When the Hawks started the season hot, J.J. was the one guy who always said he wasn’t impressed because they were beating up on lesser teams.
Now that they are taking regular beat downs from better teams, does he think the Hawks still believe they can get on a roll?
“Definitely,” he said. “We know we can beat any team in the league. It’s just a matter of us bringing our ‘A’ game every night. We can’t play down to our opponents [and] when we play teams on our level or that people think are above us, we have got to take it up two more notches.”
Soon after Hinrich joined the team, he said: “Since I’ve been here we’ve talked about defending and bringing the energy. And when we do that we can be a tough team because of the talent we have and athletes and the shooters. If we can lock down on the defensive end, it will make the game a lot easier for us.”
Now the Hawks are defending better (for the most part) but things haven’t been at all easy because they struggle to score despite the talent and athleticism and shooting hasn’ that Hinrich talked about.
Does he think the Hawks still believe they can be a “tough” team like he said back then?
“I believe that way and I feel like everyone in this room does,” Hinrich said. “We’ve had some bumps, we haven’t played well at times but I think everyone believes if we put our minds to it [we can do it]. That’s kind of what we are trying to focus on these last 12 games: every game going out there and gearing up for the playoffs and play playoff basketball and hopefully be ready for the playoffs.”
J.J. and Hinrich aren’t talking about intangibles, not talent. Ken S. had a nice story the other day on the leadership void in the locker room. It was an issue last season, too, and it’s an issue again with the same mix of guys (now notably minus Bibby’s silly influence since the deadline).
But I still think it’s too simple to blame Atlanta’s struggles on intangible things like a lack of leadership. There are so many tangible, quantifiable and observable issues with this team that it’s no great mystery why they are struggling now that the competition has gotten tougher at the same time the calendar says it’s time for the real teams get serious.
For instance, do the Hawks take too many jump shots because they lack leadership? Or, is it like J.J. says, do they not work the post and drive to the basket for scores or fouls because they just aren’t built that way? Remember, the Hawks have been a jump-shooting team all season but L.D. didn’t really start harping on that until the jump shots stopped falling (and, in fact, he’s pretty much encouraged them in Smoove’s case).
Similarly, does the lack of leadership prevent the Hawks from getting back to defend in transition? Or is it just that they aren’t good at it because all those missed shots from a jump-shooting team, combined with no consistent rebounding outside of Smoove and Al, leading to easy chances on the break for their opponents?
All of this is not to say the Hawks don’t sometimes give in too easily when things get tough. But I think they give in because they realize they aren’t good enough to do what’s necessary to win when Plan A doesn’t work. The Hawks are a pretty good team. They could try harder, be tougher, show more heart or whatever and I still don’t think they can overcome their shortcomings to become a very good or great team.
But that’s somewhat speculative on my part, and I understand the frustration of fans who believe the Hawks could be much better if they had more leadership, heart, toughness, etc. And it would be a nice change of pace to see the Hawks at least try to consistently minimize their weaknesses, exploit their strengths, use all of their bona fide rotation players in roles suited for them and see what happens.
Time is running our for the Hawks to figure it out but they insist they still can do it.
“I still think there’s a belief in that,” L.D. said. “Everybody is aware we haven’t had a great March but we are still in position with 12 games left. It’s just a matter of getting on a roll. There are some teams that have struggled in the East and some still struggling. Chicago is the one team that has been the most consistent. Everyone else has had ups and downs.
“I still think it’s wide open. I really hope that our guys still believe they can get on a roll and anything can happen.”
The Hawks can start against the Bulls.
“I think we are still a confident group,” Al said. “Tonight is a big game.”
Damien has an interesting perspective on all of this. I asked him if he’s ever played on a team that struggled and then got it together in the final month and made a run. Soon after the question was out of my mouth I realized he hasn’t been on a good team since he was a rookie in Seattle.
Now he’s on a team that’s struggling but that he still thinks has a shot.
“That’s why, to me, it was never really a big panic or as big of a deal as it seemed,” he said. “Because, I’m like, everyone is panicking around here and I know we lost a couple games we should have won and didn’t play as well as we should have but at the end of the day we are still the fifth seed. So to me I am still excited.
“I think our effort against Miami, it was almost as if we packed in the season it looked like. Looking back, I can understand why the panic has set in for everybody, or it seemed like it. They know we are a better team than this. But at the end of day I am still excited because I have a chance to get in the playoffs and once you get there the seeds and the records go out the window. It’s about execution and adjustments. We will see what happens when we get there.”
Game notes
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
845 comments Add your comment
Put Me In Coach
March 22nd, 2011
9:05 pm
how many dunks can a team get
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2011
9:05 pm
“And I’m still waiting on JJ to have an All-Star game against a top team. When was the last time that happened?”
The 2008 playoffs
silentknight19
March 22nd, 2011
9:05 pm
Looks like LD is playing a game of where’s waldo with teague again. Didn’t he shut rose down last game? I didn’t need an excuse to drink but It’s nice to know I have one.
Put Me In Coach
March 22nd, 2011
9:05 pm
have to agree with Astro Joe, I’m guilty
Col. Angus
March 22nd, 2011
9:06 pm
Go Braves!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2011
9:06 pm
I wish at least that fan section would start booing.
slimjr
March 22nd, 2011
9:06 pm
This season is over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 22nd, 2011
9:06 pm
Larry Drew look soft
slimjr
March 22nd, 2011
9:07 pm
Al For NeNe last month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2011
9:07 pm
The Hawks play zone worse than any other playoff team I have seen.
Put Me In Coach
March 22nd, 2011
9:07 pm
THANK GOD SUND CONTRACT IS UP, BEST NEWS I’VE HEARD ALL SEASON, THANKS FOR THE NEWS CZAR
bigdave
March 22nd, 2011
9:07 pm
way to step up Al.
lol @ him just watching Rose.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
At this point the only reason I even watch the Hawks is for Teague. Any game he doesn’t play is a waste of two hours for me.
slimjr
March 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
43 at best…1st round sweep right of the PLAYOFFS???????????????PLAYOFFS????????????????????
Section 212
March 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
Wow….
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
too bad we’re not playing teams like the timberwolves and wizards everynight like in the first half of the season
Put Me In Coach
March 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
I swear if I was there I would get that place Chanting PLAY JEFF TEAGUE!!!!
Reality Bites
March 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
After our first round exit this year at the hands of the Magic, we should BLOW up this team. The ONLY cog worth keeping is Horford. We were 4th in div last yr, this yr we r 5th. Once NY gets a PG, we will be 6th. time to start over. Atl Hawks r lookin for a few good men. These guys they got AINT it.
Samuel
March 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
What I tell ya?
Roland
March 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
What is wrong with this stupid team? Al had it going in the first quarter and has hit almost every single shot he’s taken (4/5), yet he hasn’t had a single shot in the second quarter? Everything is going badly in this game, yet we can’t even milk the one thing that works? Come on, Drew. Come on, team. This is unacceptable. Please, fire Drew already.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
“THANK GOD SUND CONTRACT IS UP, BEST NEWS I’VE HEARD ALL SEASON”
That’s what I was thinking too. Let’s hope he demands a pay raise so we can be sure he’ll be gone.
kevkat
March 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
Heck, if i’m Teague I wouldn’t want to be a part of this drubbing
Publix
March 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!
The Hawks are funny!!!
What offense are we playing???? NONE!!
What defense are we playing???? NONE!!!!
JOE JOHNSON is a JOKE!!!
MARVIN is SORRY!!!
Our Coach is an IDIOT!!!!
I will NEVER watch a game again or spend another dime on tickets.
GUYS, BOYCOTT THIS MESS. WHY SHOULD WE WASTE OUR HARD EARNED MONEY ON SOMEONE WHO DOESN’T CARE.
WHO IS IN??????
Section 212
March 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
We will sputter across the finish line with 45 wins.
tremaine
March 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
(Dwayne Wade voice) GET DREW OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!
Stizz
March 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
Why even bother with this team at this point? The players don’t care, coach doesn’t care, ownership doesn’ care. Every other team in the city has gotten the memo of trying their hardest to give this city a championship. How many times haas Frank Wren come close to exceeding the salary cap with an acquisition? How many times has Thomas Dimitroff cut ties with ANYBODY and ANYTHING holding the team back, save Mike Mularkey.
What baffles me so much is that ownership seems absolutely content with mediocrity since they have risen from the Tyron Lue days. I can guarantee you that if it were the Bulls that took the eventual champs to 7 games as we did Boston a few years back, they would have won a championship by now. Now that I think of it, they were in a similar position when they played with heart against the Cavs in the playoffs and now look at them. Vast improvements have been made and are now and challenging for a championship.
I watch every home town team’s games since I am a diehard Atlantan born and raised. This team is just a flat out disgrace to the city. Lack of character in players, coaching, and ownership and this is the end result. You almost want them to bomb out the rest of the season as well as in the playoffs so we could see some type of change. This is a pain to see.
O'Brien
March 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
LD looks confused.
Whats the name of the coach in “Waterboy” who was scared out of his boots when he went up against his rival in the championship game?
Thats how LD looks…
slimjr
March 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
Al is supposed to be a rim protecter?? NOT??????
AL for NENE………………………..
Joe11
March 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
damn, this is an embarrassment…..again
Publix
March 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!
The Hawks are funny!!!
What offense are we playing???? NONE!!
What defense are we playing???? NONE!!!!
JOE JOHNSON is a JOKE!!!
MARVIN is SORRY!!!
Our Coach is an IDIOT!!!!
I will NEVER watch a game again or spend another dime on tickets.
GUYS, BOYCOTT THIS MESS. WHY SHOULD WE WASTE OUR HARD EARNED MONEY ON SOMEONE WHO DOESN’T CARE.
WHO IS IN??????
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
lol@I’m willing to bet Drew’s more concerned about what he’s gonna say in the post game press conference about the lost, more than trying to piece something together to make things work on the court tonight
J.J.M
March 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
lmao and the fact the hawks celebrated all hard when they beat the bulls
ignition
March 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
Im punching Rick Sund dead in the face…
Woody 2 is next !!!!!
Nique's Revenge
March 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
how can joe be okay with this. how can any of them? but especially mega millions ™ joe.
slimjr
March 22nd, 2011
9:11 pm
Derrick is killing the SISSIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
rusty
March 22nd, 2011
9:11 pm
LD is the biggest idiot in Atlanta,maybe the whole world. How the fk could a coach be this stubborn & this stupid
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 22nd, 2011
9:11 pm
lmao always somebody open
Put Me In Coach
March 22nd, 2011
9:11 pm
Not saying Teague is the savior but damn, he can’t do any worse than whats taking place
Bird
March 22nd, 2011
9:11 pm
National TV, say hello to the Hawks!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2011
9:11 pm
WTF is Kirk doing helping off Rose?
Nique's Revenge
March 22nd, 2011
9:11 pm
anyone at the game? please start the whole place booing
J.J.M
March 22nd, 2011
9:12 pm
lmaoooo fans cheering for rose
slimjr
March 22nd, 2011
9:12 pm
Clinic is ATLANTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Astro Joe
March 22nd, 2011
9:12 pm
The Wasington Generals, coached by Larry Drew.
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 22nd, 2011
9:12 pm
maaaane this sh t need to be like hockey……throw octopus or whatever they got on the court.
lol throw those chick fil a sandwiches on the court
J-Smoove
March 22nd, 2011
9:12 pm
Once again the Hawks play awful on national tv… this team is a joke and there is no way that I would pay money to go down to Philips and watch this team that has just watched teams like Chicago, Miami, New York, etc. make moves to get better and move past us in the East. I’m so glad the Braves start soon!!!
Nique's Revenge
March 22nd, 2011
9:12 pm
what was that??? all the hawks stood around for the offensive board finger roll??? BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA hawks suuuuuuuuuuuuuck
FIRE LD ON THE SPOT RIGHT NOW
BENCH ALL THE STARTERS NOW
JeJe
March 22nd, 2011
9:12 pm
Sad thing is Chicago played last night
FIRE LD
kevkat
March 22nd, 2011
9:12 pm
So that really was the “Hawks” I saw in the obituary
Publix
March 22nd, 2011
9:13 pm
CHANGE THE CHANNEL FOLKS. HARDCORE PAWN IS ON! A LOT MORE EXCITEMENT.