Atlanta Hawks: J.J.: ‘We all are jump shooters. That’s pretty much what it is.’

J.J. may have gotten to the crux of the matter when asked today if the way for the Hawks to get their offense back on track is to attack the basket.

“Maybe,” he said. “But you look at a jump-shooting team–we are a jump-shooting team. If shots are falling then, great, we are rolling. But one through five, we all are jump shooters. That’s pretty much what it is. Like I said, if we are making shots then we are probably unstoppable. But when we are not making shots those are the games we have to grind out.”

With the notable exceptions of the recent games against Portland and Chicago, the Hawks haven’t been able to “grind out” against better opponents. They remain, essentially, a group that wins by outscoring opponents, and one that generally must do so by making a high percentage of their long jump shots.

They still do so at an above-average rate for the season but not well enough to counteract their lack of scoring on free throws, their below-average 3-point shooting and their conversion of 2.4 full less baskets at the rim per game than the average NBA team. Atlanta’s effective field-goal percentage has nearly dipped to the league average.

Go figure: The Hawks now have a below-average NBA offense and an above-average defense. The Hawks had a much more efficient offense last season because they were much better at offensive rebounding and taking care of the ball.

I figured all along Atlanta wouldn’t be as efficient scoring this season, with a potential trade off that they wouldn’t be as predictable to defend in the playoffs. I didn’t know the offense would end up falling off this much. And now they are predictable in another way. It used to be that the ball stayed on one side of the floor as Joe did his thing so the defense had it easy. Now the proper plan vs. the Hawks is to induce them into taking long jump shots, collect the rebounds and beat them in transition as they scramble.

Back to J.J.’s point: Since the Hawks are clearly best at regularly creating open jump shots (no small thing in the NBA) and making them, why shouldn’t they just keep jacking jumpers until they fall and try to grind when they don’t? Their rate of making them is going to fluctuate but at least we know they can do it. Eventually. I mean, right?

What are the other options with this roster? They have no post game to speak of, unless L.D. can suddenly convince Smoove that he’s better off in the paint (unlikely since both men see this as a viable option). Joe, Jamal and Al can attack off the dribble but Joe isn’t making his floater now, Jamal’s iso game seems stymied by the offense and Al is more pick-and-pop than pick-and-roll or drives.

The Hawks can try to run more but that means defending, rebounding and/or forcing turnovers (which the Hawks do at a below-average rate). Running also means more turnovers, unless Kirk Hinrich (who is off to a high-turnover start with Atlanta) can organize the break.

And, anyway, the design of L.D.’s offense, at least as recently executed, seems to lend itself to creating open jump shots. Notice that when he talked about a Plan B yesterday, it involved feigning jump shots and driving to the basket past closing defenders. In other words, the main impetus is getting an open jumper and then using that threat to create a better shot, not getting that better shot through the execution of the offense in the first place.

What happened to all the post-ups and cuts we saw in the preseason and early in the year? Dare I say more Iso-Joe and Iso-Jamal going at the basket is a better plan than swinging the ball around only to jack up long jump shots anyway?

“I just think we have to continue to know where we are trying to get to and know who we are trying to get to score that play, whatever it is,” Jamal said. “If we point the ball in a certain direction I think we will be more efficient offensively.”

“We have to be more aggressive going to the basket,” Al said. “I think we can get baited into taking a lot of jump shots. Even though we are good jump shooters, at the end of the day you have to have a balance. We have to be able to do both to be successful.”

If he’s right about that but the Hawks just can’t do it because, as J.J says, the are a jump-shooting team at heart, then they are capable of looking really good in the playoffs because those shots are falling or really bad because they are not. Taking into account the nature of the playoffs, Atlanta’s poor ability to stick to a plan, and the fragile psyche as exposed by Orlando last spring, do you think the jump-shooting Hawks can carry the day as an underdog in a seven-game series?

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376 comments Add your comment

Rod from College Park

March 9th, 2011
3:33 pm

Wow!! I never knew Josh was a jumpshooter. Maybe that is the problem. These guys actually think that they are jumpshooters.

Katie

March 9th, 2011
3:36 pm

Katie

March 9th, 2011
3:36 pm

mykhalc

March 9th, 2011
3:37 pm

i posted 2 blogs ago that these cats think they are better than they really are!!! gggeeesshhhhh what morons!!!

mykhalc

March 9th, 2011
3:39 pm

now if we can only get Joe to admit he’s a mere Robin then we’ll know blog theraphy is workin’!!!

Jamaaliver

March 9th, 2011
3:40 pm

Katie…you failed.

I don’t know what this team needs anymore. Maybe a more dependable post presence from what we have.

How different things could be had we drafted either Ty Lawson OR Dejuan Blair instead of Jeff Teague back in ‘09.

ATFail

March 9th, 2011
3:40 pm

The problem with the Hawks is the city of Atlanta

initial J

March 9th, 2011
3:43 pm

I put a lot of the blame on the coach. The goal should be to put the players in the best situation for them to be effective. If they aren’t doing what he asks of them then put their behinds on the bench. Joe and Josh are most effective in the paint. Why is it Jamal and Al only attack the rim when LD decides to run a play at the end of a quarter? Why not do it more often? When’s the last time your saw Smoove catch an oop in a half court set?

Sensibility

March 9th, 2011
3:44 pm

This team is pathetic. Rod, you hit the nail on the head. The reason they stink is they think they’re jump shooters. The reason this team competes is its length and athleticism. Take the friggin ball to the hoop, If you love shooting jumpshots then perhaps you might get fouled where you can shoot your coveted jump shots from the foul line. LD is a terrible coach.

Trojan

March 9th, 2011
3:46 pm

Poorly constructed team, poorly managed team, poorly coached team. Yep, jump shooting teams often do well in the playoffs. It seems that in all those years of rebuilding, the management could have directed the franchise in a direction that wins in the playoffs. Horrible!

JeJe

March 9th, 2011
3:53 pm

Josh Smith asks LD what is a good shot and what isn’t

LOL

JJ is terrified of going to FT line

Dude can’t even make a technical FT

Najeh Davenpoop

March 9th, 2011
3:56 pm

“Jeje . . then why didn’t the Hawks pick up Damien during the summer, instead opting to sign guys like Powell and Collins, and buying out Papa Sy’s contract so that he can come to ATL.”

Because the Hawks are run by the equivalent of a bunch of orangutans throwing feces at each other.

Don’t discredit what Damien has done. Even with his limited offensive game he is the most consistent SF on this team.

K.W.

March 9th, 2011
3:58 pm

LD needs to be straight up with Josh and tell him to attack the basket and stop shooting those jump shots. Sure some of those jump shots go, but he’s more better when he attacks the basket. Also LD needs to use his rotation better. I see why some call him Woody’s clone.

JeJe

March 9th, 2011
3:59 pm

Damien doesn’t even have limited offensive game. The guy is very crafty and hits jumpshots.

I must be like the only person in this state who can see this. it’s pathetic.

JeJe

March 9th, 2011
4:00 pm

JJ offers no solution. He doesn’t fully condone attacking the basket. He pretty much just wants to live and die by the sword. We’re pretty much the Orlando Magic, but with no big man and worse shooters

Great

STRETCH

March 9th, 2011
4:01 pm

They are not a jumpshooting team. And Larry Drew is not the right coach for this team as well. These guys play more like the Yellow Jackets.

Seriously, do you think Avery Johnson would put up with Josh Smiths antics?

Rick Dantonio would definetly draw up more offensive plays than they currently have. I mean, last night they came down and in six (6) trips – zero (0) points, not even a trip to the line.

A Phil Jackson would have been able to work wonders with a team with 2 all-stars and JS/JC. Anyone remember the days of Jordan/Pippen/Ron Harper??? or Kobe/Shaq/Fisher???

The talent is there, but the coaching and the heart of the players isnt. I agree the fans dont support this team alot, but what do you expect…this is Georgia and people dont have much to get excited about down there. But give them a winning product, they will show up.

northcyde

March 9th, 2011
4:02 pm

From the last blog:

Jeje . . then why didn’t the Hawks pick up Damien during the summer, instead opting to sign guys like Powell and Collins, and buying out Papa Sy’s contract so that he can come to ATL.

I don’t react all emotionally to every win and loss like you do Jeje. I’ve accpeted long ago what this team is. A good but not great team, that is only good because of JJ, Horford, Smith, and Jamal when he’s balling.

Nobody wanted Damien Wilkins.

When Marvin went down, not a single Hawk fan was even thinking about him coming here. So how did he all of a sudden arrive in Atlanta? Because Sund was familiar with him . . and because Nique was his uncle.

What you’re talkin about, is why he gets playing time. That’s different than what I’m talking about. I know good and well why Damien has cracked the rotation.

But it’s not like he’s consistently balling though. He’s just as mediocre as any other backup SF in this league. He only looks better to us, because Marvin is so schizophrenic as a starter, and we literally have no backup SF to play anyway.

Damien outplayed a sorry Mo Evans. Like that was a big accomplishment. But knock yourself out if you think people wanted Damien, and don’t believe that the major reason that he’s here, is because of his uncle.

I said that Damien, Teague, and Zaza wouldn’t play on any other playoff roster. I take that back. They MIGHT be able to get on the floor in Miami.

Zaza probably could, due to their lack of big men. Teague and Damien might beat out Chalmers and Eddie House in certain situations. So they’d get on the floor for 1 of the other current 15 playoff teams.

mykhalc

March 9th, 2011
4:02 pm

@JeJe…damn co-signed again!!! all the way from san fran too!!!LOL

JeJe

March 9th, 2011
4:03 pm

Northcyde from previous blog:
“But it’s not like he’s consistently balling though. He’s just as mediocre as any other backup SF in this league”

Sorry but I don’t recall many backup SFs taking 2 charges on Carmelo
And that’s preprosterous to claim he’s worse than every backup SF in this league. If he started and was given Marvin’s minutes, he’d give wayyyyy better production than what that pathetic stiff does.

but if I am the only person on here who thinks this, I don’t mind. Damien has played very well for this team recently.

Rufus1

March 9th, 2011
4:03 pm

Last year we were a defensive team, that added a scorer(Jamal)…

This year LD in trying to fix the offense, has broken the defense..

GO BACK TO THE DEFENSE 1ST MENTALITY!!!

The Bulls expect to win games in the 80’s…We have the same kind of roster. Look at their box score(Boozer 15pts, Deng 15pts and Rose 24pts, No one else has 10pts..WIN). Our PG is a defensive, NOT OFFENSIVE MINDED PG and we have defensive bodies all along this roster…LD needs to play to this teams STRENGHT, DEFENSE!!!!!

It would take the pressure off players like Joe, Jamal and Josh to score, because defense will be our calling card.

We are a Jeep Wrangle, LD is trying to put in the Indy 500…IT AIN”T GONNA TO WORK.

That is why I wanted Bibby and Jamal traded, because an offensive coach can’t help himself around a player like Jamal.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 9th, 2011
4:04 pm

“Dare I say more Iso-Joe and Iso-Jamal going at the basket is a better plan than swinging the ball around only to jack up long jump shots anyway?”

This one is easy: no. At least when the Hawks run the offense and end up with a jumper, more often than not it is an uncontested jumper in rhythm. When the Hawks run iso, the result is a contested jumper. Give me uncontested and in rhythm over contested and out of rhythm any day.

It’s one thing to run iso with a player who can get into the paint and to the line. Joe can’t do either one, and Jamal only does one or the other on an inconsistent basis.

To me, the solution to the Hawks’ overreliance on jump shooting is to force Smoove and Al to roll instead of pop when Hinrich and Teague run pick and rolls. And if they won’t do it, find someone who will. Sh-t, if Hilton Armstrong is more willing to roll to the hoop than Smoove or Al, let him do it.

JeJe

March 9th, 2011
4:05 pm

*to claim he’s as mediocre as every backup SF. If Damien started, and Marvin came off the bench, WHERE HE ACTUALLY PRODUCES EVERY GAME, our ppg would be better.

Rock Preston

March 9th, 2011
4:06 pm

Joe Johnson is as soft as they come. That cat never attacks the rim. A 120 million 3-point shooter is all he is. What a joke. I bet Kobe and the real stars laugh their arses off when they see him coming down the floor. He even looks out of place int he All Star Game. Everyone attacks in that game but he still floats to the 3 point line on a fast break.

JeJe

March 9th, 2011
4:07 pm

ZaZa needs to get MAJOR minutes Friday vs. Chicago – especially that Asik guy. He almost beat us last week if he had played more. ZaZa is at his best when he’s going against physical players AND NOT TRYING TO DO TOO MUCH ON OFFENSE/ NOT FLOPPING
If ZaZa can just be physical, get garbage baskets, and rebound, he is worth his contract

Marcus

March 9th, 2011
4:07 pm

Sund is either gonna GM his way into a better record or out of a job:

We have decent- good players, but no real wiggle room to make improvement due to existing deals/contracts and the constant budget dictates of the ASG.

Jamaal is a FA, so either we give him an extension or he walks. His value in a trade (expiring contract) is gone since the trade deadline elapsed.

We took on Hinrich’s contract (probably more than ASG wants to pay for 2011-12) but also traded away our only low-cost (relative) method of team improvement: our 1st round draft pick. Now we either have to leverage existing desirable assets in a trade that other teams might actually want (Hinrich,Smoove or Al), go over the luxury tax (yeah, right) or go even more bargain-basement for role players around what remains of the “core”.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 9th, 2011
4:07 pm

“We have to be more aggressive going to the basket,” Al said. “I think we can get baited into taking a lot of jump shots. Even though we are good jump shooters, at the end of the day you have to have a balance. We have to be able to do both to be successful.”

Very true, but Al is a big culprit when it comes to lack of aggression. Hopefully he takes his own advice. This team would be better off if he were more selfish.

jtshoopsblog

March 9th, 2011
4:09 pm

They shouldn’t be a team of jumpshooters as they have a long and athletic lineup. And someone tell me WTF was Al Horford doing shooting threes?

JeJe

March 9th, 2011
4:09 pm

LOL @ Najeh. Al takes WAY too many jumpshots. Every single time he gets the ball, it’s 20 ft away, he jabsteps, then shoots. Bynum knew this and blocked the crap outta him at least once

SteveW

March 9th, 2011
4:17 pm

The synopsis of this article, “We are a team in disarray”. And of that there is no doubt.

And you have to admit, ya’ll didn’t think we would regress this badly this season did you? We are regressing noticably.

Rufus1

March 9th, 2011
4:19 pm

I have no problems with the Jumpers… The Hawks are missing wide-open jumpshots, that happens.

I have a problem with the UNBALANCED starting line-up, that focuses on the offensive end. We need to start a real center, that will rebound and defend. We need to bring MW of the bench, because he produces from that role.

SteveW

March 9th, 2011
4:20 pm

All this talk about good but not great, we are what we are. No, we are a 53 win team who is now going backwards. We are a 3rd and 4th seed the last 2 years, who are now 5th and fading fast.

We are a team that could beat the Lakers the last 3 seasons, and now we are a 15th seed versus a 2nd seed.

We are now a team that loses by 14 at home and says good job.

We are not the Wizards. The Wizards should say good job losing to the Lakers by 14 at home. Not a 53 win 3rd seed!

SteveW

March 9th, 2011
4:21 pm

To this point, the worst thing Sund did, if he had anything to do with it, was hiring LD. LD may wreck this organization for years to come.

HawkNoMore

March 9th, 2011
4:24 pm

The Hawks just plain suck and J.J. does not even care if the fans show up or not. He said so last year. This is just a bad team with a buch of bad players and the future looks even worse. But really, who gives a #$%& about the National Broters Assocaition

SteveW

March 9th, 2011
4:25 pm

From the last post:

Please let’s put this idiocy to rest that Championship teams don’t develop talent, but only play “win now” folks:

Boston in their Championship season was developing, using, and using to win a Championship:

2nd round pick Leon Powe
27th pick Kendrick Perkins
25th pick Tony Allen
2nd round pick Glen Davis

When the Spurs won the last Championship, they were using:

28th pick Tony Parker – who they developed
46th pick Matt Bonner
28th pick Beno Udrih

When the Lakers won in ‘09, they were using:
2nd Pick Trevor Ariza
26th pick Jordan Farmar
25th pick Shannon Brown

Now all these guys were developed by their teams, or the team that had them before, and were young, like 3 years or less in the League

Just because the Hawks are so stupid not to develop quality role players, or hire Coaches that are that stupid for whatever reason, stop with the good teams don’t develop these players. It’s just patently not true!

And we won’t even go into how Portland is developing 2nd round pick Patty Mills, how the Sixers are developing 2nd round pick Jodie Meeks and the seemingly endless other examples that are out there.

Good teams develop marginal picks into rotational players. Period. And let’s not even look at 2nd pick DeJuan Blair with you guessed it, the Spurs.

And yes, when Jamal was slumping, LD could’ve have played mr. 22 points in 27 minutes Jordan Crawford last night on 9-17 shooting a little bit. I don’t blame Sund for trading him. If your Coach won’t play him, get something for him that he will utilize.

And I forgot to mention Rajon Rondo, Boston’s 21st pick, who stunk to high heaven, but Doc developed him into you guessed it, an All Star.

Rondo’s 1st season in 23.5 mpg – % 41.8 fg, 3.8 assists, 20.7% from 3 point line, 64.7% from the FT line, 6.4 ppg, 1.8 to’s. If Teague put up those numbers, ya’ll would be screaming for his head.

Next season, still only 5.8 assists per game in 29.9minutes, 26.6 % from the 3.

Now – 50.5% from the field. 12.2 assists per game, 32.3% from the 3. Why? Coaching, nothing else.

Sautee

March 9th, 2011
4:25 pm

MC,

Will you please ask LD why we don’t run motion in crunch time? After all he said that the motion offense made “everyone on the court a threat to score”. That seems like the right thing to do when we need a bucket the most. It would put more pressure on the defense (particularly if we ran our cuts HARD) then an ISO would UNLESS Joe or Jamal are having a rare “in the zone” game. THEN do iso.

Thanks

roan st.

March 9th, 2011
4:26 pm

Thanks Joe, I’m glad we paid you a 120 million to be a jump shooter. For that kind of money you would think we could get a player who could attack the basket. This team is going nowhere so it’s time to make some major changes. I think the hawks need to seriously consider trading some of their talent and recalibrate this roster. Horford is a freakin 4 and we need a true center. So we are going to have to eventually choose between horford and j. smith. And please trade duck for anything of value! Our only hope for the future is new ownership.

drmaryb (*_*)

March 9th, 2011
4:26 pm

Baboon’s Azz!

“Because the Hawks are run by the equivalent of a bunch of orangutans throwing feces at each other.”
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Damn! Naj! Just Damn!
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Question: When Bosh cries? Does his face look like a “fck face” or a “bBaboon’s azz”? Ta Dah! What happened to the Avatar? Did cutting his locks cause him to lose his strength?
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Aye Najeh! Nothing man, just damn! LMBAO!

Ryan

March 9th, 2011
4:26 pm

I HATE TO SAY IT BUT JOSH SMITH WASNT SHOOTING THRESS AND JUMP SHOTS UNDER WOODY. BRING BACK WOODY, AND I HATE THAT GUY WITH ALL OF MY GUTS. JOSH IS HURTING MY HAWKS!!!

JeJe

March 9th, 2011
4:27 pm

Sautee,

It’s probably because we have no motion offense. All that results from our “offense” is guys shooting 20 footers

LD is an awful head coach

MistaGamer

March 9th, 2011
4:29 pm

This blog is actually very consistant with what I’ve seen over the course of the season. Drew’s offense is just that, a motion offense to create jump shots.

People wonder why they see Josh standing out near the 3 point line, and pull their hair out and scream at him. Actually you should be screaming at the coach.

1.) If you actually pay attention, no one is telling Josh (ie the coach) to move. Or get where he’s supposed to be. That means he is standing where the offense dictates he’s supposed to stand.

2.) Also, he is spaced very properly, and say what you want about Josh (I know I have a few words myself over the course of a game) but he understands the spacing of the offense and where everyone is SUPPOSED to be better than anyone on the team.

What people want to see, and what I want to see, is not an offense that is structured in such a way to invites Josh to jumpers at such a high rate (and believe me it’s not just Josh), but one that invites him and others to roll to the basket to get uncontested or foul inducing drives to the basket. This is motion offense I was hoping to see.

These are LD problems.

MannyT

March 9th, 2011
4:30 pm

THEY ARE A BUNCH OF JUMP SHOOTERS!!!????

Wasn”t the point of the LD magic offense, that he had a much more flexible, wide open set offense than Woody? I recall hearing that it had elements of the Princeton offense where they have a bunch of jump shooters, BUT also make excellent use of the back cut off of that weave to get easy buckets. I would think a back cut would give Josh or Marvin an excellent opportunity to get a layup.

What in the world is going on?

Bruce Mac

March 9th, 2011
4:33 pm

Who cares, it’s the Hawks? Obviously, nobody based on attendance less the opponents fans.

Sautee

March 9th, 2011
4:34 pm

Rufus,

“We need to start a real center, that will rebound and defend.”

I truly know what you mean, but I must point out that Horford is THIRD among centers in rebounding. So that’s a little unfair. And he’s acknowledge as a good position defender, though he definitely doesn’t protect the rim enough in his help defense. And he was named by the coaches as an All-Star at the center position, NOT PF.

Many teams in the league would love to have him as their center. But unless we can acquire an All-Star caliber center who is a better shotblocker, I’d say hold on to Horford. And hope that he’ll play more often like the last Bulls game.

Blast

March 9th, 2011
4:35 pm

The roof is crumbling in Hawksville! Help!!!!!!!

MsDee

March 9th, 2011
4:38 pm

I think what we need to do this off season, is see if New Jersey Nets would do us a HUGE favor in taking Joe Johnson off our hands. They are the only team that could do that willingly since they 1) have a billionaire owner who can afford Joe, & 2) since they were unable to land Lebron or Melo, the next best SG would be Joe. Him along side Deron Williams would be great in the eyes of their owner. The only downside for us is that the Nets would then be holding all the cards. We probably wouldnt get anybody of any value in return since they will look at it that they are helping us out by taking Joe off our hands. We would then be stuck with straps off their bench and future draft picks that we OBVIOUS dont know how to use. So Hawks fans, WHAT WOULD U DO? Trade Joe to the Nets for straps, or just, well..keep him?

W.R.Terrell

March 9th, 2011
4:39 pm

I just read what ISO Joe said. The team from 1-5 are pretty much jump shooters. Can you believe that? He as much said they can’t play basketball. The HAWKS are paying him 20 mill a year for that kind of mindset. No wonder. Josh Smith can’t shoot worth a crap. ISO Joe can make a few but jump shooting team?.That’s a crock of garbage, they are suppose to be ball players and that’s the real facts. None of them are good enough to live and die by jump shooting. Get rid of him and let all those sorry azz jump shooters go someplace else. This is getting more STOO-PID by the minute. They are really a farce and we continue to cheer for a fiasco. There’s a no ball playing mentality in these “SOFT’S”, it is evident everytime you watch the “smoove” fella, ISO and the rest of his jump shooting cronies. I really hope good riddance is in our future for these sorry group of ball players.

jfreak13713

March 9th, 2011
4:40 pm

If the coach can’t have the players playing to their actual talents instead of their desired talents then this team has little to no chance. The inmates are certainly taken over the prison at this point. This team needs to be broken up to some extent. Start with Josh Smith who seemps spoiled rotten and the coach who seems over his head.

drmaryb (*_*)

March 9th, 2011
4:41 pm

Re – Hashed!

SteveW, what’s up baby? Man, that delayed response was tied to a conversation we had what? Two weeks ago. Man, catch up!

You continually miss my point. I don’t know how else to explain it, if you don’t want to hear it? Again, The Hawks are NOT the: Lakers, Spurs or Celtics! Those teams are proven, balanced at every position two deep.

Sure, they can draft a project player and develop it alongside:
Phenomenal talent Phenomenally. They can all hide developmental players behind HOF players and not skip a beat! Sure, Rondo looks like gold playing with now 4 HOF’ers.

Why so impressed?
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Please don’t compare “The Orangutans” who run The Hawks to those
storied franchises. Those storied franchises deserve better.
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SteveW? Fast forward three weeks and holler at your girl.

Sautee

March 9th, 2011
4:42 pm

Joe: “But one through five, we all are jump shooters. That’s pretty much what it is.”

Now what does this say about the former and current GMs? No slashers to be found unless you count Marvin once every other game.

No wonder our defense has so much trouble with slashers. They NEVER face one in practice.

And does anybody else remember the Joe Johnson that played in Phoenix? Back then he slashed. Now he’s a self-admitted jumpshooter, lol.

JM

March 9th, 2011
4:43 pm

Let’s just hope LD can add a couple of plays that have players (Al and Smoove, maybe Marvin) motioning to the basket. Gotta believe JJ is still hurt and Sund needs to tell Jamal to play for a contract. Light a f*&!ing fire man! Scratch Marvin, we need someone to finish at the rim not fall out of bounds. Come on Hawks, damn!