Atlanta Hawks: Bulls 94, Hawks 76

D-Rose did a lot of this to the Hawks. (Chris Sweda, McClatchy-Tribune)

D-Rose did a lot of this to the Hawks. (Chris Sweda, McClatchy-Tribune)

ChicagoKirk Hinrich is new to these Hawks. He sounds like he can’t quite understand why the Hawks recognize what works for them but can’t stick with their plans now that the competition has toughened.

  • “In the second half it was like we forgot everything we did in the first half,” Hinrich said.
  • I doubt this will be the last time he expresses such a sentiment.
  • The Hawks scored 30 points in the second quarter. They made 13 of 21 shots, were 5 of 8 in the paint and had two turnovers. Jamal and Al had the two-man game going and J.J.made a couple jumpers.
  • In the third quarter, the Hawks scored 10 points. They missed 11 of 15 shots, were 1 for 2 in the paint and had five turnovers.
  • “I don’t think we did what we did in the first half to stick around which is move the basketball and get good looks,” J.J. said. “We started playing a lot of one-on-one and our shot selection wasn’t the greatest.”
  • “We definitely didn’t have the movement we had in the first half,” Jamal said.
  • To be sure, the game changed because D-Rose decided he was going to change it. But L.D. and the Hawks hardly did all they could to prevent it.
  • The coach stuck with a Jamal-J.J. backcourt when Hinrich was in foul trouble. The players did little to discourage Rose from dancing into the lane.
  • “Rose got to the basket at will against us,” Drew said. “He attacked the paint and we couldn’t keep him in front of us. We tried a few zone possessions but he still got there.”
  • Did L.D. consider sending in Teague for a crack at slowing Rose’s slices to the rim?
  • “Thought about it but that to me that wasn’t the real issue at that point, him getting into the lane,” Drew said. “We did nothing with a physicality as far as taking any hard fouls. That was my thought process. Even when he was getting to the line, we did nothing about giving hard fouls. I don’t care who you are playing against, if you play that soft, you are going to have problems in the paint.”
  • The problems extended to the glass, where the Bulls hammered the Hawks 50-28. The Bulls are the league’s best rebounding team, so this was a game where the Hawks desperately needed someone other than Al (seven rebounds) and Josh (six) to hit the boards.
  • They got four rebounds in 17 minutes from Zaza and not much else. Marvin had one in 18 minutes. L.D. went with Wilkins and he had three in 21 minutes.
  • Even with Boozer (ankle) sidelined, Chicago’s front line of Noah, Hawks nemesis Kurt Thomas , Taj Gibson and Omer Asik combined for 31 rebounds. Denghad more rebounds than Marvin and Damien combined in his 40 minutes.
  • “They are a good rebounding team,” L.D. said. “They did a great job, which we expected. They did a tremendous job in attacking the glass. Both Noah and Kurt, he still has a little in his tank. He gets to the glass as well. I thought Gibson got to the glass. It’s nothing we didn’t expect. We are a team that’s had problems with the glass, and going into this game we wanted to pay particular attention to that, keep them off the glass and limit them.”
  • The Hawks trailed 22-20 after the first quarter, when the Bulls missed some open 3s and Rose got into foul trouble. Joe made an effort to get into the lane early but, in contrast to Rose, was met by a sea of hands and bodies and kept losing his handle on the ball.
  • “It was tough,” Joe said. “A lot of that could have gone either way. It happens. I have been and we have been going through a rut these last few games. We will get out of it tomorrow.”
  • Josh had success spinning into the lane even if it was tough to finish down there. Things didn’t go so well when he had to dribble before making his move. He also missed both of his 3-point attempts as part of a 1 for 5 effort from beyond 15 feet.
  • But at least Josh was willing to go hard to the basket and earned nine free-throw attempts. Horford, Marvin, Jamal, Zaza and Damien had none.
  • “It was physical,” L.D. said. “We got the ball down low. I didn’t think we went away from it. We still went down to it we just came away empty-handed. A team like Chicago they have size, they have length. We were pretty much prepared for their double teams.”
  • After he started 5 for 5 from the field and seemed to be in a flow, Jamal had just three shot attempts after halftime. The Hawks lately don’t seem able to go to whichever guy has it going.
  • Al had five assists. He seemed reluctant to go around or shoot over Thomas.
  • The Hawks have been better defensively since Hinrich arrived but the offense has stalled.
  • “It’s a little bit of an adjustment,” Hinrich said. “The Hawks play a little different than any team I’ve ever been on. We have a lot of guys who post up and most of the teams I’ve been on haven’t had much of a post-up presence. A lot of isos. We have a lot of versatility. A lot of guys who can handle the ball. I think it’s a good fit. We just have to find a way to help each other on both ends.”
  • The Hawks have lost four in a row for the first time since November.
  • “We still have a lot more basketball left,” Joe said. “We have just got to stay positive and get out of this little rut we are in. I’m pretty sure I know tomorrow with us going back home knowing we have to get off this skid we have got to come out on all cylinders and try to get us one.”
  • “We have got to get up,” L.D. said. “This is the NBA. All teams go through trials and tribulations. We are one of the teams at that time. It’s not a time to hang your head. It’s a time to look in the mirror and come out and bounce back. This is no different than what a lot of the other teams have gone through. This is a time to see what we are made of.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

233 comments Add your comment

myrak43

March 12th, 2011
5:21 pm

@jgsbrids you can’t be mad that laimbeer was a jerk to you…. it is actually kind of funny. you said that you started the whole conversation? right? you walked up to him, not the other way around. right? ok no harm there. but then the first thing you said to the man was that you hate him…. what would you do if someone, whom you don’t know from a can of paint walked up to you and said, “jgsbrids I hated you back in the day.” you probably say go screw yourself. I would anyway. but he didn’t do that. he only had a little fun with you and I bet you were winning like a little baby. dang, maybe he is right. when he said some hawks fans are a bunch of p__ssy’s.

Dept. of Unintended Irony

March 12th, 2011
5:37 pm

“I would anyway. but he didn’t do that. he only had a little fun with you and I bet you were winning like a little baby. dang, maybe he is right.”

How do little babies win? And what do they win? A tit to suck?

Scoop

March 12th, 2011
5:38 pm

Same story different Teller.

I’ve been a big supporter of LD since his promotion, but he’s losing credibility from my perspective;
~He promised to go deep in his bench
-This has not been the case. In fact he may rely more on his starters than Woodson did. Bibby was horrible this whole year, but kept his starting job till the end. Last night, Smoove had 5 HORRIBLE posessions in a row in the 2nd half with two turnovers and three bad shots, BUT after the obligatory timeout, LD sends back out on to the floor. Al has played way too many minutes in the second half this year WITHOUT the necessary shot attempts.

~LD said he can make adjustments.
-Lately, his big adjustment has been to cut Zaza’s minutes so he can play Josh Powell????

~LD had an offense the NBA had never seen before.
-we’re still waiting.

All in all, it is imperative the Hawks adjust the starting lineup to a more traditional configuration. Start Zaza at center, Al at 4, and Smoove at 3. The benefits of starting Al at 5 for athleticism and transtition opportunities are not working out on offense or defense. Marvin seems indiffferent if we win or lose and Zaza is the only dude playing with energy.

Grandad

March 12th, 2011
5:49 pm

Cameraman;
whether or not that story is true,
it made me like Laimbeer even more.

Heck, I say, let’s hire Rodman.

These Hawks are a bunch of kittens.

myrak43

March 12th, 2011
5:49 pm

@Dept. of Unintended Irony

ok you got jokes? I hate you, just kidding….. that was pretty funny though. like whining babbies. is that better?

TheAntiMe

March 12th, 2011
5:50 pm

Do you think they’re going to lose any sleep over it? I don’t.

Dept. of Unintended Irony

March 12th, 2011
5:54 pm

myrak43,

I never mind mistakes that are easy fodder.

Sautee

March 12th, 2011
5:57 pm

Grandad,

In a ten round fight with the Hawks, I’ll take the kittens. They’re tougher.

myrak43

March 12th, 2011
5:58 pm

yeah, trying to type fast at work, without being noticed.

jgsbrids

March 12th, 2011
6:04 pm

you guys maybe right the more i think about it…but i was trying to give laimbeer a compliment…probably worded it the wrong way. he was my kind of player..white guy who could shoot, box out, pass and played smart…my point was that i hated him as a hawks fan but would have loved him had he played for them!!!!

hawks_4_life

March 12th, 2011
6:12 pm

ajchawks Correction on #Hawks starters: Teague, Hinrich, Johnson, Smith, @zaza27. Drew: “We’ve lost 4 in row. Got to shake things up.”

Teague starts…cool

hawks_4_life

March 12th, 2011
6:13 pm

Hold on does this mean Al is benched? Ill hold my tongue and be patient to see what is actually going on.

jgsbrids

March 12th, 2011
6:14 pm

just saw where horford is out with bad ankle….

hawks_4_life

March 12th, 2011
6:15 pm

THATS NOT GOOD

hawks_4_life

March 12th, 2011
6:16 pm

Would like to see what B. Armstrong can bring to the table, all the other bigs are figured out already.

Grandad

March 12th, 2011
6:17 pm

Mr Not Sund;
Your funny,
LD made JJ a jumpshooter & the Hawks
a jump shooting team, which Joe & the players
don’t like. Therefore, they wish to go back to
going inside like before. Huh? Seriously.

Joe does not have the IQ to learn the “motion” offense.

Joe = not smart.
Therefore, if this is Joe’s team,
Joe’s team = not smart.
Also Joe = stubborn, selfish, apathetic, introverted, & superficial.

PlusSizeModel

March 12th, 2011
6:17 pm

No coach is gong to help with this joke of an ownership, although Drew clearly isn’t the answer either. You have two players worth building around, but neither of them is the “best”, (J, Johnson), or the idiot who thinks he’s “best”, J. Smith. They are both losers, and so are the fans until someone with a clue buys this team.

Grandad

March 12th, 2011
6:24 pm

Sautee

Which is tougher kittens or pussies?
Holler back if you want the punch line.

Sautee

March 12th, 2011
6:25 pm

“Joe = not smart.
Therefore, if this is Joe’s team,
Joe’s team = not smart.
Also Joe = stubborn, selfish, apathetic, introverted, & superficial.”

Dang, Grandad, don’t sugarcoat it like that… tell us what you REALLY think!

Sautee

March 12th, 2011
6:27 pm

Grandad,

Mrs. Sautee is calling me to supper, but I’ll bite (hee,hee).

Blast

March 12th, 2011
6:33 pm

Sad state of affairs in Hawksville. They lose tonight, might as well pack it up for the season.

Josh was a big culprit in that 3rd qrt meltdown. He threw the ball away in 4 successive trips trying to force a pass. He probably had 5 turnovers in the 3rd.

What is wrong with the Hawks? How can you play great in the 1st half and actually had a lead, and you turn around and do the exact opposite in the 2nd half. This is crazy!

Hawks sucks!

Time

March 12th, 2011
6:39 pm

Horford out tonight. Teague starting at point, Hinrich at 2. Marvin on the bench. Sucks having Horford out, but I like this lineup much better.

myrak43

March 12th, 2011
6:44 pm

that line up may not be that bad

O'Brien

March 12th, 2011
6:47 pm

I’m glad LD is changing it up. Maybe JJ at SF will get going. And I like Marvin coming off the bench.

That being said, I would have gone with Teague, JJ, Damien, Josh and ZaZa. And then bring Hinrich, Jamal, and Marvin off the bench (that’s a very strong bench imo).

Jae Evolution

March 12th, 2011
6:52 pm

I don’t understand LD, he won’t play LD against Rosey last night, but now he starts the kid, lol this guy confuses me. Also a negative to this means Jamal instant PG off the bench, so lookout for that.

Sautee

March 12th, 2011
6:53 pm

Now we know why Al was so tentative last night. Hope he’s back soon.

Ken Strickland

March 12th, 2011
6:58 pm

When your key players stop doing in the 2nd half what was so successful for them in the 1st half, I PLACE THE BLAME SQUARELY IN THE LAP OF THE HC. There is no rule that I know of that prevents a HC from benching any player(s), particularly veteran players, when they refuse to do as they’re told.

I’m getting sick of all these lame excuses from Drew. It didn’t work for Woodson, and it won’t work for him. A real HC is one that can coach a team out of a slump, or prevent a team from having a slump in the 1st place. How in the devil can he expect our frontline players, who were already in early foul trouble, to start taking hard fouls?

You’re telling me he doesn’t have sense enough to know that if our perimeter defenders had kept Rose out of the paint in the 1st place, like we did in our last meeting, there would have been no need to knock anybody down. This is a repeat of the same BS excuses, approach and bias that we routinely got from Woodson.

slimjr

March 12th, 2011
7:07 pm

Josh and Marvin need to be sent away in the off season… I am done with these two………….
ISO Joe= 243k per night would be next..Get him outta here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

slimjr

March 12th, 2011
7:07 pm

I like Marvina kickin rocks………………………………………….

slimjr

March 12th, 2011
7:09 pm

“For all the Marvin Fans……..I saw him at a Pets Mart in Sandy Springs one day and thought……….Gosh does this guy even lift weights ? He looks as soft as my girlfriend !”

only thing Marvin lifts are Twinkies…………LOL

mykhalc

March 12th, 2011
7:16 pm

we were dup’ed into thinkin’ LD would bring somethin’ different!!! then again…maybe he does…but it’s somethin’ WORSE…PERIOD!!! KA BOOM!!!!

Jerry West

March 12th, 2011
7:24 pm

When is Josh just gonna let the guards run the break? Pass the ball, outrun the other team’s 4, and get a Sportscenter highlight. How hard is that?

myrak43

March 12th, 2011
7:46 pm

how about that Jeff Teague first hawk in double figures. not only that but he is leading all scores