Nuggets 102, Hawks 87

Greetings, all-

Perhaps the craziest thing about this game is that the Hawks were up 12 at one point. It’s almost unbelievable given the way the second half played out. Which, as you know, probably even better than me, is how a lot of second halves seem to play out.

Al Horford: “We’ve just got to share the ball. I think at times we do it, at times we don’t.”

Jamal Crawford: “I think we have to learn to handle adversity. I think that’s our final step in becoming a great team. … We have to learn to take a team’s best shot and bounce back and withstand whatever run they have and come back and win.”

Josh Smith: “Sometimes we fight back, sometimes we lay down. I think it’s too late in the year to be inconsistent. We’ve got to know what we’re going to get from each other. We’ve got to play hard every night.”

- Team Jump Shot collapsed against Denver, which kind of plays like you’d hope the Hawks would play – moving the ball, transition game, putting pressure on opponents defensively, several players who can score (maybe this is where the Hawks are not so much like the Nuggets).

The Hawks didn’t make jumpers and failed to re-direct their focus on getting better shots. This might explain it. The Hawks took 19 shots in the paint before halftime. They were down four points and Larry Drew felt they were fortunate to do so.

“It’s plain and simple, which I told them at halftime,” Drew said. “We can’t come down and take a bunch of long shots. We have to establish an inside game.”

With that message ringing in their ears, the Hawks took 21 shots in the third quarter. Two of them were closer than 10 feet. It bears mention that they actually shot really well in this quarter – nine for 18, including three of seven from 3-point range.

It’s kind of the trap with this team. Periods or games like that serve to reinforce the notion that they can thrive as an outside-in team.

- Smith missed seven of his first eight and was pulled. I don’t know that I’ve seen that happen this season that quickly.

Drew: “Their game plan, obviously, was to give us the perimeter shot, but we have to establish ourselves more in the low post.”

I asked Smith if he was surprised when Drew took him out in the first quarter. He said no.

“When somebody comes and gets me (to take him out of the game), as a teammate, I just sit down and understand what I’m doing wrong and try to correct it when I get back in the game.”

Smith’s shot selection (4-for-16) was the most obvious thing about his game. I think it should be pointed out that he also got to the line more than any of his teammates, had nine rebounds and three blocks. And I think his knee is limiting him. All that to say, he is more than his shot selection, but his shot selection certainly is a considerable part of his game.

- Zaza Pachulia continued to earn extended minutes. He got 33 minutes and finished with 19 points and 10 rebounds, both team highs. It’s the first time he has led the team in scoring all season.

“Zaza played a [heck] of game,” Smith said.

- The team made little effort to push the ball. The Hawks had 21 fast-break points against Milwaukee and 13 against Denver. In the Lakers game, the last one I covered, it seemed like the team was intentional about pushing the pace – running hard up the court – with every miss or turnover. I saw little of that effort against Denver.

Offensively, the ball just didn’t move well. When it did, getting out of double teams into rotations, the shots missed.

“We became pretty easy to defend,” Drew said.

Horford: “I think that when we play the right way, like yesterday, everything was great. Today, we get away from things we’re successful with and we struggle.”

- Defensively the Hawks gave the game away in the fourth. Shortly after getting to within three points, the Hawks allowed Denver to score on 11 of 12 possessions, a lot of them on secondary-break situations. A lot of open looks on 3-pointers. Drew called it “poor.” I imagine you all might have other words, but poor is a good start.

- Three players scored in double figures off the bench – Pachulia (19 – he was a ridiculous eight for nine), Crawford (6-for-13 for 13) and Marvin Williams (four for 10 for 10). Hawks only used nine players – Hilton Armstrong, Jason Collins and Josh Powell all received DNP-CD’s.

Regardless of how the Hawks played, the Nuggets are quite a team. They’ve got scoring options all over the floor and are on a remarkable hot streak.

“This is a team that’s playing rejuvenated,” Smith said. “You really don’t know where the offense is coming from because they have eight guys scoring in double figures and they look like they’re in sync right now and they’re definitely playing defense and helping each other out.”

Asked what would happen if the Hawks played like the Nuggets, Horford replied, “then I feel like we would be a better team and we would be playing like that.”

Miami comes to town Friday. I suppose if you are a glass half-full sort of person, then perhaps you think the best thing about the Hawks’ inconsistency is that they can win after stinking up the joint. The Hawks have beaten Orlando (twice), Chicago, New York and Portland after losses.

259 comments Add your comment

northcyde

March 17th, 2011
1:16 am

HAHA @ “Team Jump Shot”

Great line Ken S.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 17th, 2011
1:22 am

“Denver, which kind of plays like you’d hope the Hawks would play – moving the ball, transition game, putting pressure on opponents defensively, several players who can score”

Real talk.

In fact, forget the entire team playing like the Nuggets; if even a couple of Hawks played like their Nuggets counterparts, this team would be so much better.

I stopped commenting on the previous blog at halftime thanks to my screen name getting stolen, but I spent the entire second half watching Lawson and Felton driving hard off their screens with a full head of steam and Nene making strong, decisive moves in the paint. All I could think the entire time is if the Hawks used Teague (and to a lesser extent Kirk) the same way as Lawson (screen for him and get him to go hard into the paint off the screen) and Al played with the same mentality as Nene offensively, this team would be so good that they could probably win despite Smoove having a horrible offensive game like he did in this one.

northcyde

March 17th, 2011
1:23 am

“It’s kind of the trap with this team. Periods or games like that serve to reinforce the notion that they can thrive as an outside-in team.”

Damn right it’s a trap. And everybody in the arena and at home can see it. If Josh makes a few early shots, expect a lot of them to go up. If JJ hits a 3, he’ll start jacking too. Same with Jamal.

The team just settles for the easy way out too much. Sometimes, you just have to take the action to people and draw fouls. But on “Team Jump Shot”, everybody loves the 20 footer . . from the center down to the PGs.

We survived Josh’s cold streak, then JJ went on his. Horford didn’t touch the ball, nor try to grab offensive boards. And we didn’t well defend at all in the 2nd half.

Another bad home loss for a team looking for some respect, and an identity.

LOL . . everytime fans want to get back on the bandwagon, they jump off again when the Hawks play sorry.

Philips will be rocking on Friday night. Let’s see if the team will rise up . . or lay down.

RaJaH

March 17th, 2011
1:23 am

While watching the Warriors/Mavs game, I thought I heard Mark Jackson say that the Warriors wanted to trade Ellis for Law.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 17th, 2011
1:27 am

I realize LD’s a rookie coach and is going to make rookie mistakes, just like a rookie player would. But when he refuses to learn from his rookie mistakes, that is when he becomes infuriating. It hasn’t even been a week since the Hawks lost to the Bulls due in large part to LD playing Jamal at point guard against a quick opponent who seized on the opportunity to take over the game. So what does LD do? He benches his defensively solid back court and rolls with Jamal at the point for the majority of the second half, and predictably Lawson and Felton got whatever they wanted.

LD’s substitution patterns are just plain insane.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 17th, 2011
1:29 am

Also, I get called out occasionally on this blog for defending Smoove, so for those of you who do so here you go. I’m not going to waste my time defending him on a night when he was horrible offensively and didn’t make the necessary adjustment to his game when he noticed his shot wasn’t falling until it was too late. He did a nice job crashing the boards but his foul trouble prevented him from doing much defensively (especially in the second half when he provided zero resistance) and he didn’t start going inside until it was too late to make a difference. He’s going to get the lion’s share of the blame since his mistakes always look worse than everyone else’s mistakes, but whatever. Tonight, he deserves it.

Jae Evolution

March 17th, 2011
1:29 am

If Al Horford, and Josh Smith switched mind sets we’d have a frontcourt that could go toe to toe with the best of em.

Booo!

March 17th, 2011
1:30 am

Booo!

March 17th, 2011
1:31 am

“He benches his defensively solid back court and rolls with Jamal at the point for the majority of the second half, and predictably Lawson and Felton got whatever they wanted.”

I cant even waste my time on LD right now. Dumbest move of the night! Smh…

K.W.

March 17th, 2011
1:33 am

Here They Go Again…

rusty

March 17th, 2011
1:34 am

LD as usual never took any blame. I wished someone would call him out at not having jt or kh in at the 4 th quarter. JJ ruins any team play pounding the ball & forcing the ball. The difference between us this game was our lousy coach

superiorblogman

March 17th, 2011
1:34 am

Fire LD trade Josh Smith problem solved.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 17th, 2011
1:35 am

With that said, there’s plenty of blame to spread around.

Broadway Joe from the Bucks game returned to being Average Joe, and it is the same damn story with him. Dude killed at least three or four possessions where he could have made a decisive move or taken an open shot by holding the ball and allowing the defense to reset. He makes it so much harder on himself when he insists on grinding the ball movement to a halt as he sloooooooowly tries to decide what to do.

Same usual story with Al Horford. Yeah, the Hawks should feed him more, but he needs to quit passing up opportunities to score too. It’s admirable to want to be a team player and make the extra pass, but at some point, he needs to understand his teammates and adjust his game accordingly. The most efficient offensive player on the team shouldn’t pass the ball when he gets the ball in an area conducive to him scoring. Be like Nene. Get that ball and either make a strong move or use that top-10 mid range jump shot.

Teague has played outstanding D in every game since the Bibby trade except the two games against the Nuggets. Tonight, like the game at Denver, he was only OK defensively, and for the most part he didn’t play very well offensively. He’s gotta start learning how to finish more aggressively at the rim and draw some fouls.

Same usual story with Jamal. Stretches of great offense negated by sustained bad defense.

Nice games from Kirk (when he was allowed to play) and Zaza (despite not being able to contest anything at the rim as usual, he still played a solid game). Another solid bench performance from Marvin.

Jae Evolution

March 17th, 2011
1:35 am

When everyone was on their ‘We Want Woody’ chant in the last blog, it reminded me of the highlights I had watched prior to this game of Game 6 of the Hawks vs. Heat in 09′, don’t know why I was watching this? The Heat came out swinging and the Hawks fell down early in the 1st qtr. Woody called a timeout and chewed Josh out making Smoove looking like he wanted to cry. This is what I wish someone would do to the kid, get his mind right, how can LD let him keep shooting when his only 4 makes were from 10 ft or closer?

Najeh Davenpoop

March 17th, 2011
1:39 am

Also, I wouldn’t use this game as a referendum on this lineup. It’s entirely possible the Nuggets are just a bad matchup for this team and this lineup will work better against other teams. I am still a little wary of Joe having to guard LeBron for the majority of the game, but I’d give it at least another week and a half or so before making a judgment.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 17th, 2011
1:41 am

““When somebody comes and gets me (to take him out of the game), as a teammate, I just sit down and understand what I’m doing wrong and try to correct it when I get back in the game.””

Much like LD, at least he’s saying the right thing. But much like LD, his actions (at least in this game) belied his words.

superiorblogman

March 17th, 2011
1:41 am

Teague played good D again tonight. He was not on the floor when the team lost the game in the 4th by letting Felton run the same play every time. Finally, that’s what PG’s do, they fine something that is working and milk it without the coach telling them to. Jamal has never done that, Bibby has never done that and Teague is not being given a sufficient chance to do it. These team is not going to cause me to lose sleep. New GM, Owners, and coach all needed. Then move to the players.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 17th, 2011
1:44 am

“If Al Horford, and Josh Smith switched mind sets we’d have a frontcourt that could go toe to toe with the best of em.”

Co-sign.

rusty

March 17th, 2011
1:45 am

Nortcyde there is a reason why I leave out the h .you treat jj as he was a great player ,woody & Ld
as if they were great ,treat jc2 & jt as if they were scrubs & bore the hell out of me with your meaniless stats while not seeing the obvious

Najeh Davenpoop

March 17th, 2011
1:52 am

Finally, I will never understand why our supposed offensive genius of a head coach won’t run more pick and rolls with the personnel he has now. One super quick point guard, enough shooters on the wings to spread the floor, and two athletic front court players who can both pass and finish. Seems like the ideal personnel with whom to run pick and rolls all day long, and seems like a pretty surefire way to get Smoove and Al in the paint more often.

SteveW

March 17th, 2011
1:53 am

Props for LD, he didn’t play Josh Powell. That’s one of the few things LD has gotten right on rotations this season.

Jamal at point and presto! We get blown out.

Jeff Teague 0 turnovers. And the last time Ty wasn’t in double figures scoring was also against ATL, Feb. 28. Felton wasn’t either. Teague/Hinrich play Ty/Felton about as well as anyone lately.

Buddy Grizzard

March 17th, 2011
1:55 am

MC, in his “Teague’s Time” blog post, made mention of theories by the blog peeps that LD played Bibby because he was worried about his job security. He made a good point about LD’s predecessor’s failure to utilize Teague, and that being a contributing factor in his downfall.

So I’d like to present you with a new theory. This shall be hereafter entitled, “Teaching how to quit: How Larry Drew’s entitlement issues affect his player rotations.”

I believe that the incident of Larry Drew II quitting on North Carolina in the midst of contending for an ACC championship sheds a lot of illumination on not just Larry Drew II’s character, but the character of his biggest influence, Larry Drew, Sr.

Roy Williams told reporters that when LD Sr. called to inform him his son was leaving North Carolina, he was told the decision was final and there was nothing further to discuss. Some on this blog have questioned my contention that LD Sr. advised his son to leave North Carolina. If LD Sr. wasn’t telling his son to leave, wouldn’t he at least have told his son to try working things out with Williams before he quit?

So LD II leaves North Carolina, which goes on win the ACC regular season championship behind the play of his replacement, freshman point guard Kendall Marshall. Days later at his 21st birthday, LD II takes the mic to rap about his former squad. Among his lyrics:

“They tried to tell me just to play my role … but who wants to stick with a script full of typos?”

Clearly, LD II’s actions are the result of selfish motives. But his actions are more destructive to his NBA prospects than coming off the bench would have been. Just ask former North Carolina sixth man Marvin Williams. He has now demonstrated to the world that he would rather cast away something millions of kids can only dream about, the chance to win multiple NCAA basketball championships, because he lost a starting position he felt entitled to.

This reminds me of when I was an assistant coach for my little brother’s 10-12 year old church league team. The most talented player on the team was also the tallest, and he wanted to play point guard… not because he wanted to distribute the ball but so that he would have the ball in his hands and could look for his own shot whenever he wanted. When the coach insisted that he play center, where he could both score and collect rebounds, the child announced that he was quitting the team.

The coach then relented and allowed the child to play point guard for the rest of the season, against my advice. I remembered thinking what a horrible message this sent to all the kids on the team. Here was a kid who would always have a sense of entitlement. Through his actions, the coach had assured that the child would never understand the concept of team.

LD II’s actions, and the bad advice he received from his father, cost him the best opportunity he had to gain exposure and possibly capture the attention of NBA scouts. Only by playing on the biggest basketball stage could he hope to emerge as an actual NBA prospect.

All of this leads me to question if LD Sr. belongs in the position of a head NBA basketball coach. If he teaches his own son to quit, how can he teach the Hawks to succeed? LD’s insistence on playing Bibby starter’s minutes long after his skills had declined below an NBA level now appears to me to have been motivated by a sense that Bibby was entitled to those minutes. Henry Bibby would never have to make the call to Drew that Drew made to Roy Williams.

And I imagine how that call would have gone if I had been in LD Sr’s shoes:

“Hello, coach Williams? I wanted to let you know that my son is extremely upset about losing his position as a starter. I wanted to ask you what we can do to help my son learn to deal with adversity and become a man. By the way, thank you for taking my call. You are a basketball coach of vastly greater stature that I will ever attain.”

Instead, LD Sr called Williams to say his son was leaving, and there would be no discussion of the decision. LD II wrote himself out of Williams’ script full of typos, and ensured he will always be remembered as a quitter. At least Williams knew how to spell “ACC Champions.”

Booo!

March 17th, 2011
1:56 am

“Also, I wouldn’t use this game as a referendum on this lineup. It’s entirely possible the Nuggets are just a bad matchup for this team and this lineup will work better against other teams. I am still a little wary of Joe having to guard LeBron for the majority of the game, but I’d give it at least another week and a half or so before making a judgment.”

+1

Booo!

March 17th, 2011
2:03 am

WOW,

Buddy Grizzard for post of the Week!

Najeh Davenpoop

March 17th, 2011
2:04 am

About the Nuggets — that impending Nuggets-Thunder first round matchup has classic written all over it. It just sucks that one of those teams won’t be in Round 2.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 17th, 2011
2:06 am

“Just ask former North Carolina sixth man Marvin Williams. He has now demonstrated to the world that he would rather cast away something millions of kids can only dream about, the chance to win multiple NCAA basketball championships, because he lost a starting position he felt entitled to.”

He has also demonstrated that when faced with the opportunity to sign a multi-year multimillion dollar contract at age 20, he won’t pass it up, just like 99% of the world’s population. Marvin was all but guaranteed to be a top 5 pick in 2005. He would have been insane not to jump to the NBA. Ask Matt Leinart how passing up being a top 5 draft pick for an extra year in college worked out for him.

Buddy Grizzard

March 17th, 2011
2:29 am

Or ask Ken Swilling.

TheAntiMe

March 17th, 2011
3:13 am

I’m far from the first to say this but the Hawks play with a mindset and stubbornness that totally defies logic. They know that every team in the league knows what the Hawks are going to do. All teams know that if they can make it tough for the Hawks inside early in the game that, like Ohm’s Law, the Hawks will always take the path of least resistance and stand on the perimeter jacking up jump shots which is exactly what every other team wants them to do.

Last season the Hawks were able to run the break effectively to change the style when needed from their half-court offense, but this season that strategy when employed has been working against them as they have become a turnover prone team after being one of the least turnover prone teams last season.

The obvious thing to all that they should be doing is to establish the inside game and work the ball inside out but they haven’t shown the mental or physical toughness to be able to do so. Also, the fact that they go long stretches where they just quit playing defense makes it very difficult for the Hawks to avoid losing games.

The promotion of Larry Drew to Head Coach has not served the team well. It’s plain to see that the Hawks don’t listen to LD any more than they did to Woody last season. And now the Hawks players are back to pointing the finger to blame other teammates for their losing ways the same as they did last season when things weren’t going well. Al Horford is right. “There’s no question something needs to be done.” Unfortunately, I’m not counting on a whole lot being done about anything regarding the Hawks right now. I very much hope that I am wrong. After all, this is the same team with the same players that won 53 games last season. Get it together, men! Please.

Grandad

March 17th, 2011
3:14 am

Hey 71 yr old Rusty

If you wer born in 1930 or 40 or whatever,
in what city did you see Babe Ruth pitch?
in other words what team was he pitching for?

I’ll give you time to look that one up on the internet, as well.

I guess you didn’t feel like looking for any world events.

What year did we land on the moon, Rusty?
Be careful, it’s a trick question.

Grandad

March 17th, 2011
3:15 am

* were born in 1939 or 40

LD II musta been rappin’ about me.

Grandad

March 17th, 2011
3:30 am

Buddy Grizzard

You may be on to something.
My son just finished playing collegiate basketball.
As a father, I would never intercede and do his talking for him.
note *[not saying I never spoke to the coach on a professional level]
However, part of learning to be a man is letting your son grow up.
If he quit, then Son should have talked to RW man to man.
[not on the phone]
Once again, if LD1 had a conversation with RW fine,
but, when it comes to nut cuttin’ time,
you must let your son grow up.

Is this a “Drew family character” problem ?

His handling of the team makes one wonder ?

Time for LD1 to nut up !

“Sports do not build character. They reveal it.”
— John Wooden —

Andrew

March 17th, 2011
4:02 am

If Larry Drew (Sr.) lacks character, then maybe unemployment will help to build some character. Make it happen, ASG.

Hawks Fan In New Oreans

March 17th, 2011
4:13 am

Great post Buddy Grizzard. You dug deep on this one and exposed a possible and potentially serious character flaw.

I am tired of complaining redundantly and LD’s redundant mistakes in game-planning, adjustments, substitutions and commanding respect.

wordsmithtom

March 17th, 2011
4:26 am

Hopefully, first the ASG getting bought out. Then, new ownership installs new GM who will want his own coach. Clean house. What we have now is disfunctional. GM gets guys who never play. Coach names captains who don’t do what he tells them. This mess needs a new broom, starting with the top.

Jamill

March 17th, 2011
6:59 am

The jordan crawford trade will go down as the worst thing this franchise has done it even will eclipse marvin because marvin was scouted highly and kirk is just a trade chip. Gave wizards the best back court wtf

tremaine

March 17th, 2011
7:14 am

Last night game was the reason why they need to trade Josh Smith and get a center.

tremaine

March 17th, 2011
7:17 am

- Smith missed seven of his first eight and was pulled. I don’t know that I’ve seen that happen this season that quickly.

No you haven’t seen that this season.

Roundfield on Roundball

March 17th, 2011
7:24 am

Typical Hawks loss. The night after Joe gets everyone excited – he craps the bed. What a dumpster fire his contract will be for this franchise. The post game quotes from game 68 are the same we heard after every loss. “We ought to do this, we ought to do that.” It is so depressing. If the Hawks were a college team, they would be the one that “didn’t belong” in the field of 68. Where are their quality wins? In Miami, o.k. 1. You see how they’ve done as “strength of schedule” has increased. Inevitably, they will blow this team up, new coach, dump Marvin, but without resources to sign anyone of fan interest, and the lame draft for 2011, more of same looms. The Hawks are overlooked for a reason.

RweBlind

March 17th, 2011
7:29 am

Did anyone happen to watch the NBA TV replay of the ‘95 Bulls/Magic game yesterday? Amazing stuff.

After watching this and then watching the Hawks/Nuggets (along w/ the MIA/OKC game) later, I felt like I was watching the NBA and then later a couple of average church league games.

In the entire first half of the Bulls/Magic game, I only remember around 3-5 total shots being taken from outside of 10-12 feet by both teams combined in the entire first half!

Jordan was an unreal defender. His ability to get through/around picks was unlike anything I’ve seen by anyone in todays game. He literally played the entire floor defensively and had an absolutely sick ability to recover from virtually anywhere. The fluent, cat-like manner in which he moved was almost frightening. There is no comparison between Jordan and any of today’s players. Period. None. Not even close. There’s light years between him and Kobe, James, Wade, etc.

Either of those teams would have destroyed the elite teams of today. Today is church league by comparison. It’s not just the Hawks, the entire NBA product is in serious decline. Man, what a rude awakening.

Enough with the jumpers, NBA. Even little girls can shoot them.

O'Brien

March 17th, 2011
7:35 am

Team loss tonight, from the HC down. I still dont understand why we are losing so many home games. The ASG needs to have a talk with the coach and the players to let them know that losing home games will not convince fans to come watch them play.

Najeh,

The problem for the Hawks against Miami is who will show up on offense. If we start JJ and Marvin, that could be 2 positions that dont give us much offensively. And on defense, JJ will be on Wade, and Marvin will be on LeBron.

I think Josh or Al will have a good game, but I’m not sure what to expect from Teague or Hinrich.

The scary thing about Miami (when they put their mind to it) is:

1) They can be a very good defensive minded team
2) They (Wade and LbJ) can get to the FT line almost at will

At this point in the season, I have no idea what the Hawks’ “will’ is. Said Jamal “I think we have to learn to handle adversity..

Except for the Celtics playoff series, we have not handled adversity well for the 3rd season in a row (imo).

O'Brien

March 17th, 2011
7:37 am

From 2 blogs ago;

He still was not a bad pick,

You said We have a all star pf that is forced to play c.

Actually, we have an All-Star Center. If Al was playing PF, would he have made the All-Star team the last 2 years?

Rufus1,

You made a good point. I don’t think Woody and LD have done a good job of defining all the player roles, and getting them to play to their strengths.

O'Brien

March 17th, 2011
7:39 am

And for the record, I would not mind if the Hawks made a coaching change this off-season, as long as they also trade one of their core.

This being the Hawks of course, I dont expect any kind of moves from them…

ReddJonn68

March 17th, 2011
7:49 am

When will someone finally try to talk some sense into Josh Smith head, about the fact that he has no outside game to speak of !!! The best outside shooting PF ever was Robert Horry, but only because of his shot selection & clutch ability. There have been many other great shooting PFs, but most of them could not knock down that dagger 3 pointer. Josh does not even possess an average range jump shot ( the 15 to 18 footer).

He just does not care about the team concept & will cost the Hawks dearly when the Heat & Bosh play against them. Bosh will make his mid range jumpers & Josh will get sucked into trying to play H O R S E instead of team ball. Larry Drew has very little leadership skills. Good luck Hawks your going to need it trying to play 4 vs 6 !!!

joe

March 17th, 2011
7:53 am

the Hawks big move was to get Kirk H., huh? That is a move that is typical of the Hawks, just doing something to be able to say you tried….. The only more inept team in handling personel in the NBA is the Clippers! Huge contracts to Marvin, Bibby, Patuela and 120m to JJ ????? WOW

Geemack

March 17th, 2011
8:09 am

So after a few months the team is already tunning LD out.

It took Woody 6 years to get to this point.

Section 303

March 17th, 2011
8:11 am

I told myself I was not going to read the blog today….not because of anyone on here, but because I did not want to read the same stupid quotes from the Hawks coach/players. Alas….I broke down and read the blog. Now, I’m annoyed.

I love how these a$$holes have been in the league for years now and still have to talk about learning to handle adversity.

I’m just done with Josh Smith. I hate watching that guy play.

Geemack

March 17th, 2011
8:14 am

RweBlind

Yeah it’s easy to look that good when the competion watered down.

The NBA perimeter competion was watered down from 91-98 (until Kobe came into his own).

phil

March 17th, 2011
8:26 am

LD is a horrible coach. But that was obvious when he was hired. Zero enthusiasm, zero personality, and clearly zero ability to motivate these guys. Never mond zero ability to handle the x’s and o’s….

at any rate, another typical game. Miami will run them out of the joint friday nite….please spare yourselves and don’t pay it any attention until the post mortem, which will be nearly identical to most of the games….

drmaryb (*_-)

March 17th, 2011
8:27 am

“The ASG needs to have a talk with the coach and the players to let them know that losing home games will not convince fans to come watch them play.”
____________

O’B said it best! Enthusiastic co-sign. The brass need to stop being the equivalent of 8 orangutans throwing feces at each other and start throwing some of that at these players, after a game like last night.

There seems to be no sense of urgency. The play offs start in 4 weeks and the core is still saying we have to share the ball? Where is the TRUST? Isn’t that what team chemistry is all about? If they pass it from side to side the defense will move and open those lanes.

Last night in the end of the 3rd qrtr, they stopped defending the three.

rk

March 17th, 2011
8:37 am

JT will not be in the NBA when his contract is up.No other team will take him. He can’t shoot. Denver did not even check him. That is why he did not play much.They were doubling other players and given him the shot. He is quick but does not know how to penetrate and dish like a point guard. Denvers pg’s showed how quickness shoud be used. The team does not want to call JS out. The say words like share the ball more. AH has the fourth best shooting percentage in the league and gets about 5 to 6 shots a game. JS takes 16 to 18 shoots a game. We need a coach to define JS role. Who ever heard of a power forward hanging on the 3 point line and trying to run the fast break. Sure sometimes he makes good plays but for the most part it hurts the team. He has alstar ability but this coach will not bring it out. The longer he is allowed to play this way the harder it will be for him to change.