Atlanta Hawks: Nuggets 100, Hawks 90

Wow . . I don’t think I’ve ever seen JJ say that he made “bonehead plays” before. It’s usually “us” or “we” didn’t play well. Not all your fault JJ. People other than Al needed to step up tonight, and they didn’t.

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I called 3-4 prior to the road trip, but I didn’t pick the games right (had them beating Denver and Phoenix and losing to Portland and Golden State).

Without the trade, though, they may have gone 1-6. So yeah, it could have been worse.

This was a winnable game, but part of me wants to give them a pass, between the altitude and the less than 24 hours rest after the win at Portland. I think the losses to New York and Phoenix were a lot less excusable than this one.

Not getting Al more touches in the 4th is just idiotic, though, and it’s a continuation of a pattern. Someone other than Teague has to make an effort to feed Al in crunch time.

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Well, if Sund is lookin’ for a shooter,
Jason Kapono is most likely gonna
be available.
One of the best pure shooters -ever-.

He would [illiteration alert]
be better ‘n Bizzaro Bird.

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U guys are still on that!!!!Josh Smith 19 points 7 Reb 3 assists 2 block and he didnt even play the 2nd half!!!Why do you guys hate josh smith.Also,if we did trade hi,who would replace him,josh Powel haha i dont think so.

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“The things we were concerned about coming into this game they completely took advantage of it,” Drew said. “You have got to give [the Nuggets] credit. Obviously it’s tough to play here. They want to get you up and down and if you fall prey into that and start shooting jump shots and quick-shooting you can find yourself behind.”

That was LD talking…man this guy hasnt a clue. This team’s main problem is discipline, its been that way for a few years now. Avery Johnson or Byron Scott or even a Flip Saunders would have been able to take control of that huddle.

How many times after a game is Nancy Drew gonna say “jump shots killed us” this season???

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I think the Hawks win last night if it wasn’t for the injuries. Put Hinrich and Josh in for the entire night and the Hawks get the W. I just think the Hawks are the better of the two teams.

Gotta admit….I’m actually enjoying watching Teague play, now that he’s getting a chance. I agree that he has potential. I didn’t before. My only concern with him is his inability to finish. He continually gets the ball to the rim, but cannot seal the deal.

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More of the very same. No surprises, including the empty, useless soundbites from the coach and “JJ” and the whining from “Smoove”. What kind of stupid name is Smoove anyway? It’s embarassing.

Of course Teague doesn’t have “it”. Same as Marvin never having “it”. You don’t develop “it”. They either step on the floor with “it” or “it” ain’t there.

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Section 303

Great observation re: Teague’s finishing plays at the rim.
That’s why these kids need to let their arms and legs get strong.
The NBA is not a developmental league. This is a Grown Man’s Business.
Like your BFF, Mr. Johnson said, “This is The NBA maane.”

But, back to your observation. Teague has beautiful arms, he is still growing muscle mass. His legs are getting stronger too. When he is full grown, (typically around 21-23 for men) Teague may be our Rondo.

If Teague could finish like Iverson? He would be The Answer.
Iverson had the heart of a lion.

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“Denver– I wasn’t thrilled with my seat for the game, which was over a tunnel in a corner opposite the Hawks’ bench. But it turned out to be the perfect vantage point to see the Hawks bumble with transition defense.”
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MC, you had the best seat in the house. A Hawks eye view.

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Did not see the second half. But it looks like this is a game we could have won, especially if we had Hinrich and Josh. Hopefully both guys wont be out too long, because we need them for a tough home stretch.

Hawks need to get the ball to Horford more. Al had 15 shots (10-15), Marvin had 14 (4-14,including more shots than Al in the 4th)? And how does Jeff Teague out rebound Marvin?

And 2-19 on 3’s? Wow. That’s turrible. Were they open looks and we missed them, or did we force them?

I thought we would have won 4 ouyt of 7. But the Hawks can still take care of business by winning at home. On to the next one…

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LD conceded the game last night by giving Hinrich the night off with a sore calf??? Remember when Horford got slammed on his back, he stated the next day he was ok. LD held him out three more games and the Hawks lost them all. Now Josh is injured, I wondering how long they are going to hold him out. When Josh doesn’t play the league throws a party in the lane, Hawks can’t win without him!!!

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MC, it was getting late…so I only seen the first half of the game…it started out promising…however, despite the fact that Hinrich and Josh would have made a difference…again this lost belongs to LD…if LD is going to just be a clone of Woody…can we get him out of here after one year…or if management change…I’m sick of those lame rotations that make it easy for the opponent to score…LD should know by know that playing Zaza and Powell…is the equivalent of playing Bibby and Jamal in the back court…it ain’t gon work…and last but not lease…matching-up Jamal on one of the opponents top scorer.

You do all that hard work to get a lead…then your coach goes with the same bad mix of guys too long…well you know the rest…it getting close to the playoff…dude needs to stop with all the lip service already…cuz talk is cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeap!!!!!!

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It’s amazing how efficient a scorer Horford is (especially with the amt of jumpers he takes), and yet there’s really not an effort to get him more shots, and specifically more shots late in tight games.

One thing that jumped out last night (besides the usual too many jumpers) was that Teague’s too deferential with the ball. take the ball and get to the hole. don’t just walk it up, pass to Joe or Josh and go wait on the wing. get into the lane and make something happen.

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I will say this much if this game proves anything it’s that beyond the starting 5 plus JC1 and Hinrich we have a weak bench Zaza did okay, but this offseason.

Marvin, Zaza, Collins, Powell, JC1 as well must be shipped out trade them to Sac-town probably could get Jason Thompson or someone like that.

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WHEW!!!!…………..MARVIN ITS TIME FOR YOU TO STOP PLAYING LIKE A SCARED LITTLE GIRL OUT THERE!!!! GROW SOME…TAKE OVER AND EARN YOUR HUGE CONTRACT….

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OB, a game that the Hawks could not keep a hold of…they simply ran out of gas in the 4th….the Nuggets kept getting in the lane most of the game….Josh and Kirk were severely missed.
Why do I say that? Marvin had 2 or 3 rebounds at the half….a total of 3 for the game…and Josh didn’t play the 2nd half. That is a huge weakness…Marvin does not compensate when Josh is out. 38 minutes was essential from him. Powell AND Wilkins…0 rebounds total.
We settled for way too many jumpers and that might have been due to Larry telling these guys not to run. That was a bad strategy…you are telling your guys to hold back.
But truly, Teague vs. Felton&Lawson….hard to compete in that scenario.
And I think Teague is proving Lawson isn’t that far ahead of him…and Lawson’s minutes this year? 1400+ compared to 625 for Teague….I like what we have here with our PG combo.

Other good note: Joe started hitting a groove 2nd half also….less holding the ball and challenging his defender. Chandler had him thinking too much with the ball in his hands. When Joe gets double teamed, we have to produce to take the weight off Joe.
I can see Joe leading this team a bit better now.

Zaza, all I can say is wow! Anderson got him twice and Zaza never responded. Blocked a layup attempt (for a 7footer!) and swiped across his arm in the open court and Zaza gets a T for it. Bad timing for Zaza. We probably could have used Collins tonight.

I am still trying to figure out Larry and his substitutions. Not that we had a full bench last night, but he easily could have gone offense/defense a bit more. These guys drove the lane over and over in the 2nd half. Denver played a game to wear us down, and it worked.

A good 4th quarter and we have this game. 29-20 isn’t going to do it. That is on the coach at this point. He should know who gives us the best chance to win. Al/Teague/Joe/Collins/Jamal

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This one’s for Najeh….the list of free agents for 2011….not an up-2-date list, but a list to ponder who would come in here and get themselves a roster slot…and Prince and McGrady are there….

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-10-11

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Corey Brewer has been bought out and I do believe Atlanta would upgrade alot at the SF if they could sign him…Al Horford needs to get on the phone and start recruiting him.Main pitch should be telling him there is a starting job at the 3 position

Man a 6′9 Guard Forward who can defend and would be a great addition.

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Why after EVERY single loss do we have to hear LD talk about how we settled into jumpshots rather than getting in the lane?

This is so damn pathetic.

SO U TELL YOUR TEAM BEFORE THE GAME NOT TO SETTLE, BUT THEY STILL SHOOT 3S ALL THE TIME

GREAT COACHING

GOOD LORD.

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one and done…….Playoffs? Really?

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“Maybe going
back to Carolina would be a good change of scenery for
him.”
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This is true. Then, Marvin’s commute for Summer classes will be much shorter. Perhaps, he can scrimmage The UNC Men’s Basketball Team.

Geez! He was awful last night. Teague passed to him on the right block and he passed it back to Teague two times, like the ball was a hot potato.
Why not make a move to the post? Unforgivable, Marvin.
Thank goodness, Teague penetrated and drew a foul.

Marvin was useless and his jump shot is turrible. Marvin can’t hit the side of a barn. He does not square up to the basket, he leans in with his right body, he releases from a 45 degree angle. Not a fundamentally sound shooter and has no impact on the game consistently. A Major Bust at #2 or #22. No passion for the NBA game, lazy. But, as we saw last week, there will never be a taker with his contract. A bad pick compounded with a bad contract.

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“When Joe gets double teamed, we have to produce to take the weight off Joe.”
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How about a teammate bailing Joe out for a change? Can not one player run to the ball and help out there. Give the man a passing lane/line? That’s what i like about Kirk, he is constantly moving w/o the ball – imagine that?

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All we need from Marvin is to knock down his shots more consistently, and get us 7+ rebounds. Is that too much to ask? He did have a good game against Portland, so maybe he will have a good game against the Bulls.

KevinM,

Sometimes I dont know what LD is thinking with his lineups. Like in the Portland game, he had Jamal in the game when Portland made their run in the 4th. Given that we had a 20 point lead with 5 minutes to play, we needed defense, not offense.

But LD stuck with Jamal instead of bringing in Marvin, who actually played well on defense that game (and had 11 and 7).

And its obvious that the Powell and ZaZa together has not worked. I wonder if LD will try and get Hilton Armstrong some PT…

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O’Brien,

“But LD stuck with Jamal instead of bringing in Marvin, who actually played well on defense that game (and had 11 and 7).”

You and Vava keep complaining about Jamal being on the floor instead of Marvin at the end of the game. Are you guys watching the games? Marvin can’t be on the floor at the end of the game because HE CAN’T SCORE. You can’t leave a total liability on the floor, especially when you know teams are going to get the ball out of Joe’s hands. We held Denver to 100 points, and I think that they are the highest scoring team in the league. Defense was not the problem, scoring in the 4th was. Plus Marvin’s defense is very overrated. He stays in front of his man, but provides no intimidation or shot changing ability.

Grandad,

“Marv:
*weak hands…[don't ever talk about Zaza's hands again 'til MW's gone]
*can’t jump off two feet…[w/o a runnin' go]
*can’t shoot…[retract that - can't make a shot - unless it's free]
*the single most awkward player I’ve ever seen [counting all the white guys]
*overrated on defense
*can’t or doesn’t rebound
*jumps late:
**[notice how many times he catches a reb @ the waist & he's still on his way up] ”

Would I be wrong if I said I told you so? I might not know much, but a bad basketball player is easy to see. If he was not on the Hawks, where he gets some of the most wide open shots in history, he would not still be in the league. I really don’t think he would be an above average D-League player. He has too many flaws that can’t be corrected. Let me add that he gets his shot blocked by much smaller players 1 to 2 times a game. he can’t finish, and he falls way too much for a 6′9 player. It’s only a matter of time before he seriously injures himself.

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Yes, Josh is important to the team. However, we still get the impression that Josh could be about 300% more effective if he played to his true potential. Gonna need him this week for sure.

Teague. Please continue to play good defense even if you shoot 17%.

Now, the most interesting topic of all, “goofy Bibby.” We were wondering why Washington would commit 6 million dollars to a gimpy point guard. The whole thing had to have been planned from the beginning. Atlanta gets rid of Bibby’s salary and defense. Washington dips way below the salary cap. Miami gets a spot shooter who can bring the ball up the floor, allowing Wade, Bosh and the Kingly One to concentrate on scoring (or drawing one of their celebrity faux fouls). .

Again, I like Bibby. But I also like having him in Miami. See how “goofy” and lovable Bibby is when Kobe blows by him for the winning shot in game 7.

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Wouldn’t it be nice if FINALLY the hawks pulled it together and ran off about 7 victories in a row? (Sigh) still a fan…….

C’mon Hawks…..listen to your coach……be a team…..GO OUT THERE AND DO EVERYTHING RIGHT AND WIN A FEW!

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I say Miami doesn’t get better with Bibby on the floor. Defense is part of the game also.

OB, Marvin already played 38 last night and was 0-4 in the 4th. Not that we have a better option, but Denver continued to produce each trip down the court. We had no answer for the Felton/JRSmith combo last night. Until we play better in the 4th, this will be the result.
The entire difference in the game and we had it there for the taking. Denver continued to keep us in it.

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Looking at the list of summer ‘11 free agents, it looks like there are a number of solid MLE, bi-annual exception, vet minimum-type players that will be available … in other words, the Hawks might be able to make a few significant bench upgrades while remaining under the luxury tax/being cheap.

Assuming non-regression from Kirk and JJ, along with at least some improvement from Al, Josh, and Teague, next year may be the year for the Hawks … just need to count on the ownership to make a few savvy moves … wait! that means we are doomed right?

[None of this is meant to look past this year. If the Hawks can get things together -- which looks somewhat promising -- and remain injury free, the Hawks could make some real noise this year in the playoffs.]

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Regardless of our injuries, I also agree, this loss is on LD because it was still a winnable game nonetheless.

Our new worse defender is Jamal so never match him against their best offender in Felton? Denver exploited this matchup and LD was slow to respond.

Since Josh was out in the 2nd half, it relieved Denver defenders from playing help defense in the paint so they started doubling our shooters out on the perimeter. With Joe and Jamal constantly having to make tough shots made scoring difficult late in the game. Al is not a low post scorer rather a mid-range shooter, we needed to replace Josh with a low post threat to balance out the offense. The only bench player we had available capable of drawing attention in the paint was Zaza. But after Zaza drew his technical, LD benched him as if to reprimand him. Zaza is certainly not my favorite offense player but he brought a size advantage in that game with Josh injured at the PF position. Using Zaza as a PF would have created easier scoring for ours. Instead, we became a jump shooting team by default because of LD lineup in the 4th. LD was criticizing to the media that we settled for too many jumpers as if he had nothing to do with it.

What happen to the motion offense in the 4th? If the players shot are not falling, you go to plan B. We never did. It was ISO Joe, ISO Jamal, ISO Marvin, ISO Al, ISO Teague Damien, ISO Teague (LOL). We did run some pick and roll with Al but that was about it. Otherwise, we had a stagnated offense with no balance. Teague can only help on offense in transition in up-tempo but LD decided to play the slow tempo half court game. Teague will defer in that situation and will not be much of an offense contributor.

It is late in the season and the rotation still sucks. Never put Powell and Zaza in the game at the same time. Hello, is anybody home? This is a bad combination. LD bought a new car in Hilton and apparently not going to (at least) test drive it, what a waste. We could have used some shot-blocking help. LD new nickname is Larry “slow to respond” Drew.

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News from around the league;

From ESPN.com;

Highly coveted free agent Troy Murphy is signing with the Boston Celtics..

That comesas no surprise, because Murphy wants to win a ring.

The Oklahoma City Thunder signed center Kendrick Perkins to a multiyear contract extension Tuesday, the team announced.

Terms of Perkins’ contract with the Thunder weren’t disclosed. The Celtics had reportedly offered him a four-year, $22 million contract. Perkins was reportedly seeking a deal worth $30 million over that same span..

That is a big surprise to me. I thought OKC would want to wait until he has played a few games for them to see how healthy he is, to see how he fits, and to see what the new CBA says.

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If Teague could develop a mid-range jumper + work on his game around the rim, he’ll be fine.

I don’t think he court vision is all that bad. I think he sets guys up pretty nice.

Marvin Williams is the weak link on this team. We talked about Josh’s identity, but I think Marvin’s even more loss, even though his identity is clearly defined for him. Actually, it’s not even an identity problem, it’s just a Marvin problem. He’s horrible. All he has to do is play good defense, hit the open jumpers, and hit the glass. Nobody needs this guy to create his own shot. He can find more than enough looks through the flow of the offense, moreso than any other Hawk on the roster, but he still struggles the most.

Moving forward, I hope Drew continues to play Teague. Let him play through his mistakes, and prepare him to play meaningful minutes in the playoffs. His defensive prescence alone should be an asset when we move into playoff basketball and we play some of the best PG’s in the East (Rose, Rondo, Nelson). That right there is why I think Miami will be highly disappointed with their Mike Bibby expenditure.

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O’Brien

March 1st, 2011
12:12 pm

“If the Hawks are up 20 with 5 minutes left (which they were against Portland), why do we need more (streaky) offense from Jamal? Dont we need defense?”

And co-sign O’Brien. That’s exactly what I was thinking while that game was going on. We’re up by 20, we don’t need any more points. We had enough. We needed defense, but LD didn’t make any adjustments. I thought it would’ve made more sense to close that game out with Teague, Hinrich, and JJ than having Hinrich, Jamal, and JJ out there.

I really question LD’s rotations at times. Sometimes I just wonder why he chooses to go with the looks he does.

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“Great observation re: Teague’s finishing plays at the rim.
That’s why these kids need to let their arms and legs get strong.”

Teague is plenty strong. His inability to finish strikes me more as mental than anything. He is finally playing with reckless abandon on defense instead of playing not to make a mistake, but that hasn’t translated to his offense yet. He’s still too scared to shoot for fear of missing (and a couple of early misses only compounds this issue) and he’s too worried about getting his shot blocked when he goes inside. Considering that he actually does a good job of drawing fouls when he wants to, he should just go in with that mindset all the time and not worry so much about finishing or getting blocked.

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“The second half of that sentence…only in Atlanta…”

And Miami. Half that crowd for Knicks-Heat was pulling for the visitor. Everyone likes to diss Hawks fans, but 40+ years of ineptitude and a front office that is happy maintaining a status quo of losing in the second round gives fans in ATL a valid excuse not to care about the Hawks. There is no excuse for Heat fans not to fill up their building, when they have managed to get two of the league’s best and most exciting players on their roster playing together.

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“I say Miami doesn’t get better with Bibby on the floor. Defense is part of the game also.”

You must not have taken notice of just how abysmal Arroyo and Chalmers are. Bibby will be an improvement for them, as pathetic as that sounds. He’s a perfect fit for their offense.

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Marvin is a bum…PERIOD!!!! and same ole excuses from just a dumb team…PERIOD!!!

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Josh Smith may be out for a few, I don’t know if that’s a problem are a blessing. Hilton Armstrong should be his replacement at least for a defensive presence and you don’t have to worry about him boggin up the offense. Points will come, put ISO Joe the POUNDER at small forward and Al at center. Just bench Marvin he’s useless and more useless and go with Josh Powell and Twin and find some CBA call up who can score for the moment, until that “smoove” person comes back. I just want this year over and next year you have Al, Jamal, Jeff Teague, Hilton and Heinrich…..Send the rest of those “SOFT’S” away. How could I have ever figured Marvin could play, jhe just can’t, not with men.

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It’s hilarious how LebronCenter is hyping up Mike Bibby as possibly being a “key acquisition”. Not saying that he very well may be, but it’s amazing how a player can be viewed as a washed up scrub on one team, can be key championship piece for another.

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Najeh, now that is hilarious….when Bibster never got a sniff as a Hawk…and are the NBA experts praising the move also?

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Najeh,

Agreed. LD was always going to have higher expectations.

But northcyde’s point is well taken. There’s absolutely no consistency in the criticisms when NOTHING you do isn’t wrong for SOMEONE.

Perfect example of “damned if you do, damned if you don’t”.

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Najeh

Thanks for the Teague comments re: body strength and muscle mass.
His shot is a line drive, no arch and he barely lifts off the floor, which per James Jones, “I save a few seconds by not jumping too high.”

In contrast, Ray Allen has a really high jump/lift and he taps his two big toes together, at the point of release. His jumper takes longer to get off than James Jones, but each player has studied their form and technique.

Bibby, like Teague also shoots a line drive, but perhaps is taller, with a higher release point and a ton of game experience. Jeff is intriguing and I hope he develops for The Hawks. Finishing takes heart amongst the trees. Tegue has heart, how much? IDK.

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If you’ve ever watched Armstrong play, than you know he does not deserve any PT at all. If you need LD to play him simply to reaffirm this notion, you will be waiting a long time. Think ZaZa but much worse.

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and ROFL @ BIBBY GIVING UP 6.2 MILL

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“Would you buy Pizza from Pizza Hut, if you lived in Decatur, GA on I-20W and Memorial Drive? Hell no, then why should you go down to Phillip’s Arena for that type of customer service?”

MB, That’s cold (LoL)

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We shoulda git rid of Jamal. His defense is just as bad as Bibby’s. I’d rather have an avg 2 guard or sf who can play a little defense. I like Jamal as a scorer off the bench, but
1. LD refuses to play him at his best position.
2. He, for some unknown reason, leaves him in when his shot is off. And
3. Jamal should NEVER be on the floor in the 4th, when we’re LEADING. Makes no sense.

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I think some of the criticisms of LD’s player combos just come from fans seeing what is working on the court, sometimes night after after night. Like it became obvious that on a consistent basis, wilkens was outplaying Mo, but LD just stuck with Mo. Or Teague would look good, and then no Jeff Teague. Or Marvin’s ineptness most nights. Or his player combo’s, refusal to play Etan, JC2 etc. And some criticisms have been unwarranted. And I do think maybe LD is making some rookie mistakes, and is also coaching for his job, esp. before the trade. I like LD and want him to be the greatest Coach ever, but we have to call them as we wee them.

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Kapono or Brewer?

Hawks really need someone that can shoot – not score but shoot;

Hawks really need another athletic wing that can score and defend;

will ATL Spirit fill last spot and forgo luxury tax rebate?

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Teague played well on Ty and Felton last night. Teague is solid on D, but he is going to have to learn to control an offense. Glad Hinrich is here for the next 2 seasons. As a matter of fact, my concern has moved from PG to Marvin and JJ. Unless he becomes solid, I hope we trade Marv in the off season. Cut our losses and move on. And JJ no longer has it. January got my hopes up, but in the past he would have taken over a game lime last night. Bbut he was double teamed. It just seems like something is missing out of his game. Not sure what.

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our ONLY f’n hope for Marvin is that he RETIRES…PERIOD!!!! take up bass fishin’…or somethin’!!!

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Etan must stink in practice, because I would sure give him some burn. I think he’s better than JP

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“6 inch sub, and a sloppy Joe”

LOL ROF!!!!

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looks like the Hawks may have some interest….

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

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true Ra’mon, but is Brewer needed. does he give us anything that we don’t already have?

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If Leon Powe is 100%, give me him over Brewer any day of the week. Powe was a beast before he tore up his knee, and I still don’t see what makes Brewer any different from Damien. Considering the, uh, questionable state of the Hawks’ backup big men, a tenacious rebounder and scrappy defender like Powe would help a lot. Hopefully it would at least mean the Hawks could say goodbye to the idea of Powell receiving any more meaningful minutes.

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myrak43 4:26 pm

“looks like the Hawks may have some interest….”

In whom? / I scanned hh & saw nothing?

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Najeh, Thomas was a beast before his injury. I haven’t seen the same Powe since he was injured. This entire season he’s only played in 14 games for a team that set the record most consecutive losses, and that’s after Varejao went down with injury. Brewer was averaging 8 pts, 2 reb, and 1.6 steals per game. The acquisition of Brewer is more about the health issues of Marvin than it is about Wilkins. Marvin is always an awkward fall away from being out for 3 weeks. We lost two wing players, and have replaced neither of them. A player like Brewer would also help keep the pressure on offenses when Joe isn’t in the game. Right now we only have one defensive wing on the bench, and that’s Wilkins. In the east this year you need 2 defensive wings at least on the bench.

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2 games behind Orlando….will it really matter if we have 1 more home game as a 4? I think we will be able to hold off the Knicks if Hindrich is productive quickly.
Magic/Knicks tonight…I say keep the Knicks down if possible.

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myrak43

Thanks

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* Rah-sue-uhl * Butler [in case anyone is interested]

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ag,

In reference to Powe; His agent, Andy Miller, emailed USA Today on Monday to say: “We are in the process of evaluating our options. I fully anticipate us signing with a high profile playoff team, with championship aspirations by no later than Thursday.” Chicago Tribune

Notice he said “Championship Aspirations” Dont think they are gonna look at Sund and company.

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Stretch Powe would not make us championship contenders anyway, all though he would (if Healthy) help out big time. what we need is more bench scoring, that is really not Powe’s game.

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I agree with you on that 100%. But does Sund know that? Man they really need some scoring off the bench. Lets hope they make one more move this season.

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would be nice if we could get all three, but I think Ideally Kapono and Brewer both would be the best move, but if we only can get one of the three I would pick up Butler.

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Dang myrak4. A SF that can do all that? The owners must be sick of Marvin too.

Coach Drew probably told Sund, “I need some horses! Not pony tails!”. Marvin is useless to me out there. Get me Rasual Butler in here and we’ll just “shake, bake, rattle and roll” with that. Yep, your Daddy is gonna’ take these knuckle head, crotch sniffing soft azzes to the promised land.”
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Drew isn’t as dumb or smart as he looks. But, he does seem to have some say in personnel decisions. He wants Jamal back, so, there it is.

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The Hawks will not get a better opportunity to acquire a bargain discount player than now. Once these FA players hit the open market during the off-season, the Hawks will find a reason to pass on any quality player unless he’s vet min. You would think without a meaningful draft pick, the Hawks would get more aggressive right now.

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myrak43, if NY catches us, we got Chicago, or perhaps Miami(and the refs) ,or Boston, in the 1st rd.

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Wizards and Al Thronton agreed to a buyout. Get on the MFing phone Sund…

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Al Thornton is the guy the Hawks should target. BTW why didn’t the Hawks asked for instead of Hilton?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/2011-03-01-656201331_x.htm

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Dr Mary,

You are probably not the only one laughing. But seriously i really do think this team could make a couple of moves and get Teague and Hinrich going and probably make some noise in the East.

But right now, its up to management to show that they are serious!

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I keep wondering why do LD keep playing this dam smallish lineup is beyond my belief.
Last night in the second half he went with JAMAL, JOE, DAMIEN, MARVIN, HORFORD, LD continue to properly miss direct this team in a suitable way 2 where they can compete on a championship level, now he have 3 bigs on this team and armstrong who is a good defender in the paint plus with good skills haven’t play in 1 game yet, what in the H is LD thinking is beyond my mind, we can’t blame RICK SUND because he have gotten the player but LD MISS UTILIZED THEM, if rick sund would have never traded bibby, teague would still be on the bench GO FIGURE.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!

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I don’t think other team’s scrubs are really the answer … the Hawks already have plenty of ‘em to go around.

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AL THORTON IS 10TIME BETTER THAN MARVIN, my vote is 100percent al thorton plus he is a georgia boy.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

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This team is not good enough to be hand picking play off opponents, just yet. Woa! Nellie.

Let’s see what’s up with Josh’s knee first. Get Captn. Kirk adjusted and play some Defense. If we are not gonna play “pants on fire” defense?
Then who we play, is a moot point anyways.

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STARTER TEAGUE, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD, ARMSTRONG
BENCH HINRICH, JAMAL, THORNTON, POWELL, ZAZA
RESERVE DAMIEN, COLLINS
MARVIN IN STREET CLOTHES BEHIND THE BENCH
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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A lot of quality role players passing us by…people can say our bench is good, but it’s honestly terrible, aside from Jamal/Hinrich, on occasion Zaza we are thin in that aspect I say we try our best to get Thorton, if not Butler can play some SG/SF and is a marksman from deep…

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Now that Thornton is available, I change my vote for Brewer to Thornton. Al would be the starting SF in less than 3 weeks. And this would actually help motivate Marvin even more. Imagine this line up

Starters
Teague – Joe – Thornton – Josh – Al

Bench
Kirk – Jamal – Wilkins – Marvin – Zaza

That line up is ten times better than the line up that we had previously. Also no one has says this, but Boston’s trade of Perkins just solidified that Al will be playing the playoffs at the 5 instead of PF. The only center have to worry about is D12.

If the Hawks offer Thornton a two season deal through next season at Mo Evans money, I’m sure he would accept.

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Rod,

. In looking at Portland’s scoring the guys that killed us in the 4th quarter were Wesley Matthews, Andre Miller, and Lamarcus Aldridge. Marvin can not, and would not check any of those players, so your Marvin should end the game belief does not make any sense..

Considering that Andre Miller and Wesley Matthews are both guards, chances are Jamal was guarding one of them, while JJ played SF. LD should have gone to Hinrich on Miller, and JJ on Matthews, instead he went with Jamal guarding Miller or Matthews.

Marvin would not score 10 points, no argument from me there. But Jamal in the game is just as bad as having Bibby in the game sometimes. It’s easy to get caught up in “Jamal scored 10 points in the quarter” but what gets overlooked is how many points he gives up.

Scoring is our problem in the 4th quarter, not defense..

Hawks gave up 34 points to Portland in the fourth, but defense was not our problem?

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O’Brien,

Scoring in the 4th quarter in general, not just that game is what I meant.

I understand what you are saying, but would you rather have someone in the game who scores 10 points and gives up 12, or someone who gives up 12, does not score at all, and trips or gets his shot blocked every time he touches the ball. Hinrich will help, but obviously he does not know are system well enough to be in at crunch time yet. Marvin’s defense is not good enough to offset his terrible offense. Jamal’s offense is good enough to offset his defense. Plus it takes the focus off of Joe Johnson. The real solution is to get a 3 that can score and defend like Thornton or Brewer to replace Marvin, then maybe you won’t see Jamal. Until then, LD is doing the right thing.

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Gee,

Bibby was a horrific influence on this team, I don’t care if he starts for a contender. After his first year with us, was only good for handing the ball off to Joe and partying. He saw us as not being a true contender and never gave it his all. He’s expired. I’m very happy he is gone. He was best at exerting the least possible amount of effort as to not get injured, slowly walking the ball up the court and making the first pass leisurely with 12-14 seconds on remaining on the shot clock. He wore his teammates out on the court, and though they miss him as a locker room jokester, i’m sure they feel more confident in Teague/Hinrich/ this teams ability (hence the defensive effort in the past 3 games) to win games.

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Really disheartening to know that the fan base here keeps adding names to the list that would produce more consistently than our current SF:

Cory Brewer
Al Thornton

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Pat Ewing Jr. be able to take minutes away from Marvin…that is, if our coach wasn’t insistent on keeping Marvin on the court for 30mpg.
Drop it to 15 and give anyone else a chance.

Who’s really making the lineup decisions around here?

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Why does Thorton want to sign with Golden State? Last year, I felt we should have got Thorton. I know he is better than Marvin. Can anyone tell me what Marvin weighed at NC? I bet he has gained over 50lbs. He is listed at 240, but he is closer to 260.

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Butler
+ Long wing with limited ball skills, but a solid defender at either spot.

+ Average athlete who rarely rebounds or makes plays around rim.

+ Good long-range shooter with feet set, but can’t create own shot.

Butler is an NBA rarity — a middling athlete who still manages to be a good defender. He’s long and competes, and he doesn’t make mistakes or gamble. In fact, he had the lowest rate of steals per minute at his position.

That carries over to the offensive end, where he posted the ninth-lowest turnover ratio at his position but mostly stuck to the perimeter for his shots. Butler took half his tries from beyond the arc, making a disappointing 33.6 percent, and hit more than 40 percent of his long 2s for a second straight season.

Butler was much better shooting 2s from the left corner than from the right one — he made 32-of-59 from the left and only 11-of-50 from the right. While the left corner shot is slightly easier for a right-handed player because the backboard is less of a factor, one normally doesn’t see such a glaring disparity. In previous seasons, the difference wasn’t nearly as large, so it’s likely a one-year aberration.

For a long-armed 6-7 wing, Butler is a surprisingly bad rebounder. He ranked 65th out of 67 small forwards in rebound rate, and that’s a pretty normal performance for him.

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Marvin has a decent post up game. Decent, not good. But he could improve. He should go ahead and gain 20 more pounds and take Powell’s place as backup PF.

Seriously, he’d be better than Powell and he wouldn’t take as many jumpers. We need a low post scorer, don’t we? Let it be Marvin. doc has said for two years that he saw Marvin as an eventual 4.

If all he does is work with his back to the basket, he won’t get blocked quite as often (60% of the time, Rod? ) And with the extra weight he could lean on some bigs and keep them out of the lane.

All in all, since we can’t trade him, let’s use his big butt to our advantage.

But that means signing or trading for a starting 3 or turning it over to Damien. I’d be OK with that, but I’d like a better shooter.

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myrak43,

If we play the Heat, Hinrich will be guarding DWade and JJ will be resting while he “guards” Bibby.

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Can’t win them all. Teague is a rookie in minutes and experience. We go 2-2 on the road with him the starter. That is not bad at all. Let’ s see if he plays better offensively at home considering most role players do.

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Marvin has a below average back to the basket game. I think Bibby has a better back to the basket game! I will say 80% when he posts up, his shot gets blocked.

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“What are the excuses for the Braves and Falcons? Attendance for those teams has always lagged significantly behind their record in the standings too.”

The Falcons have historically been even worse than the Braves — no back to back winning seasons until last season, no superstar QB until Vick got here. But they sold out while Vick was here and they are selling out now that the Falcons (at least in the regular season) give off the appearance of being an elite team. (I’d bet though that if they continue losing in the first round of the playoffs, they’ll stop selling out soon enough.)

The Braves drew really well in the 90s when they were a legit threat for a title. They stopped drawing well in the ’00s when it became clear their window for winning a title closed.

The transplants explain the ATL fan base to an extent, but they don’t come close to explaining it entirely. The real problem — if you see it as a problem — is that ATL’s fans only show up if the team has a superstar or a legit chance of winning a title. Throughout ATL’s sports history, attendance has peaked when one or the other was true (I don’t know if this is true or not for hockey though).

You’re not wrong about ATL having a high percentage of transplants, but this is the case in pretty much every city outside of the Northeast or Midwest. When you watch the Celtics go to places like Phoenix, Denver, Miami, etc. there are a ton of their fans there, just like there are tons of Steeler fans or Cub fans in the crowd when those teams travel to those types of locations. I don’t see the evidence for ATL’s transplant population being higher than any of those cities.

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Sautee why Kirk wouldn’t be guarding Wade all the time, it would be JJ on Wade and Marvin and Smoove on Lebron. but I was talking about when the hawks have the ball, bibby is not going to guard JJ, or Crawford, or Smoove, or Horford. he will be guarding Kirk. and Kirk will eat his lunch

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thoughts on hawks..
teague-good to see him get some starts to get his attention as to what kind of player he wants to be in this league,his quickness is good to help push the pace, playoffs will tell if he will be a hawk or not
joe-joe
marvin- Ive been wanting you to turn into a great player but it doesnt seem to be so in atl
josh-Do not even think about trading josh, he is why phillips arena is called the highlight factory, josh at the 3 in the future would be amazing for the hawks i will substitute 3pt shooting for the ability to score on any 3 in the paint
al-a great center in the east and progressing tremendously each year, once we get a legitimate 7foot+ big man and al goes to four our team will no longer be left out of serious disscussions amongst bos mia orl chi, until then..
jamal-your offensive onslaughts are amazing to see, but if the hawks truly want to hold the o’brien trophy we gotta commit to defense first and jamal is too much $ for the hawks to keep after the year, big fan tho
kirk- going to be great defensively and doing the little things, kirk will hit big shots in the playoffs…watch
zaza-the hawks love zaza i would basically say from the playoff series against the celtics in 08 (him v. garnett). We need to package zaz in a deal

The hawks have a good core with joe josh al, if we can get that 7footer to clog the paint and dominate the glass and let our other guys go to their natural positions we can now contend for an nba finals.hfc95

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I’m probably going to get ripped to shreds for saying this, but I doubt that Al Thornton would help this team. To me he’s like the small forward version of Jamal — a very good scorer who can’t create offense for anyone else and plays horrible defense — except he doesn’t have Jamal’s automatic jumper. Doesn’t rebound well enough for his position either. The Hawks really need the exact opposite of Thornton — a guy who might not be able to create offense for himself that well, but who will knock down every outside shot, play great man to man defense, and do all the dirty work the Hawks need out of their role players. Marvin occasionally is this guy, but not often enough.

There’s a reason Thornton is about to get signed by the Warriors. They are the perfect team for him.

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As for Joe, his max contract is probably untradeable right now and he (unlike Marvin, Zaza, and Bibby before he left) is actually providing decent value, but if the Hawks can move him in the summer of 2012 to get CP3 or Deron Williams it would really bring this team up another level. Yeah, it’s wishful thinking, but out of all the possible scenarios it’s the best one for the Hawks.

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No way they sign Jamal going forward, hench Hindrich is ready to take on that role should Teague start producing more. You lose Jamal off that bench, then wow, there is not a lot of production coming then.

You simply have little leverage for any moves until you move Zaza and Marvin…..we need BK for that kind of miracle.
Marvin is going to have to improve his numbers to attract ‘any’ interest. Sund wasted way too much time this past summer making us trust in the core.

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“If Mike is coming here soon, which we all believe, he’s going to help us out tremendously,” Lebron James said.

Now he knows basketball.Every ball player has flaws,but if you plug a ball player into a system where all he has to do is help out and not try to be the man all the time.We all know Bibby is old,but with the right system and the right pieces around him he could come back to life all together.Everyone wants a point guard that is all flashy and all but do you think about the real things.Leadership,Experience,knows how to run a offense.I promise you it might seem all good now because were doing better but losing a vet like bibby is going to hurt this team.Look at Derek Fisher,Hes around good talent and is in the system fit for him,Spot up shooter.

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Seems to me Lebron and Dwanye like the bibby pick up.They apprieciate what he brings.Solid Shooting

“Certain moves are surprising and unexpected,” Wade said. “The Mike Bibby (trade) was probably the most surprising, unexpected move. A lot of people think it was the Kendrick Perkins move (from Boston to Oklahoma City), but I think it was Mike Bibby. No one expected that. He became available and when opportunities present themselves you’ve got to jump on them.”

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Najeh, you may be right about Thornton. But I would want to see another wing added to the lineup, and not Mario West, lol.

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myrak43,

If we play the Heat, I would expect to see Bibby guarding Marvin, since he’s the least threat. If Spoelsta has a brain, he’ll keep Bibby as far from the ball as possible on defense. That means putting him on Marvin.

If he DOES put Bibby on Hinrich, then you are correct, Josh and Al will be getting oops galore as their bigs rotate to Hinrich penetrating.

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If i were the hawks i would package zaza for oj mayo in the offseason. They need a back up big man after thabeet was traded. Also i would buy out etan thomas’s contract. 800 k for him to sit on the bench? I dont think so. Hawks should also look in trading marvin. Good rebounder but makes way to much money for him to miss shots.

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lmfao Big Ray

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Sautee…. you think they would put Bibby on Marvin? Really? 6 foot 1 Bibby on 6 foot 9 Marvin, that would be the day Marvin goes for 40 points 20 rebounds.

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myrak43

Marvin could not go 40, 20, & 15 against air.
Besides
Why would we have Marv guarding Bibby?
There is no rule that states you must guard the man who guards you.

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I would prefer Joe Alexander or Courtney Sims from the D-League
> over > Marv !
Both having big seasons.
Sims has a big season every year / someone should give him a chance.
Heck;
bring up Pape Sy & let him play the [3].
He’s supposed to be a superb defender.
Just get Marvin off the court!

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I find all of your comments about me rude and disrespectful. I love the hawks. I would love for us to win a championship. But since my butt extends from my body at an abnormal way, I cant be mr. big shot. Please understand my big ass butt is the reason why you guys hate me. Please blame my but not me.:(

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Hawks over Bulls tomorrow.

Note: If all our players are good to go.

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Holy sh-t. 97 attempted free throws in a regular season game. That is brutal.

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Rod – I’m finally on board with you. Unless something amazing happens this last part of the season, time to let Marvin go. Get 2 vet min. Guys that play hard and won’t hurt you, I don’t care. Marvin has proven that unless he wants to, he’s not a good NBA player. Maybe a 10-13 guy to fill out your bench, but not a solid rotational guy. He can be, but he’s not.

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Northcyde – Even the Marvin we’ve seen flashes of earlier this year, where did that guy go? 12-6 solid D. minimize mistakes, yes, I’d take that Marvin. Where is he? Man the dudes looked terrible in a couple of games recently. Like consistently embarrassingly terrible.

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FOOD FOR THOUGHT-The Hawks DEF held its last 3 opponents to an average of 87PPG. Prior to that, our DEF held only ONE(1)opponent below 87pts over the last 24gms. I think it’s obvious Zaza will be moved after the season and Jamal will not be resigned. It will be interesting to see who replaces them.

It will also be interesting to see what we decide to do with Marvin. Will he be traded, moved to the bench, or remain our starting SF. By combining Bibby’s and Jordon Crawford’s salaries with the money we’ll save by not having a 1st rd pick, KHinrich $9M salary should be covered.

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Ken Strickland

I have a gut feeling – they will keep Jamal. (if @ all possible)
I think they move Zaza & / or Marv.
Jamal will not get the same $ he currently reveives.
Nobody wants a draft pick this yr = weak draft.
If the choice was trade “Z” or Marv then I would trade MW
for an equally bad contract – just to get him oughta here.

I don’t know why or what’s wrong but he has quit.
Not so much on the team, he has quit on himself.
Maybe the occasional benching then the trade rumors
messed with his psyche? *[Marvin] that is.

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Waive Marvin ASAP..HE’s no good .He can’t help in crunch time..HAS NO HEART or the skill set! TOO WEAK..OUT OF SHAPE etc………….BLAH BLAH BLAH……………

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with his length and lack of agility, marvin’s future is a power forward by gaining muscle and showing desire and heart. since we already have two of them, he doesnt belong here, a bit of a road block.

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Isn’t sad that Damien Wilkins looks better than Marvin out there… at least damien looks like he cares and puts the effort in… MARVIN YOU SUCK

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THe one thing the Hawks should have done was deal Marvin Williams… we could of easily done… We have to move him next summer…. Someone will take a flyer on him and nba gms have taken on worse contracts…

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Michael Jordan’s Charlotte, it appears, has replaced Cavs as the upstart trying to crash bidding, with Brewer still weighing his options about 6 minutes ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html#ixzz1FQIn02wA

He’s probably going elsewhere as well

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Why Not?

Why not just waive Marvin? If possible, what would something like that cost us? Can we offer him a buy out?
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I am done with this guy with a man pinned down on his mammoth azz,
Marvin threw two fast balls back out to Teague. This is the 3rd and critical qrtr of the Denver game. Marvin has no passion nor desire to play lights out nightly.

How do you in year six, not take pressure off the young PG in this situation. Or, try to get to Al, but definitely take that big azz towards the paint. Inside – Outside? Isn’t that what Coach is preaching?

“We took to many jump shots tonight” has worn it’s pathway down and out with us bloggers.

Aye Gearon!
“Give me a reason, to turn this car back around.”
-Tracy Chapman-

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Rasaul Butler anyone?

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Clyde, you’re my boy but I completely disagree.

Rod will back me up on this one: Marvin has NEVER in his career stated he wants to be a star. Watch his At Home BS show with James Verrett and you’ll see the guy has no interest at all in basketball. He’s just tall.

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Curry being waived…..not a shock…the guy simply is not willing to commit..he has sat for the better part of 2+years.

And I find this totally the mindset of this organization:

“Obviously we would have liked to have done better but I think it’s acceptable to finish off 3-4,” coach Larry Drew said.

What a settlers mentality! Im sure Sund congratulated the staff and team on their successful road trip as well.

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Marvin has 3 years, $22 mil left after this season. I think the Hawks are stuck with duck, a.k.a. big clumsy.

I also think we are stuck with ZaZa (2 years, $10 mil left) after this season. Hopefully ZaZa will continue to bring the rebounding and energy we’ve seen the last couple games. Or Maybe LD should bench him every 5 games or so, to get him riled up.

Looking forward to the Bulls game tonight. I hope Hinrich will be ready to D-Up D. Rose (and I would be okay with HInrich starting tonight). It would be nice if Josh can play too, because if he is out, that means more minutes for Josh Powell.

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What’s the deal with J.Smith? Any word on his injury? Will he go tonight?

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I agree. Hold Hinrich and Smoove out if they’re not ready to ball. Celtics did that kinda stuff last season, and almost won a championship.

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Teague can hang with DRose. Marvin, if his head is in game can hang with Deng. I say start Etan on Boozer, and give him the D12 treatment. And of course, Al can more than hang with Noah. Wilkens, Jamal, Zaza off the bench, and you can rest Smoove and Kirk.

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Throw Collins and Hilton on Boozer, Powell also. Just give him the D12 treatment tonight if Smoove is out.

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And speaking of bad trades, getting rid of Pau Gasol has to rank right up there with the worst trades in Hawks history. And Jamaal Tinsley for what turned out to be Dan Dickau was pretty bad to.

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“f I were Sund? I would pay Marvin to stay away from the team or, put on a call to Tonya Harding and her Ex to rearrange his knees.
What could Brandon Roy do with a pair of barely used knees is priceless.
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OK, I’m done. I feel so much better. PMS is a b!atch.

LOL – ROF” Awesome! LOL!!

Deng is going to take Marivns lunch money. Marvins going to cry home to mommy tongiht!!! LOL

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Prediction: Chicago by 20 tonight………….

Marvin does not have to work on anything but kicking rocks……

Jettison the Core Scottie! Yes Captain…………..

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i think boozer has the capacity to make etan and collins look like 7 ft spinning tops as he goes quickly to the basket unless they club him before he moves.

heh heh @ fundamentals, with the total package of the celts (we certainly coudnt have given over a talent like perkins) have and the heat, big three and co., i think they have the capability to use bibby with his limited skills, maybe. both those teams play very tenacious defense that requires a lot of quickness. anyway, celts would have used bibby in a very limited role as he wouldnt move rondo out of his 35 minutes. heat may break down working to cover bibby’s defensive liabilities if they run him out there too much, good luck maybe for us. bottom line bibby was a luxury we couldnt afford. luxury, like if you have to get to some back road villa over rough terrain at the end, you dont take your low slung porsche but your beefy rover to soften the ride all along the way. usually, we end up with jeep’s.

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Either way truth, we just don’t have a knack for finding those key role players…or blatantly obvious All Star/ HOF Talents like others do.

Bibby would’ve been a luxury I agree, sad we can’t flesh out solid players at every position. We have so many pieces that still just don’t seem to fit?

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If the Hawks Bulls blog goes up?

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Bibby is mad

http://mpmcneal.blogspot.com/2011/03/bibby-says-hawks-did-him-dirty-but-hes.html

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Who cares about the FREAKING Crowds!! The Hawks have one the the worst Franchise OWNERSHIP/Management staff for the past 40 plus years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SELL THE TEAM AND WIN A FREAKIN CHAMPIONSHIP AND THE PEOPLE WILL PACK THE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Hawks have mismatches that could be problematic for the bulls which could neutralize their advantages. If JJ brings his game, the bull will not be able to match his physicality at the SG position so their help defense (with Noah) will be required. Their bread and butter (on the block) will be boozier but Josh (if healthy) matches up well against him. If we had Bibby against Rose, we would be toast but Teague/Hinrich will give us a chance. Marvin’s length hopefully will serve him well against Deng. Let’s also hope he plays angry. He just needs to read these blogs to get motivated. Al could bring Noah out of comfort zone which is away from the basket. However, I see Noah having a rebound advantage against Al. Let’s hope it’s not huge. The Bulls bench maybe the difference in the game since they have overall more quality than ours. We are still missing a quality player off the bench beside Jamal.

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Marvin plays like the Matrix, too slow for Deng..Deng will blow past him like he’s stuck in mud…..Just quit Marvin… Your done…………….Your body language does not lie..It says I don’t want to be here..

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LD was SATISFIED with a 3-4 road trip. LOL. We definitely ARE NOT elite.

LOL @ Sund saying how the 2 Finals teams last year had 9 of 10 starters over age of 30, then said we are still very young

Sounds to me like this team will never compete

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No way should Collins or Etan start tonight. Noah is way too active of a big on the boards. Plus Chicago isn’t going to run a lot of offense in the post through Noah, so a guy like Collins won’t neutralize his offense.

If Smith can’t go, the right move may be to start Marvin at the 4, move JJ to the 3, and start Damien at the 2.

Teague – Damien – JJ – Marvin – Horford

or

just go ahead and start Zaza, and see if he can keep a body on Noah and be active enough to keep him from completely dominating the boards

Teague – JJ – Marvin – Horford – Zaza

Regardless of who plays, JJ needs to look to put up a huge number tonight. He may have to take 25 shots and look to score 30+ points. And it would be nice if Jamal helped him out scoring wise.

Our most talented offensive players need to be on their games tonight. Horford can get 20+ points vs Boozer or Noah. Probably need at least 75 points out of JJ – Horford – Jamal tonight. Everyone else needs to be solid defensively and provide timely offense.

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SteveW,

“Teague can hang with DRose.”

I wish I shared your abounding confidence in Teague. I don’t as yet, though I think he has some tools. He just hasn’t learned to use them properly and he’ll be defending this year’s MVP.

Could get ugly.

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“Either way truth, we just don’t have a knack for finding those key role players…or blatantly obvious All Star/ HOF Talents like others do.”

Haha… this requires a GM who makes more than one good draft pick every decade and a coaching staff that knows how to develop players. On the rare occasion that Sund hits on a draft pick (Teague) it takes a trade and subsequent injury for that talent to start getting developed.

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Our medical staff is a joke. Every time a player says he is “okay” or day-to-day, he ends up missing multiple games.

Same with Horford a few weeks ago. He practiced and said he was ready to go, then 3 days later (on a Thursday I believe) we hear his condition had deteriorated

FIRE SUND

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Give Hilton a CHANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Starting Collins is like allowing the Bulls to take a 1st qtr lead…

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