When the Hawks started the season hot, J.J. was the one guy who always said he wasn’t impressed because they were beating up on lesser teams.
Now that they are taking regular beat downs from better teams, does he think the Hawks still believe they can get on a roll?
“Definitely,” he said. “We know we can beat any team in the league. It’s just a matter of us bringing our ‘A’ game every night. We can’t play down to our opponents [and] when we play teams on our level or that people think are above us, we have got to take it up two more notches.”
Soon after Hinrich joined the team, he said: “Since I’ve been here we’ve talked about defending and bringing the energy. And when we do that we can be a tough team because of the talent we have and athletes and the shooters. If we can lock down on the defensive end, it will make the game a lot easier for us.”
Now the Hawks are defending better (for the most part) but things haven’t been at all easy because they struggle to score despite the talent and athleticism and shooting hasn’ that Hinrich talked about.
Does he think the Hawks still believe they can be a “tough” team like he said back then?
“I believe that way and I feel like everyone in this room does,” Hinrich said. “We’ve had some bumps, we haven’t played well at times but I think everyone believes if we put our minds to it [we can do it]. That’s kind of what we are trying to focus on these last 12 games: every game going out there and gearing up for the playoffs and play playoff basketball and hopefully be ready for the playoffs.”
J.J. and Hinrich aren’t talking about intangibles, not talent. Ken S. had a nice story the other day on the leadership void in the locker room. It was an issue last season, too, and it’s an issue again with the same mix of guys (now notably minus Bibby’s silly influence since the deadline).
But I still think it’s too simple to blame Atlanta’s struggles on intangible things like a lack of leadership. There are so many tangible, quantifiable and observable issues with this team that it’s no great mystery why they are struggling now that the competition has gotten tougher at the same time the calendar says it’s time for the real teams get serious.
For instance, do the Hawks take too many jump shots because they lack leadership? Or, is it like J.J. says, do they not work the post and drive to the basket for scores or fouls because they just aren’t built that way? Remember, the Hawks have been a jump-shooting team all season but L.D. didn’t really start harping on that until the jump shots stopped falling (and, in fact, he’s pretty much encouraged them in Smoove’s case).
Similarly, does the lack of leadership prevent the Hawks from getting back to defend in transition? Or is it just that they aren’t good at it because all those missed shots from a jump-shooting team, combined with no consistent rebounding outside of Smoove and Al, leading to easy chances on the break for their opponents?
All of this is not to say the Hawks don’t sometimes give in too easily when things get tough. But I think they give in because they realize they aren’t good enough to do what’s necessary to win when Plan A doesn’t work. The Hawks are a pretty good team. They could try harder, be tougher, show more heart or whatever and I still don’t think they can overcome their shortcomings to become a very good or great team.
But that’s somewhat speculative on my part, and I understand the frustration of fans who believe the Hawks could be much better if they had more leadership, heart, toughness, etc. And it would be a nice change of pace to see the Hawks at least try to consistently minimize their weaknesses, exploit their strengths, use all of their bona fide rotation players in roles suited for them and see what happens.
Time is running our for the Hawks to figure it out but they insist they still can do it.
“I still think there’s a belief in that,” L.D. said. “Everybody is aware we haven’t had a great March but we are still in position with 12 games left. It’s just a matter of getting on a roll. There are some teams that have struggled in the East and some still struggling. Chicago is the one team that has been the most consistent. Everyone else has had ups and downs.
“I still think it’s wide open. I really hope that our guys still believe they can get on a roll and anything can happen.”
The Hawks can start against the Bulls.
“I think we are still a confident group,” Al said. “Tonight is a big game.”
Damien has an interesting perspective on all of this. I asked him if he’s ever played on a team that struggled and then got it together in the final month and made a run. Soon after the question was out of my mouth I realized he hasn’t been on a good team since he was a rookie in Seattle.
Now he’s on a team that’s struggling but that he still thinks has a shot.
“That’s why, to me, it was never really a big panic or as big of a deal as it seemed,” he said. “Because, I’m like, everyone is panicking around here and I know we lost a couple games we should have won and didn’t play as well as we should have but at the end of the day we are still the fifth seed. So to me I am still excited.
“I think our effort against Miami, it was almost as if we packed in the season it looked like. Looking back, I can understand why the panic has set in for everybody, or it seemed like it. They know we are a better team than this. But at the end of day I am still excited because I have a chance to get in the playoffs and once you get there the seeds and the records go out the window. It’s about execution and adjustments. We will see what happens when we get there.”
Game notes
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
845 comments Add your comment
Loserville USA
March 22nd, 2011
10:29 pm
LEAD DOWN TO 39….HERE WE COME!
Mitch
March 22nd, 2011
10:29 pm
@yoursporthouse @10: 21
Dude the owners are part of the problem
bigdave
March 22nd, 2011
10:29 pm
this dude dont deserve minutes.
damn the opposition. “scrubs” or not, he can help. the same scrub guarding him was killing Kirk and Jamal off the dribble.
N.D.T.K.A.
March 22nd, 2011
10:29 pm
Teague making Drew look stupid!! Priceless!!!
NCBravesFan
March 22nd, 2011
10:29 pm
Back to back threes by JT0. Way to stick it to the man, kid.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 22nd, 2011
10:29 pm
http://twitter.com/#!/jose3030/status/50382232866668544
Booo!
March 22nd, 2011
10:29 pm
Fire his AZZ now! Teague is a BEAST!
MsDee
March 22nd, 2011
10:30 pm
WOW…LD MUST get fired tonight…Dang, why cant we borrow Donald Trump tonight!!
cp
March 22nd, 2011
10:30 pm
Teague making LD look like a fool
MsDee
March 22nd, 2011
10:31 pm
Teague about to get 20 pts
Booo!
March 22nd, 2011
10:32 pm
Anybody still wanna say Teague isn’t our STARTING POINT GUARD???? Huh??? Can we put it to rest already????
#Beast
tremaine
March 22nd, 2011
10:32 pm
Larry Drew with the hate face as Teague walks off the floor. LOVING IT!!!
SteveW
March 22nd, 2011
10:32 pm
According to stats, ATL has been playing like a lower level lottery team for over 20+ games now.
That’s over 20% of the season.
We are suffering historic beatdowns, on the road and at home
Time to fire LD
O'Brien
March 22nd, 2011
10:32 pm
I know its garbage time, but teague is doing his best not to lose by 40…On offense and defense.
I wonder if his biggest problem is mentally (like we dont have enough mentally weak players already).
When its a blowout, he seems more relaxed, and plays well. Is is because he is not worried about LD pulling him?
MsDee
March 22nd, 2011
10:32 pm
Damien, why was u NOT looking for the ONLY hot man on the team..Should have given Teague the ball PERIOD!!
rusty
March 22nd, 2011
10:32 pm
The assistant coaches look very nervous. They all know how bad lt is
Astro Joe
March 22nd, 2011
10:32 pm
Hawks may bust 25 points in this quarter. Wow!
Nunna!!
March 22nd, 2011
10:32 pm
Teague is doing it..
But it is garbage time
bigdave
March 22nd, 2011
10:33 pm
Jeff got 20 in a flash, and pressured the ball.. Rose included.
Stizz
March 22nd, 2011
10:33 pm
How braindead can one coach be to not play this man over marvin/kirk. Larry Drew should be in one of those meth commercials.
brigadierjerry
March 22nd, 2011
10:33 pm
Maybe Fratello can come back and coach.
One question I have for us Hawk fans . do you look to build a balanced roster first and then add additional star power… or do you start with your superstar foundation and then build a team around them… everyone has their opinion on that… but for me… it comes down to the fact that when you look at the last decade or so in terms of nba champions… there are a greater number of champions who have added star power to an already solid and balanced team… then there are teams who started with superstars and built themselves up…
Looking at the Hawks how they are currently constituted they will have to this offseason either try and acquire a star player giving up Smith or Horford or just blow up the team and have a fire sale and start over
MsDee
March 22nd, 2011
10:34 pm
O’Brien,
I do believe that to a certain extent..Teague was comfortable in Portland’s game..I just think LD expects Teague to have 26+ games every night while Jamal could do pretty much whatever he wants.
James
March 22nd, 2011
10:34 pm
Teague continues to prove what a fool Drew is. Yes, he is only playing good right now against a second unit, but that same second unit annihilated the Hawks starters earlier in this game.
tremaine
March 22nd, 2011
10:35 pm
TWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MINUTES!
SteveW
March 22nd, 2011
10:35 pm
Teague single handidly brings the game under 40, and gives the Hawks winning the 4th quarter. Keep it up Teague!
And you will still get a DNP tomorrow night if LD is still Coach. Or 3 or 4 minutes and then jerked.
Of course, unless we’re down by 40 something, which is distinct possibility.
LD Re-sign. Save your self respect man. Do it for humanity.
JeJe
March 22nd, 2011
10:35 pm
Kirk Hinrich Sucks
rusty
March 22nd, 2011
10:35 pm
LD for water boy
MsDee
March 22nd, 2011
10:36 pm
Teague should have pulled a jumper on that drive.
SteveW
March 22nd, 2011
10:36 pm
OOps, I meant LD resign – that was a baaaad typo!
MsDee
March 22nd, 2011
10:36 pm
Him jumpers are falling now..keep whats working!!
bigdave
March 22nd, 2011
10:36 pm
well coached, deep team waiting for us in Philly. tomorrow.
and they want the 5 seed.
BYNN GRYMM
March 22nd, 2011
10:36 pm
I wish this owner group, Drew, and Sund pack up the belongings and catch the first thang smokin out of Atlanta. JC2 is a beast and showing it in Washington.Hawks got egg on the face again. What a joke. Get on national TV and get that back blowed out everytime. Somebody call up the best detectives in Atlanta, there is a thief on the loose and his name is Joe Johnson. He is stealing a whole heap of money. Why in the name of Monica Kaufman is Jeff Teague only getting PT in blowouts. The “team” ( and I use that term loosely ) is a joke. Orlando is going to beat the Hawks like they stole their jock straps ( which they can’t even hold ).
MsDee
March 22nd, 2011
10:37 pm
‘His jumpers’..I meant
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 22nd, 2011
10:37 pm
Drew’s nickname should the the “Undertaker”
SteveW
March 22nd, 2011
10:37 pm
Rebounding is about effort. We are getting waxed on the boards again. No effort
jake
March 22nd, 2011
10:37 pm
Bring my boy Woody back…at least he rode their azz…this is what folks asked for
Loserville USA
March 22nd, 2011
10:38 pm
What a buzzer beater by Armstrong!
SteveW
March 22nd, 2011
10:38 pm
I look at firing LD first and foremost
tremaine
March 22nd, 2011
10:38 pm
I love the way Teague make it looks like he is conceding the basket then come and block it from behind.
bigdave
March 22nd, 2011
10:38 pm
Joe laughing in his towel..
Deng has on a mean mug.
who just lost?
SteveW
March 22nd, 2011
10:39 pm
Pulls us to within 33, only our 3rd worst home loss of the season.
We stink. Historically, we stink. Bad
Nunna!!
March 22nd, 2011
10:39 pm
Teague with 17 of the hawks 21 points in the 4th..Hilton Armstrong with the other 4…
Start Teague!!
Start Armstrong!!
rusty
March 22nd, 2011
10:39 pm
Nortcyde since we don’t have anyone else & you have no faith in jt, maybe they should make you the point guard & then you can get very close to jj
Astro Joe
March 22nd, 2011
10:39 pm
Joe equals Al and Josh in rebounding tonight. And I agree, rebounding is about individual effort.
O'Brien
March 22nd, 2011
10:39 pm
If you’re jamal, how upset are you?
This is the kind of game where Jamal could have gotten some easy points in the 4th. But Teague wasnt giving it up.
4th quarter scoring: Teague 17, rest of team 4?
Loserville USA
March 22nd, 2011
10:40 pm
Joe laughs in his towel because HE KNOWS HOW BIG HIS DAMN PAYCHECK IS?
CRIME OF THE CENTURY!
JeJe
March 22nd, 2011
10:40 pm
CHANGE THE LINEUP
JeJe
March 22nd, 2011
10:40 pm
LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27 LD USED THE “BIG” LINEUP VS. MIAMI AND WE GOT OUTREBOUNDED 50-27
SteveW
March 22nd, 2011
10:40 pm
LD is an idiot, and will still misuse Jeff and Damien – and Jamal and Hinrich for that matter. And Josh.
Unless he’s fired. Worst Coach I’ve ever seen the last 40 games or so.
Booo!
March 22nd, 2011
10:41 pm
“I wonder if his biggest problem is mentally (like we dont have enough mentally weak players already). ”
O’Brien, He’s not going to score that easily against “starters” but thats besides the point. Your Comment is an invalid assumption. He is not weak mentally. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR LARRY DREW o_o
6-1 When Jeff Teague Starts