Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 110, Bucks 85

  • I couldn’t decide on the strangest sight tonight: Joe in a giant headband, Joe playing like an All-Star shotmaker or he and the other Hawks regulars laughing and joking on the bench in the fourth quarter of a blowout W.
  • It had been a while since all of those things happened for the Hawks.
  • “We haven’t had a win like this, I don’t think, all year,” L.D. said. “This was a huge win against a very quality team.”
  • Well the Bucks are a quality defensive team, at least. Not many opponents shoot well against the Bucks, and that could have meant trouble for the Hawks if they came out jump-shot happy, missed, and kept jacking.
  • Instead they came out running and J.J., wearing his magic headband, couldn’t miss.
  • “That was the Joe of Old,” Drew said.
  • Suddenly everything that hadn’t been working for so long was clicking. J.J. made runners, post-ups, pull-ups, baseline turnarounds and 3-pointers. Lots and lots of 3-pointers, including five in a row as the Hawks buried the Bucks in the first half.
  • “It was just a feeling, and I just let it go,” he said.
  • Joe looked spry on defense, too.
  • “He was fighting through screens,” Drew said. “He just had a solid, solid overall game on both ends of the floor. He was making shots, but I thought defensively he did a tremendous job as well.”
  • J.J. said two days off helped him feel better. I’m thinking this means that L.D. needs to find him as many days off as possible.
  • The Hawks aren’t going anywhere if Joe can’t play up to his usual level. This has to be the start of something for him.
  • “It gives us a lot of confidence,” Al said. “When Joe is going like that, he’s as good as anyone in the league. I’m really happy for him tonight to get it going and hopefully it starts building some momentum for him for the playoffs.”
  • The Hawks ran smart tonight. Five of their 12 field goals in the first quarter came by way of fast breaks and there weren’t many of the silly turnovers they had against the Blazers. Atlanta would have had more transition points if the Bucks hadn’t fouled a few times to prevent easy run-outs.
  • It’s encouraging for the Hawks to run against an opponent that’s capable of grinding them down in the half court.
  • “With the change in the lineup, it has allowed us to get out a little bit more in transition, particularly with Jeff Teague,” Drew said. “I thought Kirk did a good job as well. We got stops and we got our break going. Both Al and Josh Smith did a great job of running the floor. We put a lot of emphasis on that before the game. We really wanted to make Bogut run the floor, get him up and down.”
  • Brandon Jennings is Milwaukee’s speed guy but Teague had him tied up. It was one thing for Teague to get into Andre Miller’s chest and keep him from getting near the basket, quite another for him to do the same to Jennings.
  • “You look at Teague’s line, you may not be impressed from a numbers standpoint, but I thought he set the tone early with Jennings,” L.D. said. “He got up on him early at the half court, picked him up some in the back court. To be honest, in the past, we weren’t able to do that.”
  • Bogut got his but he didn’t get much help so the Bucks had no chance to match Atlanta’s hot scoring.
  • “Everyone played solid on the defensive end, we helped each other out like we should play,” Al said. “They came in here earlier in the year and beat us pretty bad, so we didn’t forget that game.”
  • There were times when the Bucks looked as if they would rather be somewhere else. Salmons was the worst offender.
  • “We had trouble getting back on defense early in the game and we looked a little bit tired,” Scott Skiles said. “We tried to put fresher bodies in there but that didn’t work. It was just one of those games where we didn’t play very well. . . . They dictated to us instead of us to them.”
  • It’s clear Smoove doesn’t have the same spring in his legs and really hasn’t for much of the season. But he’s still managing to dig out rebounds, challenge shots and finish dunks on the break. Now if he can just cut down on the turnovers.
  • This was another strong defensive rebounding game for the Hawks, who collected 36 of Milwaukee’s 50 misses (plus three team rebounds). A subpar game on the boards from Al (five rebounds) was offset by Josh’s 14 rebounds and a combined 13 from Joe, Teague and Hinrich.
  • “We make it a point for our guards to get in there,” Drew said. “We use the term ‘gang rebound.’ It’s not just for the big guys, it’s for everybody. It’s got to be everybody in there on the glass and chasing down loose balls.”
  • Marvin doesn’t like to come off the bench but it seems like he gets right to work when he’s a reserve. He was strong and confident while taking the Bucks into the post.
  • Jamal scored just four points on four shots but had eight assists against three turnovers.
  • Damien has scored in double figures in three of the last four games.
  • Circumstances dictate that Ken S. takes over for the next few days, blog people. Be cool until I get back.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

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March 15th, 2011
11:14 pm

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Hawks Fan In New Oreans

March 15th, 2011
11:15 pm

first – h was me

Najeh Davenpoop

March 15th, 2011
11:16 pm

“To be honest, in the past, we weren’t able to do that.”

I wonder why.

Little Fawkers

March 15th, 2011
11:20 pm

Sorry but there was not 13,590 people at the game tonight. Where did that stat come from?

Hawks Fan In New Oreans

March 15th, 2011
11:21 pm

The road win at Utah was pretty huge too. The Hawks imposed their will on Jerry Sloan’s squad in his last stand 110-87. LD get ya mind right and keep starting Teague. Great win nonetheless. I was trippin off the headband bandit Joe fighting to reclaim his swagger. I am hardly superstitious but he may have to keep that look.

Rev in Tampa

March 15th, 2011
11:29 pm

“He got up on him early at the half court, picked him up some in the back court. To be honest, in the past, we weren’t able to do that.”

Well, Coach Drew, who’s fault is that???

i_am_soulstar

March 15th, 2011
11:38 pm

Glad to see Joe get it in tonight. He needs to keep that headband on until he has a poor game.

Crazy Fan

March 15th, 2011
11:45 pm

Man it was crazy tonight in the 6th man section 118. Great game to cheer on the hawks, hope the same happens tomorrow.

Ken Strickland

March 16th, 2011
12:07 am

REV IN TAMPA-It looks like LDrew is finally realizing what his team can do defensively when they’re not being burdened with trying to compensate for his decision making. It took a trade by RSund and the ASG to finally get rid of the cause of the problem Drew and his STUBBORN STUPIDITY insisted on creating.

Let’s hear a response from all of the know it all’s who insisted Teague couldn’t play DEF.

AG

March 16th, 2011
12:11 am

I am sure one of Jennings worst games of his career. Great job Teague. Another challenge tomorrow, Ty Lawson

superiorblogman

March 16th, 2011
12:11 am

Good game for the team. 2morrow night will be a bigger test. We are good in back to backs and the starters all played 3 quarters tonight.So, we should be fine. On another note, trading Jordan and that 1st round pick essentially for Kirk was stupid then but will go down as one of the worse trades in Hawks history and maybe even NBA history.

lp

March 16th, 2011
12:17 am

I will be there in section 114 I hope they win tomorrow.

The Truth

March 16th, 2011
12:21 am

The only thing that will take the sting out of the Bibby for Hinrich trade (courtesy of Sund narrow vision and LD’s desperate coaching) is for Hilton to become a potential stud. Without question, Hinrich is an upgrade over Bibby but may not be enough alone to justify the cost. So the X factor is Hilton. If he can become a vital contributor, than Hawksville will be forgiving and have a short memory. Otherwise, pending the outcome of the playoff, the critics will be poised to pounce. With JC2 balling for the Wizards, the chatter has already started.

Section 212

March 16th, 2011
12:24 am

For JJ, the Bucks were just like most women from Milwaukee…..a Slump Buster!

Rashod

March 16th, 2011
12:26 am

Joe Johnson still sucks !!! Do it against the Lakers,Knicks or Heat !!! The Bucks are sorry.

Section 212

March 16th, 2011
12:28 am

Thanks Rashod for enlightening us…

lewis

March 16th, 2011
12:32 am

i watched the second half…jordan looked awful like the rest of the wiz…

Jae Evolution

March 16th, 2011
12:32 am

“Good game for the team. 2morrow night will be a bigger test. We are good in back to backs and the starters all played 3 quarters tonight.So, we should be fine. On another note, trading Jordan and that 1st round pick essentially for Kirk was stupid then but will go down as one of the worse trades in Hawks history and maybe even NBA history.”

Trading for defense is never a bad trade, sure Jordan was a really good player and would’ve been a cheap version of Jamal had he not re-signed this offseason, but we really didn’t have space for the kid. You look at the Knicks team, they didn’t play good defense before but you trade half your starters for a guy who plays soft on the defensive end, and you allow 119 points to the Pacers and 116 to the Cavs, I think we did a pretty good job.

Jae Evolution

March 16th, 2011
12:36 am

Also add to the fact we gave away our 1st rd draft pick, but this draft is looking real weak so I doubt we would’ve gained any real talent anyways. Some of the picks people were sharing in earlier blogs looked like quality picks, who knows we might find a gem in that 2nd round…

Ryan

March 16th, 2011
12:46 am

I love this line up of Joe at the 3. It works for Boston so why wouldnt it work for us?

Grandad

March 16th, 2011
12:46 am

Rev & Ken Strickland

Let’s think a minute.
[before we decide LD is stupid]
Woody was stubborn and would never change.
At least LD tries different looks and strategies.
Remember he is learning on the job.
He is just like Teague;
LD is gaining confidence day by day in his decision making.

He [LD] may have found his team’s chemistry.

*addendum:
It’s as if we gained three new players at the “deadline”.
* Brand new backcourt / teague + Hinrich.
* Plus a new small forward = Joe.

mykhalc

March 16th, 2011
12:47 am

just as Teague is gettin’ a run with the starters so does Hilton need to get a run with them too. the cat is active and OBVIOUSLY the most athletic on the team…willing to bet he’s probably more polished than Al at this point!!! and Marvin has found his place…we can only pray LD sees it too!!!

superiorblogman

March 16th, 2011
12:48 am

There are plenty good draft picks that could help the Hawks in the 1st and 2nd round. Who cares if the draft may be weak as a whole as long as the Hawks make good picks? If I were a business man I would put it out there that the draft was weak and then just stockpile picks to move up, out, or gain valuable assets. To just remove your self from a potential oppurtunity shows how narrow-minded the Hawks front office is. Hope is a major component on this earth. No excuse for the Hawks killing there chance of hope through the draft by trading 2 1st rd picks for a serviceable player who adds to your already troubled payroll, and yes he added $1 million to the payroll. That trade was horrible in every way and I am sorry if I have to be honest and say Kirk has not made this team better by his presence alone. Teague and Kirk as the starters may do the trick, but not Kirk alone.

Grandad

March 16th, 2011
12:52 am

The Truth & others

I think the trade was tremendous.
I wish JC2 well
[but never thought as highly of him as my blog brethren]
(I always viewed him as a trade chip)

Grandad

March 16th, 2011
12:57 am

mykhalc

Co-Sign on Hilton.
I wish Brockman had not taken that charge,
would have enjoyed seeing the young man throw it down.

Eventually, I think he helps more than “Marv the tease”.

Rufus1

March 16th, 2011
1:00 am

Kirk > Jamal and Bibby…

Kirk is as good a PG as Bibby.
Kirk is as good a 3pt shooter as Bibby
Kirk plays better defense than both.
Kirk will replace Jamal next year

mykhalc

March 16th, 2011
1:00 am

IMHO gettin’ Marvin outta the startin’ lineup was/is waaayyyy more important than gettin’ Teague in!!! don’t get me wrong, i like what it brings. but lemme see Kirk/JJ/Josh/Al/Hilton get a run too…then my questions would be answered!!!

Wabe

March 16th, 2011
1:01 am

Jordan Crawford goes off for 27 points, 3 boards, and 4 assists.

This kid’s gonna be a legit scorer in this league. And we wouldn’t even let him step on the court.

Grandad

March 16th, 2011
1:04 am

mykhalc – Co-Sign once more @ [1:00 am] (habit forming)

darrell starks

March 16th, 2011
1:06 am

Rufus1 i cosign.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

March 16th, 2011
1:09 am

If the hawks don’t sign jamal next year the lineup could look like this.
STARTER TEAGUE, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD, HILTON OR COLLINS
BENCH HINRICH, DAMIEN, MARVIN, POWELL, ZAZA
RESERVE COLLINS
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

mykhalc

March 16th, 2011
1:12 am

@Grandad…LOL

Rufus1

March 16th, 2011
1:12 am

We also got Marvin as bench player in the trade…10pts, 5rebs and good defense off the bench is good production….stop complaining about the trade, we need to win now.

Rev in Tampa

March 16th, 2011
1:13 am

Grandad,

I understand your point. I am glad that LD is willing to expierment because it looks as if he has found the right rotations to maximize the each player’s strengths. The whole team is playing better as a result.

My comments that I directed toward Coach Drew reflect my frustration that he continued to stay with Bibby when his defense was such a liability.

Did Teague just happen, COINCIDENTALLY, to develop into this defensive dynamo at the trade deadline? I feel certain that if Bibby were still here he would still be starting at the point.

darrell starks

March 16th, 2011
1:13 am

Sleepy

March 16th, 2011
1:14 am

Jordan Crawford is not a legit scorer in the league not even close .

Legit scorers points actually have some type of impact on the game .

and Kirk is a better defensive player than jamal but Jamal is the better overall player. He was +30 tonight and led the team in assists

Bibby shouldnt even be in the discussion hes on his last legs

Wabe

March 16th, 2011
1:15 am

I understand that scoring a ton of points on a bad team doesn’t mean as much. But really, JC2 was supposedly high on the Hawks lists during the draft.

People were quick to praise Sund for his deal to swap Bibby + Mo for Hinrich, but truthfully, Sund just cleaned up his own mess. He’s the one that re-up’d Bibby + Mo Evans, and then he found himself with a PG who was aging quickly, so much so that his play was obviously taking a toll on this teams ability to win games, thus he absolutely needed to make the move. I’ve never liked Mo Evans, but Sund re-up’d Evans too. We let go of a kid who clearly has potential for Sund’s dumb mistake.

I wouldn’t cut the coaches any slack in this either though. It’s obvious, at least to me, that Teague could’ve and would’ve provided a greater impact had he been given the chance to play than Mike Bibby when Bibby was still around. Had the coaches (Drew/Woody) not leaned on Bibby as much as they did and given Teague more burn, we would’ve been much better off. But instead of developing young talent, these coaches insisted on playing the veteran PG who was really only brought in here as a stop-gap. This is the same reason why I’m saying as of now that the Hawks 1st priority should be to groom Teague. Hinrich’s the exact same thing Mike Bibby was when he was brought here – a stop-gap who’ll be good for a couple of years, but *he is not this teams PG of the future*. SO, DEVELOP TEAGUE. He may/may not be the Hawks PG of the future, nobody knows. But, we know for sure that Kirk Hinrich isn’t that guy, so why waste the time on a guy that isn’t going to assume that role?

Not a knock on Hinrich, I like what the guy brings. But, focus on peices that will have a long-term impact.

darrell starks

March 16th, 2011
1:18 am

The trade was succesful for the hawks, not only that it FORCE LD 2 play teague more 2 stop favoritism on the job among the player, PLUS I THINK ARMSTRONG CAN BECOME A SOLID DEFENDER IN THE PAINT 2 MOVE HORFORD 2 POWERFORWARD, this is a good trade by SUND.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wabe

March 16th, 2011
1:19 am

Wabe

March 16th, 2011
1:01 am
“This kid’s ****gonna**** be a legit scorer in this league”

And he has a much better chance to be a legit scorer than Kirk Hinrich does.

Again, I like Hinrich, I like what he brings. But, be real, this guy isn’t getting this team over the top. We unloaded a guy with a ton of potential (IMO for a stop-gap PG. It is what it is.

Grandad

March 16th, 2011
1:19 am

Mr superiorblogman;
I must disagree concerning the trade.

At this time I wish it to be noted that I’m the 1st
to put forth the name:

— Giorgi Shermadini —

7-1, Georgian (think borscht not grits) [or Zaza]
most probably will be available in 2nd round
More later, I just wanted to be the 1st to introduce the name.

Hawks Fan In New Oreans

March 16th, 2011
1:21 am

I xerox that Wabe.

Grandad

March 16th, 2011
1:24 am

Rev in Tampa

As usual we agree.

__________________

Rufus1

“we need to win now”

Co-Sign !

Wabe

March 16th, 2011
1:25 am

The problem really is, people are focused on winning now.

The roster that’s in place isn’t winning now. Period.

ASG doesn’t know what kind of plan to carry out. To say they’re in “win-now” mode wouldn’t really be truthful, because if we were, they wouldn’t be screaming “core…core” and they’d try harder to bring in talent. At the same time, I wouldn’t say we’re building for the future, because we’re shipping out young talent for stop-gap peices and leaning on vets.

ASG + coaches are caught in a bind. They don’t know what they want. They’re focused on this core, which tells you we’re gonna live or die with this core. But, they’re trading peices that could pan out to be solid contributors within this core down the road for average guys that aren’t gonna bring the type of impact that’s needed to get this team over the top.

What’s the strategy? Are we in win-now mode? Or are we building for down the road? Nobody can really say. That’s why we’re stuck in a rut. Nobody can explain the Hawks, because they themselves can’t explain which direction they’re moving in.

Hawks Fan In New Oreans

March 16th, 2011
1:26 am

I am also intrigued with the possibility of inserting Hilton in the starting line up a time or two before the playoffs. I saw him play in his early days in New Orleans – more upside than Marvin Sease Williams.

mykhalc

March 16th, 2011
1:29 am

@darrell…nice link man. yep..the cat needs some real burn time. he’s already run with one of the top 3 PGs in the league…he KNOWS how to play the 5!!! good handle etc etc…i actually was high on him on draft day. he came out the year before Al right? who was the Hawks pick that year?

Grandad

March 16th, 2011
1:30 am

KH has allowed this team to move forward.
Teaguer now starts at pg.
Teaguer + Hinrich terrific defensive backcourt.
Joe > Marv is the best move of the trade deadline.
*[it's as if we traded Marvin for Joe]
JC2 was not playing, KH is, so that’s improvement.

Plus I think the trade signals that the ASG / Sund plans to re-sign Jamal.

JSS

March 16th, 2011
1:32 am

So happy I could cry! It’s like waking up from a horrible nightmare!

darrell starks

March 16th, 2011
1:34 am

mykhlac THE HAWKS SELECTED THE LAND LORD THAT YEAR LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

mykhalc

March 16th, 2011
1:34 am

@JSS…LOL but remember LD is still the HC!!! he could put us all in a coma before the season’s over…

Grandad

March 16th, 2011
1:36 am

mykhalc

Hilton Armstrong was picked 12th in ‘06
7 spots after the Hawks selected Sheldon Williams.