Atlanta Hawks: Bulls 94, Hawks 76
D-Rose did a lot of this to the Hawks. (Chris Sweda, McClatchy-Tribune)
Chicago–Kirk Hinrich is new to these Hawks. He sounds like he can’t quite understand why the Hawks recognize what works for them but can’t stick with their plans now that the competition has toughened.
- “In the second half it was like we forgot everything we did in the first half,” Hinrich said.
- I doubt this will be the last time he expresses such a sentiment.
- The Hawks scored 30 points in the second quarter. They made 13 of 21 shots, were 5 of 8 in the paint and had two turnovers. Jamal and Al had the two-man game going and J.J.made a couple jumpers.
- In the third quarter, the Hawks scored 10 points. They missed 11 of 15 shots, were 1 for 2 in the paint and had five turnovers.
- “I don’t think we did what we did in the first half to stick around which is move the basketball and get good looks,” J.J. said. “We started playing a lot of one-on-one and our shot selection wasn’t the greatest.”
- “We definitely didn’t have the movement we had in the first half,” Jamal said.
- To be sure, the game changed because D-Rose decided he was going to change it. But L.D. and the Hawks hardly did all they could to prevent it.
- The coach stuck with a Jamal-J.J. backcourt when Hinrich was in foul trouble. The players did little to discourage Rose from dancing into the lane.
- “Rose got to the basket at will against us,” Drew said. “He attacked the paint and we couldn’t keep him in front of us. We tried a few zone possessions but he still got there.”
- Did L.D. consider sending in Teague for a crack at slowing Rose’s slices to the rim?
- “Thought about it but that to me that wasn’t the real issue at that point, him getting into the lane,” Drew said. “We did nothing with a physicality as far as taking any hard fouls. That was my thought process. Even when he was getting to the line, we did nothing about giving hard fouls. I don’t care who you are playing against, if you play that soft, you are going to have problems in the paint.”
- The problems extended to the glass, where the Bulls hammered the Hawks 50-28. The Bulls are the league’s best rebounding team, so this was a game where the Hawks desperately needed someone other than Al (seven rebounds) and Josh (six) to hit the boards.
- They got four rebounds in 17 minutes from Zaza and not much else. Marvin had one in 18 minutes. L.D. went with Wilkins and he had three in 21 minutes.
- Even with Boozer (ankle) sidelined, Chicago’s front line of Noah, Hawks nemesis Kurt Thomas , Taj Gibson and Omer Asik combined for 31 rebounds. Denghad more rebounds than Marvin and Damien combined in his 40 minutes.
- “They are a good rebounding team,” L.D. said. “They did a great job, which we expected. They did a tremendous job in attacking the glass. Both Noah and Kurt, he still has a little in his tank. He gets to the glass as well. I thought Gibson got to the glass. It’s nothing we didn’t expect. We are a team that’s had problems with the glass, and going into this game we wanted to pay particular attention to that, keep them off the glass and limit them.”
- The Hawks trailed 22-20 after the first quarter, when the Bulls missed some open 3s and Rose got into foul trouble. Joe made an effort to get into the lane early but, in contrast to Rose, was met by a sea of hands and bodies and kept losing his handle on the ball.
- “It was tough,” Joe said. “A lot of that could have gone either way. It happens. I have been and we have been going through a rut these last few games. We will get out of it tomorrow.”
- Josh had success spinning into the lane even if it was tough to finish down there. Things didn’t go so well when he had to dribble before making his move. He also missed both of his 3-point attempts as part of a 1 for 5 effort from beyond 15 feet.
- But at least Josh was willing to go hard to the basket and earned nine free-throw attempts. Horford, Marvin, Jamal, Zaza and Damien had none.
- “It was physical,” L.D. said. “We got the ball down low. I didn’t think we went away from it. We still went down to it we just came away empty-handed. A team like Chicago they have size, they have length. We were pretty much prepared for their double teams.”
- After he started 5 for 5 from the field and seemed to be in a flow, Jamal had just three shot attempts after halftime. The Hawks lately don’t seem able to go to whichever guy has it going.
- Al had five assists. He seemed reluctant to go around or shoot over Thomas.
- The Hawks have been better defensively since Hinrich arrived but the offense has stalled.
- “It’s a little bit of an adjustment,” Hinrich said. “The Hawks play a little different than any team I’ve ever been on. We have a lot of guys who post up and most of the teams I’ve been on haven’t had much of a post-up presence. A lot of isos. We have a lot of versatility. A lot of guys who can handle the ball. I think it’s a good fit. We just have to find a way to help each other on both ends.”
- The Hawks have lost four in a row for the first time since November.
- “We still have a lot more basketball left,” Joe said. “We have just got to stay positive and get out of this little rut we are in. I’m pretty sure I know tomorrow with us going back home knowing we have to get off this skid we have got to come out on all cylinders and try to get us one.”
- “We have got to get up,” L.D. said. “This is the NBA. All teams go through trials and tribulations. We are one of the teams at that time. It’s not a time to hang your head. It’s a time to look in the mirror and come out and bounce back. This is no different than what a lot of the other teams have gone through. This is a time to see what we are made of.”
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
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Nique's Revenge
March 12th, 2011
12:09 am
boo
Najeh Davenpoop
March 12th, 2011
12:10 am
““Thought about it but that to me that wasn’t the real issue at that point, him getting into the lane,” Drew said. “We did nothing with a physicality as far as taking any hard fouls. That was my thought process. Even when he was getting to the line, we did nothing about giving hard fouls. I don’t care who you are playing against, if you play that soft, you are going to have problems in the paint.””
Wow.
I don’t even know how to respond to that.
Nique's Revenge
March 12th, 2011
12:12 am
blah blah blah blah blah blah, stfu and gtfo joKe, larry-drew-up-another-bad-play, and j-smoove-somewhere-else
# “We still have a lot more basketball left,” Joe said. “We have just got to stay positive and get out of this little rut we are in. I’m pretty sure I know tomorrow with us going back home knowing we have to get off this skid we have got to come out on all cylinders and try to get us one.”
# “We have got to get up,” L.D. said. “This is the NBA. All teams go through trials and tribulations. We are one of the teams at that time. It’s not a time to hang your head. It’s a time to look in the mirror and come out and bounce back. This is no different than what a lot of the other teams have gone through. This is a time to see what we are made of.”
Nique's Revenge
March 12th, 2011
12:13 am
I know how. “Drew, you’re fired.”
Nique's Revenge
March 12th, 2011
12:16 am
I’d rather the players and coach not talk to the media at all and take the fine than insult us more with tired repeated soundbites.
rusty
March 12th, 2011
12:20 am
Drew I hate to be this nasty but your the worst excuse for an NBA coach I have ever seen
Booo!
March 12th, 2011
12:20 am
Yes?
rusty
March 12th, 2011
12:21 am
This team is as stupid as the coach is
mykhalc
March 12th, 2011
12:21 am
Joe usin’ the words ‘probably unstoppable’….LMAO and SMDH
Booo!
March 12th, 2011
12:21 am
Seriously though, LD is Full of it!
Hawks Str8Talk
March 12th, 2011
12:21 am
Najeh, took the words out of my mouth. ‘That wasn’t the real issue at that point’. If you don’t know what the real issue is, then of course – there’s no way to solve said issue. And so it goes that almost everything I’ve said about this team since the day we decided not to hire Thibs (or even INTERVIEW Thibs) and not start Teague at PG to start the year (and yes, he wasn’t a better PG than Bibby at the time) has come to pass.
mykhalc
March 12th, 2011
12:22 am
i think he meant ‘definitely stoppable’!! KA BOOM!!!!
mykhalc
March 12th, 2011
12:23 am
i posted in another blog…Kirk is gonna find soon just how selfish and clueless these cats are…well it’s started!!!
rusty
March 12th, 2011
12:23 am
The issue is that your an idiot
Booo!
March 12th, 2011
12:24 am
MC, You need to hit LD with a barrage of Teague and lineup/substitution questions general. He completely BS’d that Teague question!
What a bunch of Crap!
K.W.
March 12th, 2011
12:24 am
SMH. THE HAWKS NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER!
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
12:25 am
“In the second half it was like we forgot everything we did in the first half,”
“DuH”
Hey Hinrich, that’s what we been saying on these blogs for months now..The Hawks have a very low Basketball IQ. Just not smart ballers at all.. Josh Smith is unbelievable..This dude will never get it!!!!!!!!Just waive Marvin……………………..
Stick a fork in this bird!!!!!!!!!! The Hawks are toast….4-10 last 14 games with 17 to go…They have technically imploded!!! Sad…. Very sad for Hawks fans to watch and endure this crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotta feel for Hinrich! Left Washington to come to play with dunces…………………………………….
Najeh Davenpoop
March 12th, 2011
12:26 am
If he really cared that much about hard fouls, he would have presumably put in Etan Thomas like he did the other day. That explanation is so full of sh-t that I think he may have just forgotten that Teague plays for the Hawks and is trying to cover his ass.
Jae Evolution
March 12th, 2011
12:26 am
I wonder if Tom T. could transform the Hawks the way he transformed the Bulls…
From an 8th seed to possibly a 1st seed, now that is what I call progress.
Booo!
March 12th, 2011
12:26 am
Fire Larry Drew!
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
12:30 am
Ld hope you have packed your stuff??? Take Sund with ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kick Rocks…………………………….
ISO JJ= 243k per night!! Give the fans a refund dude………….You bore the heck out of us……………..
rusty
March 12th, 2011
12:30 am
As far as being soft ld your soft in the head
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
12:33 am
8 out of last 10 losses are by double digits. Its either Miami or Chicago in the 1st rd which means ONE AND DONE CLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
rusty
March 12th, 2011
12:33 am
Joe you are a complete failure. How can you sleep robbing all that money..?
Najeh Davenpoop
March 12th, 2011
12:33 am
I still can’t get over the complete stupidity of LD’s “explanation” on Teague. So basically, if the Hawks had just kept sending Rose to the free throw line (where he was 14/15) instead of giving up layups, LD would have been totally cool with it.
Nique's Revenge
March 12th, 2011
12:33 am
it’s okay, is there another phat party at joe’s house tonight??? oh yeaaaAaaAAhhh
calihawks
March 12th, 2011
12:34 am
now here come the fire drew’s
the last few years it been fire woody
lol.. are we sure its the coaches guys?
Nique's Revenge
March 12th, 2011
12:34 am
I like Joe. He’s a nice guy. But nice doesn’t win championships. Nice guys polish the trophy for the Champion.
Booo!
March 12th, 2011
12:36 am
Fire his AZZ now!
I just cant beleive the level of BS that iscoming out of this mans mouth!
Nique's Revenge
March 12th, 2011
12:37 am
calihawks, when the coach allows nonsense to continue, like josh hanging around the 3 point line, yes. when he doesn’t play a point guard at the point, yes. when he doesn’t realize the other team’s star can score at will and does nothing to stop it, yes
rusty
March 12th, 2011
12:38 am
No wonder woody was so dumb,he had you sitting next to him giving him advice
Ron J
March 12th, 2011
12:38 am
Even as a die hard Bulls fan, I realize that this Hawks team has way more talent than the Bulls. Why can’t they get it together?
It would take a guy like Doc Rivers to straighten this team out.
Booo!
March 12th, 2011
12:39 am
calihawks, Get rid of everyone not named Joe, Jeff, or Al!
I hope that satisfies you
Nique's Revenge
March 12th, 2011
12:39 am
get Sloan in there. clean up that garbage play real quick
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
12:43 am
give Joe a mop……………
Tremaine
March 12th, 2011
12:44 am
Clearly coaching is the biggest issue with this team.
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
12:46 am
no coach can fix this. This is way above the him…….Doc won like 22 games in 07. The fans wanted to run him outta town up there in Boston.. You need real NBA players to win in this league……Horses…………. Its a players league…
JSS
March 12th, 2011
12:46 am
This team is defense adverse… You guys keeps thinking that a coach can give them the desire… They need three guys willing to sacrifice their game like Powe, Artest, and Battier did for the larger good… Marvin could if he had a heart. Teague just has lost all confidence, and Jamal well, it has always been something like the last man in a leper colony! That leaves Wilkins, but has to see extended minutes… Sigh!
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 12th, 2011
12:48 am
lmao@drew’s comments and everybody’s on here.
yall boy said he thought about it but it wasnt the issue
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
12:48 am
Marvin had height, nothing else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A Total scrub…………………….
maavelous
March 12th, 2011
12:51 am
I, Marv the Maaavelous Magician of Roundball am too good for this team. I should be the fourth pillar in Miami. King James has nothing on Prince Williams.
drmaryb (*_-)
March 12th, 2011
12:58 am
Pollo Loco! (Drive Thru open 24 hrs) (painted area)
Can I get a soft taco, stuffed with chicken? (hawks)
Oh yeah! Can I get some hot-sauce too? (Jamal)
And, please hold the onions – they make me cry.
______________________
Ok! Mam, that’s , “The Dirty Bird” soft taco.
Would you like the combo?
It comes with two sides and a drink for $5.99.
______________________
What are your sides?
____________________
Twice stuffed mashed potatoes (marvin & zaza)
Sweet Peas (collins)
Dirty Rice (etan thomas)
Waffle Fries (joe)
Hot Dog (jamal)
Kami-kaze Smoothie (josh smith)
Minute Maid Lemonade (Teague)
Assorted Shooters (josh powell)
Sticky Bun (damien)
Slim Shady Shake (hinrich)
Mother’s Milk (it was not a bad pick)
Home Team Fries (brandon leak)
________________
And a Pepsi (fake fans)
“it’s not the real thing” – see Coke
_____________________
That’s My Hawks!
Christian
March 12th, 2011
1:04 am
I don’t really want to look ahead of things but during this offseason, the hawks should definetly focus on everything they’re doing wrong, like shot selections (mostly Josh Smith), Joe Johnson improving his shooting percentage, also trying to get more helpful players and lastly being a good defensive team
JSS
March 12th, 2011
1:05 am
“Minute Maid Lemonade (Teague)” Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
JSS
March 12th, 2011
1:07 am
@ 1:04AM
What is this “Ground Hogs Day?”
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
1:15 am
“Mother’s Milk (it was not a bad pick)” LOL.
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
1:17 am
LD is garbage
Man this is BS
WTF does this team do at halftime?
Trade this entire time sans Horford this offseason. Buy Joe out and sign Flip Murray. At least he’ll show heart.
This is BS. I waste 2.5 hours 35+ times a year to see this team play garbage. Garbage
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
1:18 am
Man that reactor is leaking over in Japan. They believe the meltdown has begun!! WOW………………..2012????? We still have 7.5 months to go……………………..
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
1:19 am
I’m so tired of this damn BS.
Joe has no heart. How are you a MAX player and struggle to score 20 freaking pts vs. Keith Bogans? What garbage. This guy should be called out by every news station in town. he’s swindling money from this franchise
FIRE WOODY
Progeny
March 12th, 2011
1:39 am
We really should have hired Dwayne Casey
Najeh Davenpoop
March 12th, 2011
1:43 am
Orlando lost at Golden State. It’s amazing how the Hawks keep getting breaks left and right (Perkins injury, Billups injury, Boozer injury, Orlando slumping, Miami slumping…) and yet they can’t even come close to taking advantage.
drmaryb (*_-)
March 12th, 2011
1:47 am
DeWayne Casey
Would not have made a difference.
No PG
No Center
No Superstar
No Money
No woman-
No cry
My milkshake is better than yours.
uga-brave
March 12th, 2011
2:00 am
nahej, sorry dude but josh has got to go.
how long to we have tolerate his inability to play off the ball defense.
how long do we have to tolerate a poward foward that has zero ability to play in the low posst.
how long till he can learn to dribble with his right hand.
how long dow we have to tolerate our poward foward floating around the arc.
how frickin long, with his pouting. he is a coach killer.
ask any g.m.
great defensive players deny the ball. smoove is only concerned about blocking shots. he is a absolute waste of the physical gifts he has.
P. Bull Terrier
March 12th, 2011
2:02 am
Joe Johnson: “…we are a jump-shooting team. If shots are falling then, great, we are rolling. But one through five, we all are jump shooters. That’s pretty much what it is.”
Can you imagine Dominique Wilkins saying, “we are a dunking team. If dunks are falling then, great, we are rolling. But one through five, we all are dunkers. That’s pretty much what it is.”
Or Magic Johnson saying, “we are a passing team. If passes are working then, great, we are rolling. But one through five, we all are passers. That’s pretty much what it is.”
‘Nique came into the league with hardly any skills but dunking the ball, but year after year he continued to add to his game and worked to become a better all around player. ‘Nique, Magic, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan,…those guys were never satisfied to simply be one dimensional, or pretty good. They wanted to be complete players. They wanted to be winners. The same can be said about Kobe Bryant and a few more of today’s star players,…
…but not Joe Johnson. No, Joe is a jump shooter.
If the shots are falling, then great. If not – Oh well.
Joe is still going to get paid. What does he care?
DJK
March 12th, 2011
2:04 am
What we really need is to start Teague and left Kurt finish @ least he can offer a change of pace. Second we all need to call out Josh for his poor decisions shooting and ball-handling. Joe for his approach of not earning that much money but even if he is struggling he should look like Ray Allen and go to the gym and shoot 300 shoots before the game to try and get out of the slump. (Jamal Crawford too) Marvin Williams needs to decide if he wants to attempt being a BBall pro or just continue going through the motions 25-82 games a year. And last but not least LD needs to not be more like Woody and let J Teague play it can’t be any worse than what we already have no transition points, no one pressuring the ball although Kurt tries, and only Smooth in the passing lanes which most times ends up with a turnover right back. Man up Hawks we only talk and blog because we care. SURE WOULD BE NICE IF YOU GUYS DID TOOOOOOOO!!!!! And oh yeah have to stop trading young talent guys also look tired every other good team is not wearing there players out all season(Miami is not a good team just has good players) Management needs to manage!!
bigeasy830
March 12th, 2011
2:08 am
You all wanted change, you were tired of Bibby, well you got it. You wanted a change from winning 50 games , improving each year for the last 5 yrs or so and advancing to the second round for a second straight yr. Well you got it. We won’t win 50 and we will be swept in the first round this year. You wanted Coach Woodson gone, he’s gone. But looks to me like he got all he could out of those players on this team. No one can win with this group of players. They layed down on Coach Woodson in the second round last year. they gave up in the second round, now they are laying down in the second half of the season.
Little Fawkers
March 12th, 2011
2:24 am
What this team needs….
1. New head coach
2. New players
3. New owners
That should do it.
DJK
March 12th, 2011
2:25 am
We also need better body language we use to look athletic now even when we make a mistake it looks like it is the end of the world. Stop looking like two-year olds when things don’t go your way this is the NBA it is supposed to be hard. If it was easy we would be doing it. MAN UP give the city something to feel good about have some pride!!!! Or if management is serious about building a winner it is time to make some real business decisions! But seriously please stop going through the motions. If we were not going to get any better we could have had a our young players getting better that only happens through playing remember those bad teams you guys were on Joe, Jamal, Josh, and Marvin it looks like we are headed back that way if there are no changes made from within!
Worldwide Clyde
March 12th, 2011
2:27 am
FIRE DREW
Worldwide Clyde
March 12th, 2011
2:30 am
* Did L.D. consider sending in Teague for a crack at slowing Rose’s slices to the rim?
“Thought about it but that to me that wasn’t the real issue at that point, him getting into the lane,” Drew said. “We did nothing with a physicality as far as taking any hard fouls. That was my thought process. Even when he was getting to the line, we did nothing about giving hard fouls. I don’t care who you are playing against, if you play that soft, you are going to have problems in the paint.”
SHAKING MY GOT DAM HEAD
Little Fawkers
March 12th, 2011
2:34 am
bigeasy830 – I hope we don’t even get in this year. What’s the point?
Worldwide Clyde
March 12th, 2011
2:35 am
I’m taking pre-sale orders for the official FIRE DREW t-shirt
Worldwide Clyde
March 12th, 2011
2:38 am
Time to start interviewing coaches for next year.
Little Fawkers
March 12th, 2011
2:40 am
Did anyone really expect us to have a good year when we signed no one in the off season, hired Woodys assistant as head coach and gave Joe Johnson all that money? Dang! This franchise is like 70’s Braves bad. The owner is gay and only cares about how many Chic fila ticket packages he sells at the lowlight factory. Next!
Worldwide Clyde
March 12th, 2011
2:40 am
Knowing the cheap azz Spirit Group they might hire Van Exel.
Worldwide Clyde
March 12th, 2011
2:46 am
*yawn*
Worldwide Clyde
March 12th, 2011
2:49 am
Give me Mookie, Steve Smith, and Mutombo
Dam the new school Hawks
Jae Evolution
March 12th, 2011
3:00 am
At least Woody controlled Smoove…LD letting this fool run wild out there.
cadi_atl
March 12th, 2011
3:34 am
MY FIRST TIME EVER I AM JUST MAD WITH THIS TEAM THOU THE MOST IN COACH HE NEEDS TO GOOOO GIVE UP OR SOMETHING URE DUMB OFFENSE AINT WORKING AND I BELIEVE THIS TEAM IS TOO GOOD TO LOOSE SO MUCH WE GOT PLAYERS I MEAN PRETTY GOOD PLAYERS TO LOOSE THIS MUCH MAN IF I WAS DREW I WILL QUIT MAN
cadi_atl
March 12th, 2011
3:38 am
WE TALKED ABOUT WOODY BUT AT LEAST WE HAD 3RD SEED LAST YEAR AND WE WON MORE GAMES THIS YEAR WE BE 6 OR WHO THE HELL KNOWS AND LOOSE IN A FIRST ROUND
Geemack
March 12th, 2011
4:54 am
drmaryb (*_-)
March 12th, 2011
12:58 am
Pollo Loco! (Drive Thru open 24 hrs) (painted area)
Can I get a soft taco, stuffed with chicken? (hawks)
Oh yeah! Can I get some hot-sauce too? (Jamal)
And, please hold the onions – they make me cry.
______________________
Ok! Mam, that’s , “The Dirty Bird” soft taco.
Would you like the combo?
It comes with two sides and a drink for $5.99.
______________________
What are your sides?
____________________
Twice stuffed mashed potatoes (marvin & zaza)
Sweet Peas (collins)
Dirty Rice (etan thomas)
Waffle Fries (joe)
Hot Dog (jamal)
Kami-kaze Smoothie (josh smith)
Minute Maid Lemonade (Teague)
Assorted Shooters (josh powell)
Sticky Bun (damien)
Slim Shady Shake (hinrich)
Mother’s Milk (it was not a bad pick)
Home Team Fries (brandon leak)
________________
And a Pepsi (fake fans)
“it’s not the real thing” – see Coke
_____________________
That’s My Hawks!
Funniest post I’ve seen since the “Day on the blog post” great stuff Dr. Mary. ROTFL.
Geemack
March 12th, 2011
5:06 am
The more I watch the Hawks.
The more I appreciate the greatness of a guy like Kobe Bryant.
Winning 5 championship still not enough for that guy.
RMikel58
March 12th, 2011
6:03 am
Hawks will be lucky if they even make it to the playoffs and secure that final spot. If they even made it i really dont wanna sit here and watch them get blown out by good teams. Ball hogs and statistic lovers. No decent anything.
They cant beat Chicago, Miami, Boston and Charlotte. How do you expect them to even get by in the 1st round? I can truely say that only Al Horford really tries out there and shows some heart.
So what do we have to look forward to seeing from the Hawks this season? Double digit blowouts. The only thing the Hawks get excited about is that pay check on friday. Coach is bout as bad as the players and i never understood why the Hawks never pursued Doc Rivers from Boston and buy out his contract.
Seems like the owners of the hawks dont care about winning the championship just as long as they fill the seats such as the case with the Braves years back.
Time Warner didnt spend money on the Braves after they took over, they only wanted the revenue from the sport and if they made the playoffs then fine ….that was a bonus.
This all starts with the owners…….. i dont think they really care about putting a team together to win it all such as Miami did, Boston, Lakers do year end and year out. Larry Drew isnt ready to coach misfits, self centered athletes that only care about themselves.
Joe Johnson shouldve been gone after last season. Hawks re-sign him and give him an inflated salary that at that price we could have went out and got alot better players at that price. He fizzles during playoffs, carries an attitude and cant lead a donkey to a watering hole.
Ive not heard once from the owners how serious they are about putting a team together to win the NBA. You hear Arthur Blank saying that dont you? Not the Hawks or Thrasher Owners making those kind of commitments. Ive totally given up on on the Hawks and Thrashers to do anything now or in the future with the owners at the helm.
Look at where Chicago was 5 years ago and where their at now. People this is about money 110% and greed and everyone has bought into it.
Quit going to the games and hoping…… Their serving us lolly pops on a stick and were only getting the stick. Focus on the Falcons and the Braves and put your money into something where hope is alive and success is possible.
RMikel58
March 12th, 2011
6:31 am
There are no leaders on the Hawks. Have you even heard 1 player stand up and get after guys for sub par performances? Kobe Bryant would….now thats leading. Can you imagine if i say “IF” Kobe was brought to Atlanta? The THUG mentality would be gone, the “self centeredness” would be gone, the Defense would improve and players would be brought out in the open by Kobe.
Kobe demands it from team mates every game. He pushes you to be better and he hates losing PERIOD! Not one Hawk has got up and said “I’m tired of losing by double digits” by mediocre teams. There is no PRIDE in any of the players. The Coaches have no idea how to improve the players out there. Lets face it Drew has no experience in coaching and atleast Woodson had heart.
Ya’ll begged him to get fired but in retrospect it was Joe Johnson complaining about Woodson to the owners and now Woodsons gone and Joe is still here. Coaches get tired of knowing that the Owners only care about money and not results so they dont care about coaching and winning.
Then the players quit listening to the coaches because they know the coaches dont care if they win or lose in the end and just want the money.
So theres no effort to go out and play hard every game because its all about MONEY. Kobe Bryant doesnt care about the money as much as he did when he was younger, Winning is his #1 priority now. We can all sit around and piont the finger at coaches and players but in the end………… it’s the MONEY.
Winning is for the Celtics, Lakers, Spurs, Bulls, Hornets and the Miami Heat. Until the Hawks are sold to a person like Arthur Blank we are just pissing in the wind about nothing. Winning comes from Owners and Management then you get a coach with a proven track record and sign players with great attitudes and their willing to win rather than worry about their statistics and contracts.
If you look at this and face reality you should know this is a Mirage and all they want is the profits the HAWKS generate and not what you think they should do to improve our chances on making the playoffs.
Used to be a Sport but its only about the “Green”.
big sam
March 12th, 2011
7:08 am
so….. do we think teague at the point would’ve stopped derrick rose now? come on ! so… do we think iso joe still works? come on ! the hawks have a good team. they have good players . none great . Problem1/ the hawks are a team of players that have great versitility, but no defined roles Problem2( by the way at least woody understood that and tried to keep josh and others in there lanes so everybody isnt trying to do each others job, which is why woody and Josh fought so much!) most of all and last which is truely first on my list great teams have an on the floor leader captain kirk is not that ! bibby is not that ! nor is teague chauncey is a point! derrick rose is a point! deron williams is a point! russel west brook is a point! rondo is a point! get the point!! ATLANTA HAWKS NEED AN ON THE FLOOR LEADER WHO BARKS THE SAME SENTIMENTS AS THE HEAD COACH! keeps the respect of his player in practice on the floor in games knows when to turn and turn it off and share the rock tells others when there on there own sh_t to either fall in line or get off the floor! it should come from the person whos got the rock the most in there hands! Joe is the highest paid supposedy the most talented. just about every night should have the most points and an obvious floor leader , not just another player on the team with a ball rotation offense. wheather Josh makes 3 pointers or not he should be scoring in the paint hes got rasheed wallace syndrome. evrybody is out of position now horford statistically is your best jump shooter on the team THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH DEFINED ROLES !!
Double Zero Eight
March 12th, 2011
7:17 am
The invisible man, Joe Johnson makes $8468 per minute.
The Hawks are:
a team in chaos
a team is disarray
in a frefall
bewildered
clueless
mediocre
Double Zero Eight
March 12th, 2011
7:19 am
Spelled “freefall” incorrectly on prior post.
Reggie
March 12th, 2011
7:41 am
Now where on THIS EARTH did this “we are a jump-shooting team” garbage…oops…I mean LIE come from when last year we were tied for 8th in the NBA in scoring in the paint with 43.3 points a game??? What players we added/subtracted during the off-season to validate this so-call change? We gave Joe Johnson that supa-dupa large contract…that’s it. Now do not get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong having big-men able to shoot from the outside AT TIMES, but camped outside during MOST offensive sets is not “NBA Playoffs Basketball”. I have to give Josh Smith (my favorite Hawk) a “pass” this past off-season because of his wedding, but I felt in previous off-seasons he, Marvin Williams and Joe Johnson could have work on low-post foot-work with Hakeem Olajuwon…since they are not comfortable in playing in the paint. Al Horford will go on the blocks and ask for the ball, but in previous years we did not have a PG that wasn’t capable in making those passes. Now we do have one in Kirk Hinrich, but the players still stand around the perimeter waiting for the ball. Again…this is NOT NBA Playoff Basketball. We will be one-and-done this playoffs, which is a step back from last season if we keep this up. And Joe Johnson needs to drive to the basket to draw fouls, just like all teams “go-to-guy” in the NBA, or is he now shell-shock from the left orbital bone fracture injury he had while with Phoenix ? If so, with all due respect, that is TOO MUCH money we are paying a pure jump shooter…TOO MUCH MONEY!
Bernard
March 12th, 2011
7:46 am
I believe this team has quit on LD!! It is time to bring in a no none sense coach, We need to new owners who care about the product and not just making a buck. This by far is one of the most disappointing seasons in a while. I am really tired of hoping this team will get there acts together. It is time to break this team up, trade Marvin and Josh in return for some players that have a desire to win and understand how to play the game.
As for as LD, its his fault when the team does not do what they did in the first half. Pull the starters if they are not going to do what he is telling them. I know ownership will not be happy with this, but someone has to get this teams attention.
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
7:48 am
THIS TEAM STINKS
CHOKE JOHNSON IS STEALING MONEY FROM US. 16 POINTS? CAN HE EVEN CRACK 20 ANYMORE?
FIRE DREW
FIRE DREW
FIRE DREW
FIRE DREW
FIRE DREW
Isaiah Rider
March 12th, 2011
7:49 am
Glad we got Heinrich,,,,,,he sure has made a difference……
Keith
March 12th, 2011
7:50 am
The Hawks are soft and the coach are letting them play soft meaning the coach is soft too! I would rather see some agressive play and some hard fouls then this BS. Josh can jump out the Gym, he can block shots, but his @$$ is throwing up shots from the three point line, and all he do is wine, he is never agreesive and he never is physical all he do is whine, he is soft. Joe……….smh, he is soft. For more reasons then one they should be called the “Atlanta Punks”
Keith
March 12th, 2011
7:50 am
I meant whine
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
7:54 am
LD has lost this teams weeks ago………………………………………………………….Pack your bags dude…………
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
7:58 am
The whole Hawks squad are all playing like Marvina!! They say one rotten apple will spoil the whole barrel?????
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
7:58 am
JOSH= I WILL NEVER GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
8:01 am
MARVIN HAD 2 POINTS AND 1 REBOUND LAST NIGHT. BUT OF COURSE THE COACHES WILL NEVER CALL HIM OUT
chris
March 12th, 2011
8:02 am
We need dwight howard! ! Come home dwight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
8:02 am
LD IS A WUSSY
WILL NEVER CHANGE THE LINEUP
WILL NEVER HOLD ANYONE ACCOUNTABLE
HOW DO U START A HALF AND FORGET EVERYTHING THAT’S GONE WELL FOR THE TEAM?
WTF DO THESE GUYS DO DURING HALFTIME?
Trojan
March 12th, 2011
8:04 am
Teague played for 2 minutes?
Larry is simply winging it. We need a drastically different coach. We need a change of direction in management. We need a new mix of players. Blow it up.
Atleast we don’t have to listen to Sund talk about our core. We have a rotten core.
chris
March 12th, 2011
8:04 am
Bench marvin start twin at center
Reggie
March 12th, 2011
8:07 am
JeJe – I did not catch much of the Hawks game on NBA TV, but historically this team freezes out Marvin Williams. He only gets the ball with a couple of secs left on the shot clock after JJ or J-Craw is stuck without a clean-open-jumper. Not taking up for Williams, because he still won’t hit the paint waiting for the rest of the team bad shots, but they don’t look at Marvin…not at all.
chris
March 12th, 2011
8:08 am
Im seriously gettin aggravated with the play of joe johnson he jus does not have what it takes get us wins on a cosistent basis over the good nba teams
Ms. Jones
March 12th, 2011
8:08 am
Dr. Mary 12:58 post
lol! In a time like this, Hawks fans need the comic relief. Thanks
drmaryb (*_-)
March 12th, 2011
8:12 am
Fight Night!
The only fight we ever had on the court?
Marvin “Butt” Williams -vs- Shawne “big mouth” Williams.
The only fight we ever had in the locker room?
Josh “scrub” Powell. -vs Larry “coach” Drew.
The only fight we had in the court was?
Atlanta Spirit “killer” Group -vs Steve “erkle” Belkin.
The only fight we had in the stands was?
Section 303 -vs- Joe “pay-day” Johnson.
_____________________
Show them what they won – Monty!
Ta – Dah! A Brand New Beat Machine!
(confetti falling from the rafters)
Oh wait! Something is flying in the arena! What is it?
It’s a bird! It’s a plane! No, it’s a fan! It’s a man! It’s … It’s … It’s a:
Fan – Man! WOW! (In bob rathbun’s voice) I haven’t seen this since the guy flew into the ring on “Iron” Mike Tyson fight night on Pay-Per-View!
Can you believe it Dominque? No Bob! I thought it was “Balloon Boy”!
No Nique! This is the Pepsi Generation! Balloon Boy is The Fan Man’s son! – Son! His dad was “The Real Thing!”
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(In bob rathbun’s voice) …
At least Coach Mike was old school, like “Iron” Mike.
When he was losing? He would head-butt and bite off ears.
Today’s players just don’t care that much, Nique. These are not your Father’s Hawks. This is the Pepsi Generation. What happened to the game we loved so much? These players run like their “Pants on the Ground!” They now dance to The Beat of another drummer. Hell! They even got their own “Beat Machines” it’s just computerized noise now, nobody plays instruments or sing anymore, they sample old hits and water it down.
Players don’t dance no more, all they do is this:
Do The Dougie! Teach me how to Dougie?
Nique: (oh bob, you got to see these New Hawks do the dougie at The Velvet Room.) 1 – 8 and to a man, we got the ‘nimbers” to win this game – we just need a bench to put us over the top!
Atlanta Fan
March 12th, 2011
8:13 am
New owners first them dump Sund and go from there
chris
March 12th, 2011
8:13 am
U believe when we fired woody we have revamp the coaching staff its basically like we still have woody as our coach we dont have a player like lebron or kobe to make a bad coach (ld) look good
drmaryb (*_-)
March 12th, 2011
8:16 am
OK! Which Hawks player was in the visitor’s arena shooting jumpers till midnight last night? I mean, they’re ALL jump shooters – right?
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
8:16 am
NO ONE ON THIS TEAM COMMITS HARD FOULS
NO ONE GETS TECHNICAL FOULS
NO ONE IS A LEADER ON THIS TEAM
NO ONE WILL RETALIATE AFTER A HARD FOUL AND DO SOMETHING TO SHOW WE’RE NOT WUSSIES (LIKE COMMITTING A HARD FOUL ON THE OTHER END)
NO ONE WANTS TO BE IN THE POST
NO ONE IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE
NO CENTER
NO BENCH
NO MONEY
NO GM
NO OWNERSHIP
NO COACH
FIRE LD
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
8:17 am
THIS ISNT AN EMOTIONAL RESPONSE TO LAST NIGHT’S LOSS IF EVERYTHING I SAY IS 100% TRUE
chris
March 12th, 2011
8:18 am
The hawks jus suck thats all to it
Puzzled
March 12th, 2011
8:19 am
JJ, a rut is a “grave with the end kicked out.”
chris
March 12th, 2011
8:26 am
We mite as well start zaza at center etan at pf damien wilkins at sf and 2 guys of the street to play the 2 and point for us at least we no those guys will show some heart
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
8:26 am
Reggie:
“JeJe – I did not catch much of the Hawks game on NBA TV, but historically this team freezes out Marvin Williams. He only gets the ball with a couple of secs left on the shot clock after JJ or J-Craw is stuck without a clean-open-jumper. Not taking up for Williams, because he still won’t hit the paint waiting for the rest of the team bad shots, but they don’t look at Marvin…not at all.”
Well that doesn’t explain how he is 6″9 and GOT ONE REBOUND LAST NIGHT
Joe is the strongest SG in the league and got FOUR REBOUNDS
PATHETIC
chris
March 12th, 2011
8:28 am
Thats are best bet
chris
March 12th, 2011
8:30 am
We dont have any tough ever grew up in da wealthy communites
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
8:37 am
17 games to go LD. I guess the beat downs will continue… we did not have to wait for the Plalyoffs? PLAYOFFS????????????
Waive Marvin.. He is totally useless on the floor………………..Give him a mop…
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
8:39 am
If I played with Marvin, I would ignore him to because he can’t play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peter
March 12th, 2011
8:45 am
Hey they are a lazy Jump shooting team with a low basketball IQ !
Marvin Williams is a so so player, and the Spirit ownership has a lower basketball IQ !
Please who would even want Teaque, if he wasn’t in an Atlanta uniform ?
HA HA HA..Hawks….. of course they don’t need a legitimate center !
Reggie
March 12th, 2011
8:54 am
JeJe…it does explain why he’s 6′9″ and got only one rebound. As I stated above he doesn’t hit the offensive boards for possible offensive put-backs since the team in general only passes him the ball when it shot clock is under 5 secs. Joe Johnson hits the boards because he can hog the ball for another 22 secs if he grabs the rebound. Again, I am NOT taking up for Marvin Williams, but he can create offensive on his on by hitting the offensive boards for baskets/free throws. He might FINALLY earn some early-shot-clock touches. I am probably more sick of the organization drafting him rather than selecting Deron Williams, Chris Paul…or even Raymond Felton.
Josh "No handle" Smith
March 12th, 2011
8:56 am
Josh smith lost the game last night with a series of bad shots and turnovers in the 3rd. He destroyed all the offensive momentum with his garbage shots from the perimeter. I swear the guy thinks he is LeBron. He needs to play defense and be athletic and leave the ball handling, decision making, and most importantly the outside shot to someone else. Someone needs to tell Josh that the Hawks have a ton of players who can stand outside and shoot. Josh makes about 1 out of 4 so he thinks he’s good at it. Stay in the post! Be athletic! Play D and rebound! Check your ego! You are Kenyon martin and not Lebron!
doc
March 12th, 2011
8:59 am
DMB @ 12:58 may have the post of the year until she says something else. very apropos.
The Game Has Changed
March 12th, 2011
9:05 am
Everybody get off my team. We gonna be okay. J.Smith hurt us last night with the turnovers and jump shots. We should have kept Woodson. But for all of yall who wanted change, yall got what you asked for. That goes for getting rid of Bibby as well. We need him. Teague is not that good and Hinrich is over-rated. And why do yall want us to trade Joe Johnson, Stop hating because he is rich and yall not.
Einsteindawg
March 12th, 2011
9:10 am
Who is the worst BB coach in Atlanta…Hewitt or Drew? And, who makes the most money?
Reggie
March 12th, 2011
9:10 am
“You are Kenyon martin and not Lebron!”…..OUCH!!! He’s a much better outside shooter than K-Mart, but I can’t agree with you more about Josh playing in the paint. That’s where he’s needed. He’s far too athletic to hang outside waiting on a jumper. That was well said….
Peter
March 12th, 2011
9:21 am
For all the Marvin Fans……..I saw him at a Pets Mart in Sandy Springs one day and thought……….Gosh does this guy even lift weights ? He looks as soft as my girlfriend !
I would say all should thank the Atlanta Spirit…they picked the GM, who them assembled this team.
For years I have been saying where is a legit center ?
First round draft choice for Teague ?
Low budget coach, and now they gave away the opportunity to grow for a non caring JJ.
The Hawks won’t do anything for years and years… PATHETIC is the only real way to describe this !
drmaryb (*_-)
March 12th, 2011
9:35 am
Pollo Loco (Drive Thru open 24 hrs) painted area:
New Sides:
Locks and Bagels (etan thomas)
Triple Stack (all beef steak)* (al horford) $1.49 up charge
Grey Goose (in a suit)* (larry drew)
Chicken Nuggets (no sauce) (ASKG)
A Stiff Paper Drinking Straw (hilton armstrong)
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JeJe
March 12th, 2011
9:38 am
ASG is paying Marvin Williams 8 million a year to put up 2 points and 1 rebound
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
9:41 am
LOL @ Marvin being seen at a Petsmart. Was he buying a Spongebob toy for his Shih Tzu?
Big Daddy
March 12th, 2011
9:46 am
For all of you screaming that Josh and Al should go down low and not outside, think about how often they would get the ball. Down low they get the ball about 1 out of every 12 trips down the floor because every one else is jacking up long jumpers and with that comes long rebounds, which the other team gets and they are off and running. This is a coaching problem. The coaches have to enforce the ball goes in low.
Last night was a tale of two teams wearing the same uniforms. In the first half there was ball movement and challenges to the rim. If you watched the game, think about how much the movement changed once Jamal came in. Remembering that Kirk played most of the first half but got into foul trouble early in the 3rd qtr. Once Chicago realized that the point was not going to make the move inside the defense clogged the middle and the Hawks could not make outside shots. Every knows that now and they are going to keep clogging the middle until they start making outside shots or come up with screen plays where a lane is open to the basket and players can make that move to the rim.
drmaryb (*_-)
March 12th, 2011
9:48 am
I Got Jokes!
Reggie
March 12th, 2011
9:52 am
Actually the wonderful ASG are paying Marvin Williams $7,262,500 this season for his 10.1 PPG and 5.1 RPG. of hard work this season. It doesn’t get any better than this…unless you are Eddy Curry!
dave
March 12th, 2011
9:59 am
I miss Woody.
dave
March 12th, 2011
10:03 am
“time to see what we’re made of”? funny, we can all see what they’re made of already.
STRETCH
March 12th, 2011
10:05 am
Qoute from Etan Thomas’ blog on Hoopshype:
“The other night we played a home game against the Lakers and once again there were more fans for the away team than for the home team. Why is that? I’ve never seen anything like this before. There were more Laker jerseys and colors than Hawk jerseys and colors. MVP chants for Kobe, the whole nine. I thought I was going to hear Purp and Yellow next.”
Question for Etan;
When are you getting off the bench and help rebound and box out???
Reggie
March 12th, 2011
10:08 am
Big Daddy…While I do understand your points, last year we were tied for 8th in the NBA with 43.6 PPG in the paint This year they are 27th. We now have a PG that will pass them the ball in the paint…for even more points. Scoring in the paint and converting free throws is NBA Playoff Basketball, laying around shooting jumpers.
Sautee
March 12th, 2011
10:11 am
From the last blog:
The Game Has Changed
March 12th, 2011
9:11 am
“YO Daffy Duck. How is Joe overated when he has averaged 20,5,5 the last five years. The only other shooting guard to do that is Kobe.”
This is a flat out lie. Joe has NEVER averaged 5 rebounds a game for the Hawks and the only season he DID in his entire career was for Phoenix in 04-05.
And he’s only averaged over 5 assists for 3 of the last 5 years. And BTW, he’s not even close to averaging 20ppg this year.
Here’s the link to the truth about Joe’s stats:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/joe_johnson/career_stats.html
As Najeh said, you must be Joe’s Grandma.
Sautee
March 12th, 2011
10:15 am
drmaryb,
“I Got Jokes!”
So do the Hawks.
NorcalHawk
March 12th, 2011
10:17 am
Can’t believe Hawks still talk like their just going through a bad spell (JJ: “we just have to get through this little rut we’re in”). Guys, take a look at the quality of your play the last several weeks and be honest: it’s a complete mess. Whenever we score more than 90 points now, it’s an offensive explosion.
Runnin With The Dawgs
March 12th, 2011
10:21 am
We get rid of Bibby and then we go on a four game losing streak. This was a critical time in the season to make a change like that. As bad as we’re playing right now, we may not even make the playoffs
terrell
March 12th, 2011
10:30 am
What a bunch of selfish misfits. Fat lady just hit the stage.
doc
March 12th, 2011
10:32 am
stretch, when you ask etan, dont forget to remind him the hawks players dont care about the fans. guess he didnt get word.
Big Daddy
March 12th, 2011
10:43 am
Reggie, last year Smoove made a commitment to not shoot long jumpers. Bibby fed him the ball and he responded. This year there may a couple of things that changed the dynamic. With the coaching change, new offense and more movement with the ball on the outside, there is more of a tendency to for outside shots than pushing the ball inside. The other is that I believe that Josh believes there is going to be an effort in the draft or off season to get a legit center in and that will mean that Al moves to the 4 position. If that happens, Josh either gets traded, goes to the bench or move to the 3 slot. You don’t have many SF’s whose post-up are their strong points. So, he is making an effort to fit in at that position. That way he gets to stay and doesn’t end up on a 20 win team.
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
10:46 am
This team stinks
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
10:46 am
This isn’t even a team – it’s just a compilation of one-on-one players/jumpshooters who completely lack any heart or leadership skills
joey
March 12th, 2011
10:49 am
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JEWELL ROLLEN
March 12th, 2011
10:55 am
KEEP ON JACKING THEM JUMPERS SMOOVE! FIRST ROUND PLAY OFF LOSS IS WORKING AGAIN!
loy
March 12th, 2011
10:59 am
Slimjr you hit the nail on the head about the basketball knowledge is team shows. Marvin can”t finish at the basket. He is not consistent with jump shots. Joe like dribbing in traffic why other watch in not trying to get open. I dont know why Josh Smith is not getting the ball in the post at lease 10 time a game. He is a good passer. After watching Kirk Hinrich these pass game his basketball I Q is high. Hawk managers you need basketball knowledge. Marvin Williams dont have it and Joe is not worth the price. I will keep watching every game but you need smart players an a smart coach.
tony
March 12th, 2011
11:00 am
Stop complaining about the way this team performs. Everyone should know by now whats wrong with this team.
TALK SOLUTION!
1) HIRE BILL LAIMBEER
2) Sign David West this offseason(Bench JS until some1 ask for his services)
3) Do not resign JC(I like him but we can’t afford to keep him)
4) I’m hoping like heck Keith Benson-c and Darius Moore-pg will be around in the 2nd round. Their stocks are steaded rising so they probably won’t.
After we get rid of JS I hope JJ is next because he disrespect the fans and he’s an arrogant humanbeing.
“That doesn’t bother me, and I hope it doesn’t bother anyone in this locker room,” Johnson said. “It’s about us in this locker room. We could care less if [fans] showed up.”
Remember this JJ. Without the fans you probably will be flipping burgers somewhere or freeloading.
joey
March 12th, 2011
11:00 am
the hawks if they pay with heart and work their butt off for the whole game they can beat any team but thats their problem they have no heart, the only time i saw them have heart was when the beat the bulls in atlanta 2 weeks ago al horford, they need to pound the ball in the paint and then kick it out to open jump shooters>>
Grandad
March 12th, 2011
11:03 am
I’ve had it with Joe & his merry band of jump shooters !
My last two rants have been devoured by the blog gobbler,
so I’ll keep this short. I’m wondering if you can rip Joe on
this blog and get away with it. we’ll see.
joey
March 12th, 2011
11:07 am
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julius
March 12th, 2011
11:12 am
FIRE THE SORRY ASS HEAD COACH AND GET A REAL ONE LET GO OF THAT SORRY ASS SOFT MARVIN WILLIAMS TRADE JOE I CANT BELIEVE THIS MAN GOT TOP MONEY AND HE DOESNT SHOW IT DUMP ZAZA AND FAT ASS COLLINS AND GET A TRUE CENTER AND MAYBE THIS TEAM WILL GO PAST THE SECOND ROUND.
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
11:15 am
TONY, WE CAN’T SIGN DAVID WEST. WE’RE GONNA BE RIGHT AT THE CAP I’M SURE.
SMOOVE + JOE + HORF + HINRICH + DUCK + ZAZA = A LOT OF MONEY
11 + 20 + 12 + 9 + 8 + 5 = 65m OR SO?
tony
March 12th, 2011
11:21 am
Hey julius, I think we are stuck with MW for life. Let’s hope the next hc can find ways to use him effectively.
Grandad
March 12th, 2011
11:25 am
I agree with LD the Hawks are softer than Charmin.
[although not quite as functional]
Back in my day before “PC” they called ‘em “sissies”.
Also Don Meyer:
“Don’t whine, don’t complain, don’t make excuses”
[espy winner / standing on one leg & fighting cancer]
Joe Johnson:
“we’re jump shooters” / not basketball players !
LD is not the ”main” problem Joe Johnson ”is” !
tony
March 12th, 2011
11:29 am
JeJe, I think West’s salary is lest than 9 mil and JC is around10 mil. We just have to eliminate JC.
Grandad
March 12th, 2011
11:30 am
My Summer 2011
G-dad’s Trade 0′ the Week;
Joe to the Clips
For
Chris Kaman & Mo Williams
booo!
March 12th, 2011
11:34 am
Start jeff joe pape al and jason
The Game Has Changed
March 12th, 2011
11:43 am
Tony- On what planet do you spend most of your time? Jamal was the only player that showed up in the playoffs last year. Not to mention he is about to win 6th man of the year again. Now you talking about bringing in Lambier. Get Real. We already made one mistake by getting rid of Woodson.
The Game Has Changed
March 12th, 2011
11:45 am
There are 30 teams in the league and the Hawks have a better record than 20 of them. Leave my team out of your mouths. We may not be the Lakers but we are not the Cavaliers.
K-Dogg
March 12th, 2011
11:50 am
I hate to say i told you so but i did when it came to this rostor; I like Kurt as the PG for next year although i hate we did not keep Jordan C and include Teague in the trade but owners hear me and hear me well!!!! “This summer we have to and i mean have to trade eitehr Joe, Josh or Big Al. We have to get a big a true center and move one this team has hit its celing and will not grow and get better like the Pistions who you guys are thinking they could become!!! These 3 still have good value in NBA circle but that can change quick. Move one of them while we still have a chance and we will be left with a good NBA point guard. Two borderline all-stars for 4 more years and a true center ie Chris K from the clippers and anotehr good role player from them like Foye!!!!!! This has to be done this summer!!! Pull the plug on this its even starting to look like the players know that its over with this team!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on owners and GM’s do what you are paid to do!!!!!!!!!!
Not Sund
March 12th, 2011
11:50 am
It’s time for Hawks fans to start wearing bags over their head!!
The Game Has Changed
March 12th, 2011
11:52 am
Once again, Joe Johnson is a top 7 shooting guard in the league out of 70. If someone offered you 20 million a year, would you take it? Or would you worry about what people say who dont even like the Hawks?
K-Dogg
March 12th, 2011
11:55 am
“The game has changed” you must have been a C student then all your life if your cool with your squad being like this every year then thats on you but as for the fans that spend money to support this crap we all know we have the peices to be alot better and maybe one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the L not the 5th or 6th best now team in the east. Its going to get worst before it would get better bc we banking on this team growing together and getting better like the old Pistions that won it all but they are not dog they have maxxed out so we can eitehr stay on this course or get better you decide!!!!!!
The Game Has Changed
March 12th, 2011
11:57 am
@K-Dogg- What team is in the buisness of trading All-Stars? You joking right? C. Kahman may be a center but what has he won? If you gonna get rid of someone, get rid of the players that are not productive. Like Marvin and Pachulia. Not the leaders in every statistical category. We are a playoff team not a rebuilding team.
Runnin With The Dawgs
March 12th, 2011
12:07 pm
I agree with Grandad. No show Joe needs to go!
Gamer
March 12th, 2011
12:11 pm
All-Star players set tone for their team.
Derrick Rose, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant and others players who are regarded as ALL-STARS set tone for their team.
J.J. MUST SET TONE FOR HIS TEAM FROM START TO FINISH OF A GAME. HE MUST KNOW WHEN TO PASS THE BALL AND WHEN TO SCORE. PREFERRABLY AT THE RIM OR ON FLOATER.
J.J. IS TOO BIG NOT TO FINISH INSIDE IN TRAFFIC….
JOSH SMITH AND OTHER BIG PLAYERS MUST ROLL TO BASKET MORE WHEN J.J HAVE THE BALL. NOT STAND AT 3pt. ARC.
OKAY, LD INSTALL SOME FLUID OFFENSIVE PLAYS…
WHAT’S UP WITH ZAZA TAKEN QUICK JUMP-SHOTS EARLY IN SHOT-CLOCK.
WHERE IS JEFF TEAGUE GAME MINUTES? WHERE IS HIS CONSTANT AND CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT?
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 12th, 2011
12:30 pm
“…Thought About It”
tony
March 12th, 2011
12:32 pm
@The Game Has Changed
JS got to GO! If that means getting rid of JC in the process so be it. You say JC played well in the playoffs last yr. WRONG! The guy shot 36%. I was very disappointed with his performance.
Did you watch Laimbeer play? The man was a player and a coach on the floor. His teammates had the upmost respect for him because he knew how to get his point across. Without Laimbeer I doubt they win those championships. I believe Laimbeer will win a championship with the team that hires him. I hope that team is the Hawks.
What’s your SOLUTION?
Grandad
March 12th, 2011
12:54 pm
T.G.H.C.
Joe does not lead in every stat category.
Josh is better all -`round than Joe.
The Hawks can’t / don’t rebound.
The Hawks can’t /don’t defend the rim.
The Hawks need size.
Not *fake size.
Real size.
*[fake size = 6-7 & 6-8 guys listed @ 6-9 & 6-10]
We need some true 7 ftrs.
Also we need some basketball players not jump shooters.
Joe’s words.
So in conclusion;
Trade Joe for a 7 ft basketball player.
There.
rusty
March 12th, 2011
12:57 pm
I would not bring any good rookies or good vets here as long as ld is here,why bother.jj &ld is the cancer on this team
Grandad
March 12th, 2011
12:59 pm
T.G.H.C. ….. Oh Yeah !
So in conclusion;
Trade Joe for a 7 ft basketball player.
The…..^…..above…..^…..=…..Joe…for…Kaman !
hawks_4_life
March 12th, 2011
1:01 pm
OK HAWKS, NEXT SUNDAY IM DRIVING 3 HRS TO SEE YOU BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF THE PISTONS…..GET UR CHI TOGETHER.
hawks_4_life
March 12th, 2011
1:02 pm
Grandad
JJ for Kaman and Aminu
kaminari
March 12th, 2011
1:03 pm
I wonder why we even care. I’m in a country with the ground shaking like crazy, people dying and missing all over. But I still find time to watch a crappy display, an inferior product. I guess I wanted my mind taken off of everything. Yet here I watch my hometown team lose again, and lose badly. It was a terrible display. But the interesting thought I had creeping into my brain in the 3rd quarter, was that there’s no one to blame for their misery. I have blamed the coach, the 120 million-dollar man, the lazy and terrible jump shooter in a 6′9″ man’s body, the clumsy and delicate starter who probably wouldn’t have picked himself 2nd overall in a two-man draft. I would basically blame everybody but Al. But no. I realized the Hawks are just a bad team. Why blame players who can’t do more than what they’re already doing. So I won’t. I don’t know why I hadn’t seen it earlier.
hawks_4_life
March 12th, 2011
1:04 pm
Run the offense through Al, give him more touches. He had eight shots total last night. Are you kidding me? He is the most consistent player we have but the system is not working to exploit that.
hawks_4_life
March 12th, 2011
1:05 pm
Kaminari you care because you are a fan and it blows when you know there is no hope.
atlgent
March 12th, 2011
1:06 pm
Ok Gentlemen and Ladies, let’s revisit something here. I was truly not a fan of Woodson. However, I have noticed that he kept the playes in a position of strength, TOTAL strength! LD is giving the players opportunity to take the strengths of their game and evolve with them but the results are are ruining team cohesiveness and scoring ability as a whole.
Basically, as he allows Horford and Smith to move further from the basket offensively, it severely limits the offensive rebounds because when shots are taken there are NO Hawks in the vicinity of the paint. Also, because Josh is now a small? forward, defensively, he is further from the basket as the opponents shoot and drive to the basket. Horford also has moved further from the paint defensively.
Other coaches and teams are able to take advantage of that because in the past, the mobility and quickness of Horford and Smith against opposing PF’s and C’s were a strength. Now its a liability because Horford is usually has less mobility and quickness than the upper tier PF’s. Same issues with Josh. So the Hawks have subtracted a strength and created a weakness.That being said, MENTALLY Josh is seeing himself as a small forward ALWAYS when he is on the floor and Horford views himself as a Power forward now MENTALLY. In essencein the creation of their new roles, each has lost his interior toughness THROUGHOUT the game. In my opinion, Josh has always been tougher on the glass than Horford anyways and thats no shot at Horford!
To be continued….
O'Brien
March 12th, 2011
1:10 pm
DMB,
Despite our shortcomings, what gets a lot of fans riled up is the lack of effort. If the Hawks compete, and give 110% every game, and still lose to a better Lakers team, and still lose to a better Buuls team…so be it.
But to lose the way they do (over and over again) is disturbing.
Najeh,
That LD explanation made no sense at all. And even if it did make sense, the fact that Rose wasnt getting the hard fouls means it was time to try something different.
And given the way Kurt Thomas handled himself against Horford in the Bucks-Hawks playoff series, wouldnt it have made more sense to sign Kurt Thomas instead of Etan?
I think LD needs to make a move. Start Jeff Teague. That way, the starters can compensate for Teague’s (lack of) offense, and Hinrich can play with Jamal and help offset Jamal’s defense.
The Game Has Changed
March 12th, 2011
1:12 pm
@Tony- I said Crawford was the only one to show up. That has nothing to do with his FG%. Bill Laimbeer was one of my favorite players of all time. But that doesnt mean it would translate to these players. If they played the way he played they would get suspended every game.LOL. I feel we need to get rid of the worse players first. Marvin and Pachulia are garbage but they get minutes. Josh ticked me off last night, but I think he is better than most SF in the league. Bibby still needs to be here. He was not the problem. We needed a center. Maybe this offseason that will be the goal and also resigning JC
kaminari
March 12th, 2011
1:12 pm
hawks_4_life, you seem to care too. I guess I’m gonna keep watching and hoping they get better. Miracles do happen sometimes. 21. He got us to 57 and very very close once.
Not Sund
March 12th, 2011
1:14 pm
Kidding aside, like it or not this J.J.’s team. We might wish that it were Al’s but it’s not. When J.J. announces to the world that we are a jump shooting team, does it occur to you that he is signaling that L.D. has made them a jump shooting team and maybe just maybe J.J. doesn’t like it.
Look at how they are playing, they’re are not even trying to do the things insde that we have seen them do in the past. I’m telling you, the guys are saying we don’t want this jump shooting system. Just a thought.
Also, L.D. is already in survival mode. Instead of giving guys roles and playing eight or nine guys, he’s doing he scared Woody thing of primarily playing six guys.
At the end of the day, what happens in the playoffs is all that matters for this team.
Double Zero Eight
March 12th, 2011
1:15 pm
Correction: Joe Johnson only makes $5081.00 per minute.
My point is, for that kind of money he should pretend to
have some emotion, and show some leadership. Take some
acting lessons if necessary.
The Game Has Changed
March 12th, 2011
1:19 pm
@Atlgents- Well said about Al and JS moving to the perimeter. But that has to do with that garbage motion offense. It takes the ball out of JJ hands. This new offense has him out of rhythm. But I still feel we can beat Orlando in the second round. They having just as much trouble as we are.
I MUS WRITE
March 12th, 2011
1:39 pm
No Comments on LD the man is who i thought he was … ..A CHEAP replace for Woodson, This team is a little better offensively because of the ball movement but they are definitely not the same team defensively.
I hate see’n JJ in a Hawks uniform -mainly because he is not producing and because his salary will get larger every season, which handicaps the team. His game has fallen off big time.
Its time to stop with the core crap this team is going nowhere fast…… Horford can stay but everybody else is trade bait this summer.
The fans deserve better than theze sorry azz owners. Wheres Ted turner when u need him
KABOOM-The sound of this team being dismantled come July 1 2011
Horford has a nice shot but he needs to post up more, with our bigs on the perimeter firing away it shouldnt be a suprise that we are a bad rebounding team.
Horford doesnt wanna see Kurt Thomas LOL Thomas is old but he is still servicable and a good defender-Couldnt understand why we wasted time on Joe Smith last year -should have signed KT
cp
March 12th, 2011
1:42 pm
smdh@LD. So he didn’t think Jamal not being able to stay in front of D Rose was not a problem? When your coach says things like that its easy to see why this team plays the way it does….Woodson had to go but so did many of these guys on the roster. When a team that hasn’t won anything quits on their coach you dont bring them all back as if it didn’t happen. Woodson wasn’t the only problem. They should have hired a whole new staff and shipped some guys out of here. Marvin must have some pictures of the owners because there is no reason this dude still starts… I thought they played better when Teague was starting. He was playing some good defense and the ball movement was a lot better. Start Teague and Zaza because at this point it couldn’t hurt.
hawks_4_life
March 12th, 2011
1:43 pm
Kaminari he sure did, I miss those days. We had a legit superstar, media attention and legitimate ballers. I just feel this team needs to focus more around Al and less JJ and Josh. Not saying Al can be our superstar but I think we need to make him our go to guy. He is consistent when he gets his shots, has the heart and wants to win.
O'Brien
March 12th, 2011
1:43 pm
It is clear trading Bibby did not rattle the cages, because that was a move that had to be made (given Bibby’s struggles).
If LD really wants to rattle the cages, and get the players fired up (one way or the other)..strip Josh, Al and JJ of their captaincy. This team has lacked leadership for years, and (imo) this year is no different. I think Al could be a good captain if he was the only one, but I think JJ and Josh make it tough (not necessarily their fault) on Al to take full reins. Everybody still looks up to JJ for leadership (although he basically leads by example), and Josh is a kamikaze, so you never know what to expect from him.
Name one captain. Kirk Hinrich. He has not been a part of this culture, so maybe he will be able to help facilitate change. He can call the plays on the floor, and when guys get jumper happy, he can get on them (like a captain should). Right now, he is still the new guy, and there are 3 captains, so chances are he wont feel free to speak up the way he wants to.
Is it drastic? Sure. Would it be a sign of panic? Maybe. But nothing else seems to be working, so why not? And if the players rebel, then that lets Rick know who he needs to trade this off-season.
Comments? Feedback?
hawks_4_life
March 12th, 2011
1:43 pm
On a different not it feels good not stay up til 1am to watch a game. Thats right im temporarily back on the east coast.
This Is Madness
March 12th, 2011
1:54 pm
You can’t blame the coach for players being soft. You either have enough toughness/heart to knock a PG on his ass who keeps getting easy layups or you don’t. Take the tech or get ejected but don’t sit back and keep taking it. Where’s the frustration on defense? If you force a team to take long jumpers and they keep knocking them down then fine, but how many PGs do we have to watch blow by the first defender for easy layups before someone on this Hawks team grows a pair and puts an elbow in somebody’s throat? We need at least one guy whose primary goal is too break people’s balls and frustrate the other team – Rodman style if necessary.
We also have too many ball handlers. Get the ball to Hinrich early and let him run the offense. Surely he’d get these guys to stop posting up around the 3 point line and running those stupid ISOs even when they see the game is going downhill quickly.
Has anyone seen LD get in anybody’s face during the game. I’d love to see a little tyrant come out of him at some point. He never seems concerned until it’s waaaay too late (post-game press conference).
UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
phil
March 12th, 2011
2:09 pm
This team just stinks….
rusty
March 12th, 2011
2:14 pm
We can’t run our offense thru jj. We need jt tonstart & handle the ball & let kh get min @pg & sg. Jt has to force the pace of the game & shouldn’t defer to anyone,probably lt wouldn’t allow this.hell he will not let him play at all. This team has to start playing a hell of a lot more aggressive on defense.jj sets such a bad example,i’ve so often seen him back on the fast break not even trying to stop the offensive player. By bing physical I don’t mean take there heads off like zazza does. This league permits a certain amount of physicality which we never apply. More typical is like jj swatting at the ball with his hands defensively or pushing players away with his hands offensively this will not do it
atlgent
March 12th, 2011
2:14 pm
@The Game Has Changed…
You are also correct.
Joe Johnson is the subject of my “to be continued”!
His game has not translated well with the motion offense. If you take a good hard look at JJ’s game, you will notice that offensively, he does not look to get an open shot, he looks to get HIS open shot. Joe can recieve the ball in a catch and shoot situation but he RARELY does that. It is imperative for him tolook at the spacing on the floor and get to a favorable position according to what he desires. Regardless, of how many open cuts there are, the cuts will go unnoticed until he gets to where he wishes to be. He will then seek out someone to pass to if he is then not in an advantageous position. The problem with that is by the time he has gotten to that position, EVERYONE has stopped moving….
He is then forced to make a bad pass or a tough shot because the shot clock is at 8 or below. Believe it or not, Josh is the recipient of many of those passes because his man is now sagging onto Joe which has left Josh open. By the way, the recipient use to be Marvin with even worse results…
to be continued….
hawks_4_life
March 12th, 2011
2:39 pm
Ramon,
Where are you, Im calling you out. Im whopping you in the fantasy league bro lol.
Rufus1
March 12th, 2011
2:43 pm
1st 4min of the 3rd QT….
I think Josh had 3 bad turnovers and 3 bad shots…..LD needs to be fired, because he can’t control Josh…..Atleast Woody would have benched him after the early mistakes.
12 Turnovers …Jamal 4 and Josh 4…..Same old story
Sautee
March 12th, 2011
2:48 pm
O’Brien,
Here’s my comment: If LD has not already lost JJ and Josh, he CERTAINLY would lose both if he stripped them of their captaincy. I think Al would take it like a man, because he’s more “team first”. I think it’s an excellent idea in theory, but in actuality LD doesn’t have enough “political capital” to do that.
Too bad, we didn’t trade Jamal for Kirk in the off season (as you and I wished) and he could have been captain right off the bat. Plus, we’d have Bibby coming off the bench like he should have been.
SteveW
March 12th, 2011
3:13 pm
Hewitts gone. Next up, LD. And I say do it now, hire the ex Cavs Coach , get some buzz back, and get the 53 win team ready for the playoffs. I lime LD, bit he’s a terrible Coach.
When forced to play Teague, Teague did well. But LD will only play Teague if forced to.
SteveW
March 12th, 2011
3:15 pm
And I hate automatic speller on the iPhone !!
mykhalc
March 12th, 2011
3:36 pm
@cp..COSIGNED times a gazillion!!!!!
O'Brien
March 12th, 2011
3:37 pm
Steve W,
Hire the ex Cavs Coach? U mean Mike Brown? Did you ever read the blog of Cleveland fans? They complained about Mike Brown…Too much ISO (even with LeBron), and his substitutions were inconsistent. However, he emphasized defense (sounds a lot like Woody imo).
Sautee,
JJ might be frustrated with the situation right now, but he is so quiet, he just goes about his business. And I think he ismature enough to handle it.
Would LD lose Josh? Possibly. but Josh is so up and down anyway…maybe that would convince Rick that he needs to trade Josh this offseason.
And just because players are stripped of their captaincy doesnt mean they can’t speak up. it just means that when the captain speaks, they should listen.
Or here is another idea. Just name a 4th captain
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
3:49 pm
My favorite posters on here:
Rod from CP, Worldwide Clyde, Najeh Davenpoop
JeJe
March 12th, 2011
3:53 pm
Does any other team in the NBA have 3 captains?
myrak43
March 12th, 2011
3:56 pm
this team needs an enima to get rid of all this crapy on this roster. no one is untouchable. trade Marvin,JJ,Smoove,Horford, and Crawford. we need some hard nosed players. I know with the size of JJ’s contract he will be nearly impossible to move. and we probably won’t get good enough return on Horford. so I would try to move Smoove and Marvin to the bucks for Bogut and Maggette and a draft pick. I know Maggette contract is rather large, but atleast he will get into the paint and to the free throw line when our jump shots aren’t falling. then go after free agents.
here is a list of the ones I would want because they are either a specialist with something, fills a need, or an ex-star and/or ex-superstar with something to prove. I will start of with ex-stars…
Tayshaun Prince, T-Mac, Michael Redd, and Jason Richardson. now specialist….
Sasha(three point), Chuck Hayes( rebound tough guy), Luther Head(Scoring), JR Smith(Scoring), Andrei Kirilinko( defensive) and last fills a need are centers Nazr Mohammed, Tyson Chandler, and Samuel Dalembert. I say we get six of these guys and let our free agents go. yes even Jamal crawford. my choice would be Prince, T-Mac, Redd, Hayes,Sasha,, and Nazr Mohammed( only because I don’t think Cuban would let Chandler go, he would out bid us big time.
line up could look something like this
T Mac/ Kirk/ Teague
JJ/ Redd/kirk/Sasha
Prince/Maggette/Sasha
Horford/Chuck Hayes
Bogut/Dalembert/Zaza
drmaryb (*_-)
March 12th, 2011
3:59 pm
Captain Kirks!
I know, why not just make everyone who is a jump shooter – Captain.
They may not be able to all talk at the same time, but they could sing together. Great teams do lots of things together, it builds chemistry and camaraderie.
Listen, my friends, we don’t need another “Chief of Staff”, we need some indians, worker bees, runners, gunners, somebody has to do the work.
terrell
March 12th, 2011
4:00 pm
Blah, blah, blah.
Same ole Hawks.
O'Brien
March 12th, 2011
4:35 pm
JeJe,
Does any other team in the NBA have 2 captains? Even in football, isn’t there only 1 captain on offense, and 1 captain on defense? In hockey, I think there is usually one captain too.
3 captains out of 5 starters is ridiculuos.
MC,
Maybe you can do an article where you ask LD what’s his opinion on how the 3 captains have worked (for the Hawks) leadership wise…
jgsbrids
March 12th, 2011
5:00 pm
for all of you folks crying for us to hire laimbeer as coach forget about it! i met him a few years ago while shooting camera underneath the basket for a dream game vs detroit. i saw laimbeer about 2hrs before the game and thought i would go over and talk to him and let him know as a hawks fan i really hated him but that i would have loved him if he played for the hawks.
what a horses rear end he was to me…his reply, ” you’re a hawks fan?” “bunch of p*ssy’s.” he went on to call rick mahorn over to us and told mahorn that i was a hawks fan and asked mahorn do you see any banners in here? put his hand above is eyes as if he was looking above for banners. i said well mahorn used to be a coach here and mahorn said yeah back in my “losing days.”
the guys (laimbeer and mahorn) were complete jerks to me the rest of the entire game. during timeouts of the game while i was shooting their team huddle for fox sports south he would look at me and put his hand over his eyes and look at the rafters as if he was looking for banners. and while he’s probably right about all of his statements–i told him that those atlanta teams they beat while he was in detroit were better teams than the pistons but every time the pistons got behind they would just foul someone hard and get into a fight with the hawks.
after the game ended–don’t remember who won–laimbeer comes to me and says hey camera-man–keep rooting for your hawks–”you have more heart than they do.”
hawks_4_life
March 12th, 2011
5:02 pm
Kind of figured the team would go through some turmoil like this, however I thought it would be early in the season. Right now we should be gearing up for our playoff push, this is not the case though. Ill always love my hawks even when they make it hard to. Just wish we can be more than just a playoff team.
atlgent
March 12th, 2011
5:09 pm
@jgsbrigs…..
Ummmm…all I can say is that the truth hurts sometimes whether its in jest or being said forthright. Basically, everyone on this BLOG has written what Laimbeer said just in a different manner….
myrak43
March 12th, 2011
5:21 pm
@jgsbrids you can’t be mad that laimbeer was a jerk to you…. it is actually kind of funny. you said that you started the whole conversation? right? you walked up to him, not the other way around. right? ok no harm there. but then the first thing you said to the man was that you hate him…. what would you do if someone, whom you don’t know from a can of paint walked up to you and said, “jgsbrids I hated you back in the day.” you probably say go screw yourself. I would anyway. but he didn’t do that. he only had a little fun with you and I bet you were winning like a little baby. dang, maybe he is right. when he said some hawks fans are a bunch of p__ssy’s.
Dept. of Unintended Irony
March 12th, 2011
5:37 pm
“I would anyway. but he didn’t do that. he only had a little fun with you and I bet you were winning like a little baby. dang, maybe he is right.”
How do little babies win? And what do they win? A tit to suck?
Scoop
March 12th, 2011
5:38 pm
Same story different Teller.
I’ve been a big supporter of LD since his promotion, but he’s losing credibility from my perspective;
~He promised to go deep in his bench
-This has not been the case. In fact he may rely more on his starters than Woodson did. Bibby was horrible this whole year, but kept his starting job till the end. Last night, Smoove had 5 HORRIBLE posessions in a row in the 2nd half with two turnovers and three bad shots, BUT after the obligatory timeout, LD sends back out on to the floor. Al has played way too many minutes in the second half this year WITHOUT the necessary shot attempts.
~LD said he can make adjustments.
-Lately, his big adjustment has been to cut Zaza’s minutes so he can play Josh Powell????
~LD had an offense the NBA had never seen before.
-we’re still waiting.
All in all, it is imperative the Hawks adjust the starting lineup to a more traditional configuration. Start Zaza at center, Al at 4, and Smoove at 3. The benefits of starting Al at 5 for athleticism and transtition opportunities are not working out on offense or defense. Marvin seems indiffferent if we win or lose and Zaza is the only dude playing with energy.
Grandad
March 12th, 2011
5:49 pm
Cameraman;
whether or not that story is true,
it made me like Laimbeer even more.
Heck, I say, let’s hire Rodman.
These Hawks are a bunch of kittens.
myrak43
March 12th, 2011
5:49 pm
@Dept. of Unintended Irony
ok you got jokes? I hate you, just kidding….. that was pretty funny though. like whining babbies. is that better?
TheAntiMe
March 12th, 2011
5:50 pm
Do you think they’re going to lose any sleep over it? I don’t.
Dept. of Unintended Irony
March 12th, 2011
5:54 pm
myrak43,
I never mind mistakes that are easy fodder.
Sautee
March 12th, 2011
5:57 pm
Grandad,
In a ten round fight with the Hawks, I’ll take the kittens. They’re tougher.
myrak43
March 12th, 2011
5:58 pm
yeah, trying to type fast at work, without being noticed.
jgsbrids
March 12th, 2011
6:04 pm
you guys maybe right the more i think about it…but i was trying to give laimbeer a compliment…probably worded it the wrong way. he was my kind of player..white guy who could shoot, box out, pass and played smart…my point was that i hated him as a hawks fan but would have loved him had he played for them!!!!
hawks_4_life
March 12th, 2011
6:12 pm
ajchawks Correction on #Hawks starters: Teague, Hinrich, Johnson, Smith, @zaza27. Drew: “We’ve lost 4 in row. Got to shake things up.”
Teague starts…cool
hawks_4_life
March 12th, 2011
6:13 pm
Hold on does this mean Al is benched? Ill hold my tongue and be patient to see what is actually going on.
jgsbrids
March 12th, 2011
6:14 pm
just saw where horford is out with bad ankle….
hawks_4_life
March 12th, 2011
6:15 pm
THATS NOT GOOD
hawks_4_life
March 12th, 2011
6:16 pm
Would like to see what B. Armstrong can bring to the table, all the other bigs are figured out already.
Grandad
March 12th, 2011
6:17 pm
Mr Not Sund;
Your funny,
LD made JJ a jumpshooter & the Hawks
a jump shooting team, which Joe & the players
don’t like. Therefore, they wish to go back to
going inside like before. Huh? Seriously.
Joe does not have the IQ to learn the “motion” offense.
Joe = not smart.
Therefore, if this is Joe’s team,
Joe’s team = not smart.
Also Joe = stubborn, selfish, apathetic, introverted, & superficial.
PlusSizeModel
March 12th, 2011
6:17 pm
No coach is gong to help with this joke of an ownership, although Drew clearly isn’t the answer either. You have two players worth building around, but neither of them is the “best”, (J, Johnson), or the idiot who thinks he’s “best”, J. Smith. They are both losers, and so are the fans until someone with a clue buys this team.
Grandad
March 12th, 2011
6:24 pm
Sautee
Which is tougher kittens or pussies?
Holler back if you want the punch line.
Sautee
March 12th, 2011
6:25 pm
“Joe = not smart.
Therefore, if this is Joe’s team,
Joe’s team = not smart.
Also Joe = stubborn, selfish, apathetic, introverted, & superficial.”
Dang, Grandad, don’t sugarcoat it like that… tell us what you REALLY think!
Sautee
March 12th, 2011
6:27 pm
Grandad,
Mrs. Sautee is calling me to supper, but I’ll bite (hee,hee).
Blast
March 12th, 2011
6:33 pm
Sad state of affairs in Hawksville. They lose tonight, might as well pack it up for the season.
Josh was a big culprit in that 3rd qrt meltdown. He threw the ball away in 4 successive trips trying to force a pass. He probably had 5 turnovers in the 3rd.
What is wrong with the Hawks? How can you play great in the 1st half and actually had a lead, and you turn around and do the exact opposite in the 2nd half. This is crazy!
Hawks sucks!
Time
March 12th, 2011
6:39 pm
Horford out tonight. Teague starting at point, Hinrich at 2. Marvin on the bench. Sucks having Horford out, but I like this lineup much better.
myrak43
March 12th, 2011
6:44 pm
that line up may not be that bad
O'Brien
March 12th, 2011
6:47 pm
I’m glad LD is changing it up. Maybe JJ at SF will get going. And I like Marvin coming off the bench.
That being said, I would have gone with Teague, JJ, Damien, Josh and ZaZa. And then bring Hinrich, Jamal, and Marvin off the bench (that’s a very strong bench imo).
Jae Evolution
March 12th, 2011
6:52 pm
I don’t understand LD, he won’t play LD against Rosey last night, but now he starts the kid, lol this guy confuses me. Also a negative to this means Jamal instant PG off the bench, so lookout for that.
Sautee
March 12th, 2011
6:53 pm
Now we know why Al was so tentative last night. Hope he’s back soon.
Ken Strickland
March 12th, 2011
6:58 pm
When your key players stop doing in the 2nd half what was so successful for them in the 1st half, I PLACE THE BLAME SQUARELY IN THE LAP OF THE HC. There is no rule that I know of that prevents a HC from benching any player(s), particularly veteran players, when they refuse to do as they’re told.
I’m getting sick of all these lame excuses from Drew. It didn’t work for Woodson, and it won’t work for him. A real HC is one that can coach a team out of a slump, or prevent a team from having a slump in the 1st place. How in the devil can he expect our frontline players, who were already in early foul trouble, to start taking hard fouls?
You’re telling me he doesn’t have sense enough to know that if our perimeter defenders had kept Rose out of the paint in the 1st place, like we did in our last meeting, there would have been no need to knock anybody down. This is a repeat of the same BS excuses, approach and bias that we routinely got from Woodson.
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
7:07 pm
Josh and Marvin need to be sent away in the off season… I am done with these two………….
ISO Joe= 243k per night would be next..Get him outta here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
7:07 pm
I like Marvina kickin rocks………………………………………….
slimjr
March 12th, 2011
7:09 pm
“For all the Marvin Fans……..I saw him at a Pets Mart in Sandy Springs one day and thought……….Gosh does this guy even lift weights ? He looks as soft as my girlfriend !”
only thing Marvin lifts are Twinkies…………LOL
mykhalc
March 12th, 2011
7:16 pm
we were dup’ed into thinkin’ LD would bring somethin’ different!!! then again…maybe he does…but it’s somethin’ WORSE…PERIOD!!! KA BOOM!!!!
Jerry West
March 12th, 2011
7:24 pm
When is Josh just gonna let the guards run the break? Pass the ball, outrun the other team’s 4, and get a Sportscenter highlight. How hard is that?
myrak43
March 12th, 2011
7:46 pm
how about that Jeff Teague first hawk in double figures. not only that but he is leading all scores