Hinrich to start, Smith out for Hawks

sam'l

March 2nd, 2011
12:13 pm

Now how are we supposed to win a game against Chicago without Smith?

Use every player on the bench……two platoon…..go all friggin out every second of the game and keep subbing. Hit the Bulls with so much defensive energy they can’t stand it. Put Crawford in the starting lineup and run up a 25-15 first quarter with Johnson Horford and Crawford bombing away inside out and with 2 man screens.

Go Hawks!

Go Hawks.

sam'l

March 2nd, 2011
12:16 pm

Better yet….take Marvin Williams aside and tell him this is his game……and the ball will be coming to him. Take an extra hour practice and be prepared for a 20-point game.

I’m done…anyway those are a couple of things I’d do…….A team prayer might help……

doc

March 2nd, 2011
12:23 pm

@northcyde:

No way should Collins or Etan start tonight.

ummmm WAY!

as granville once said, nfl … not for long.

K.W.

March 2nd, 2011
12:23 pm

I just hope Josh isn’t out for that long. I wonder if LD will play the other new guy Hilton Armstrong tonight.

According to Mike Bibby he didn’t have the ball in his hands when with the Hawks. What makes him think with two guys named Dwyane Wade & LeBron James on the Heat he will get the ball more???

AtWork

March 2nd, 2011
12:27 pm

I just wish LD would have said that about Teague. Its a shame. His defense is good and his floor presence is getting better. I could see a difference from the first game he started to Denver. I think he can do it…escpeically if he learns that he CAN score and not to defer to Jamal or Joe every time. Take it to the basket and make a play. That is what this team needs. A driver. Force the issue and both sides of the floor. Teague can do it…just give him a chance!

Section 303

March 2nd, 2011
12:28 pm

At some point these injuries have to stop, right? Hawks have to be near the top on the list of teams dealing with the most injuries this season. It’s been one problem after another this year.

niremetal

March 2nd, 2011
12:30 pm

Will Smoove be getting an MRI??

northcyde

March 2nd, 2011
12:35 pm

@ doc

LOL . . just watch and see what happens. Noah will be all over the boards, and Drew will have to take Collins out the game. It’s a recipe for disaster, especially with Smith not being to help on the boards. We need a good rebounding game out of Zaza, or a great one out of Horford.

*****

People won’t say this, but Teague played himself out of the starting lineup with that performance @ Denver. That was a golden opportunity to really shine, but he couldn’t take advantage of it.

Now that we know that he’ll be the backup PG from now on, I want that kid to play with the same defensive intensity as he did when he was a starter. It shouldn’t matter whom he plays with. Just come with the same amount of effort.

The Truth

March 2nd, 2011
12:35 pm

Josh being out, I’m not optimistic about this game. Scoring will be the biggest problem.

J from the A

March 2nd, 2011
12:39 pm

Worth reposting from the previous blog (from ChicagoNow blog):

tl;dr version: The Hawks are the easiest of the tough teams & the Hawks have the worst home crowd of any team in the NBA.

“[The Bulls] start off with the easiest of those tough games tonight in Atlanta. The Hawks are 2-1 after trading for Kirk Hinrich while playing all three games on the road. They’re well rested as they are coming off two days off from a Sunday tilt against the Nuggets and returning home from a long road trip.

The Bulls aren’t a great road team, but the Hawks have the worst home crowds in the NBA even when playing well. Don’t be surprised if the makeup of the crowd is 25% Bulls fans and if those fans don’t combine to make more noise than the actual Hawks fans. Expect some road MVP chants again tonight.”

J from the A

March 2nd, 2011
12:40 pm

Pape Sy returns from NBA D-league to sit on the Hawks bench for the remainder of the season.

http://atlanta.sbnation.com/atlanta-hawks/2011/3/2/2025093/pape-sy-returns-from-ndbl-will-stay-on-atlanta-hawks-roster-for-rest

J from the A

March 2nd, 2011
12:43 pm

Bold Prediction of the Day: Marvin is going to go off tonight (maybe more defensively than offensively, but still, he will have a very solid game).

[Bold prediction = wishful thinking; Marvin go off? Yeah, right! Well, maybe.]

O'Brien

March 2nd, 2011
12:43 pm

303,

Last year, the Hawks were the healthiest team in the NBA. So its no surprise that the injury bug is biting them over and over again this season. Overall, LD and the team have done well playing through injuries. Tonight will be tough w/o Josh however.

northcyde,

Agreed on Teague. We know that he defers to Jamal too much on offense, but he has no excuses for not getting after it on defense. And this is a game he should be pumped up for.

northcyde

March 2nd, 2011
12:46 pm

@ At Work

If he could do it, why do you think Drew brought in Van Exel just to work with him? People want to hold out hope for him, but ignore GLARING red flags about his game.

And the biggest red flag is that he’s just not a floor leader. He’s played well defensively, but he’s had major problems offensively.

He wasn’t asked to run his team in college, so the transition for him to be a floor leader in the NBA is going to take longer.

He just needs to be a solid player with that 2nd unit. Provide the defense he was playing with the starters, and take advantage of any open court opportunities he has to score the basketball.

Marcus

March 2nd, 2011
12:51 pm

yeesh. No Smoove and kinda underwhelming backups. Tough HOME stretch just got tougher.

lewis

March 2nd, 2011
12:54 pm

Josh Smith was playing great basketball, I don’t think we have a shot without him. He gives us too much. Kirk probably playing hurt. Hope all goes well, but i’m not optimistic.

Ra'mon

March 2nd, 2011
12:54 pm

Rick Sund is a practical joker. The entire blog asks for Brewer, Kapono, Thornton, or Butler, and he gives us Pape Sy, lol. That’s hilarious. But I must admit I am curious to see him play. I actually believe Sy will turn out to be as good as Pietrus, but able to guard the PG position.

Geemack

March 2nd, 2011
12:54 pm

The East has improved…lets see Miami goes out and get CBosh, LBJ, & Mike Bibby. Now they jump from a 6th seed last year to a top 2 seed.

Chicago added Boozer and a stellar defense, and now they are a top 3 seed.

Orlando is still ahead of the Hawks eventhough we’ve beaten them twice.

NY bring in Melo, Amare and Chauncy and now look like threats in the playoffs.

Hinrich was an excellent pick up, but we are still behind the other teams in the league.

Ra'mon

March 2nd, 2011
12:55 pm

By the way, Pape already has a better jumper than Teague.

rusty

March 2nd, 2011
12:56 pm

Yea nortcycyde sit jt azz on the bench where he belongs feed your boy iso joe

O'Brien

March 2nd, 2011
12:56 pm

How many minutes will Jeff Teague play tonight?

Over/Under 13.

I’m thinking over.

J from the A

March 2nd, 2011
12:58 pm

It’s the little things

I, for one, have been a critic of Teague, but I am glad to see his game looking a bit more consistent over the last couple games … but Teague is still far from ready to lead this team as a starting PG.

Among many little things that should tip off anyone that Teague is just not ready is his peculiar inability to make certain passes. Now, I am not saying he makes many bad passes. Rather the claim here is that he fails to make the obvious pass because he doesn’t have the confidence that he can make the pass effectively.

Case in point: In the game against Denver, I counted three times that Teague had the ball, the Hawks had a mismatch in the post, Teague clearly recognized the mismatch, Teague had a good angle to get the pass into the man in the post, but Teague failed to make the pass. These are passes that any point guard in the league need to be able to make (practically) every time. Hell, these are passes that come easy to many non-PGs (see our own Josh Smith for example). But Teague either didn’t feel confident in his ability to make these (relatively) simple passes into the post, or worst yet, decided not to take advantage of the obvious mismatch.

steven a smith

March 2nd, 2011
12:58 pm

As i said before, Josh Smith is the MVP of the Atlanta Hawks; Stevie Wonder can see that. They will not win a game without “Smoove.”

Daniel

March 2nd, 2011
1:00 pm

Geemack- I hear you, but don’t despair. It appears that new ownership is on the horizon.
Why aren’t the Hawks targeting any of the free agents that are available? Or are they and no one is reporting it?

tony

March 2nd, 2011
1:01 pm

Teague(sg) is not a pg. The sooner you realize that the better off you will be.

Hire BILL LAIMBEER!

STRETCH

March 2nd, 2011
1:01 pm

Does anybody have the scoop on Pape Sy? He is back from the D-league.

AtWork

March 2nd, 2011
1:06 pm

@Northcyde

JT’s offense is pretty reluctant at times for sure. Comparing Jeff’s defense to Jamal’s on Felton or Lawson is noticably differnt. What i really want is LD to put him in the fire like he said he was going to do with Kirk. I think that kind of game time would help him develop a lot faster. Plus you are going to know pretty quick if he is going to figure out his game or not.

I guess i am wishing that Teague would wake up this morning thinking about being the aggressor on offense and score 15 points tonight even in limited time. I would even take 10 pts with 3 or 4 steals and 3 assits.

northcyde

March 2nd, 2011
1:07 pm

It is what it is Rusty. Now that I know that Hinrich is starting, we may not need 30+ from JJ. Probably 25+. But we also need 20+ out of both Jamal and Horford..

Inefficient offensive role players do not need to be taking a lot of shots this game. And that includes guys like Marvin ( if he’s cold ), and JJ and Jamal ( if they’re settling for 3s and missing ).

The Bulls are the best defensive team in the league. Our main guys need to lead the way offensively. First team to 90 wins this game tonight.

J from the A

March 2nd, 2011
1:07 pm

Who has the highest basketball IQ on the Hawks?

If you ask Coach Drew, he will tell you without hesitation JOSH SMITH.

Drew has said more than once that Josh has really picked up on the new offense at a much higher level than anyone else. Not only does he know what he is supposed to be doing and where he is supposed to being doing it at, he also knows everyone else’s role for every single play. During offensive sets, look to see who is barking at their teammates trying to get them into the proper position. It is not the PG (though this may change with Hinrich). It is not the supposed team leader Al Horford. It is not Joe Johnson. It is Josh Smith.

I am the first to admit that Josh doesn’t come across as being the brightest bulb of the bunch, but, you know, he just might be. Yes, I know he takes some bad timed jump shots here and there (not nearly as many as you guys make it to be), but he knows his role — and everyone else’s for that matter. That’s more than you can say for anyone else on the team.

KC

March 2nd, 2011
1:14 pm

@tony

well, if Teague isn’t a PG then he sure isn’t a 2 guard. he cannot score. 3-18 in the last 3 games he has started.

northcyde

March 2nd, 2011
1:17 pm

@ J from the A

And don’t think that for one minute that Drew didn’t notice what you noticed. And it’s conceivable to believe that he’s seen that the past 1.5 years in practice.

But people would rather believe that Drew is holding him back, rather than Teague just not being able to do the job competently. Which is why Van Exel was brought in to work with him.

The easiest thing for him to do, is to just go out and play hard all the time. Use his athletic ability to try to affect the game any way possible.

O'Brien

March 2nd, 2011
1:21 pm

northcyde,

Did Rick and his team miss the red flags on Teague, or did they just ignore them?

JeJe

March 2nd, 2011
1:22 pm

Why exactly did we trade for Hilton Armstrong?

JeJe

March 2nd, 2011
1:23 pm

”
Jeje,

Believe me it matters if you say someone is “satisfied” when they never said that.

Anyone who saw your post and had not heard his quote would be given an incorrect perception.

Would you want someone attributing things to you that you never said? I don’t think so. I know you are frustrated with the team and the organization, but perhaps putting out half-truths is not the best way to express that frustration.”

RealGM puts word in peoples’ mouths all the time.

FIRE SUND

O'Brien

March 2nd, 2011
1:23 pm

J from the A,

Josh might have the highest basketball IQ on the team. The problem is, he can be strong willed and stubborn at times, not to mention he loses his focus more than he should, and needs to cut down on his whining.

Judson

March 2nd, 2011
1:23 pm

Knicks just released Corey Brewer. He’d look GREAT in Atlanta. PLUS he and Horford are buddies, and had great chemistry at Fla.

jfreak13713

March 2nd, 2011
1:23 pm

Hawk will lose by double digits. This is a soft team with no true leader and when that are defended they resort to taking long jumpshots instead of driving the basketball. Chicago will pound them inside on offense and defense and the Hawks will fade the in the second half.

Who will stop Rose? Who will stop Boozier? Who will stop Dang? Horford can’t do it all!

steve brown

March 2nd, 2011
1:28 pm

I am still in shock over Teague’s performance in Denver. Who scouted this guy. Whoever it was can not judge talent. A guard without a jump shot in this day and age. Unbelievable.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 2nd, 2011
1:29 pm

Al Horford is more than capable of handling Boozer in the post one on one, and I would think Hinrich and Teague can do at least a reasonable job making Derrick Rose work for his buckets. The problem for the Hawks is going to come on offense. Smoove is too often the catalyst for ball movement on this team, and getting shots near the rim is not going to happen easily with Noah in the lane. Without Smoove, the Hawks have to make a concerted effort to get the ball inside to Al and not let the offense bog down on the perimeter.

If they can consistently move the ball, they have a chance to win in this game.

J from the A

March 2nd, 2011
1:29 pm

@ northcyde:

co-sign 100 %. I think you and I have been the only two posters that have been willing to recognize Teague’s flaws, while most of everyone else has been screaming “FREE TEAGUE!” Teague has a ways to improve before anyone in their right mind goes around “freeing Teague.”

(For example, earlier in the year, most people on this blog were drooling over his “defensive abilities,” but all I saw was a young man that had the talent to be a strong defensive guard but clearly lacked the fundamentals to even be considered a defensive upgrade over Bibby. Of course, I think he has looked better defensively over the last couple of games, but this is a very recent development …)

Now with that said, I think I might be a little bit more optimistic concerning Teague’s potential. I think he really has the ability to be a solid contributor, possibly even a solid contributor on a really good team. However, he is far from ready to be a leader, even a leader on a bad team.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 2nd, 2011
1:30 pm

I’d also like to see the Hawks making an effort to exploit Korver and Boozer, who are the weakest members of the Bulls’ rotation defensively. Get Joe backing down Korver and get Al driving on Boozer consistently, and watch things open up for everyone else.

lewis

March 2nd, 2011
1:32 pm

Carlos,how can you say that?

You either have selective vision or absolutely no clue what you’re talking about… Josh Smith the defensive anchor of this team. He defends 1-5. He blocks shots. He is an efficient rebounder. He runs the break extremely well. He’s been our energy guy all year. Was doing a great job shutting down Lamarcus Aldridge too before he got injured. Was looking forward to him shutting down Booz. He’s long, he leaps, closes passing lanes, he’s a pest, and I don’t see us winning a game without him. What’s your beef, that he’s an average jumpshooter? That he complained a lot in the past? Dude has grown up and improved every season.

Relying on inconsistent guys like Joe, Jamal and Bibby is why we lose games. Al and Josh are a borderline elite defensive duo with Teague/Hinrich at the point.

Freshfromatl

March 2nd, 2011
1:33 pm

I would still have confidence in this game if I knew someone would step up in Josh absence (such as Marvin Williams). But I doubt it will happen.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 2nd, 2011
1:33 pm

“A guard without a jump shot in this day and age. Unbelievable.”

Rajon Rondo can’t shoot. Derrick Rose was an inconsistent shooter when he came in the league. John Wall is an inconsistent shooter. There are several ways Teague can make up for not having a consistent jumper, and he’s already displayed one — his defense. I am more interested in seeing him penetrate defenses and get fouled, since nobody else on the Hawks can do that. He can work on his jumper in the offseason. For the rest of this season, he needs to get in the lane aggressively and put the pressure on opposing defenses.

JeJe

March 2nd, 2011
1:34 pm

WE COULD’VE SIGNED AL FREAKING THORNTON. A TRUE ATLIEN BASKETBALL STUD WHO WOULD’VE ROUNDED OUT THE SF ROTATION WITH MARVIN

GOOD JOB, SUND AND ASG. YOU SAVED ALL THAT MONEY LAST SUMMER FOR A REASON. WE HAVE THE FREAKING MLE TO SPEND. THROW SOME DAMN MONEY OUT THERE AND GET COREY BREWER SINCE U ALREADY FAILED ON THORNTON

F

J from the A

March 2nd, 2011
1:34 pm

@ O’Brien

Re: 1:23 post. I don’t disagree with your point here. My comment was more directed toward those that are constantly filling these boards with the “josh has a low BB IQ” trash.

Yes, Josh is a little bit stubborn at times, a bit too whiny for my tastes, and his focus can be a little less than consistent sometimes, but he is far from being a basketball dummy!

On the basketball court, he is like that bright but somewhat stubborn leader who has serious flashes of ADHD. j/k … well, kind of …

Grandad

March 2nd, 2011
1:37 pm

Goodness gracious sakes alive:

northcyde —- Teaguer did not play himself out of starting line-up.
When Hawks trade for KH everyone knew he was to be the starter.

J from the A —- 1st of all I like Josh so don’t get your drawers
all puckered up. But his decision making:
[basketball IQ or otherwise] leaves alot to be desired.
We will miss him tonight regardless.

* J.Collins will account for himself nicely.

* Pape Sy did not [statitically] show much in D-league.
Let us hope that he is a defensive stopper.
My hope is that Sy takes Marvin’s job away;
[along with his lunch money].

Grandad

March 2nd, 2011
1:42 pm

J from the A

By the way:
Joe has the lowest B-ball IQ on the team.

Tremaine

March 2nd, 2011
1:42 pm

Am I missing something because Teague wasn’t on the floor when Raymond Felton was lighting the hawks up. People look at the boxscore and assume. This is his second year in the league. He has been playing pretty good defense and gets to the foul line. His job isn’t to score. We have plenty of scorers on this team. “GIVE TEAGUE A CHANCE!”

J from the A

March 2nd, 2011
1:43 pm

What’s going on, grandad? No puckered-up drawers here! Just real talk.

Tremaine

March 2nd, 2011
1:46 pm

Plenty of point guards that have came into the league without a shot (Kidd, Rondo, Sessions). Give the guy time.

MsDee

March 2nd, 2011
1:50 pm

@Najeh on Teague!!

I hate LD wont continue to at least give Teague the ‘Royal Ivey’ treatment. Yeah, so what he offensive sucks right now, HIS DEFENSE IS INCREDIBLE. He traps very well, knows how to cut off his man, block shots on fast breaks…just dont understand why LD has to ALWAYS refer to offense over defense. MAYBE THAT’S WHY WOODSON IGNORED LD AT TIME..HE REALIZED LD ONLY CARED ABOUT OFFENSE AND NEVER DEFENSE. Remember those famous words by Woodson, “DEFense..THAT $HIT WORKS!!”

Fundamentals

March 2nd, 2011
1:54 pm

Teague should get more than 13 tonight to help protect Hinrich’s calf. Dude needs some time to work into major minutes. He needs time to adjust to this team. Teague showed good defense last few games. Felton went off on Jamal, not Teague.

I still say we need to play Hilton to see what he’s apt to give on a nightly basis. Dude is too young, athletic and has shown he can defend and rebound when he wants to. Unlike ZaZa he doesn’t get 5 million a year for the next two. Dude is fighting for another contract. I predict he’ll produce more than Collins, ZaZa or Powell if giving the chance.

I still like Powell, when he’s focussed on D & rebounding.

ZaZa can be an icon here in Atlanta if he brings the hard nose rebounding he did the other night consistently.

Collins is a great defender/glue guy in the right situations. Noah and Boozer will run circles around him.

Fundamentals

March 2nd, 2011
1:55 pm

Woody never could decide which D to switch to though? So maybe Larry never learned which “$h!t actually worked?

Astro Joe

March 2nd, 2011
2:03 pm

I will be interested to see if LD plays Teague against Rose. Don’t be surprised to see Teague only play when Rose is resting.

And remember (for those thinking that a quick PG is needed to guard Rose), that the MVP candidate put up his career high in points against Tony Parker a few weeks ago. And I heard somewhere that Parker has a little quickness to him.

Free Hilton Armstrong, Our Center of the Future!

MustangSalley

March 2nd, 2011
2:11 pm

Marvin Williams should be told that he has been relieved of his job. Marvin should be cut from the team and given his walking papers. Both Marvin along with Smith are the two players who are ruining the team. Josh Smith is a walking turnover waiting to happen. As soon as Smith is given the ball, he immediately makes a poor pass that results in a turnover. Or, if Smith is given the ball out-of-bounds he dribbles down the court as if he is a guard, subsequently turning the ball over foolishly and giving it to the opposing team. The Hawks brass used to say that “THEY WILL LIVE WITH SMITHS LIABILITIES”. But we no longer can afford to because its costing us too many wins. How many more games would the Hawks have won had Smith not continued to turn the ball over repeatedly. Smith is now becomming more of a liabiity than an asset and I say we take Marvin Williams and Josh Smith and package a trade for Dirk Norwinski. That move would benefit the Hawks greatly and move them to the next level of excellence.

AG

March 2nd, 2011
2:13 pm

NorthClyde, I disagree with you. Teague should start and Kirk should come off the bench. With Teague with the starters, they are not looking for his offense. Yet, Powell, ZaZa, Wilkins, Crawford and Teague…..1 vs. 5 for offense production. Teague did a good job in setting up his teammates and running the floor. The Denver game the guys just wore down. Again, use Teague like Woody used Royal Ivey.

tony

March 2nd, 2011
2:18 pm

@KC

Teague was a shooter and dunker at Wake…….I guess you can say he is just a defending guard since most are so fascinated with his defense. He didn’t have much pg skills in college but Mr Sund elected to draft the young man anyway. I was screeming for them to draft Darren Collinson or Eric Maynor. OH WELL!

Point Guard:

Point guard (PG), also called the play maker or “the ball-handler”, is one of the standard positions in a regulation basketball game. A point guard has perhaps the most specialized role of any position – essentially, they are expected to run the team’s offense by controlling the ball and making sure that it gets to the right players at the right time. Above all, the point guard must totally understand and accept his or her coach’s game plan; in this way, the position can be compared to a quarterback in American football.

A point guard, like all player positions in basketball, has specific characteristics that are essential for them to help guide their team to a victory. The Basketball Handbook by Lee Rose describes a point guard as a coach on the floor, who can handle and distribute the ball to teammates. It also states that the more speed a point guard has, the more likely he will be able to create separation and space off the dribble, which allows the point guard room to work. Point guards should also be vocal floor leaders, and should discuss rule interpretations with officials. A point guard must always know the time on both the shot clock and the game clock, the score, the number of timeouts for both teams, and whom to foul late in the game.

Most current NBA point guards are between 5′11″ and 6′4″ (1.93 m) or shorter in height. A true point guard’s job is to create scoring opportunities for his team. The role includes passing and running the offense: setting up plays on the court, getting the ball to the teammate that he feels is in the best position to score, and dictating the tempo of the game. This also means knowing when and how to instigate a fast break and when and how to initiate the more deliberate sets.[1]

Hire BILL LAIMBEER!

mykhalc

March 2nd, 2011
2:19 pm

this team has NO BB IQ..PERIOD!!!! that is the biggest problem. doesn’t matter who is the smartest…the fact is, as a team, they continue to show how they haven’t learned ‘jack squat’ on playin’ smarter ball…PERIOD!!! and this over years NOT just this season!!!

on JT…he hasn’t earned NOTHIN’!!!! the cat looks scared on offense…PERIOD!!! granted his defensive effort is there but when he CANNOT do the main job of a PG, run the offense ( tho that word is a oxymoron for the Hawks) then why should he start??? i can only hope Hinrich brings some ‘real’ stability to the PG position.

speakin’ of BB IQ…LD ain’t showin’ too well either!!!

AG

March 2nd, 2011
2:19 pm

MustangSalley,
Please never post again. The trade deadline is over. Dirk will retire in Dallas. You will see how valuable Josh is after tonight.

Astro Joe
Hilton did not get any playing time with the Wizards. He is not very good.

Fundamentals
Only agree with your comments about Teague. Against Lawton he did very well, only remember he scored 4 points against him. Felton did not do much against Teague either,most of his scoring came against JC and Wilkins. We only need Teague to score 10-13 points when he starts. If the guys would have converted all those assist, Teague would have had 8-10. Maybe he needs to stop throwing the ball to Marvin.

Puzzled

March 2nd, 2011
2:21 pm

Is Collins the best big man option to fill in while Smith is out?

The Truth

March 2nd, 2011
2:24 pm

I think Teague issues have more to do with his head then anything else. He is still carrying the old baggage of being pulled from games when he makes any mistakes. LD has once again confirmed those fears. With Bibby being traded, the young Teague should no longer be viewed as the student intern learning from his master. His role should be extremely vital to the team now that Sund has inadvertently made him pivotal when he traded Bibby away. With no meaningful upcoming draft picks, a bunch of bad contracts and a tight budget, the Hawks will have to live or die with Teague as their future PG. LD hasn’t done the best job nurturing his confidence recalling it was Teague that played an indirect role in LD hiring. Reflecting back, LD used Teague development as his main talking point during his HC interview knowing the owners’ hot buttons. If Teague could shed his fears of making mistakes and rekindle the swagger he once had, his maturation would go to a new level. Right now, he can only complete his training on the big stage of the court and not on the bench. Until then, like his current game the Jedi reward will be deferred.

The Hawks will be the big losers if they’re not cognizant of this. Hinrich , a 30 age old PG, may be a short term fix, but I doubt he’s the long term answer.

mykhalc

March 2nd, 2011
2:30 pm

oh yeah…forgot…Marvin is a bum…PERIOD!!!

Grandad

March 2nd, 2011
2:40 pm

tony

I went down to the library and checked out that same book;
[when I was in the 6th grade];

“The Playmakers Handbook” by Bill Cousey:
with illustrations of:
[between the legs & behind the back]

You should try:
“Dominating the Keyhole” by Bob Russell

Never mind…I got mixed up;
those were two *dirty books that my ma’ma found in my satchel.

joey

March 2nd, 2011
2:42 pm

josh smith has improved his jump shot alot this year, he does need to drive to the basket more but with out josh we are a completley different team definsively.

Grandad

March 2nd, 2011
2:42 pm

My friends tell me:
Grandad…you ain’t right.

JeJe

March 2nd, 2011
2:45 pm

“Plenty of point guards that have came into the league without a shot (Kidd, Rondo, Sessions). Give the guy time.”

Sure has worked out for Acie Law (who spent 4 years in college and was a lottery pick).

LOL

joey

March 2nd, 2011
2:48 pm

1

Fundamentals

March 2nd, 2011
2:48 pm

Hilton has size, youth, defensive skills. The bad rap comes from his “small” hands often losing the ball on offense. Like Teague, we don’t need Hilton for offense, just for scrappy play on the defensive end and garbage put backs on offense. Dude has the physical gifts. He was a lottery pick. Surely someone can use him. He wasn’t a bust NO, just in WAS. Maybe he can be the next Darko, late blooming center.

Fundamentals

March 2nd, 2011
2:51 pm

JeJe – Royal, AC, Teague are much in the same, but what else do we have. Trade deadline is gone. Dude’s gotta produce or we’ll begin a long summer which most likely will end in a lock-out.

Win now is all we got, with what we’ve got…which is essentially nothing at 8-9 of our slots.

SteveW

March 2nd, 2011
3:05 pm

Teague – 0 TO’s and 2 TO’s in the last 2 games. Held Ty Lawson’s game in check with good defensive intensity. Did I miss something? Of course, it’ll take awhile to be a floor leader like Hinirich, who is a natural.

And I don’t think Denver lost Teague the starting job. LD said from the start Hinrich was his starter as soon as he was ready. Started Sunday night didn’t he?

I start Al on Noah
Etan of Boozer – and only excpect Etan to play 15 minutes, but Boozer doesn’t know that. Collins 10 minutes on Boozer, Josh Powell with the rest.
Marvin on Deng
JJ on whoever
Hinrich on Rose – But Teague is going to have to play him alot. I know Hinrich, and he will play at far less than 100% to the detriment of the team. Hope LD realizes this.

I of course bring ZaZa in on Asik and Kurt Thomas, with Hilton helping some on Askik and Taj Gibson.

We can beat these guys even without Smoove, we match up well with them, if LD will do his rotations correctly.

Forget Collins on Noah. It will never work. But for a couple of short stretches on Boozer after Etan works him over, you can mess with Boozer.

Give Boozer the D12 treatment tonite LD. You do a great job with that.

SteveW

March 2nd, 2011
3:08 pm

JeJe – Acie never had 1/2 the quickness Teague has. Teague is in a whole other League athletically. And this team is athletic. Teague just fits.

And if Marvin doesn’t wake up, if a team with a big trade exception wanted him for a lottery pick, like the Cavs, I might take that trade after the season, especially if we’ve scouted and like a 3.

Tremaine

March 2nd, 2011
3:10 pm

The critics of Teague need to remember the point guard we had in the lineup before him. Defensively challanged Mike Bibby. The hawks looked like trash before Teague got a chance.

JeJe

March 2nd, 2011
3:12 pm

The critics of Teague need to remember the point guard we had in the lineup before him. Defensively challanged Mike Bibby. The hawks looked like trash before Teague got a chance.

^Aren’t you scared of Bibby when we play Miami? LOL Bibby still thinks he’s a relevant player in this league

ant banks

March 2nd, 2011
3:12 pm

MUSTANG SALLY,

must be on that CHARLIE SHEEN ISH. lol

SteveW

March 2nd, 2011
3:14 pm

Guys, if you doubt Teague’s value to the team, think this, when Hinrich is hurt, we have only 1 true PG healthy on the roster.

And Sy is on the team looking for the time when our playoff seeding is confirmed, which may be sooner than you think. If we can get some seperation from NY, the last 5-8 games are going to see alot of Sy, Hilton, Powell, Etan, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t sign a vet PG for that stretch, just so we can give Hinrich and Teague some rest before the playoffs.

SteveW

March 2nd, 2011
3:16 pm

The Hawks have looked like a totally different team with Teague in the lineup – for the better. Who were the only 2 Hawks with a + in the +/- stat against the Nuggets? Josh and Teague with +6’s.

craig hendricks

March 2nd, 2011
3:17 pm

somewhere along the line Teague lost his aggressiveness. I remember him going to the hole trying to flush on someone. i I know he is no westbrook but he is athletic. His problem is in his head. van excel was a beast, no fear. Until Teague’s demeanor changes he won’ t play.

Melvin

March 2nd, 2011
3:18 pm

Hawks are under the luxury tax by 167K. They can only sign a player who prorated salary will be equal to or less than that amount to avoid paying the luxury tax penalty.

In other words, they will have to wait around the 12th of March to sign a player to the vet min for the remainder of the season to avoid the luxury tax…..

SteveW

March 2nd, 2011
3:19 pm

Wilkens should get some decent time tonight also. Hope TT doesn’t school LD. Coach’s matter.

Tremaine

March 2nd, 2011
3:22 pm

JeJe, Miami is going to show the Hawks how to use Bibby, from off the bench.

Gwalk

March 2nd, 2011
3:26 pm

I personally think J. Smith could play tonight. If I was a player making all that $$, you would have to break my frekin’ legs before I would not play. Josh could be one of the BEST players in the NBA and COULD even go down as a legend but he has no HEART! He plays at half speed about 80% of the time and the other 20% he’s whining about something. I just wish all the Hawks players would play to their potential and we could/would be an elite NBA contender. But until that happens…

Astro Joe

March 2nd, 2011
3:27 pm

If Teague could be the PG of the Future (despite shooting 28% during this period of defensive dominance that the league has never seen), then surely Hilton Armstrong can be our Center of the Future. I’m quite sure that if Hilton shot less than 35% from the field while defending well in about 20 minutes of ball, that all will join my band-wagon.

Free Hilton Armstrong, The Hawks Center of the Future!

Astro Joe

March 2nd, 2011
3:29 pm

Je-Je, you know who else thinks that Bibby is still a relevant player? That team that just cut a player to make room for him in their line-up.

Sautee

March 2nd, 2011
3:31 pm

Jeje,

“RealGM puts word in peoples’ mouths all the time.”

LOL, so you would like to have the “credibility” that a fantasy site has?

Jeje, you can be better than that. Just pay attention to your words. It matters.

Grandad

March 2nd, 2011
3:31 pm

Fundamentals

Where have you read Hilton has “small hands” ?

I have read every scout rep I can find & no mention of small hands.

* great hands / catches everything…..source: nbadraft.net

My wish is for young Mr Armstrong to get a chance as well.

Astro Joe

March 2nd, 2011
3:35 pm

Gwalk, I’ve criticized Josh a lot in the past but I would NEVER accuse him of missing a game that he could play. He has been OUTSTANDING over his career when it comes to playing hurt and bouncing back from bumps and bruises. If he is missing a game, it is ONLY because he is truly unable to play. History shows that you can count on Josh playing when able every bit as much as you can count on Josh to take a shot that leaves you shaking your head. They are both absolutes (IMO).

hawksfancent95

March 2nd, 2011
3:42 pm

bibby off the bench or possibly starting is better for the heat than mario or obviously carlos, hes relevant
i originally didnt like teague but when we start him he moves the ball up court and he penetrates and give guys good looks and defensively he is moderate and takes good gambles
hinrich will play great tonight in his phillips aka josh smith factory debut, if marv can hold deng to modest numbers 15< the hawks can start great on a crucial home stretch
craw 21 powell 14

-can someone name some possible 7+ big man will be free agents this summer?
prec-hfc95

Grandad

March 2nd, 2011
3:43 pm

@ whomever said Collins is a bad match-up -vs- Noah;
Noah is not offensive minded,
but…he must be boxed out / blocked off the boards.
J.Collins is one of our better boxer-outers!

Dept. of Unintended Irony

March 2nd, 2011
3:43 pm

“van excel was a beast, no fear.”

Yeah, he could really dominate using a spreadsheet.

drmaryb (*_*)

March 2nd, 2011
3:44 pm

“Take it to the basket and make a play. That is what this team needs. A driver. Force the issue and both sides of the floor. Teague can do it…just give him a chance!”
____________________________

How many chances does he need? 2, 15, 20?

Every chance you get LUCKY to get on the floor – IS your chance!
-drmaryeb-

This is the NBA man, not the developmental league. If you’re Teague? You don’t get to be walking the ball up and handing it to Jamal – Ever.
Be a PG and tell that b!atch to run a curl and he might get a pass.
In fact, tell the whole damn team what you need them to do, to get the ball! Be a Leader.

Jeff Teague is not that man! He may learn top become that man someday. Meanwhile, get him in – where he fit in. He should see at least 15-20 mins/per, only if he takes it and do something with it.
As of right now, Jeff is NOT a starting PG on a play off team.
___________________

Hey NothCyde! How’s my man? See yall tonight at the game!

Sautee

March 2nd, 2011
3:49 pm

O’Brien,

I’ll say 17 on your over / under. Of course if DRose gets Kirk in foul trouble early (could easily happen) then all bets are off.

Tremaine

March 2nd, 2011
3:51 pm

If Jamal Crawford plays the point tonight we are guaranteed to lose.

Sautee

March 2nd, 2011
3:52 pm

Grandad,

“J.Collins is one of our better boxer-outers!”

Is that a technical term from one of those basketball books?

LOL, it’s better than “boxers outers” which described my son in high school a few years ago.

myrak43

March 2nd, 2011
3:57 pm

are you guys serious…. Teague is not ready to be a starting point. he may never be. he has the talent he just doesn’t have the heart. and he was awful in the Denver game. it is not so much his defense he played good D at Portland and Golden State. But he is no where on par with Kirk. this is only his second year in the League and I liked what I saw in Teague in Oakland and Portland but he laid an egg in Denver plan and simple. and when we had Royal Ivy playing here we had no other point guard on the team worth a damn. But Ivy was a top notch defender more so than Teague is right now. and he didn’t turn the ball over. Teague is a sometime good defender but he always turns the ball over. I hope teague plays no more than 15 minutes tonight. and to the ones saying Josh Smith is a dump basketball player and a cancer, that is just not true. Josh is one of the main reasons we win. don’t believe me, just ask the fans of any team in the league they would love to have Josh Smith on their team.

J from the A

March 2nd, 2011
3:59 pm

“can someone name some possible 7+ big man will be free agents this summer?”
prec-hfc95

Unless some of these guys signed extensions in the last week or so:

Nenad Krstic 7′0″ potentially MLE-type money
Joel Pryzbilla 7′1″ potentially MLE-type money
Tyson Chandler 7′1″ $10+ million per year
Nene (player option) 6″11′ $10+ million per year
Yao Ming 7′5″ ???
DeAndre Jordan 6′11″ MLE or under-type money
Marc Gasol 7′1″ possibly MLE-type money
Zydrunas Illgaskas (player option) 7′3″ bi-annual or vet minimum-type money
Eric Dampier 6′11″ bi-annual or vet minimum-type money
Eddy Curry 6′11″ bi-annual or vet minimum-type money
Dan Gadzuric 6′11″ possibly MLE-type money
Greg Oden (restricted) 7′0″ MLE or less-type money
Samuel Dalembert 6′11″ ???

I am possibly missing a few.

Source: HoopsHype

J from the A

March 2nd, 2011
4:01 pm

Dept. of Unintended Irony

March 2nd, 2011
3:43 pm

“‘van excel was a beast, no fear.’

Yeah, he could really dominate using a spreadsheet.”

i lol’d irl

mykhalc

March 2nd, 2011
4:04 pm

free Sy and Armstrong!!!!

mykhalc

March 2nd, 2011
4:05 pm

and imprison Marvin…PLEASE!!!

MsDee

March 2nd, 2011
4:06 pm

@myrak43,

JJ & Jamal both make dumb turnovers but u still find them in games esp when they throw a penny in the ocean..Teague make 2 TO’s in 3 games and u say he isnt worthy of more starting time??? WOW!!

Sautee

March 2nd, 2011
4:08 pm

LOL @ myk.

myk, Marvin is like Linda McCartney. He wouldn’t be in the band unless somebody pulled some strings.

mykhalc

March 2nd, 2011
4:11 pm

@MsDee…with all due respect…the ball is not in JT’s hands long enough for him to get a TO…hot potato on the offensive end…cross half-court, give it up….Acie style….

mykhalc

March 2nd, 2011
4:14 pm

got that right Sautee. Marvin looks like the kid that is bein’ forced to play an instrument he doesn’t like…BBALL!!! Worthless…PERIOD!!! hey…but he is feedin’ his family…thru thievery…PERIOD!!!

Gwalk

March 2nd, 2011
4:14 pm

Astro Joe, You may be right but what kills me is the way I saw not only Josh, but the entire team playing with some enthusiasm the other night. The fact is, when they played to their potential, they not only won the games, they dominated the games. I just think Josh is a good player that could be a superstar if he would only put in the effort. No one said being a super star was easy.

And don’t get me started on Marvin (can’t make a jump shot) Williams. I have been watching him closely all year this year b/c of thinking about trading him and I can see why no other team wanted him… he stinks as a #2 overall draftpick! Now he’s making all that $$ when there are better bench players than him (Crawford who (I know) makes 10 million this year) I think they would be better off cutting him and losing money. What a waste…

Ryan

March 2nd, 2011
4:16 pm

Really ???lol Teague didn’t shoot well but he got to the line and converted and he played good defense. We have the most critical fans I’ve ever seen to have an empty are most of the time. If Josh is so smart, why does he make the dumbest plays night in and night out?

oldtimer

March 2nd, 2011
4:18 pm

So much about basketball is confidence. Teague had it last 2 games. He felt confident, coach trusted him and not Jamal as the starting point. So he played great. Any one that thinks basketball is just shooting, look at Rondo.

Teague played well the last 2 games. Our defense dominated until Smoove got hurt in the last 2 games. Kirk is good, off the bench, but Teague should start with the starters. Don’t take his confidence away. It is about Defense in this league where you have great offensive players.

mykhalc

March 2nd, 2011
4:18 pm

ok…thievery might be a tad harsh…donations might be more accurate!! bottomline…he damn sure ain’t workin’ for it…unless just lacin’ em up counts…WORTHLESS!!!

Jae Evolution

March 2nd, 2011
4:20 pm

Anybody that says Teague is a SG not a PG are you serious?

It’s clear the game is evolving, you see guys like Westbrook, Rose, Wall, Deron. These guys are all hybrids between the 2 which is exactly what Teague is.

As far as Teague’s jumper, which one of the young all-star players didn’t have question marks around their jumper, when Teague gets the mentality that he can’t just survive in the NBA, he needs to get better everyday and work everyday he will be the future PG of this franchise.

Astro Joe

March 2nd, 2011
4:21 pm

Eddy Curry… Expected Cost: 4 Cases of Honey Buns and 25 gallons of Rocky Road Ice Cream.

(I’ll be his agent and will take an 8% cut of each item, thank you very much).

Rufus1

March 2nd, 2011
4:22 pm

Hilton…

I just want to know if he can play. I am not asking him to start, but our Bigs are not GOOD. He can atlest blosck shots and rebound.

I don’t give LD the benefit of the doubt….Not after the Bibby situation.

Tremaine

March 2nd, 2011
4:23 pm

Don’t worry Teague fans. Hinrich will be in foul trouble most of the night.

MustangSalley

March 2nd, 2011
4:23 pm

The Hinrich trade was a HUGE mistake because we gave up more firepower than we came away with. I remember several games where Mo Evans came in and scored over 20 points to give the Hawks victory. That option is no longer available because we gave up Crawford, Evans and Bibby just to get Hinrich. That trade makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Crawford is now a starter for his new team and is scoring at least 10 points a night. Evans will score at least 15 if given the minutes and Bibby, regardless of his advanced age and clumsiness, will deliver at least 15 points per night. That means if my math is corect we gave up 40 points a night for Hinch who averages from about 11 to 13 points a night. It made no sense when we pulled the trigger on the trade and it certainly makes no sense today. The Hawks will probably only win 41 games this year and be a .500 to sub .500 team because the Hinrich trade has made the club significantly worse. Before the trade, the Hawks were on track to win 50 games. Now they will be lucky to win 40 if they stay healthy enough and get all the breaks it takes.

Astro Joe

March 2nd, 2011
4:24 pm

mykhalc, I thought that Lucifer was the one and only problem? Hehe.

jerrywest

March 2nd, 2011
4:25 pm

Why did we get Armstrong when we could have picked up better players who cleared the waivers? Why did we fill up our roster with so many scrubs that we are dangerously close to the luxury tax and can’t sign anybody now?

Najeh Davenpoop

March 2nd, 2011
4:26 pm

“If I was a player making all that $$, you would have to break my frekin’ legs before I would not play. ”

If you were a player making all that $$, you would make damn sure that you were healthy enough that you wouldn’t aggravate your injury even further by playing and end up sitting out much longer than you would have otherwise. And so would the team, for that matter.

A belated “ding” to you, sir.

JeJe

March 2nd, 2011
4:27 pm

Bibby is fat and a has-been according to everyone besides our GM. Miami signed him because they only have to see his horrid D 4 or so times a year, not 82+ like we do

Rufus1

March 2nd, 2011
4:27 pm

I must be dreaming….

Someone use the word “firepower” and Mo Evans in the same sentence….. Next, someone will use the Quick and Bibby in the same sentence.(Lol)

mykhalc

March 2nd, 2011
4:28 pm

yo Joe…wassup bro…OAKTOWN ladies still waitin’ on ya!!!

mykhalc

March 2nd, 2011
4:29 pm

@Rufus1…LOL

Najeh Davenpoop

March 2nd, 2011
4:30 pm

“I just think Josh is a good player that could be a superstar if he would only put in the effort.”

You can’t be a superstar if you can’t dribble. That is a skill Smoove has not developed yet. That being said, he is a decent post player and a decent jump shooter now, where he used to be a horrendous post player and a horrendous jump shooter. So it is possible that he will develop his handles as well.

Effort and basketball IQ are not the problem with Smoove. Honestly, if he was the exact same player he is now but he had gone to college for a year, people probably wouldn’t be unfairly labeling him as such. Smoove’s problem is overconfidence. He thinks he is a lot better at certain aspects of the game than he actually is. When he doesn’t force the issue and plays to his strengths, he’s a very good #2 option offensively.

Astro Joe

March 2nd, 2011
4:30 pm

“LA Fcae with the Oaktown…” Now that was music.

Rufus1

March 2nd, 2011
4:31 pm

1st team to 90pts wins….

The game will be won or lost at the end of the 3rd and beginning of the 4th…..”Jamal Time”

Rev in Tampa

March 2nd, 2011
4:31 pm

Northcyde & J from the A,

A lot of us on this blog that were calling most loudly for Teague were not expecting to him to be a great point guard right away or ever. We just saw how deficient Bibby and Jamal were on defense. We knew something had to be done and Teague was the only option.

Frankly, Teague has surpassed my expectations. I feel more comforatable with Hinrich at the point, but when Teague comes in the defense on the perimeter does not fall off.

myrak43

March 2nd, 2011
4:34 pm

First MsDee not all turn overs are created equal. JJ and Jamal dominate the ball when they are in the game, most of there turnovers occur when they are being double teamed and more often than not when they are doubled the other players stand and watch, instead of coming into their passing lane so they can have an outlet pass. what I am trying to say JJ and Jamal turn overs are useally forced turnovers( that is somewhat acceptable) Teagues is never doubled and his turns overs are usually unforced or with with minimal defensive pressure. hell even the best players in the league turn the ball over with they are being doubled or sometimes trippled like JJ is i.e. Lebron, Kobe, and Wade. don’t just look at the turn overs look at the turnover to point ratio. and Ryan Josh does make dumb plays I will give you that, but that is only because he is trying to do too much, if we had a true point guard he would not have the ball as much and he wouldn’t try to do too much, but I can live with that( trying) what I can’t live with is Teague and Marvin not trying enough. I would rather Teague and Marvin to go out and make mistakes because the are putting forth the effort. Have you notice that Josh Smith gets better than he was the year before every year? that is because he wants to be good. Has Marvin done that? Is Teague better than he was last year? the answer to those last to questions are NO! and I don’t won’t to hear Teague isn’t getting any playing time. that is what the off season is for, to get better and he practices with NBA talent everyday. it is just not excuse.

Grandad

March 2nd, 2011
4:34 pm

Sautee

* boxer-outer:
a highly technical term generally used only by those in the fraternity.
[definition = Big Ass]

-other such terminology-

* Ass Clown
[def = Lebron James]

* runners & jumpers
[def = non-euros]

* defensive stopper
[def = can't shoot]

* Bizzaro Bird
[def = Marvin]

* low B-ball IQ
[def = dumb ass]

* high B-ball IQ
[def = Shane Battier]

* Euros
[def = white guys]

* African Euro = Thabeet
* Canadian Euro = Nash
* South American Euro = Ginobili

* assister
[def = Cheryl Miller]

* post feeder
[def = Jason Collins nutritionist]

* balls to the wall
[ definition = ? ]

* Marvin
[ def = feather duster ]

ag

March 2nd, 2011
4:35 pm

If you all think Pape Sy is the answer, well he averaged 8 ppg in the D-League and last year he averaged 5 ppg in France. One though I agree is this is when we can use Mo. When he is on, he is a great scorer. Teague played great defense and in four games he started, he went to the line and converted 10-11. He also collected 5 steals and although having only 12 assists, he should have had at least 20. Hilton is garbage if he cannot get run with the Wiz.

Rufus1

March 2nd, 2011
4:40 pm

Jamal Time

Jamal scores 22pts we win….That simple!!

His defensive liability is worth about(my Math) 15pts and the 3 turnovers are worth about 1.29pts each=(3.87pts)…Total 18.87pts

***I read an article where the Celtics calculated that each turnover was worth about +/-(1.29pts)***

Najeh Davenpoop

March 2nd, 2011
4:47 pm

“African Euro”… haha. Steve Nash technically qualifies for that one too.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 2nd, 2011
4:47 pm

Corey Brewer is about to sign a multi year deal with Dallas, where I guess they see him as some sort of cheap replacement for Caron Butler.

MustangSalley

March 2nd, 2011
4:50 pm

Jamal is good but dont oversell Jamal Crawford. There is a reason why he is a sixth man and not a starter. It has been proven that when Jamal starts games he hoists up three-pointers for most of the game thinking he is PISTOL PETE MARAVICH. The pistol could make 3-pointers ALL GAME LONG but not Jamal Crawford. Jamal eventually puts up his AIR BALL 3-POINT MISSES and he keeps firing air balls because he insists he must make 3s if he had been making them in the game earlier. Jamal is great but he has his weaknessess like most players do.

myrak43

March 2nd, 2011
4:50 pm

and it looks like Rasual Butler is off the table as well…. that sux

http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_rumors.shtml

Grandad

March 2nd, 2011
4:52 pm

hawksfancent95
-&-
J from the A

Marc Gasol RFA this summer.
Bidding is expected to push his salary out of Memphis’ price range.
Or, they cannot keep he and Z.Randolph !
Some suspect LAL to push the price up & out of everyone’s reach.
MLE won’t get it done, however, he is ” not ” his brother.

myrak43

March 2nd, 2011
4:52 pm

MustangSalley
Jamal is what he is… a scorer. and ever team needs them. the good teams have more than one of them however.

Sautee

March 2nd, 2011
4:53 pm

MustangSally,

about this: “The Hawks will probably only win 41 games this year and be a .500 to sub .500 team because the Hinrich trade has made the club significantly worse.”

Seriously? 15 home games left and you think all we will win is 5 more for the SEASON?

Are you aware that the home team wins in the NBA over 60% of the time?

Cavs beat the Lakers at home. Grizz beat the Spurs at home last night.

Bad teams win home games fairly often, but you think we’ll only win 5? That means we’ll go 5-17 in the next 22 with 15 home games.

I guess if Joe and Al both get injured it’s possible, but I’ll still say the Hawks will win 48-50. 48 would be going 12-10 for the rest of the year. That sounds about right.

41 is an over-reaction to not liking the trade.

tony

March 2nd, 2011
4:59 pm

can some1 plz tell me what website the hawks are playing tonight?

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
5:03 pm

So this means more of the Teague/Iso Jamal combo? Bad idea.

lewis

March 2nd, 2011
5:04 pm

Hawks do not have the money to go after anyone…don’t know why there has been an ongoing discussion about trying to bolster the bench with one of these guys. It’s not going to happen. Move on.

With Horford out we were crushed. With Josh Smith out, an even better defender and rim deterrent, I am not even looking forward to this game. Not only are Horford and Smith good individual defenders, but their ability to play off of each other, relying on one another’s athleticism to help on just about anyone in any situation, will be greatly missed.

Boozer is good at boxing out, and a solid rebounder. Noah is a great rebounder.
Collins is good at boxing out, and a bad rebounder. Horford is a solid rebounder.

Josh Smith is a great rebounder, even though he averages less than Al, he grabs them out of the sky, in traffic to boot.

Having to rely on Marvin to step up, again, I expect us to lose.

J from the A

March 2nd, 2011
5:06 pm

@Grandad, hakwsfancent85, others

I wonder what $10-12 mill can buy the Hawks this offseason. If Jamal walks and if we dump Zaza’s contract somehow, depending on the new CBA, the Hawks may have up to $10+ million to play with.
[I know. A lot of 'ifs' and 'depending ons' in there.]

DeShawn Stevenson as a back up 2?
Deandre Jordan as a back up [potential down-the-road starter] at the 5?
Josh McRoberts as aback up PF? [Hey, for the price, i like the kid!]
Can we get a sold SF squeezed in here somewhere?
Get a 3rd PG [J-Will?], a 5th big man [Jason Collins, Kurt Thomas?], and a 4/5th wing [Damien, McGrady?] at the vet minimum. Sounds like a plan to me!

Probably right about Marc Gasol being pushed out of reach, so cross him off the list? Is Oden worth taking a risk on?

ag

March 2nd, 2011
5:06 pm

I can agree with the criticism of Marvin Williams. We have watched him for six seasons. Most teams give up on bust (Brewer, Thabeet, etc), but the Hawks kept at it. How are a lot of people giving up on Teague after 4 starts? He went 2-2. He does need to time to develop. When Rondo was a rookie, he started 25 games, only averaged 6 ppg, 3 ast and 3 rbs in 24 minutes. Remember Boston brought in Sam Cassell and Step Marbury down the strech. Even now, Rondo only averages 10 ppg and he is an allstar.

ag

March 2nd, 2011
5:11 pm

Wow dug this up on Marvin and Bogut on ESPN insider. BK was not the only one wrong.

Projection No. 1 to 3 overall
Positives In a draft bereft of players with star potential, Williams is one of the few guys scouts are universally excited about. Williams is an unbelievable specimen. He has a great NBA body, top-notch athleticism and the ability to play just about anywhere on the court. He has one of the most developed inside-outside games of any prospect, something the Tar Heels rarely took advantage of. He also possesses a fantastic basketball IQ and work ethic.

Negatives Williams is still young and inexperienced. He came off the bench all season for the Tar Heels and played in a supporting role to Sean May, Raymond Felton and Rashad McCants. He let his nerves get the best of him during North Carolina’s run in the Final Four and didn’t have the impact you’d think from such a highly-rated player. There were no Carmelo Anthony-like shining moments for Williams.

Sautee

March 2nd, 2011
5:11 pm

Lol @ Grandad’s definitions.

cp

March 2nd, 2011
5:13 pm

Its going to be difficult to win without Josh tonight…..We don’t have anyone on the roster who will be able to defend Rose tonight. Dude is having a MVP type season. He is going to light up whoever is in front of him and I’m hoping its not Jamal on him at any point during the game. Rose will get his they just have to shut down the other guys but once again without Josh its going to be difficult. A lot of his critics will see why he is so valuable to this team………I think a lot of people on here are being way too critical of Teague. It was said the day he was drafted he was raw and would take some time. I dont know what happened to the demeanor he had in college but he has to get it back. He does something well that not many other Hawks do, he draws fouls. He just needs to attack and attack. The Denver game made no difference in whether he would start or not. LD said Hinrich would be his starter when the trade was made.. Teague has to keep up his defensive intensity and push the ball. Some of you are just too extra when it comes to some guys on the team.

ag

March 2nd, 2011
5:13 pm

The Hawks were tempted to draft Chris Paul because of their need at the point, but at the end of the day they took the best player available. Marvin Williams is an upgrade over Al Harrington and Josh Smith. It will be interesting to see what the Hawks do from here. Obviously they’re going to have to clear up a logjam at the forward position. Maybe they’ll be able to trade Harrington in an effort to acquire the team’s real needs at point guard and center.

(Wow slap Josh in the face…I would rather have Harrington)

I still believe that Marvin Williams should have been the No. 1 pick in the draft. Still, Bogut’s a very good pick. He’s a legit center who is skilled offensively and is already one of the best passing big men in the game. Whether he has enough athleticism to guard NBA fives remains to be seen. I think Vlade Divac and Brad Miller are the right comparisons. He’ll help the Bucks immediately and give Michael Redd some wide open looks for a change.

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
5:13 pm

Damn, we need Josh tonight. Whether you haters wont to believe it or not. He eats Boozers lunch. Same with Horford vs Noah. Joakim will have a field day with Zaza and Collins I’m afraid. If Zaza really wants to be the “tough guy”, tonights the night to do it. I’m glad Hinrich is starting as long as,
Teague is the backup pg.
But to be honest we’re prolly back to
Hinrich/JJ/Duckbooty/Horford/Collins
Jamal/Zaza/and that’s it..
Teague prolly back to garbage min.
Jamal still playing backup pg.
etc………………………………………………………..
Hope Hinrich can make up the difference.

SteveW

March 2nd, 2011
5:21 pm

Astro Joe – For his 2,3, and 4 starts for his career, I think Teague did well. And when Jamal and JJ, Josh etc, have abysmal shooting nights for a few consecutive games, we don’t talk of benching them. Teague showed he belonged. Protected the ball. Went to the line 6x’s last game. He’s just got to get confidence, and learn how to play with these vets, esp. JJ and Jamal. He will defer to them. And Jamal will let him.

How we free up money: At the draft, trade Marvin to a team with a big Trade exception like the Cavs, and get their 1st pick.

We then have a lottery pick (the Cavs may be dumb enough…) and MLE money to spend. We get a big and draft a 3 or vice versa.

Or can you not trade players around draft time. I forgot if you can or not. But if you can, that’s the plan that works with ASG money.

SteveW

March 2nd, 2011
5:22 pm

And the difference between Teague every game he played after the trade, was significantly better than almost every game Bibby was playing. Not the stat line necessarily, but the difference with this team was night and day.

SteveW

March 2nd, 2011
5:24 pm

If LD rotates correctly, gives the proper assignments, and we ball, we can beat this team. We match up very well with them, even with Josh out if LD sees it.

joey

March 2nd, 2011
5:25 pm

hawks will win 50 games this year and if the hawks can play with hert this team can be scrappy and maker it to the eastern conference finals…only if the whole teams bust butt on the defensive end

joey

March 2nd, 2011
5:26 pm

the hawk will win 50 games and they can end up in the astern conference finals only if the play with heart, which they have did2of the last 3 games…ut only if they bust their butt on the defensive end

SteveW

March 2nd, 2011
5:34 pm

The CBA says, “Teams are free to make trades again once their season has ended, but cannot trade players whose contracts are ending or could end due to an option or ETO”

So we could trade Marvin after the season ends.

I will take Marvin for Sessions all day everyday. I wouldn’t mind a back court of Hinrich, Teague, Sessions, and JJ for next season.

The 3 spot? Well, Wilkens, McGrady, some D’Leaguers, De’Sean Butler all come to mind in some combination. Had some real good Summer League dude, can’t remember his name, who the scouts said was a pro player, but no jump shot. Get him working on that shot!

His name was Trey Gilder, I remember now. Get Da’Sean Butler. These guys gotta be better on a consistent basis than Marvin.

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
5:37 pm

Whay yall bringing up old stuff? lol! Still cant believe we took Marvin. Upgrade over Smith and Harrington my a..

Ron

March 2nd, 2011
5:38 pm

With Smith out, that means either tons of minutes for Horford or significant minutes for Zaza and Powell. I don’t like the sound of the latter. Chicago is one of the most dangerous teams in the league right now. I’d say they are second best in the east behind Boston; not necessarily due to their team, as a whole, but due to the fact that that Derrick Rose is a beast and they are very good defensively. Against good defensive teams, our offense has looked awful this season, and we all know how much trouble we’ve had against elite guards. At least most of the trouble we had with guards and dribble penetration was related to having Mike Bibby. Hinrich should be able to alleviate that problem a bit. I’m curious to see how he does out there tonight with the starting unit. It should be pretty interesting. I’m also very excited to see the Boozer-Horford matchup. At any rate, this will likely be a tough game, and not having Smith will hurt us. Hopefully, we can pulll this one out and get a big win.

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
5:40 pm

Wish we had Josh/Al instead of Al/Collins tonight. Oh well.

J from the A

March 2nd, 2011
5:43 pm

It looks like Josh is going to have an MRI after all. The MRI is supposed to happen tonight. Anyone know when we will get the details of the MRI results passed along?

Ken Strickland

March 2nd, 2011
5:49 pm

I don’t understand Drew’s decision to start Collins, since Noah is very mobile and an excellent rebounder, which Collins isn’t. It would appear to me that Zaza would be a better matchup against Noah. This would also be a good opportunity to give HArmstrong some mins, to help protect the lane and force the Bulls to beat outside the lane.

mykhalc

March 2nd, 2011
5:51 pm

@tony…”can some1 plz tell me what website the hawks are playing tonight?”

google atdhe

Jamilliondadon

March 2nd, 2011
5:57 pm

Najeh i cosign your comments on teague and josh. I think & know teague should start. Kirk needs to be our anchor from the bench. Can’t see hawks winning by starting kirk & josh out we need teague 2 penetrate & put pressure on rose

tyger

March 2nd, 2011
6:01 pm

Funny as it sounds – Pape Sy may be better than Marvin or Smooth.

Ken Strickland

March 2nd, 2011
6:03 pm

RON-Any DEF improvemet we see will be initiated solely by the players, not by anything Drew does or says. When it comes to DEF, he lost the ear of his players long ago when he insisted on relying so heavily on his 2 biggest DEF liabilities. Then he pulled a Woody, by blaming the remaining players for their unwillingness, or inability, to compensate for his decisions.

Wabe

March 2nd, 2011
6:15 pm

No J.Smith?

I don’t think we win this game…

To all of those who say J.Smith is a cancer…

Did you watch what happened in Denver when Smith sat out in the 2nd half?

To those screaming about the Hawks lack of interior defense, and defense in general, did you see how our defense performed with Smith in the game as opposed to him being out of the game?

If not, watch tonight. Lets see what that ‘interior defense’ looks like minus J.Smith.

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
6:16 pm

So we recalled Sy from the D-League?

O'Brien

March 2nd, 2011
6:17 pm

Whatever amount of PT Teague gets, he better get after it defensively. He can’t afford to take steps back, because LD wil have no problems playing Hinrich and Jamal at the backup PG.

Najeh,

With Dallas signing Brewer, does that mean they will not resign Caron Butler next year?

AJ,

I’m on your Free Hilton Armstrong bandwagon.

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
6:18 pm

Me either Ken. Me either.

Shake Something

March 2nd, 2011
6:21 pm

Hawks do have 2 2nd round pick this year.Weak draft but I think the Hawks could steal a shooter like Iman Shumpert,Jordan Williams ,Tyler Zeller,Lucas Nogueira Just naming a few with one of those 2 picks.

Trade Marvin and Zaza of course maybe to New Jersey since they would be in the lottery, and take Jonas Valanciunas.(Impossible??I know right LMAO!! just dump the guy some where)If we can drop those two guys some how we could be in a whole lot better boat

I would gamble on Oden if it isn’t to expensive;then sign McGrady, along with Joe Alexander & Da’sean Butler out the D League.Make a run for McRoberts as well.

superiorblogman

March 2nd, 2011
6:21 pm

Hinrich is overrated. Teague is better defensively and its not close. The Hawks will be blown out and I am glad that it will be Hinrich to be blamed and not Teague. Looking forward to see D Rose dominate the great white hype.

slimjr

March 2nd, 2011
6:21 pm

UH OH, Marvin will be expose again tonight……………………….

Chicago by 15….

Shake Something

March 2nd, 2011
6:21 pm

Free Hilton!!!!111111

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
6:22 pm

LD and his rotations??? We’re gonna be too slow to keep up with the Bulls with a Duck/Al/Collins frontcourt. When Collins isnt needed LD decides to start em. Go figure.

slimjr

March 2nd, 2011
6:22 pm

Hinrich=Tyron Lue..Stays hurt….

ag

March 2nd, 2011
6:23 pm

tyger

March 2nd, 2011
6:01 pm
Funny as it sounds – Pape Sy may be better than Marvin or Smooth

Man what are u on? This guy averaged 5 ppg in Europe last year and only 8 ppg in the D- League!!!

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
6:23 pm

Perfect night to give “The Hotel” some burn.

slimjr

March 2nd, 2011
6:24 pm

Waive Marvin. He dose not like playing basketball.. Watch him tonight…… A busted #2 Lottery pick………………………………………….Yawn…………………..

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
6:25 pm

And tell Zaza he’s getting traded after the season. Maybe that will light another fire under his azz. lol!

slimjr

March 2nd, 2011
6:26 pm

Check that.. Chicago by 20 at the half. May win by 30?

ag

March 2nd, 2011
6:29 pm

You guys are real high on Hilton. Why? He has done nothing his entire career. He is a draft bust by the Hornets, shipped to the Wizards and they have given up on him. In the trade, we gave up way to much, and should have gotten Thorton (at least he avg 16ppg one season with the Clippers). Tonight would be a good game for Mo because Marvin is struggling.

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
6:31 pm

Cant blame Josh or Teague if we get our asses handed to us tonight. Cant wait to see how much hate is thrown at Marvin and Joe. Cause nobody in their right mind would put any blame on Al Hordord. Regardless of how he performs. Just sayin.

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
6:32 pm

And Jamal look out. You’ll prolly be the scapegoat tonight. lol!

lewis

March 2nd, 2011
6:33 pm

Blogman, I don’t think Teague can guard the 1 and 2. I also don’t think he’s experienced enough or capable of putting himself in a position to take game-winning charges. I also don’t think he can change the entire defensive identity of the team upon arrival. Stop letting the fact that he is white skew your perception; he has high bball IQ, plays hard and is a natural leader.

That said, he is 30, and injured, and I don’t really know what he can do at this point against Drose. Starting Teague and bringing him off the bench would be a better move imo.

ag

March 2nd, 2011
6:35 pm

I love the Hawks, but without Josh, a tough hill to climb.

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
6:36 pm

Hope we win. If we dont the Josh Smith haters wont know what to do. Prolly turn to Joe/Jamal/Marvin. lol!

Allen

March 2nd, 2011
6:36 pm

L.D. is a joke. The biggest mistake that Hawks’ management made this offseason was hiring Drew. He’s a terrible coach and he’s even starting to make Woodson look like a coach of the year candidate. “Defend, rebound, and run” will always be a superior strategy to “move the ball…[to joe]“. L.D. is far from being even a decent head coach, and we are going to have to hope that he doesn’t get embarrassed by Thibodeau tonight.

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
6:38 pm

“A good game for Mo”? lol! Rather play Hilton. All we need him to do is play a little defense and get a few rebounds. Mo cant even do that.

O'Brien

March 2nd, 2011
6:38 pm

From espn.com;

ATLANTA — Kirk Hinrich has never been the type of guy to mince words, so when he talks about how difficult it is to guard Derrick Rose, it’s even easier to understand why the Bulls’ 22-year-old point guard has become a legitimate MVP candidate in just his third season.

“It’s a nightmare,” said Hinrich, who was traded by the Washington Wizards to the Atlanta Hawks last week. “With his strength and athleticism it definitely has to be a team effort for sure.”.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6174636/

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
6:40 pm

Why not start Teague and bring (an injured) Kirk off the bench with Jamal? I just dont get it. Let Teague chase around D.Rose for a while.

drmaryb (*_*)

March 2nd, 2011
6:45 pm

To start a game, is all about setting tempo and feeling if the opponent came to play. Starting is overrated – Finishing is where you win the game. We need horses maane, not the pony express.

EmirS.

March 2nd, 2011
6:46 pm

Hinrich knows how to play the game of basketball. Do you honestly think with Kirk starting that if Josh was to keep making stupid plays, that he’d get the ball at all? Ofcourse not. We will miss Josh tonight. Fact.

I’m not saying we’ll lose. When your a fan you dont throw in the towel 15 mins before your team starts playing. So while I’m doing Hill Climbs in the gym, I will still be rooting on my Hawks to take out the Bulls.

Lets get it.

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
6:46 pm

lol @ he stinger pumpin up Marvin.

drmaryb (*_*)

March 2nd, 2011
6:51 pm

“Why not start Teague and bring (an injured) Kirk off the bench with Jamal? I just dont get it. ”
___________________________

Because, Teague is not a starter. (duuh!) If so, why trade for Kirk and give up Jordan? Think people Think.

Sautee

March 2nd, 2011
6:51 pm

slim,

Hinrich is not as injury prone as you are making out. He DID miss 31 games in 08-09 with a thumb injury, but other than that he’s missed a total of 29 games in his other seven seasons. That’s about 4 games missed per year, and some of those were games off just before the playoffs started.

Once again, perception is NOT reality.

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

March 2nd, 2011
6:52 pm

this is goin to be interesting

JeJe

March 2nd, 2011
6:55 pm

This team consists of Al Horford (winner) and a bunch of losers. I have no idea why he wanted an extension with this pathetic franchise

The Game Has Changed

March 2nd, 2011
6:59 pm

The bottom line is that we dont have a true starting point guard again. Before Bibby we had Delk, J. Terry, and a few other shooting point guards. They should have just put Joe at the put with Josh, and Al, and traded for a premier center. Now we have two backup point guards.

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
6:59 pm

Mary B, if “starting is overrated” as you say, then why does it matter who starts and who comes off the bench?

terrell

March 2nd, 2011
7:00 pm

Jamal is not a starter either. duh. Neither is Ginobli. Duh. Starting IS overated. You were right the 1st time.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 2nd, 2011
7:02 pm

New blog up

slimjr

March 2nd, 2011
7:07 pm

Keep Al…Everyone else?????

joey

March 2nd, 2011
7:10 pm

khuig

ag

March 2nd, 2011
7:14 pm

Starting is overrated. START JEFF TEAGUE!

Wabe

March 2nd, 2011
7:17 pm

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF MARVIN WILLIAMS

Wabe

March 2nd, 2011
7:19 pm

The Hawks look like they’ll get blown out of this gym quick

Wabe

March 2nd, 2011
7:19 pm

It’ll be over before we even get half way through the 1st.

Wabe

March 2nd, 2011
7:20 pm

Wow…

Fans in Phillips still standing…

By the time they sit down…game will already be over.

Wabe

March 2nd, 2011
7:22 pm

Shut up with the excuses Rathbun…

Fundamentals

March 2nd, 2011
7:41 pm

Granddad,

I can’t find the article on Hilton that referenced he had small hands for a big. From all accounts it seems the kid is a good kid who just doesn’t believe in himself. He lacks the pride and arrogance that makes any hate the NBA, but he makes it up with being a genuinely nice guy.

All the reports I can find seem to show he’s got great potential as a defender, decent as a shot blocker and rebounder. What he seems to lack is the ability to catch and finish down low. Personally I don’t care about offense. Dude just needs a chance to bring energy, to plug the middle and show the speed that ZaZa and Collins can’t.

He’s young, athletic and his back is against the wall. I’d like to see him get 10-15 a night over the next few weeks just to see what he’s got over Collins, Powell or ZaZa. We know what they bring. We know they take us nowhere. If Hilton doesn’t measure up to his detractors, how much worse can it be than an others on the bench. Give him a shot. That’s all I ask.

Fundamentals

March 2nd, 2011
7:44 pm

Who besides Hilton has the speed to keep up with Noah, Gibson and Boozer. Maybe Powell? Give Elan something to smile about tonight. Get Hilton in the game!

superiorblogman

March 2nd, 2011
7:45 pm

Jeff Teague makes 1 mistake he gets pulled. Damien can’t even get the ball inbounds and he gets to stay in. Hinrich the great white hype gets the team off to a worse start than Teague did in any of his starts and watch he plays almost 40 minutes. I can assure you Teague will not get back into the game tonight until the Bulls are up 20. Please trade Teague so he can learn

STRETCH

March 2nd, 2011
7:48 pm

Free agent swingman Aleksandar Pavlovic is headed to the Celtics, according to ESPN.com … The Dallas Mavericks are close to signing Corey Brewer to a multi-year deal, according to ESPN.com … Eddy Curry is telling people he will eventually join the Heat .

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE C’S (and other teams) ARE DOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE ALL THESE MOVES??

Hawks Fan in Jax

March 2nd, 2011
7:59 pm

These next stretch of games will show that the Hawks are many moves away from even being thought about being considered a contender or any kind of threat.

superiorblogman

March 2nd, 2011
7:59 pm

Hinrich sucks

Marvin Williams

March 2nd, 2011
8:00 pm

JR smith shuld go to jail for what he did

Marvin Williams

March 2nd, 2011
8:00 pm

lol im talking during the game

jason

March 2nd, 2011
8:00 pm

come on hawks i kno u dont suk this badly!

drmaryb (*_*)

March 2nd, 2011
9:07 pm

“Mary B, if “starting is overrated” as you say, then why does it matter who starts and who comes off the bench?”
_________________________

Read between the lines. Think about it.

Hawks Fan in Jax

March 2nd, 2011
9:23 pm

WE WIN WE WIN WE WIN WE WIN!!!!!!!!!

MustangSalley

March 4th, 2011
12:25 pm

I laughed when I read yesterday where Bibby said the Hawks “Disrespected Me”. Bibby is like a lot of aging stars who continue to hang on to their careers despite the fact that their skills have eroded and left them. Bibby no longer has any basketball skills left. When Bibby was here, Bibby refused to mentor Teague and help him along the same way Brett Farve refused to mentor Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Its sad when aging athletes hang on instead of retiring with grace and dignity. I dont know whats worse to see a great star leave too early (as in the case of Barry Sanders) or a star like Brett Farve hanging on too long and tarnishing and ruining his legacy. Mike Bibby was once great and should have gotten a championship ring in 2002 with the Sacramento Kings. Unfortunately it didnt happen and Bibby will be remembered as an athlete who couldnt get the coveted ring. He wont get a ring with Miami because LaBron will never get a ring either.

Dr. Phil

March 4th, 2011
4:41 pm

Its a shame that the Hawks “GAVE UP ON TEAGUE” by inserting Hinrich into the starting lineup. The person who is to blame for Teagues lack of development is MIKE BIBBY. Bibby is a polished professional “has been” who is about 9 years past his prime. Bibby was once one of the best point guards in the league but his game has regressed to the point that he should be in retirement now collecting his social security checks. As I pointed out earlier, BIBBY REFUSED TO MENTOR TEAGUE and has allowed Teague to basically regress and now instead of giving Teague the promotion into the starting lineup, Hinrich gets the nod, deservedly so. The Hawks think they can go far in the playoffs which is why they gave up so much to get Hinrich. The Hawks gave up enough in their trade to land either Chris Paul or Deron Williams. Instead they land Hinrich which is not that good to start with.

ScoopJackson

March 4th, 2011
4:50 pm

The Hawks gave up far too much firepower for Hinrich. Mo Evans and Mike Bibby were capable of scoring 60 points a night. By giving up Crawford, who will be the next Karl Malone, the Hawks made a senseless trade and really ruined the quality of their team. Since the Hawks were going to give up so much talent to get Hinrich they should have thrown Teague in the trade and made it with the Dallas Mavericks and Dallas would have sent the Hawks Dirk Norwisnki. Oh well, hinsight is always 20/20.

BusterDouglas

March 5th, 2011
1:43 pm

Teague DOES NOT deserve to start. I noticed it the other night against Oklahoma when the Hawks had the ball and were trailing late in the game by only 2 points and had a chance to tie the game and steal it. Teague ALLOWED the ball to get stolen from him by completely falling asleep on the play and Durant races down the floor to stuff an uncontested basket. That play by Durant mentally deflated the Hawks and they were finished and done for the evening. The mental lapse of that lackadaisical play by Teague is what cost the Hawks the ballgame. The Hawks made a ferocious comeback and were in position to either tie the game and send it into overtime or win it outright with a 3-point basket. Before we could even get to that point, Teague blew the game for us and subsequently wasted the 48-minute effort by the Hawks. Teague should be packaged along with Marvin Williams and traded to the Caviliers for Baron Davis. That would be a great move for the Hawks and would give them the firepower to contend for an NBA title.

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