Atlanta Hawks: J.J.: ‘We all are jump shooters. That’s pretty much what it is.’
J.J. may have gotten to the crux of the matter when asked today if the way for the Hawks to get their offense back on track is to attack the basket.
“Maybe,” he said. “But you look at a jump-shooting team–we are a jump-shooting team. If shots are falling then, great, we are rolling. But one through five, we all are jump shooters. That’s pretty much what it is. Like I said, if we are making shots then we are probably unstoppable. But when we are not making shots those are the games we have to grind out.”
With the notable exceptions of the recent games against Portland and Chicago, the Hawks haven’t been able to “grind out” against better opponents. They remain, essentially, a group that wins by outscoring opponents, and one that generally must do so by making a high percentage of their long jump shots.
They still do so at an above-average rate for the season but not well enough to counteract their lack of scoring on free throws, their below-average 3-point shooting and their conversion of 2.4 full less baskets at the rim per game than the average NBA team. Atlanta’s effective field-goal percentage has nearly dipped to the league average.
Go figure: The Hawks now have a below-average NBA offense and an above-average defense. The Hawks had a much more efficient offense last season because they were much better at offensive rebounding and taking care of the ball.
I figured all along Atlanta wouldn’t be as efficient scoring this season, with a potential trade off that they wouldn’t be as predictable to defend in the playoffs. I didn’t know the offense would end up falling off this much. And now they are predictable in another way. It used to be that the ball stayed on one side of the floor as Joe did his thing so the defense had it easy. Now the proper plan vs. the Hawks is to induce them into taking long jump shots, collect the rebounds and beat them in transition as they scramble.
Back to J.J.’s point: Since the Hawks are clearly best at regularly creating open jump shots (no small thing in the NBA) and making them, why shouldn’t they just keep jacking jumpers until they fall and try to grind when they don’t? Their rate of making them is going to fluctuate but at least we know they can do it. Eventually. I mean, right?
What are the other options with this roster? They have no post game to speak of, unless L.D. can suddenly convince Smoove that he’s better off in the paint (unlikely since both men see this as a viable option). Joe, Jamal and Al can attack off the dribble but Joe isn’t making his floater now, Jamal’s iso game seems stymied by the offense and Al is more pick-and-pop than pick-and-roll or drives.
The Hawks can try to run more but that means defending, rebounding and/or forcing turnovers (which the Hawks do at a below-average rate). Running also means more turnovers, unless Kirk Hinrich (who is off to a high-turnover start with Atlanta) can organize the break.
And, anyway, the design of L.D.’s offense, at least as recently executed, seems to lend itself to creating open jump shots. Notice that when he talked about a Plan B yesterday, it involved feigning jump shots and driving to the basket past closing defenders. In other words, the main impetus is getting an open jumper and then using that threat to create a better shot, not getting that better shot through the execution of the offense in the first place.
What happened to all the post-ups and cuts we saw in the preseason and early in the year? Dare I say more Iso-Joe and Iso-Jamal going at the basket is a better plan than swinging the ball around only to jack up long jump shots anyway?
“I just think we have to continue to know where we are trying to get to and know who we are trying to get to score that play, whatever it is,” Jamal said. “If we point the ball in a certain direction I think we will be more efficient offensively.”
“We have to be more aggressive going to the basket,” Al said. “I think we can get baited into taking a lot of jump shots. Even though we are good jump shooters, at the end of the day you have to have a balance. We have to be able to do both to be successful.”
If he’s right about that but the Hawks just can’t do it because, as J.J says, the are a jump-shooting team at heart, then they are capable of looking really good in the playoffs because those shots are falling or really bad because they are not. Taking into account the nature of the playoffs, Atlanta’s poor ability to stick to a plan, and the fragile psyche as exposed by Orlando last spring, do you think the jump-shooting Hawks can carry the day as an underdog in a seven-game series?
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tom
March 9th, 2011
5:39 pm
essentially the same team as last year, you could argue they have some better bench players this year……seems like their inconsistencies are mental. the team needs to see a freaking psychiatrist or something. induce some hypnosis!
slimjr
March 9th, 2011
5:40 pm
Al and Josh have major flaws in their footwork with their back to the basket! That’s why they fail in the post up game many nights..They just don’t have the natural ability to score the ball night in and night out.. Its the GM’s job to figure that out and get the players that do!!! We need a scorer at the critical 3 to help take pressure off the 2 and 4 with the scoring load..We got Marvina avg 4 pts a night.. 3-7 pace every 10 games…next year wont make the playoffs with that crap……………….This year sliding fast to the 7th-8th position to be annihilated…
ag
March 9th, 2011
5:41 pm
Double Zero Eight
March 9th, 2011
5:23 pm
Marvin is the opposite of priceless….he is “useless”.
lol….
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 9th, 2011
5:41 pm
all these years of “chemisty” and “core” and JJ still doesnt know Josh Smith isnt a jump shooter?? 1-5…jump shooters?
phil
March 9th, 2011
5:42 pm
Amazing stupidity on JJ’s part. Or maybe not. Josh Smith a jump shooter? Then Atlanta is a tiny unincorporated southern town. Surely he was kidding…Josh Smith can block a shot and dunk hard. Wow. That’s where it ends. Jump shooting teams lose. a lot.
phil
March 9th, 2011
5:43 pm
Marvin just flat can’t play.
slimjr
March 9th, 2011
5:46 pm
Marvin is without a doubt A COMPLETE BUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
slimjr
March 9th, 2011
5:52 pm
If we could draft the next MJ, the Hawks could pack the dome 41 nights a year!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And if I could grow to 7′5′ with a 39 inch vertical??????????????? Smack yourself Slim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL
ag
March 9th, 2011
5:54 pm
Slim, I really like Josh on the block. He has a nice baby hook and he passes out of the double team very well. Gasol left his shoes on the court with that fake Josh gave him, but was bailed out by that foul on Kobe. I am sure Josh has to be amoung the top 10 players in dunks. My conclusion, he is a good down low player
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
March 9th, 2011
5:54 pm
soft, finesse guards (Joe and Teague) cant even knock their floaters down regularly. God forbid they ever take it strong, might draw a little contact.
JeJe
March 9th, 2011
5:56 pm
FIRE WOODY
JeJe
March 9th, 2011
5:56 pm
I FEEL LIKE TEAGUE AIRBALLS HALF THE FLOATERS HE TAKES
LOL!
Puzzled
March 9th, 2011
5:56 pm
Mr. Horford, the Hawks are not a “good” jump shooting team!!!!
MikeH
March 9th, 2011
5:57 pm
Enter your comments here
tyger
March 9th, 2011
5:57 pm
WHO CARES ANYMORE?
Sautee
March 9th, 2011
6:00 pm
slim,
Once again, I’ll disagree. Al is robotic in the low post, but not from his footwork. And Josh made huge strides two summers ago with his footwork when he worked under Olajuwon.
While neither player could say it was a strength, I disagree that it’s a “major flaw”.
For me Josh’s “major flaw” is his lack of emotional control. For Al, it’s his lack of aggressiveness.
O'Brien
March 9th, 2011
6:01 pm
Isnt it ironic that the head coach and the players have a pretty good idea what the problem is, but NONE OF THEM are able to do anything about it during the course of a game?
As for Jamal, sure, he cna be used in a sign and trade (under the current CBA). But that would mean the Hawks would have to go over the luxury tax next season. And as we know, they will only go over the LT line for the right player (like LeBron).
terrell
March 9th, 2011
6:02 pm
I get it. No wonder they took Marvin over Paul and Dwill.And no wonder the fellas were pissed about losing Bibby. And no wonder LD lets Josh, JJ, and Jamal, continue to chuck em up. They’re just a jumpshooting team. lol! What a joke. LD should be fired. I’m sorry. Everybody and theire mother knows that Josh belongs in the paint. I’m starting to miss Woody. And thats saying a lot. He was an idiot sometimes, but LD is in over his head.
MikeH
March 9th, 2011
6:04 pm
You guys will soon do what I do….I tune into the game only once now and that is during the second half somewhere around the end of the 3rd quarter…If we are close then I usually watch it till it gets out of hand…However, if we are already down by 10 or more in the 3rd then I quickly turn the station and read online tomorrow how the Hawks fared…This simple practice has saved me from countless nights of stress and sleep depravation..Seriously, this is what I do and until the Hawks get serious about winning I will not watch a full game..Won’t do it
Sautee
March 9th, 2011
6:06 pm
From MC:
“Taking into account the nature of the playoffs, Atlanta’s poor ability to stick to a plan, and the fragile psyche as exposed by Orlando last spring, do you think the jump-shooting Hawks can carry the day as an underdog in a seven-game series?”
It will certainly depend on the match up. But I’m not hopeful, at this point.
O'Brien
March 9th, 2011
6:07 pm
Najeh,
I agree about our GM putting all his eggs in one basket by overpaying to keep his players. As a result, he was forced to either overpay JJ, or potentially miss the playoffs this year (although to MistaGamer’s point, the Hawks might have been able to qualify for the playoffs even if its as an 8th seed).
Question. Would you have traded Josh last year for Amare (if that deal was possible, as some people suggested)?
MikeH
March 9th, 2011
6:14 pm
I am a big believer in teams that play 9 or 10 deep. You have to have that kind of depth in order to apply constant pressure and survive with the so called super teams. We are never going to have the kind of roster where we can compete just playing 6 to 8 guys everynight without forcing our will. We need constant pressure and constant rotations and as players develop and they will develop because they play everynight then you will have a team that can compete because of they LEARN to do it everynight
O'Brien
March 9th, 2011
6:15 pm
JJ’s comment implies our starting Center and our starting PF are jump shooters too. And I agree. However, Josh is not as good a jump shooter as he thinks he is.
Its also proof to me that Teague deserves more PT, because as we all know, he is not a jump shooter
Tremaine
March 9th, 2011
6:16 pm
Glad to see that the hawks get it. Now lets see what they do about.
Tremaine
March 9th, 2011
6:17 pm
“START JEFF TEAGUE!”
Sautee
March 9th, 2011
6:18 pm
O’B,
If Amare were here would he be a jump shooter too?
Ron
March 9th, 2011
6:19 pm
In regards to the jump shooting, some of you may call me crazy for saying this, but I’ve said from day one that jumpshooting is what this type of offense is predicated upon. That’s basically what the princeton motion offense is, for the most part. I’ve said from day one that it makes very little sense for our team to utilize a system like this. This type of system is supposed to emphasize the strengths of your team when you do not have athletes. On a team which lacks speed, quickness, athleticism, and other physical attributes, a motion system maximizes the shooting strengths of the team and allows a team which excels in that area to maximize their ability.
However, our starting 5 is not Stephen Curry, JJ Reddick, Kyle Korver, Ryan Anderson, and Matt Bonner. While we do have some outstanding shooters for their positions in guys like Al Horford, that doesn’t mean that jump shooting is our strength, or that we should predicate our entire attack off of jump shots. This is a team whose strength is their physicall ability; their speed and athleticism.
Rather than using our talents to run, slash, attack the basket, wear down opponents on the offensive glass, go up and over the defense with lobs, etc., we play to our weaknesses by trying to turn our entire roster into jumpshooters. Zaza, Damien, Collins, Hilton Armstrong, and even Josh are not great jump shooters, and by having guys like Josh stand around on the perimeter, we are making terrible use of our team’s assets.
As awful as Woodson was, even he did a better job of getting the team to play to its strengths, and I am no fan of Woodson. At least Woodson had us using our athleticims to be one of the best offensive rebounding teams in the league and he had Josh and Al doing most of their damage in the paint. For the record, I have no problem with Al doing some of his damage from the outside with his remarkable jump shooting, but I don’t want guy like Al to settle for only jump shots.
Right now, I feel as though Drew is encouraging his players to shoot the ball from outside way too much. I know that he says otherwise in post-game interviews sometimes, however, in his actions and the plays he often draws up, you can see that his attack is deeply predicated on jump shooting. He has even said publicly that he wants Josh to feel confident taking those outside shots when he is open and in rhythm because he practices those shots. He has also said that Al’s jump shot is his advantage and he wants him taking it with confidence more than he wants him in the post. Even Zaza is starting to take more jump shots.
I truly believe that coach Drew has been a terrible influence on this team, and I just don’t see us progressing any further until we cut ties with him. While there are some players that are rebellious at times (e.g. Josh), I feel like a lot of the guys on this team just do what they are told, especially players like Al, and if Al is taking more and more jump shots, along with everyone else, it has to be for a reason other than he just likes taking them. Under Woodson, Al played at center the vast majority of the time, and he showed no reluctance to attack larger opponents in the post. I remember him routinely shooting jump hooks over guys like Ilgauskas and going right at Dwight in the post, even if he was unsuccessful. Now, there’s also the fact that Al wasn’t as effective with his jump shot last season as he is now, perhaps making him less likely to take it before. But, still, I just find it odd that all of our players seem to want to take jump shots this season, when that wasn’t their approach before. When Drew calls a play for a pick-and-roll or something that involves guys attacking the basket, they typically do it with little to no resistance. For example, every time I can remember Drew calling for Al to roll to the basket in late game plays, Al has attacked the basket with force and either converted or gotten fouled. If he’s willing to do this, I find it odd that he wouldn’t be willing to post-up more. He has even said himself that he feels his post-game is one of his strengths.
Josh, seems like his infatuation with the jump shot is slightly more self-induced, but I also believe that if Josh were motivated and disciplined by a real head coach who actually enforced accountability, he would probably very willingly take his game into the low post and find great success there.
At this point, I firmly believe that it is not just the fault of our players. Each of them has flaws, but under the right leadership and coaching, I feel like our players could really be a lot more effective, and our team could be a lot better. The talent is there, we just haven’t had a capable leader on the sidelines who has been able to get the players to harness that talent and use it to the best of their ability. That’s what we’re missing, and I don’t expect our problems this season to disappear. Only when we hire a real head coach who shows no favoritism and actually rewards/disciplines players based upon obedience and production will we improve.
MikeH
March 9th, 2011
6:25 pm
For examply, did anyone notice how Tony Douglas, and the Fields guy (Knicks) stayed in our guards pockets all night….Harassed them and anyone else that dared to over dribble the ball and while they did not shoot particularly well they caused turnovers and bad shots from our guys all night…Their constant pressure wore us down and in the end they were as responsible for that win as any of the so called stars…a team full of guys like them can win way more in the league and playoffs than the Hawks as they are currently constructed. The closest we have to guys like that are Horford, Wilkins, Hinrich, maybe Teague, and Smooth if they were developed properly
Sautee
March 9th, 2011
6:26 pm
Ron,
about this on Larry Drew: “He has also said that Al’s jump shot is his advantage and he wants him taking it with confidence more than he wants him in the post.”
I don’t ever remember LD saying that. Ever.
Do you have a link? Or a source?
aFan
March 9th, 2011
6:29 pm
In Jesus name we pray AMEN.
Ron
March 9th, 2011
6:30 pm
Sautee,
Here’s an excerpt from the article:
“The knock on Horford was that, despite his considerable talent and skills, he needed to become more effective scoring in the post against bigger and stronger players. Drew didn’t deny that, but he also told his All-Star center that he would need to force bigger and stronger defenders away from the basket, where they aren’t as comfortable.
“Can he post guys? Yeah, he can post guys,” Drew said. “But the strength of his game is the ability to pick-and-pop.”"
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-hawks/al-horford-picks-and-815731.html
It’s not in the exact words that I mentioned, but I definitely see an indication from Drew that he wants Horford to play away from the basket more to utilize “his advantage”. This is not the only time he’s said something of this nature either.
Ron
March 9th, 2011
6:32 pm
By the way, that’s exactly what Horford did last night. He tried to force Bynum away from the basket and took lots of jump shots. Most likely, that was part of Drew’s game plan.
Sautee
March 9th, 2011
6:36 pm
Ron,
If it’s not the exact words then do NOT say that he “said it” when he didn’t.
I get your point (and agree that Horford should drive more) but you weaken it when you try to attribute false words to strengthen the argument. You didn’t need to. Just say “in my opinion……”
It’s ok , of course, to not like LD, but at least be fair and not fill his mouth with words never said.
Michael Cunningham
March 9th, 2011
6:39 pm
@mykhalc: “@MC…this same confrontation happened last year when Woody got on Bibby about passin’ the ball to Josh. Bibby’s reply was ‘he was open. and if you don’t want him there change the play design’.”
yes, happened more than once, too. Bibby had a good point, i think.
Michael Cunningham
March 9th, 2011
6:42 pm
@O’Brien: “As for Jamal, sure, he cna be used in a sign and trade (under the current CBA). But that would mean the Hawks would have to go over the luxury tax next season. And as we know, they will only go over the LT line for the right player (like LeBron).”
not necessarily. the Hawks could take back picks and/or cheaper players if the trading partner has cap space.
Ron
March 9th, 2011
6:45 pm
Sautee,
I was typing a very long post, perhaps I could have used a different word than “said”, but I really didn’t think it was a big deal. I feel like my interpretation is pretty accurate, and at the time when I typed that up, I didn’t recall what the EXACT quote was word-for-word, but after looking it up, I still feel like it was a pretty good interpretation. In essence, I was paraphrasing what I remembered Drew saying. I wouldn’t call that trying to “attribute false words”. I think you’re nitpicking a bit here. I was off a bit in my recollection of what he said, but it’s not like I was trying to make up entirely false statements and pass them off as Drew’s. I just paraphrased what I remembered him saying to the best of my memory, I think a lot of people would interpret that statement in the same sense that I did.
Big Daddy
March 9th, 2011
6:46 pm
Josh and Al have come outside because no one passes the ball inside when they are down low. To their way of thinking why should I bang down inside to watch JJ, JC or anyone else dribble the ball around outside then jack up a 3. All you get to do then is run down to the other end and try to get back on defense. And, when they do pass the ball inside they are so inept at doing that it gets picked off for a turnover. So they come outside and that is the only way they will get any touches. That is why when one of them does shoot, you see 3 or 4 of the opposing team around the the basket.
What it looks like is the players are not running the plays and only passing the ball around on the inside. When you draw up plays you do it so that the plays can pass the ball to where you want it to go. The movement creates passing lanes and the pass is made giving the ball to the player in a good position to make a move or take a shot. That does not happen. LD probably draws it up, but the guys don’t execute. He has lost their ear.
Luke Cage668
March 9th, 2011
6:49 pm
This team will be different next season, Horford, Joe, Kirk & Teague will most likely be the players that stay, everyone else will be traded or released, the team as its constructed now will struggle in the 1st rd of the playoffs and if they survive that will be decimated again in the 2nd.
This “Core” has basically ran its course, I think Josh has reached his ceiling which is sad because he so much upside its incredible, Marvin, sorry bub but your garbage. Crawford is a great scorer but dribbles too much and runs on offense whatsoever.
So I won’t be totally blown up because Joe & Al will still be here but there will be changes on this team which sadly will force this team to take a step backwards before moving forward.
James
March 9th, 2011
6:51 pm
Ron, great 6:19 pm post. I strongly agree. I like the fact that Drew is encouraging ball movement, but I really don’t feel like we play to our strengths either. A lot needs to change, and I think that change has to start on the sidelines. Drew is not a bad coach, he just has a lot to learn, and I don’t necessarily blame him for the team’s shortcomings, but I feel like it was a big mistake, actually a huge mistake, to hire a rookie head coach, who already had strong relationships with some of the players, to improve our 53 win team. That’s a big task for anyone to accomplish, and Drew is in way over his head from what I can see. I think he means well, but he just doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Nate ArchiBALL
March 9th, 2011
6:54 pm
Enter your comments here
Big Daddy
March 9th, 2011
6:55 pm
James, that is exactly where Phil Jackson was when he took over the Chicago Bulls. There are number of assistant coaches who have taken over after a head coach left. The question is was LD the real person to take over?
Monger
March 9th, 2011
6:55 pm
I will end this and sum it up like this…Here is the problem…Our main man….
How many times have you seen Lebron this season drive the lane and slam down a dunk on two guys to bring his team back in the 4th quarter?? 10? 15? 20?
How about Dwayne Wade???
Derrick Rose??
How many times has Kobe carried his team on his back and nailed 4 straight 3’s to stretch the lead???
And then you have this sorry excuse for a basketball “player” Joe Johnson, the reason you guys are scratching your head and cant think of a single time Joe has driven hard to the basket and put a thunderous dunk on someone is because it hasnt happened. He is too soft and cant carry this team to save his life. Thats allright, because he is a “jump shooter” right? Well he is even worse at that, I cant tell you how many 1-9 and 2-14 shooting nights he has had, and the only difference is while Kobe is swishing 4 straight 3’s in the 4th, Joe is bricking 4 straight 3’s and then Kirk Hinrich throws away a few passes and then Josh Smith misses a few more shots—BOOM- down 20!!
These clowns really think they are “jumpshooters”…. maybe for a small-town high school team, other than that,,,,funny
@HawkSquawkLive
March 9th, 2011
6:57 pm
Ok, I’ve thought long and hard about this one and I think I’ve got it. Hear me out:
1.) Larry Drew is a 1st year coach and while everyone was praising him for the Hawks doing good before the All Star break, I don’t think his coaching this team has made them better, I don’t think it has done anything.
2.) Drew is trying to get the Hawks to play his scheme, but it has pretty much still been Woodson’s scheme because the players were all used to playing that with each other and those are the main pieces: the players who’ve been together for many years and for some, they’ve never played for other NBA teams.
3.) When Bibby & Mo were traded (two big pieces in the Woody system) that is where the problem starts to stem. Because now, you’ve got more players on the team who never played for Woody.
4.) Hinrich is playing under Drew’s scheme (or trying to) while the other guys aren’t used to it and now trying to adapt what they’ve known as a Hawk for years.
The problem is that Drew is actually the problem now. You’ve got guys who are all playing in different systems and a coach (Drew) who really can’t change things with this lineup.
I almost don’t even blame him. I think he wants to and tries to change it, but he can’t.
James
March 9th, 2011
7:01 pm
Big Daddy,
To answer your question: No, Larry Drew was not the guy who should have taken over. I’m not just saying that it is a bad idea to hire a rookie head coach to take over a franchise that is on the brink of elite status and trying to improve on some very lofty goals. I’m also saying that the fact that ASG chose to hire someone who was not only an assistant under the head coach that was let go, but was also the guy who had strong relationships with many of the players, was a terrible idea. It’s clear that Drew already has a strong relationship with guys like Joe and Josh, and his starting 5. That’s the reason why he simply just carries over the same trends from last season, as far as the rotation goes. Drew already established that comfort zone with the players long ago. He is not going to change things or enforce accountability at this point, and that is one huge reason why. I really feel like the best thing the Hawks could have done this offseason was to sign an accomplished head coach with experience, someone with a plan, and someone who was new to the players, someone who wouldn’t play favorites right off the bat.
Big Daddy
March 9th, 2011
7:04 pm
I know a lot of us, including myself sometimes, scream about the jumpshots Josh takes. What I have started doing is going to the box score after games and looking at the stats. Josh really are not bad and he is probably the most consistent player on the team in rebounding, points, steals and blocks. So, why does he infuriate us? Probably because he takes that shot at the worse possible time, early in the shot clock or when there is room for him to drive the ball. And, like I said earlier, if he goes down low, he won’t see the ball because the point guard, shooting guard, shooting guard or sixth man will jack up a long jump shot. He and Al don’t touch the ball with Bibby, now Kirk, JJ, MW and JC jacking up long jump shots. So now they are going out and taking their shots also. LD has to put a stop to that.
Dept. of Intended Rudeness
March 9th, 2011
7:11 pm
Sautee, the most common form of an ellipsis is a row of three periods or full stops (…) or pre-composed triple-dot glyph (…). In the United States, the correct notation for an ellipsis is “. . .” per Modern Language Association (MLA) standards. The use of ellipsis can either mislead or insult, and the reader must rely on the good intentions of the writer who uses them.
In the future, please do NOT use more than 3 dots to signify an ellipsis. It weakens the etiquette, punctuation, grammar, and composition of the post, thereby weakening it’s credibility. (A special thanks to Wikipedia.org for providing this concise and concrete description).
Also, for whomever is using the word “consistant”. Please realize that the correct spelling of the word is “consistent”, and refrain from using incorrect spelling in future posts. If you continue with this trend, it may result in drmaryb having a nervous breakdown.
Thank you for your cooperation. Isn’t it fun to waste time policing posts? Perhaps, someone will police this one.
NorcalHawk
March 9th, 2011
7:25 pm
Hawks have so many weak areas, it’s hard to focus on just jumpers. But since JJ raised the issue, here’s a question: how much better would our offense be if JJ and Jamal were making THEIR shots? The offense last year revolved around those two; this season what are their FG percentages, about 40?
You can play all the D you want, you still need your best scorers to step up.
MistaGamer
March 9th, 2011
7:30 pm
@MC “this basically seemed to be Bibby’s defense when L.D. got on him during games for passing to Josh on the perimeter.”
I never knew that actually happened. At least Bibby confirms the same complaint I had with Woody and now LD. I guess it really is true that the apple doesn’t fall too far from the Woody tree. At least on this issue lol.
We didn’t see Bynum and Gasol, or most teams bigs, camped out near the 3 point line. And that’s because their offenses don’t put them there. It seems like 60-80% of our plays have Josh out near the 3 point line. And every time I see it I just smh. That’s THE biggest reason why we get pounded on boards.
I can’t understand why people think that Josh is standing out there because he just so stubbornly wants to. He is just being where he’s supposed to be in this offense.
drmaryb (*_*)
March 9th, 2011
7:35 pm
Ron, Sautee is absolutely correct. It is NEVER ok to misquote or put strong words in someone else’s mouth. If, you do the Truth-o-Meter will goo far left, indicating a “Pants on Fire” LIE.
Again, you can surmise all you want all day long, but if you tell a bald-face lie and put it in quotes? Sautee will call you out and hold your feet to the fire, relentlessly and for days. No one will stop him and he will win.
See JeJe. Sautee will break the bad habit of telling lies on people.
And, yes Sir! It is a BIG DEAL.
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So, CYA: e.g.
IMHO, IMO, allegedly, correct me if I’m wrong, I believe he sadi, I think I’m correct when I say, supposedly, bear with me while I paraphrase:
are all great prepositional phrases to use when drawing others comments into your own comments and opinions! Misquotes are poisonous in todays media markets filled with super highways of credible and incredible information. Ron, IDK if you knew this, but your blogs can actually appear on search pages if your key words are googled.
That Ron, makes your words very powerful. Celebrities actually sue reporters who report lies for millions in damages.
Why? Because some people actually believe everything they see on TV and read in Magazines. If he were alive, you could ask Michael Jackson (rip). Printed lies cost him a lifetime of hard work and eventually caused his death. He actually died the day the LIES were printed.
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darrell starks
March 9th, 2011
7:37 pm
drmaryb stop drinking that grape coolaid like LD BE DOING, you said size with out talent is irrelevant, size matter period you don’t need 2 be a superstar or a good center, but if your 6′11 or 7′0 you cant tell me that you can’t contribute on defense and having a presence in the paint that come with coaching, if you have a coach who don’t understand the importance of having that big 2 defend in the post then his coach abillty is non exist he have no knowledge or clue on coaching.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!