Hawks-Pistons game thread
Greetings, all
Hope you’re well. I commend your loyalty if you’re spending a Sunday afternoon with this team (which, if you’re reading this, I presume you are).
A few notes, and on to the game.
1) Your team’s lineup: Al Horford, Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, Kirk Hinrich, Joe Johnson. Larry Drew said he went with the lineup to match up with Detroit’s size in the backcourt.
2) Drew: “We’ve got to bring a physical style to the way we play. We can’t be a soft team.” I’ll leave it to you to connect the dots. Jeff Schultz is here for a column, and I gather his column will do that for you.
3) I asked Drew Saturday about the possibility of starting blog fave Damien Wilkins. “At this point, I won’t rule out anything. I do love what he brings to the table. His competitiveness, particularly on the guy that he’s defending. He’s one of our best defenders. But he plays with a physical style and I like that and we need that early in the game.”
I’m going to guess that addressing the possibility of Wilkins starting with “I won’t rule out anything” isn’t exactly an endorsement of it becoming a reality.
4) Hopefully you read my story about the Hawks’ leaders not being the types to confront and police one another.
5) Enjoy the game.
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Rev in Tampa
March 20th, 2011
6:27 pm
Co-signing Grandad is just not doing it for me. I feel the need to vent my own frustration…
For the longest time we have had to live with the excuses that Teague must really suck in practice for him to continue to get DNP-CD’s in the games. I don’t care if Teague sits in the bleachers and sips mint juleps the entire practice. From what we have all witnessed during the recent games in which Teague started he deserves more playing time. He should start and get major minutes. It makes no sense that he did not play today.
Teague’s DNP-CD says a whole lot more about LD than it does Teague.
jgsbrids
March 20th, 2011
6:29 pm
@ignition kirk is not a scrub! in fact he’s a very solid basketball player! jordan crawford is a one-dimensional player who can score but nothing else. he would be great in a 21 league. he can’t play defense or pass–he can create and launch jumpers–man i would love to watch him play a game of 21.
basketball is a team game folks and until you and some of the hawks realize this they’ll never have much more success than they have had…if i see smoove or jj look right at open hinrich and make the more difficult pass to a lesser shooter than kirk than i’m going to puke. hit the open guy people–it’s pretty simple!
Grandad
March 20th, 2011
6:40 pm
Why would a fan want to purchase a ticket to see the Hawks?
What are you [as a fan] least likely to see;
a. Hawks blow-out opponent
b. Hawks quit and get blown out
c. Hawks narrowly escape after playing poorly -vs- bad team
d. Hawks lead for 3 qtrs yet lose to a good team after a 4th qtr meltdown
Do they play a brand of B-ball that’s exciting to watch?
editors note:
after watching the kids in the tourney [Mrch Mdnss] this week
with the enthusiasm and heart with which each team plays,
it kinda makes a Hawks game look dull.
JeJe
March 20th, 2011
6:45 pm
LD is a timid lame duck coach. he can’t offer a good explanation pertaining why Teague is not playing. he just speaks vaguely
Worse coach than Erik Spoelstra
LOL
Paradise Lost
March 20th, 2011
6:59 pm
@Grandad: Not just the enthusiasm and heart with which they play, but also knowing they don’t get paid $1-20 million/year and they have practices, classes, homework, and study hall on top of a season of games. I will always prefer college sports over pro sports for these reasons alone.
Grandad
March 20th, 2011
7:06 pm
jgsbrids
“basketball is a team game folks and until you and some of the hawks realize this they’ll never have much more success than they have had…if i see smoove or jj look right at open hinrich and make the more difficult pass…..” [to someone / anyone else] *G-dad
You have noticed that ” as well ”.
”basketball is a team game folks”
Seems as if I may have said that a time or two thousand.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 20th, 2011
7:07 pm
Regular season college basketball is awful. They play harder during March Madness because it’s one and done. NBA players play hard during the playoffs too. Anyway, just because NBA players are not flailing limbs and running around like chickens with their heads cut off doesn’t mean they are not trying hard. Players with that level of athleticism are capable of trying hard without looking like it. Andruw Jones used to catch sh-t from Braves fans early in his career for supposedly not trying hard, when in reality he was just so good that he could make difficult plays look easy.
Grandad
March 20th, 2011
7:08 pm
Paradise Lost: Right on !
dos hawkquis
March 20th, 2011
7:09 pm
Don’t fret Hawks fans. New York has lost AGAIN and scored 9pts in the first quarter. Yes, I did say 9, as in the number after 8.
“I don’t always watch basketball, but when I do, I prefer the Hawks. Stay thirsty my friends.”
Sautee
March 20th, 2011
7:27 pm
dos hawkquis,
I’m a LOT more worried about Philly than NY.
Grandad
March 20th, 2011
7:28 pm
Najeh
College kids don’t run around like chickens with a bad haircut.
Pro athletes owe the fans a good show.
Do you think you get your money’s worth from the Hawks?
I sure as heck don’t.
They have quit on this season.
Okay, it’s not the play-offs, so we should expect less effort?
Then why does ASG still charge admission for the games?
Are the players getting paid?
Do police officers, firemen, schoolteachers give a good effort each day?
They better.
Surgeons, surely?
Our soldiers, of course !
I don’t want to hear about the grind,
crap, they make a $ kajillillion $$$,
and sleep all day.
They owe the fans effort.
I enjoy basketball…HS, College & Pro;
I’m a basketball purest so I’m not comparing the two [col -vs- pro].
But heck yeah,
March Madness is mucho more fun, exciting, and scintilating
than the Hawks are currently and recently.
Bam ! G-dad
makla
March 20th, 2011
7:43 pm
Every time I look at the Wizards box score Jordan Crawford has 20 plus pts. Great trade Hawks!!!!!! What an awful organization!!
Jae Evolution
March 20th, 2011
7:51 pm
I know everyone on here, including me is mad that Teague got a DNP, but if we look at what Marvin gave us tonight, if he can consistently give us numbers like that this team becomes that much more deadly, I mean it seems like 50% of his shots are wide open anyways he just needs to hit them.
I’m glad Damien got some court time but 4 minutes LD, really? The guy was the only one, along with Teague, to show any heart a couple nights ago when we got blown out, you want to reward people that don’t deserve it and shun anyone else, please see the door.
Sautee
March 20th, 2011
7:55 pm
Wow, Derrick Williams has Amare-like quickness. Very, very quick for his size. If he could play D, he’d be a #1 pick, IMO.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 20th, 2011
8:02 pm
“Wow, Derrick Williams has Amare-like quickness. Very, very quick for his size. If he could play D, he’d be a #1 pick, IMO.”
Right now NBADraft.net has him projected to be the #1 pick regardless. This isn’t a very strong draft, but Williams looks like he could be great.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 20th, 2011
8:03 pm
“if we look at what Marvin gave us tonight, if he can consistently give us numbers like that”
We’ve all been saying this for about six years now.
Worldwide Clyde
March 20th, 2011
8:08 pm
Grandad that’s why I don’t go to the Hawks games no more. I never know if they are going to play hard or quit. With gas prices at $3.40, rising food prices, and high unemployment, why would you pay your hard earned money to see a group of millionaires give a half-assed effort on the basketball court?
The Hawks don’t care about the fans so the fans really don’t care about the team. Even Joe Johnson said he don’t really care about who shows up when the Hawks were getting whipped by Orlando last year. That’s why you have so many people in the stands cheering for the opposing team.
The Game Has Changed
March 20th, 2011
8:24 pm
Lets waith until the season ends people. Why dog the owners all the was to the subs. Judge us after the game. This generation wants everything over night. @Makla-I also wish Crawford the best. But we were just overloaded at the 2. I think he could have played point. He did last summer and he did well but life goes on. @NorcalHawk-Why are you ticked off because we beat a sub 500 team. You cant assume any games. Be thankful for the victory.
slimjr
March 20th, 2011
8:26 pm
The Hawks are just plain fundamentally unsound!! Which means they suck..In two years they will be out of the playoff picture if something drastic does not get done.. But with that huge earthquake being predicted along the New Madrid Fault line sometime in the near future on a scale like the one that hit Japan several days ago we may not have to concern ourselves with this lousy franchise much longer…..FYI, there has been a swarm of small earthquakes in Arkansas this year! Uh Oh!
“The Natural State has felt its fair share of earthquakes. In 1811-1812 a series of powerful earthquakes measuring over magnitude 7.5 rattled the residents of northeast Arkansas. Cabins collapsed, people were frightened, and the land surface was severely changed by liquefaction. These earthquakes happened in the New Madrid seismic zone (NMSZ), an active fault system that extends from Cairo, Illinois to Marked Tree, Arkansas. The earthquake zone has been active for hundreds of years. What if another series of major earthquakes were to strike this region again? Would your business or family be prepared?” WOW…………
slimjr
March 20th, 2011
8:28 pm
You could not pay me to watch the Hawks live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUSTERS!!!!! GIRLIE MEN……………………………
Sautee
March 20th, 2011
8:32 pm
Najeh,
Yeah, I guess it shows that I haven’t looked at any draft sites.
That kid is a stud, though.
Rev in Tampa
March 20th, 2011
8:48 pm
Does Pape Sy get paid any more if he steps foot on the floor in an NBA game? If not, then I would love to see him get at least a few garbage minutes in a game or two.
rusty
March 20th, 2011
8:54 pm
Does ld have a damaged brain ,what a fk idiot. Drmaryb I don’t give a crap about woody ,he’s long gone. Do you think it is a great victory to beat the lousey Detroit team. Jc2 is more efficient than our great jj. Jc1 will walk next year for nothing & this idiot is still playing him over jt. We need an uptempo game to beat anyone in the playoffs & get easy baskets. Jt is the only one who can do this.I just can’t understand how lt thinks but I am really frustrated
slimjr
March 20th, 2011
8:56 pm
up next, Chicago by 17!………………………………..
superiorblogman
March 20th, 2011
8:57 pm
I hate Drew. I hate the Hawks. This team and franchise sucks. This city sucks, a bunch of backwards still prejudice rebel flag loving white folks, or wanna be thugs, or gays. The team is so garbage that they will make anyones flaws way too obvious. People thought it was just Bibby but now look. We all notice that Al has no post game, we notice Josh is just dumb, we notice that Joe does not get to the line enough like. This team is just garbage and karma follows them. They will always be a bunch of walking shi+ stains.
rusty
March 20th, 2011
8:58 pm
Oh jc2 makes nothing compared to jj & jc2 will be a star & jj will be crap. How the hell did we let him get away for kh & also give away our first round pick next year ,how dumb was that because the idiot wil not play jt.
slimjr
March 20th, 2011
8:58 pm
AL for NeNe yesterday…………………………………………………………………..
slimjr
March 20th, 2011
9:00 pm
You know your Franchise sucks when it hasn’t beaten the Thunder in over 3 FREAKING YRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
slimjr
March 20th, 2011
9:00 pm
This team is the 9th or 10th seed out West…Just brutal man……………………….
rusty
March 20th, 2011
9:02 pm
Is jt having a relationship with LD’s son?
slimjr
March 20th, 2011
9:02 pm
Sund gave up what for the “Heimlich Maneuver????????????????????????????????
O'Brien
March 20th, 2011
9:04 pm
slimjr,
OKC was 8th last year, but this year, they are 4th in the West.
Rev,
Sy’s salary doesnt change. And I would also like to see him get some garbage minutes. However, for that to happen, he has to be active and dressed. LD seems to like him in a suit.
O'Brien
March 20th, 2011
9:04 pm
Teague still needs coaching, and he needs repitition. This was a game that LD could have found 12-15 minutes for Teague, and he could use it as a teaching tool and a confidence builder.
Instead, Teague only got garbage minutes against the Heat, did not get any minutes today, but yet if LD brings him in against D. Rose, he will expect a certain level of play from Jeff.
After the trade, LD consistently compliments Teague’s play, and his speed, and his defense etc. but once again, his words and his actions are 2 different things.
All season long, I think LD has missed out on certain teaching opportunities that would have helped Teague be further along.
Slimjr
March 20th, 2011
9:12 pm
Sorry, I did not word my last statement properly..
The Hawks would be a 9th or 10th seed if they played out West…My bad…..OKC is the real deal…….
Hawks Fan In New Oreans
March 20th, 2011
9:16 pm
Where was Teague – good win but JT0 DNPcd is boneheaded – I know its his first year and all but . . .FIRE THIS FOOL. Damien not starting has to be money driven IMO, if he starts and does well ASG would have to pony up the dough. Will Teague start against Rose – I would not bet on it.
Hawks Fan In New Oreans
March 20th, 2011
9:18 pm
Obrien – LD is not a teacher or offensive guru/philospher – he is a two-faced, two-bit, homogenized poLIEtician.
rusty
March 20th, 2011
9:23 pm
If I was jt I would tell ld to take a flying fk & tell the hawks I want to be traded.no team in the NBA will hold it against him as everyone knows he is being shafted by ld
rusty
March 20th, 2011
9:30 pm
Washington beat the nj nets today while we beat them 1 game out of 3
superiorblogman
March 20th, 2011
9:32 pm
The Hawks players have no heart. Which one of them is going to have the heart to tell LD the same thing Richard Hamilton told his coach? Which is: You are a career backup who finally got his chance to be the starter and you are blowing it, there was a reason you were a career backup and should have stayed that way” Noone will tell LD’s little ugly arse that; they will do the opposite of what men do and just ignore him instead of confronting him like a man.
W.R.Terrell
March 20th, 2011
9:35 pm
We won and that dummie “smoove” was not as “STOO-PID” as usual, he even hit a couple of lucky baskets in the last 3 minutes. ISO Joe POUNDED some but was more aggressive and as usual their defense up the middle SUCKED. All of us are happy for the win but that is fools gold.
Section 303
March 20th, 2011
9:41 pm
I admit it….I was at the game today. Said I was not going to go, but I was there.
Win is a win with this bunch. Watching Josh Smith walk up and down the floor every possession is starting to drive me insane. He does not try. I will hear no arguement against that statement. Please, tell me he will be traded this summer…or whenever the lockout ends.
Surprisingly, I have to ask…why no Teague. Coach Drew makes no sense. Is Teague a factor on this team or not?
Jae Evolution
March 20th, 2011
9:46 pm
Why don’t we run more pick & rolls with JJ and Smoove, the defense would either cheat on JJ and Smoove would roll right to the hoop for the layup/dunk or kick-out, or they would go under the pick and JJ could take a nice mid-range jumper, this should be one of our main options on offense.
drmaryb (*_-)
March 20th, 2011
9:52 pm
“Drmaryb I don’t give a crap about woody ,he’s long gone.”
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rusty, if you are really 71 years old? Then you should be able to comprehend, that was the point I was making. Please stop bringing his name up every day, all day. I’m sick of hearing it!
Rusty, do you understand the words that are coming out of my Blackberry QWERTY Keyboard? Do you? Get a translator!
superiorblogman
March 20th, 2011
9:53 pm
Jae: Because you are smarty than Drew. He is a career backup that should have stayed that way. He won the battle of the career backup coaches today. It is always a good choice to get your 2 best players on the same side of the court and since Horford and Smith both have limited post up games, running pick and rolls with Joe and Josh and Joe and Al make great since also Joe posting up with Al feeding him makes great since considering the double down or scrape down would likely come from Al’s man. Drew is a garbage coach that sit around for 20 years thinking about running his dream offense which is not good for his team when he finally got one.
Katie
March 20th, 2011
10:04 pm
you know, it wasn’t that long ago when 100% of the people on here were screaming for a trade before the deadline…… any trade…. saying that if they didn’t then it just proves Sund and the ASG just don’t care about the team. I’m not defending them, but they made a trade. I don’t understand why it’s such a problem now. I personally love the addition of Kirk, you cant compare his game play with Bibby’s and have Bibby come out on top.
as for the basketball player formally known as jc2…. we didn’t need him. they only drafted him because they thought JJ wasn’t coming back. and i would take teague over crawford any day. Of course his stats looks fantastic, he plays for the Wizards! do you think Kevin Love would have those consecutive double-doubles if he played for any team better than the Timberwolves? no way. it’s not hard to put up numbers when youre a decent player playing for a not-so-decent team. Let’s see crawford put up 20 points a game if he’s playing regular minutes for a top seeded team.
I say we continue to start kirk and bring teague off the bench for the rest of the season. hopefully by next season it’ll be the other way around. I like starting kirk and jeff in the back court but that line up is just too small to be effective for us. but in order for teague to be at his prime to start next season he does actually have to play THIS season.
go hawks!
drmaryb (*_-)
March 20th, 2011
10:05 pm
Name That Fool!
I just realized who this superiorblogman is. He is a mole on the blog. He also has his own blog on another website. Does he blog during the actual games? If not, he sounds like the last guy on the Hawks bench. Yetserday, this sad poster threatened to start his own blog, but does he have one already? I just wonderin’?
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Who am I thinking of?
I’ve read his rant before re: The Rebel Flag. That flag really bothers him, a lot. Me, not so much. I don’t the flag the power it seeks. In my world, this rebel flag does not exist.
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Please yall, Get Your Scroll On!
My Mother always told me, “When you see a fool? Leave a fool! If you carry on 5 minutes with a fool? What does that make you – Mary Ellen?”
I replied, unabashedly, and with a whimper, “A fool, Mommy.”
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Don’t Be The Fool! Don’t Play The Fool!
Katie
March 20th, 2011
10:07 pm
there is no reason jamal should be at point! either kirk or jeff need to be on the court at all times, it’s really simple.
Also, don’t we have a pick from phoenix for childress?
Rev in Tampa
March 20th, 2011
10:11 pm
“I admit it….I was at the game today. Said I was not going to go, but I was there.”
Section 303 has an unhealthy co-dependent relationship with the Hawks. I would offer counseling but I am just as addicted to this screwy team.
superiorblogman
March 20th, 2011
10:15 pm
Kirk Hinrich was a horrible move. He adds to the payroll next year by $1 million and we lose a player for next year because both Jordan and Mike were under contract. He is in the way and gives LD someone he can play instead of developing Teague. He does not make the team any better and finally you give up 2 1st round picks for him, one of which you already see is a rotation player and could have been a huge asset for the Hawks due to the fact he will be making less than $2 million last year as opposed to paying Jamal $6-8 million. The ASG, Rick Sund, and Larry Drew must go.
Rev in Tampa
March 20th, 2011
10:16 pm
dr mary,
You are only just now figuring out that superiorblogman is aka truthspitter.