Hawks-Heat game thread
Greetings, all-
Hope all are well. Ken here. A few notes, some Mike Bibby quotes and we’ll get it rolling.
1) Larry Drew said it’ll be the big lineup. Jason Collins, Al Horford, Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, Kirk Hinrich.
2) Drew didn’t say he was committed to starting Jeff Teague with the “regular” lineup. He said it was still to be determined. It sounded like Teague would be the designated starter against teams with small, quick point guards.
3) Drew said he wants the team to be more committed to running, particularly after the rather sedentary effort against Denver. Other keys: defending the 3-point line, not letting the non-Bosh/James/Wade guys go off, rebound well, force Miami to defend.
4) Drew on Horford: “We definitely have to get him more shot attempts, we’ve got to get him more touches and we’ll try to get him back on track tonight.”
5) Some Bibby quotes:
On buying out his Washington contract: “It is (a risk), but you never know if there’s going to be a lockout or not. There’s a lot of talk about that. I just felt that being here would be a better situation for me as far as giving myself another chance to even get another contract. I just felt it was a better decision for me to be here.”
On the trade: “This is a business. They felt they needed to change the point guard position and that’s what they did. Somebody’s trash is somebody else’s treasure.”
On coming off the bench: “I don’t mind that. I like to win games regardless of how things go down. I don’t worry myself with points, shots, stuff like that. I just do whatever it takes to help win the game.”
Enjoy the game…
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Worldwide Clyde
March 18th, 2011
11:05 pm
We got blown out at home with Woody coaching too.
HawkEye
March 18th, 2011
11:06 pm
Just my opinion but maybe the Hawks will play better in the playoffs. The East is alot tougher this year, so playoff seeding will probably make little difference.
The only problem with this is you need to go into the playoffs with some sort of momentum and the Hawks have been off for a couple months.
drmaryb (*_-)
March 18th, 2011
11:09 pm
“Drew is worse than Woody.”
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Does dog sh!t smell better than horse sh!t, because the pile left is smaller?
Booo!
March 18th, 2011
11:10 pm
Najeh said:
“How many games would he have won if he developed Jeff Teague?”
Co-Sign!
rusty
March 18th, 2011
11:11 pm
Nortcyde jj hasn’t earned 1m this year ,can’t you see this
Jae Evolution
March 18th, 2011
11:15 pm
Jordan Crawford took 27 shots tonight for 25 points, oh buddy.
When this kid learns how to get to the line frequently and becomes confident with his 3pt shot, look out!
Not sure how things are going to go with them next season, Nick Young is the equivalent of JC2, but those two can put up points quickly.
Samuel
March 18th, 2011
11:15 pm
All these cute analogies don’t erase the facts. We won 53 games last year and will be luck to win 43 this year. We at least made it to the second round the last 2 years. This year does anybody actually believe we have a chance to win even a first round series. We traded away 2 first round picks for a journeyman guard but yall won’t admitt we fuc_ed up. WOW!!
Samuel
March 18th, 2011
11:18 pm
And enough with the Jeff Teague madness. Do you guys actually believe he’s that good. Dude is a marginal player. Can’t you see that?
superiorblogman
March 18th, 2011
11:18 pm
Hinrich trade was so horrible Jordan Crawford with another 25 pts. Hinrich really turned this thing around, yeah right. Jordan Crawford is a good piece for the future, true.
Samuel
March 18th, 2011
11:21 pm
We traded Jamal Crawford, Mike Bibby and a 1st round pick for Kirk Hinrich. Give me a break. That’s probably will end up on the level of getting rid of Jason terry before it’s all said and done.
Samuel
March 18th, 2011
11:22 pm
Jordan crawford
Paradise Lost
March 18th, 2011
11:23 pm
@drmaryb: Billy Packer was the coach –
http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2011/03/11/billy-packer-responds-top-charles-barkley-jackass-comment/
drmaryb (*_-)
March 18th, 2011
11:23 pm
“I knew we lost this game when LD refused to put Teague in to pressure Bibby in the 2nd.”
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After watching those two go at it in practice for 1.5 years, I guess Drew had seen all those possibilities. I’m guessing.
I screamed at the TV for him to put Jeff in there, but I guess he had the volume in his head turned off.
doc
March 18th, 2011
11:23 pm
what was it? we held our own at 42 – 36 for labron midway through the third wasnt it?
ceeCee
March 18th, 2011
11:24 pm
This type of effort is just disheartening when you sacrifice and go to a bar or make sure u are at home to watch the team u luv give a piss poor performance, CONSISTENTLY!!. There is no use of rehashing the same points over and over, SO……………
As fans, we have the loudest voice, yet we are to passive as well to get things to change. Drastic times calls for drastic measures. I say we show up with bags on our heads, Anti-Larry Drew signs, Boo JJ everytime he touches the ball(he will demand a trade outta here!!!!!!!!!!!) Good Riddance, and whatever else that can be done that wont get u arrested or kicked out of the arena. WE MUST SHOW THAT WE CARE ENOUGH TO COME TO THE GAMES BUT DEMAND A BETTER PRODUCT!
Hawks Fan for Life….Atlanta fan for Life
mykhalc
March 18th, 2011
11:26 pm
stupidity and ineptness run amok in this franchise!!! internal combustion is the only remedy!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 18th, 2011
11:26 pm
“I say we show up with bags on our heads, Anti-Larry Drew signs, Boo JJ everytime he touches the ball”
Showing up only makes the DASG feel like they are doing something right. The appropriate response is to stay home. Let’s get the Hawks down to dead last in attendance.
Paradise Lost
March 18th, 2011
11:27 pm
Al wants us to hang in there…
Al_Horford Al Horford
Tough loss for us tonight. I know it’s hard fans, but stay with it. We have to get off this slump and get it right! Go Hawks
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HawkEye
March 18th, 2011
11:27 pm
LOL. Funny video on Mr. $120 Million Man. Thanks youtube. Sometimes you have to laugh to subdue the pain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqEMxVuL9kk
Najeh Davenpoop
March 18th, 2011
11:28 pm
I’d love to see Kenneth Faried in a Hawks uniform. Too bad the Hawks traded away their pick.
superiorblogman
March 18th, 2011
11:33 pm
The Hawks are 5-8 since trading Bibby for Hinrich. They were 34-22 before trading Bibby for Hinrich. Meaning the Hawks have won 38% of there games with Kirk Hinrich and they won 60% of there games before him. Those are facts. The facts say that the team is worse without Kirk if you look at winning percentages. I know people will say we have had a tough schedule but that is an excuse. If you say we have had a tough schedule and let Hinrich off the hook for being a lateral move at best (I think he is a backwards move) that basically means you can’t tell rather he is a good move until next year because the schedule was going to be tough from the all-star break until the end of the season including playoffs. That was a horrible move Jordan Crawford has been bigger for Washington that Mr. Lateral Move has been for the Hawks. I hope we can trade his contract this summer because he is the last thing the Hawks need, another overpaid player on a team who is not willing to spend money anyway.
drmaryb (*_-)
March 18th, 2011
11:33 pm
Paradise Found!
Paradise Lost and Found it! Ha Ha! Thank You baby, Billy Packer, yeah. I have no clue how to find links. I am a simple woman.
Yeah, man! I wish Charles Barkley could coach our Hawks! He would prolly throw Josh through a plate glass window down at The Velvet Room though. “Charles don’t give a damn … Go on, throw it up!”
He’ll prolly be drinking in the locker room and trying to get blowed by a team dancer, while the players take craps in the johns.
I would love to hear his half-time speech! LOL!
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Hey Paradise, what ever happened to having HOF’ers address the team before games, to motivate the guys before some big games? Does any coach do that in the NBA? The NFL does it all the time. Does the owners ever do it here, or Sund do it here? If they need a new voice? Go get one! Ask Arthur Blank to do it, he was here for that Denver Debacle.
ASKG, can yall afford a full page ad to apologize to the fans?
Yall, orangutans can go F yourselves tonight!
O'Brien
March 18th, 2011
11:37 pm
Najeh, northcyde,
How many games would Woody have won last year if he had to deal with the injuries LD has dealt with?
This year, Al, Josh, Marvin, Mo, Jamal and JJ have all missed time. Last year, we were probably the healthiest team in the NBA.
O'Brien
March 18th, 2011
11:39 pm
Samuel,
Rick Sund was the only one who thought the problem was all Woody. Most fans wanted Woody replaced, but we also wanted a trade to change the culture on the team.
These players tuned Woody out last year, so its not all Woody’s fault. And these same players have tuned LD out already (imo).
drmaryb (*_-)
March 18th, 2011
11:41 pm
Yall gone think I invented sex!
If I suited and booted for the Hawks?
Yall boys would think I was Naismith and I invented Spalding!
Ida been going in the paint like a Tiger Woods putt.
Worldwide Clyde
March 18th, 2011
11:43 pm
Fire Joe
Fire Drew
Fire Sund
Fire the Spirit Group
That Jordan Crawford trade might become the worst in Hawks’ history. Up there with the Nique trade.
lewis
March 18th, 2011
11:43 pm
inferiorblogman,
you don’t think things through sometime. every contender and their mother wants guys like Hinrich, high bbal IQ defensive leaders with playoff experience. Bibby was pretty much immovable and playing god awful for the Hawks. So, if you didn’t want the trade, you must have wanted 33 year old Mike Bibby hobbling down the court forcing the other 4 guys to play twice as hard on D for another year? How do you ever enforce a culture of holding people accountable on defense when you start Bibby for political reasons? Trying to get PT from LD and Woody is like trying to get PT on the varsity team when you’re younger and better than the starting PG but he’s the coaches son.
Bibby starting = coaches son politics, anyone who played organized sports as a kid knows it
No one on the Hawks really seems to know how to play basketball and they are immune to learning how to adjust. LD also doesn’t know how to play Hinrich at PG. He loves stupid gimmick offenses and stupid gimmicky offensive players like Jamal. If you watch college basketball you know that players like Jordan and Jamal Crawford come into the NBA every year. Get over him already he’s not the second coming of D Wade.
I’m in Miami right now, drove by a billboard that said Hawks vs Heat at 7:30 tonight. It is getting really hard to continue rooting for such mediocrity. We have a couple of good players that are fun to watch but JJ’s contract, instead of just being a bad contract, has really locked this team in as a 6-8 seed.
Worldwide Clyde
March 18th, 2011
11:45 pm
wtf did you just say drmaryb? Are you drunk posting again? Its just a basketball game you don’t have to drink to ease your pain.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 18th, 2011
11:45 pm
“How many games would Woody have won last year if he had to deal with the injuries LD has dealt with?”
Good point. And on the flip side, the Celtics missed a lot of games due to injury last year, which contributed to the Hawks sweeping the Celtics 4-0 and getting the 3 seed over them in the first place.
Big Ump
March 18th, 2011
11:48 pm
Northcyde
Some people can’t and won’t admit that Woody were a better coach. They were so high on LD when he was hired that he would take the Hawks to another level. That part they were right he took them a level below.
drmaryb (*_-)
March 18th, 2011
11:48 pm
I Got a Thonk!
Aye fellas, I got a biscuit and I can shake it like a damp salt shaker on the patio after it rained. Can the Hawks do that? I didn’t think so.
O'Brien
March 18th, 2011
11:50 pm
From the new hawks article;
“Among coach Larry Drew’s objectives for the team were to rebound well, move the ball on offense to make Miami work and to score points in transition.
The Hawks were outrebounded 50-27, repeatedly tossed up jump shots early in the shot clock and showed little urgency to run after Miami misses or turnovers.” Ken Sugiura.
What is this? Opposite day?
drmaryb (*_-)
March 18th, 2011
11:52 pm
Ima make like a baby and head on out to The Velvet Room now.
If I see Josh and Bibby, what do yall want me to tell ‘em?
Any message from the fan bloggers?
Big Ump
March 18th, 2011
11:53 pm
drnaryb
Sweetheart how are you doing tonight?
lewis
March 18th, 2011
11:54 pm
LD is a bad coach. So was Woody. Woody was a better motivator and disciplinarian. I forget which player, a guy i hold in high regard, stated that the purpose of the coach was simply to make sure his team was motivated and into the game emotionally, that the players really need a coach amongst them for things to actually get done on the court.
1000’s of you have stated this, but i’ll say it again, Spirit group ruined the dynamic of this team when it gave a leader who don’t lead or sell tickets the most money. our team is merely an extension of its best player….
Paradise Lost
March 19th, 2011
12:02 am
LOL @drmaryb! IDK about HOF’rs for pregame motivation…maybe they need a pole installed in the locker room? Put a beaded thong on Lester or VanEx and play some Weezy while they spin and speak???
W.R.Terrell
March 19th, 2011
12:02 am
Well another game of “DUMBALL, the “SOFT’S” are just a sad and bad team and LD is no coach, will never be a coach and he cannot even imitate a coach. I’ll watch the rest of the season and if we luck up and get into the playoffs I will torture myself with that also. That’s how it is with fans, but, in the offseason lockout or not, they must get rid of that “smoove” person. He is jus to STOO-PID”, to ever learn the game of basketball. I’ve watched Jamal the past 2 years now and I was a big fan but now I understand why he has been on a few teams. I would not resign him, I would rather have a strong defensive player like Damien Wilkins. We have to keep ISO Joe, there’s not another team that idiotic to pay him that kind of money but that “smoove” person an Jamal is 22 mill we could use. Marvin would have to go to the weight room and a strong routine over the summer if he wants to play. Hilton Armstrong may get a chance with a real coach and Jeff teague also. Zsa Zsa is another big we keep and Al is solid, just needs the weight room. It’s time to purge and smoove should be the first to go.
JeJe
March 19th, 2011
12:02 am
LOL every game it’s the same ish:
Staying on perimeter and settling for jumpshots.
Outrebounded 50-27 on glass by a team with no big while we used our “big lineup?”
What a joke
Atlanta/Georgia sports will always be a joke.
Falcons are aight
NUNNA!!!
March 19th, 2011
12:09 am
Yea miss mary,
Tell Bibby that Nunna thought he shoulda been gone a long time ago..
Tell Josh that he needs to leave the 3 pointers and jump shots alone and i don’t care if he is having a great nite doing it either.
Also,ask Josh if he really listens to LD?
Also:
Who is the most vocal in the locker room?
Do any of the players pay attention to Drew?
Why he almost never gives the ball to the PG after he rebounds?
Whats the real deal with how the team feels about Teague?
Whats the real deal with how the team feels about LD?
Why have they went away from ball movement and more back into jump shooters gone wild?
Why does Jamaal have to bring the ball up when Teague is in the game(is it a coach’s decision)?
If he is tired of LD’s comments about their play (when we see on tv how when they make mistakes he
tells Coach Conner) instead of standing up and barking out corrections they should implement right then.
And last 2…
Which of his mates has confided in him that they don’t won’t to return here next year and is he one of them?
And,if he thinks LD will be back next year??
Get him drunk 1st,then i bet he’ll talk..
Take care drmaryb (*_-) and be careful out there tonite..
Nunna!
rusty
March 19th, 2011
12:12 am
The only think that ld talked about was how great lebron played. Those idiots doing the interview never asked him any questions that meant anything. He has this team really fk up
JeJe
March 19th, 2011
12:15 am
This team stinks
rusty
March 19th, 2011
12:28 am
Got to laugh at all the hawk tv guys keep talking about the highlight factory after tonights performance, more like the lowlife factory. You would have to pay me to go see these idiots
drmaryb (*_-)
March 19th, 2011
12:42 am
Paradise Lost!
Stripper pole in the locker room! LMBAO … ROF … SMH.
F u n n y! You Got Jokes?
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Nunna! Roger That! I let you know what they said. LOL! I hope the DJ play some old skool Michael Jackson!
“Wanna Be Startin’ Something”
“Let’s Dance, Let’s Shout, Shake your Booty Down to the Ground”
“Human Nature” Why? Why? ..tell ‘em that it’s human nature
“Do You Remember The Time”
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The Limo is here! Gotta’ go! Love Yall!
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Hey Big Ump, I’m good. I don’t get upset anymore, it’s all fun and games to me now. All I got now is jokes! LOL!
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Let’s pray for a real problem, pray for Japan.
Section 303
March 19th, 2011
12:46 am
O’Brien, don’t try to defend this team. They are awful and do not deserve your energy.
And, can we please (and I mean PLEASE) stop with the “it would be better if Teague played more bullsh#t..” C’mon, guys! You can’t be serious with that take. Tell me you’re only kidding!
Hawks do not even compete anymore. They are what happens when awful and terrible have a one night stand. 9-months later, the 2010-2011 Hawks come out.
I hate this team. Find the red button, hit it, and blow this team up. I would rather win 13-games a year than watch these a$$holes play another game.
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 19th, 2011
12:49 am
Bulldogs choke vs. Washington smh
Paradise Lost
March 19th, 2011
12:58 am
@NUNNA: I want that interview posted on YouTube!!
@drmaryb: I got a couple jokes…it’s the only way to get through the rough stuff! Be careful out there, that ATL nightlife is intense (at least it was 20 years ago!).
Co-sign on prayers for Japan and the Pacific. Lots of property damage here in Paradise but grateful no lives were lost.
drmaryb (*_-)
March 19th, 2011
1:10 am
Worldwide Clyde!
Naw man, I’m sober, raw and real! I gave up drinking when the Hawks gave up winning. Literally, I haven’t had a beer in 3-4 weeks. I lost 8lbs already, I don’t want to get too skinny though. I would like to keep my biscuit.
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BTW, I love your new name. You like Prince? The International Lover now?
drmaryb (*_-)
March 19th, 2011
1:26 am
Well Wishes!
Thanks Nunna, Big Ump and Paradise Lost!
I’m in the Limo now, just pulled up. The line is long, but I walk to the front and tell the doorman I’m VIP with a $100 handshake, and like a Booster @ Ohio State? I’m in! I got swagg, fellas!
Thanks for telling me to be careful. I buy my own drinks, sealed beer bottles and water bottles only. I never drink from glass ware, never accept a free drink, never sit my drink down and turn away.
I Got Rules!
Drink responsibly and never talk to “awful” and “terrible” …
Like Section 303 said, “9 months later, the Hawks might come out.”
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LOL! OK I’m In, Good Nite! Party! Woot – Woot
drmaryb (*_-)
March 19th, 2011
1:32 am
Paradise, one more thing, You in Hawaii?
I asked, because you said, “a lot of damage, but no lives were lost?”
Grandad
March 19th, 2011
1:36 am
Haven’t been on board, watchin’ the Dawgs.
Hawks in ‘10 waited ’til the playoffs to quit.
‘11 Hawks quit by my recollection…..on Feb 8 this season.
*[ the Philadelphia game home]
After new year:
the Hawks began 12 and 4 / prior to Feb 8th
since, the Hawks are 12 and 6.
*[8 losses by doule digits or blow-outs]
*[4 of their 6 wins were 3 pts or less / or OT]
The Hawks are too small.
They can’t or won’t rebound.
They need A true Big, nay two true Bigs.
*[everyone knows that,,,,,Now,,,,,I hope]
They need ”men” who will rebound regardless of position!
Team Jump Shot is the most apt yet funniest moniker ever…ever !
Tonight I watced Josh (and others) look at open cutters,
disregard and then launch.
This is a team of quitters.
Most must go…sooner than later.
When all is said and done,
All has been said and done.
The Dawgs fought until the final buzzer, bless ‘em.