump shots because they lack leadership? Or, is it like J.J. says, do they not work the post and drive to the basket for scores or fouls because they just aren’t built that way? Remember, the Hawks have been a jump-shooting team all season but L.D. didn’t really start harping on that until the jump shots stopped falling (and, in fact, he’s pretty much encouraged them in Smoove’s case).
Similarly, does the lack of leadership prevent the Hawks from getting back to defend in transition? Or is it just that they aren’t good at it because all those missed shots from a jump-shooting team, combined with no consistent rebounding outside of Smoove and Al, leading to easy chances on the break for their opponents?
All of this is not to say the Hawks don’t sometimes give in too easily when things get tough. But I think they give in because they realize they aren’t good enough to do what’s necessary to win when Plan A doesn’t work. The Hawks are a pretty good team. They could try harder, be tougher, show more heart or whatever and I still don’t think they can overcome their shortcomings to become a very good or great team.
But that’s somewhat speculative on my part, and I understand the frustration of fans who believe the Hawks could be much better if they had more leadership, heart, toughness, etc. And it would be a nice change of pace to see the Hawks at least try to consistently minimize their weaknesses, exploit their strengths, use all of their bona fide rotation players in roles suited for them and see what happens.
Time is running our for the Hawks to figure it out but they insist they still can do it.
“I still think there’s a belief in that,” L.D. said. “Everybody is aware we haven’t had a great March but we are still in position with 12 games left. It’s just a matter of getting on a roll. There are some teams that have struggled in the East and some still struggling. Chicago is the one team that has been the most consistent. Everyone else has had ups and downs.
“I still think it’s wide open. I really hope that our guys still believe they can get on a roll and anything can happen.”
The Hawks can start against the Bulls.
“I think we are still a confident group,” Al said. “Tonight is a big game.”
Damien has an interesting perspective on all of this. I asked him if he’s ever played on a team that struggled and then got it together in the final month and made a run. Soon after the question was out of my mouth I realized he hasn’t been on a good team since he was a rookie in Seattle.
Now he’s on a team that’s struggling but that he still thinks has a shot.
“That’s why, to me, it was never really a big panic or as big of a deal as it seemed,” he said. “Because, I’m like, everyone is panicking around here and I know we lost a couple games we should have won and didn’t play as well as we should have but at the end of the day we are still the fifth seed. So to me I am still excited.
“I think our effort against Miami, it was almost as if we packed in the season it looked like. Looking back, I can understand why the panic has set in for everybody, or it seemed like it. They know we are a better team than this. But at the end of day I am still excited because I have a chance to get in the playoffs and once you get there the seeds and the records go out the window. It’s about execution and adjustments. We will see what happens when we get there.”
Game notes
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
845 comments Add your comment
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2011
9:13 pm
The Bulls are shooting 75%.
Put Me In Coach
March 22nd, 2011
9:13 pm
National TV, say hello to the Hawks!
Naw, say goodbye
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 22nd, 2011
9:13 pm
at least Mike Woodson put on a front and made it look like he cared with emotions while the game was going on. Drew looks and acts clueless
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2011
9:13 pm
Well at least Al can provide help defense on Korver.
slimjr
March 22nd, 2011
9:14 pm
Al has given up!!!!!!!!!!!!! THROWN IN THE TOWEL…………………BBBBBBBBoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
bigdave
March 22nd, 2011
9:14 pm
Al Horford spotting up in the corner for 3.
smgdh.
foolish.
J.J.M
March 22nd, 2011
9:14 pm
ahahahahahah d rose
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
lol@bigdave
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
lol@bigdave
Bird
March 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
Why is the crowd not booing????
rusty
March 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
Play jt ,idiot jerk
Sautee
March 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
Mike gearon, Jr.,
How do like that sacred core now?
myk’s right…..Ka-Boom!!!!!!
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
they wasnt playin about that jump shooter thing
bigdave
March 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
Kirk giving him 50ft.
lol.
“i want ball pressure” L.D.
ignition
March 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
Im so disgusted….
Samuel
March 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
LD post game: “We’re just in a funk right now, we ran into a good team who were just hitting their shots”.
D Rizzle
slimjr
March 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
I hope they lose by 50!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! down 29……………………………..YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!’
THIS TEAM is TOAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WALK LD DONT RUN OUTTA HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
O'Brien
March 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
I thought the Bulls was built on defense. They scored 132 last night, and they have 72 first half points.
Bad defense by Hinrich last 2 possessions. First, he helped off Rose (leading to a Rose 3), and then with the clock winding down, he did not get up on him (leading to a Rose 3).
However, if it was Teague who made those 2 mistakes, some fans would be all over him.
Jae Evolution
March 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
THE CROWD ISNT BOOING BECAUSE ITS 75% BULLS FANS, ARE YOU GUYS SERIOUS?
Brad
March 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
“Why is the crowd not booing????”
Probably because there are more bulls fans than hawks fans at the game
JeJe
March 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
THIS TEAM HAS NO HEART
NO TECHNICAL FOULS
NO HARD FOULS
NO ACCOUNTABILITY
FIRE LD
YOU ARE THE WORST COACH I’VE EVER SEEN
Buck
March 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
Is there any news about the sale of the Hawks?
Section 212
March 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
Only down by 29 points! Let’s Go Hawks!!!
Jae Evolution
March 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
Another 40 pt loss at home, bye LD.
Nique's Revenge
March 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
BoooooooOOOOOOOOOoooOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo
mykhalc
March 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
honestly…NO ONE is surprised!!!
slimjr
March 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
A BUNCH OF SISSIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
The entire Hawks team idol is Jimmer Fredette.
Al spottin up from logo
Nique's Revenge
March 22nd, 2011
9:17 pm
FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD FIRE SUND FIRE LD
cp
March 22nd, 2011
9:17 pm
The Bulls are clowning the Hawks at this point. Hinrich is being torched out there and LD still plays Jamal at the point for some reason. Glad he made some adjustments (sarcasm). Might as well get rid of this dude after this game. The players have packed it in
Roland
March 22nd, 2011
9:17 pm
Can someone explain to me why we decided to go iso and shoot all jump shots in the second quarter, when we had some good activity from Josh and Al early on in the game? Al was 4/5 shooting the ball in the first quarter, but didn’t get a single attempt in the second quarter, can someone explain that? Rose was embarrassing Hinrich out there, yet Teague didn’t get a minute of playing time, can someone explain that to me? Drew has made a mockery of this team and he still has a job, can someone explain that to me?
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
March 22nd, 2011
9:17 pm
If we don’t battle back and make this game interesting – I’m done for the rest of the regular season – this is embarrassing and depressing. The real world is full of downers – don’t need to be subject to undue stress by a sorry coach and hard-headed players.
slimjr
March 22nd, 2011
9:17 pm
This will be a50 pt loss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ON NATIONAL TV NO LESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Rev in Tampa
March 22nd, 2011
9:17 pm
Rose is on a mission to embarass the Hawks. He is succeeding spectacularly.
kevkat
March 22nd, 2011
9:17 pm
And I’d really have more respect for the players and LD if they had nothing to say to reporters after the game even if it means a fine
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2011
9:17 pm
The funny thing is the Hawks offense hasn’t even been that bad. They are shooting 50% against the league’s best FG% defense.
Section 212
March 22nd, 2011
9:18 pm
Woodson’s teams never lost at home like LD’s teams have.
At this point, Iso Joe and Woodson look like the better choice
tremaine
March 22nd, 2011
9:18 pm
Killem C Webb.
ignition
March 22nd, 2011
9:18 pm
Honestly everyone should be fired for this display….
slimjr
March 22nd, 2011
9:18 pm
They have given up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LD second thought dont walk run outta here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2011
9:18 pm
“Can someone explain to me”
Can anyone explain anything this team does?
Not Sund
March 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
Just think how bad the score would be if L.D. hadn’t used his magical matchup spidey sense.
bigdave
March 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
Mac..
hell nawl..
evidently not. dont make no sense.
he dont want no part of the paint. even if he gets his wish to play PF thats the type player he strives to be.. ole’ Cottenelle finesse big.
meanwhile, Boozer down there killing. out there putting shoulders into chest.
Nique's Revenge
March 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
It’s not so much Bulls fans cheering for the Bulls in our house. It’s basketball fans cheering for good basketball. The Hawks can’t provide it, so…
ignition
March 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
I mean when do you decide to put someone else on Derrick Rose besides Hinrich???
slimjr
March 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
MY line WEBB just said A BEATDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
Google Realtime: Hawks Trash, Hawks Garbage, etc.
entire country absolutely in tears laughing at the Hawks in twitter updates by the second.
mykhalc
March 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
seriously…the BEST thing that could happen is that they play themselves outta the playoffs!!!
rusty
March 22nd, 2011
9:20 pm
This team plays like they don’t have a clue. Just play our scrubs in the second half. They would have to play better than our so called first string. Bench them all & someone please walk ld out of the arena
bigdave
March 22nd, 2011
9:20 pm
look @ Al just watch Rose enter the lane..