Atlanta Hawks: Practice report

Notes from practice today . . .

  • L.D. said he could use the Teague-Hinrich back court more often: “I certainly can see it. I have said it from day one with Jeff’s speed and quickness, we don’t have anybody on this team that comes close. When he’s playing at a high level it makes us better. Kirk has played some two a great majority of his career. When he was in Chicago, he played alongside Rose. He played some up in Washington alongside Wall. He’s used to it. It’s something we are looking at. It moves him to the two, it moves Joe to the three. We will probably look at it even more as we wind down the stretch of the season.”
  • Al practiced today and said he plans to play against the Bucks. L.D. was hopeful but wasn’t ready to declare Al ready: “He gives me the same thing every time I ask him: ‘I’m OK.’ He said that right before the Blazers game. We will just have to wait and see. I know Al if he can play, he will.”
  • Josh Powell declined comment on his arrest in a traffic incident near Philips on Saturday. He said he planned to release a statement later. As for his state of mind, Powell said: “It’s good, man. I’ve done a lot of praying. I’m trying to maintain a positive mind. I appreciate all the people that have been supportive in this situation.”
  • The Hawks seemed rejuvenated after snapping the winning streak and getting Sunday off: “They seemed to have a little bit more juice. Heck, I seemed to have a little bit more juice. It’s good to break the streak. You are almost 70 games into the season. It’s been a long grind, and you just welcome those kind of moments.

    “I told the players at start of the season we would experience some rough waters and it would be a matter of how we respond to it. The thing is to not get discouraged, lose our confidence, start playing the blame game. Of the 30 teams, I guarantee you 25 or more will go through tough times. I think only two teams who haven’t are San Antonio or Boston. It comes with the territory. I’m glad we responded positively in the last game.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

199 comments Add your comment

Lacsho

March 14th, 2011
4:16 pm

The best option is to start Teague and Kirk in ghe back court, and JJ at the three.

ole richie

March 14th, 2011
4:17 pm

get marvin on the bench and keep him there

Trojan

March 14th, 2011
4:19 pm

I predict 3 minutes for Teague tomorrow.

Lacsho

March 14th, 2011
4:25 pm

What’s good Sautee and Ken Strickland!!!

Swingman912

March 14th, 2011
4:29 pm

F#@k considering it down the stretch!! Do it now! They only way Teague continues to reach his potential is thru playing time…

Rod from College Park

March 14th, 2011
4:29 pm

BENCH MARVIN WILLIAMS. SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE 3 YEARS AGO. LD, if you question Teague’s confidence, why do you continue to start Marvin? Marvin’s last 5 games, 4pts, 2 pts, 4pts, 8pts, 8pts. A five ppg average. No way possible that if you give Damien Wilkins Marvin’s minutes, that he won’t be able to give you better numbers than that.

hawkville

March 14th, 2011
4:30 pm

Larry Drew are u kidding me. Get a clue and run the team. Just talked about taking a ton of jumpers and now u are ready to start 3 guards. Mercy

O'Brien

March 14th, 2011
4:38 pm

Najeh,

•#Hawks F Josh Powell declined comment on arrest in traffic incident. Apologized to team for distraction. Status with team unaffected..

I’m sure you were pleased, because I know how much you would hate to lose the one player on the Hawks with championship experience :smile:

ag

March 14th, 2011
4:38 pm

If you start the three guards, Teague rarely takes jumpers and now those wide open shots Marvin was missing, now go to Hinrich and Joe

O'Brien

March 14th, 2011
4:45 pm

LD:“I certainly can see it. I have said it from day one with Jeff’s speed and quickness, we don’t have anybody on this team that comes close. When he’s playing at a high level it makes us better..

This from the guy who refused to play Jeff against D-Rose, despite Jamal being beat (and the team not scoring)? I really think LD needs to talk less, because the more he talks is the less seriously people take him.

LD:We will probably look at it even more as we wind down the stretch of the season.”.

Sorta like how he was thinking about tinkering his lineup, although it took a losing streak for him to finally try something different 10 games later? Whatever LD.

Rod from CP,

I like the Teague, Hinrich, JJ, Josh and Al team because it brings Marvin off the bench, and gets Josh away from the SF position.

And when Marvin comes off the bench, he seems to play more focused (with more consistent defense and rebounding), and he can also get more minutes at backup PF, reducing the need for Powell to get any PT.

SteveW

March 14th, 2011
4:47 pm

I’m totally comfortable with Jeff Teague being the starter on a 50 win team. I don’t know when the Hawks will be a 50 win team again though, not with Larry at the helm, unless he learns real fast.

The Hawks have been outscored by 115 points in the 25 games prior to Portland. That 4.6 points per game. That’s lottery pick territory.

And some of you guys are getting hilarious with your justifications for jeff not playing regular rotational minutes. You guys will be complaining no matter how good he is, because you were wrong and have a refusal to admit it. You were wrong! There I did it for you.

Worldwide Clyde

March 14th, 2011
4:51 pm

I think Drew needs to swallow his pride even more and start playing Etan Thomas, Twin, and Hilton Armstrong more. With Zaza and Horford already in the mix that’s 30 fouls you can use on defense to protect the paint and wear down bigs from the other team.

Hawks Boy

March 14th, 2011
5:03 pm

MC can you comment on that play yesterday when Kirk was asking for the ball and Josh repeatedly ignored him?

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

March 14th, 2011
5:08 pm

Josh Powell declined comment on his arrest in a traffic incident near Philips on Saturday. He said he planned to release a statement later. As for his state of mind, Powell said: “It’s good, man. I’ve done a lot of praying. I’m trying to maintain a positive mind. I appreciate all the people that have been supportive in this situation.”

lol Powell actin like somethin tragic or serious happened. He wanna feel important.

whoa now slow down big dawg

mountain_jim

March 14th, 2011
5:09 pm

I got to watch the Chicago game and was shocked that Teague was not put in to stop Rose. I lost some respect for our coach in that game.

Rufus1

March 14th, 2011
5:12 pm

Teague is a PG on a 50win Team…

Once he perfects that “floater”, he might be our future star. Teague combines a scores mentality with Super quickness, he will be an 18 to 20pts scorer with time….and when Josh Smith figures out he isn’t a scorer or a PG.

Teague will also be top 5 in the league in steals…

Rufus1

March 14th, 2011
5:14 pm

@mountain_jim

“lost some respect for our coach in that game.”

Welcome to the party.

EmirS.

March 14th, 2011
5:28 pm

Josh Smith is a scorer.

He needs to figure out that he’s not a 1 or even a 2.

He also needs to figure out that he CAN dominate in the paint.

He also needs to figure out when to and when not to take a jumper.

He also needs to get back to running the floor and hustling like he always did.

It seems at times that Smith is like an 18 year old NBA Vet, whose lost his legs under him and can’t keep up witht he stamina and energy required to run up and down the floor. I can’t stand seeing him “LaLa Skip” up the floor to get abck on defense. It irritates the crap out of me.

Rev in Tampa

March 14th, 2011
5:33 pm

I wonder if Powell was praying for the person who was hindered from getting to the hospital or praying for his own sorry butt to get out of trouble.

niorthcyde

March 14th, 2011
5:38 pm

Even if Teague doesn’t start, will people still expect him to impact the game? Or will he get a pass when he plays poorly, because LD still has him as the backup PG? No more passive PG play out of Teague, if he expects to get consistent minutes. Playing alongside Jamal shouldn’t have him be that ineffective.

As for what LD said, I think that’s an indication that there won’t be any changes to the starting lineup. If anything, he’ll go big, not bench Marvin and go small. But if Horford is still out, who knows? Maybe he’ll start Teague and Zaza again.

From now on, I’m taking the position of not believing a word that Drew says, and simply watching what he does. In the end, he’ll be judged by what he actually does, not by what he says he’s going to do.

honest_abe

March 14th, 2011
5:38 pm

“MC can you comment on that play yesterday when Kirk was asking for the ball and Josh repeatedly ignored him?”

that only happens like a million times during any basketball game. not everyone who calls for the ball get it.. heh

i_am_soulstar

March 14th, 2011
5:42 pm

i was just gonna say, Rod from College Park has to be loving the idea of JJ moving to the 3 and Marvin heading to the bench.

Ryan

March 14th, 2011
5:54 pm

Hawkville, Actually Teague doesnt shoot jumpers. He goes to the rack. So the team will get better at going to the hole. And if Josh will stay next to the hoop, Teague will give him dump offs for easy dunks. And I think JJ should move to the 3 and post up more. That is a much more complete line up

i_am_soulstar

March 14th, 2011
5:55 pm

One thing I’ve always thought about Teague coming off the bench is that it’s hard for him to play with Jamal who dominates the ball pretty frequently. If you give it to him with less than 16 seconds on the clock, you probably won’t get it back unless you’re a big and Jamal does a drive and dish. This is why I’ve never liked playing Teague with Jamal. Their offensive styles of play are not compatible as both need the ball to make something happen. You can’t play 2 combo guards together! Somebody’s gonna suffer.

Rod from College Park

March 14th, 2011
5:55 pm

“If anything, he’ll go big, not bench Marvin and go small.”

Marvin plays small, so his size does not matter. He is 6′9, but plays like he is 6′3, and is not a great rebounder. Damien would easily match his production defensively, offensively, and on the boards, with the same minutes.

Rod from College Park

March 14th, 2011
5:59 pm

“i was just gonna say, Rod from College Park has to be loving the idea of JJ moving to the 3 and Marvin heading to the bench.”

Iv’e been advocating that move for the last 3 years. Not just because Marvin sucks, but also because of JJ’s game. JJ rebounds at the same rate as Marvin, playing the 2, and his game is better suited to play the 3. Just like Boston moved Pierce from the 2 to the 3, the Hawks should do JJ the same way.

northcyde

March 14th, 2011
5:59 pm

Can’t even spell my own name right today.

And Josh Smith is NOT a scorer. He thinks he is though. And that’s why he does some of the questionable things he does on offense, especially when it comes to shot selection.

Oh how I wish he’d transform into the 1994 version of Shawn Kemp. Instead, he’s becoming more and more like the 2007 version of Rasheed Wallace.

At least he’s improved his jumper and his FT%. Can’t knock him for that. The one thing that Smith does do, is try. And he’s not afraid to take the big shot or the great charge on defense.

lewis

March 14th, 2011
6:12 pm

“Just like Boston moved Pierce from the 2 to the 3, the Hawks should do JJ the same way.”

This has been my hope for 2 years.

SB75

March 14th, 2011
6:19 pm

I read often and repsond less…. I wonder if some of you just hate Josh, only think of him as the player he was years ago or even watch the game at all. ” Josh is not a scorer”, are you kidding me? He’s 2nd on the team, shoots a decent fg%, gets to the line more than any other Hawk, and has shown that ability to do more. It’s time to stop hating on the kid.

Would I like him to get the ball to the pg more and fill then Lane? Yes. Is his shot selection questionable? Yes ( for the record you can say that about every player on this Hawks team and I do mean every player). Should he go to the post more? Yes ( Also for the record, drew has to call more post plays). But a scorer he is, I question what Josh SMith you are watching when you say he isn’t.

doc

March 14th, 2011
6:29 pm

amen to lewis and rod on jj being a three. rod you took the words right out if one of my recent blogs. jj isnt a two like allen and is more a three like pierce. the way he is shooting the three now, i prefer him closer to the basket. the team numbers on 82 games with him in that position are pretty good if i remember in the past.

northcyde, i thought it might be an imposter when i saw it. ;-)

Swingman912

March 14th, 2011
6:31 pm

I honestly feel the trade 4 Kirk was a motivator on D, but the answer at PG has been Teague. He’s no D-Rose, but his speed allows him to get to the bucket, the D collapses and either he gets fouled, dishes an open teammate, or misses the shot. Even if he misses, thats still a good shot. No one a EVER had to worry about Bibby blowing past you for the layup…lol. And Kirk isn’t gonna break too many guys down with the dribble (sorry J.J. Redick) lol. An athletic team needs an athletic PG to push the pace. Deal with the mistakes now. So their won’t be as many of those mistakes in the playoffs.

Nobody Cares

March 14th, 2011
6:41 pm

Weve all become Lakers fans.

Prison Mike

March 14th, 2011
6:43 pm

All players have strength and weaknesses. These josh haters will focus strictly on his weakness and give a very back handed compliment to his strengths. Nothing will change there.

Teague needs to get more acclimated than comfortable. He needs to know the tendencies of a jennings, rose, rondo, etc. Can’t do that watching from the bench cuddled between etan and sy.

SteveW

March 14th, 2011
7:05 pm

The times Teague played bad this season have been few and far between. Taking a couple of minutes to get used to a Chris Paul or an Aaron Brooks, yes, but rarely bad. And LD wouldn’t let him play thru it like other players either.

Now Teague will have 5 turnover nights, no question. DRose does on a regular basis. But even when Teague is 2-9, and 1 assist, he still just fits athletically with this team. His pushing the ball, playing good straight up mand D may not show up in the box score, but LD says we need to run, Teague’s the man for the job.

Having Coached, my predilection is to side with Coaches. In this instance, I’ve just had to say LD won’t deal with the vet personalities on this squad, except occassionally Marvin, and move on. And it makes LD look like an idiot to the fans. We see the obvious, and so does LD probably. He’s to smart not to in BB. But not wanting to offend a vet etc., he makes terrible decisions, that have led to the Hawks from being pretty good to abysmal recently.

Sund has tried to cover for him with personnel moves. But eventually LD will Coach this team or he will be removed from duty,

SteveW

March 14th, 2011
7:08 pm

And Teague will face one of the few guys in the League faster than him tomorrow night in Brandon Jennings. And then they bring Boykins and Dooling? off the bench. We’ll def. need Teague and Hinrich tomorrow night.

Rod from College Park

March 14th, 2011
7:10 pm

“All players have strength and weaknesses. These josh haters will focus strictly on his weakness and give a very back handed compliment to his strengths. Nothing will change there.”

Very true. then they will turn around and say that Marvin deserves more shots(LOL). At least Jeje and Slim Jr bash Josh, but they also destroy, Marvin, Bibby and sometimes Joe. How you can bash Josh all the time and not let the other guys have it is unbelievable to me.

SB75

March 14th, 2011
7:28 pm

Prison Mike

March 14th, 2011
6:43 pm
All players have strength and weaknesses. These josh haters will focus strictly on his weakness and give a very back handed compliment to his strengths. Nothing will change there

Honesty…… thanks man.

O'Brien

March 14th, 2011
7:34 pm

I think Josh is a very good player (border-line all star at times). but the reason (imo) why fans get mad at him is becuase his faults are easily corrected.

Marvin has his faults, but there is no way to correct them – he just isnt very good.
Bibby has his faults – but its mostly because he is old and slow

But Josh’s faults are easy to fix.

1) Give up the ball to the PG on the break
2) Make a concerted effort to get in the post, and shoot less 3’s
3) Stay focused, even if calls dont go your way

But the HCs (Woody and LD) have let Josh get away with it for various reasons.

truatlfan

March 14th, 2011
7:44 pm

i know how to fix his problems trade him will never reach his potential in his hometown in rap videos when he need to be workingout he is a joke.

Rashod

March 14th, 2011
8:51 pm

Joe Johnson Sucks !!!

Dr. Warren

March 14th, 2011
8:52 pm

I don’t understand how a guy who scores 24 points in. the last game at the point, and makes steals like that, can possibly still be just a “good option” for the coach. Get this kid out there starting, plain and simple. Larry Drew seems like the ponderous guy polishing the furniture on the Titanic, to me.

ntrigue

March 14th, 2011
9:12 pm

I think Kirk is better suited with the second unit along with Marvin. Teague seems to play better with the first unit than Kirk

J from the A

March 14th, 2011
9:25 pm

Did you guys see the new NBA Power Rankings yet?

It has the Hawks ranked 16th. The rankings have Phoenix (15), Portland (12), Philadelphia (11), and Memphis (9) ranked ahead of the Hawks. Phoenix?! Portland?! Philadelphia?! Memphis?! C’mon!

Given the way the Hawks have played since the All Star break, I don’t expect the Hawks to be ranked up toward the top, but I think the Hawks at least deserve the respect of a slot somewhere in the 10-to-12 neighborhood.

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/powerrankings/03/14/week20/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

EmirS.

March 14th, 2011
9:30 pm

Celtics lost.

Bulls and Cletics tied atop the East standings.

Heat up by 10 over the Spurs at halftime.

Very tense….

J from the A

March 14th, 2011
9:41 pm

Josh is a beast. Trading him would be a high risk proposition.

However, in spite his beastfullness, as we all know, he is somewhat of a high-risk, high-reward player. Perhaps the Hawks should put Josh on the trade block this summer just to see what kind of bids they can get. If Smoove can bringing in a starting quality center + a 6th man/starting quality forward or guard + potential cap relief or picks, then maybe, just maybe, the Hawks should pull the trigger. (Of course, if the Hawks could get an All-Star quality center for Josh, that may even be more ideal. I just think a starting-quality center plus a very solid f or g is more realistic, and such a move would also fill some of the Hawks’ biggest needs.)

On the other hand, my low-risk plan for for the summer would be to try to sign DeAndre Jordan to a multi-year MLE contract. Then try to trade Zaza* for OJ Mayo.

*Well, preferably we should try to trade Marvin for OJ Mayo, but I think there would be a better chance of Memphis biting on the deal if we offered Zaza and not Marvin. (Why do I say this? Well, I am sorta assuming that Marc Gasol moves on, but if Memphis ups the money to resign Gasol, maybe they would be willing to trade for a mediocre forward like Marvin.)

Booo!

March 14th, 2011
9:45 pm

Hey does anybody have a link (DL or Stream) to the ATL-POR game? I didn’t get to watch it. Wanna see soon of that Teague Goodness.

Oh yeah, and LD is still full of it -_-

Booo!

March 14th, 2011
9:46 pm

*some not soon

drmaryb (*_-)

March 14th, 2011
9:50 pm

Ranked and Filed!

J from the A

Thanks for the power ranking update. Did you notice the one thing all thoses teams have in common? Yep, you got it!

PG
Center

They all have the Right Stuff! Balance. Oh! And don’t over look the stability of their ownership groups are solid and not acting like, as Najeh would say, “8 orangutans throwing feces at each other.”

SteveW

March 14th, 2011
10:01 pm

J from the A – we’ve been ranked at least that low, and I think lower for the better part of a month+ on ESPN. With good reason. We’ve been outscored by an average of 4.6 ppg over the 25 games before Saturday. That would put us about 21st or 22nd in the League over an entire season.

Remember, we now call 14 point losses, down by 22 in the 3rd quarter against the Lakers good losses, whom we have beaten the previous 3 seasons at home.

Teams like that deserve no respect. We are in disarray, remember?

rusty

March 14th, 2011
10:05 pm

Lets face the truth,the only way in hell the hawks have a chance to win is to just give the ball to Jeff.with bib as the pg the offense ran through jj,that meant a slow plodding offense.we don’t have a strong inside presence or good enough jump shooters to win that kind of game.jj is too inconsistent to depend on & really makes the rest of the team look bad in a slow tempo game. LD has hurt this team with sonmant stupid moves,he talked a great game ,uptempo good defense holding every body accountable & moving the ball for easy shots but he didnt do any of thes things making us look like old men just each one playing iso shooting jump shots.