Atlanta Hawks at Trail Blazers: No zest for Zaza

Zaza will be OK

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Zaza is TERRIBLE

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ZAZA=The BIG STIFF

MARVIN=SCARED…………………………..Needs a heart like the tin man…….What a bust…………………

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“What’s a Zaza???

Websters:
Zaza (n): Immobile object attached to a piece of wood.”

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

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no ignorant..

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Stick a fork in Marvin..He’s done starting….For good…………………………

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Northcyde – So every Coach in the history of basketball is equal. I get it. There has never been a Coach who has held a good player down, and when that player was finally given an opportunity, he seized it.

There has never been Coaches who played favorites, and played guys he shouldn’t have, and didn’t play guys he should have.

Northcyde – I’m baffled at your reasoning. Are you related to LD or something?

And why won’t your address Mo’ over Wilkens? Scared it won’t prove your point or something. Face it. LD was addicted to Bibby. Case closed. It’s not that Teague is DRose or something. But he should have been playing, and your not addressing key points made showing you these things:

-Why did LD play Mo’ for weeks on end instead of Wilkens?
-Why did LD play Bibby when Teague was a statistical upgrade in almost every statistical category – see Dec. for example
-Why were the Hawks losing by historic margins?
= Why is Teague suddenly blossoming, when he’s been this player all year long?
-What’s the deal man?

Tons of other stuff, but I’m way tired of this issue. Anyone with half a brain can see it. And you have way more than half a brain. You just want to fight your point I guess.

We know Bibby was the vet LD trusted. And he stunk most nights. Do the defensive stats show how many guys Bibb’s let by, and Josh or Al, or JJ or somebody bailed him out?

Have you been watching the games? Your smart. Guy it’s obvious. Defend LD all you want. Hope he turns into Phil Jackson Jr., but I doubt it.

Hope he wins 10 Championships for the Hawks. But your smarter than this.

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Zaza is awful. Ship his azz, along with Marvin’s big goofy butt outta here.

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Earth calling Joe Johnson. You copy????????

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Iso Joe avg about 17k per pt..Nice……..Not…..

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“OMG HAWKS COULD BE MOVING OUT OF ATLANTA!!!!!!ACCORDING TO ESPN!!!!NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”

I’d move too..Can’t win the big one here after 43 year………….Playoffs???? Really???

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If jj is going to take a lot of shots he will need to produce if he don’t start to play better our season
will not be good

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drew definitely has some issues,errily similar to his former boss.teague could have stopped some of that guard penetration the hawks have allowed. crawford had a god game in dc 2nite. didnt see much time in atl.go figure.zaza not playing in weird.when he plays he contributes. i have always thought starters play too much. i agree, can marvin. he cant consistently hit shots and i have never seen him shut down anyone.joe still holds the ball too long. drew is alot like woody was..

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Teague shoulda played sooner, hinrich will help Teague and Hawks, Marvin should not B starting(could be a good role player), J. Smith should take lessons from Blake Griffin on Attacking Rim and running fast break(he needs to be more aggressive in paint), Horford brings it every night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And that’s DA TRUTH

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Because Marvin is a busted #2 Lottery pick..Why did the Hawks take so long to find that out????????? 6 plus yrs?????? Are You kidding me???????????

And at the same time Jordan Crawford was sitting there rotting away on L.D.’s stinking bench. Someone not named Woody or Woody lite decides to give him some PT and in a little over a quarter’s worth of minutes Crawford winds up scoring almost as many points as Joe Johnson has been averaging in 2011.

The same story with Jeff Teague. From at least the second half of last season Teague should have been out there. I remember from the first time that I saw him play that I was impressed with his hard-nosed defense. While it’s true that he was raw offensively, the fact that he played defense as well as anyone else out there on the floor should have bought him the minutes to allow him to start finding his game on the offensive side of the court.

There is no excuse for the current nor the former Hawks regimes to be so unconcerned, to the point of extreme neglect, for developing the young talent that the Hawks have had. With Woody, I got the distinct impression that he felt that he was coaching for his job security (which, as it turned out, he was) and was not going to take any chances with an untested rookie sinking his coaching ship. I’m not sure if that same reasoning comes into play with Larry Drew since he should be given at least a couple of seasons to prove himself. Whatever these coaches reasons for not developing these talented young guys, the Hawks as an organization are much worse off for it.

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up next in Portland tonight @10:30pm on ESPN…………………OH no…………..Marvin will you please sit the f- down next to your Boy ZAZA??………………………………….Yawn……………..Twin Stiff’s………

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I got the distinct impression that he felt that he was coaching for his job security (which, as it turned out, he was) and was not going to take any chances with an untested rookie sinking his coaching ship. I’m not sure if that same reasoning comes into play with Larry Drew since he should be given at least a couple of seasons to prove himself.

LD may not get that because he is not getting through to smolts. What’s interesting is that Hinrich was calling out the Wizards for lack of effort. He may end up doing the same for the Hawks and they may respond. If that happens watch for LD to jump in and take credit.

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I wish Marvin would step up, Everyone on this blog should realize Marvin should step up & Not rot on the bench, & Marvin should realize that he should step up as well because Unfortunately people The Atlanta Hawks need Marvin, just think about it Almost EVERY Single Time Marvin Williams has a Strong game they win, but Unfortunately for Marvin his shot is broke & he looks outta shape(like his offseason preparation with his Dad needs to stop starting Last summer) I personally think he needs a ballet instructor to help him with his balance, but he and Josh should just drive like Blake, sounds simple anyway… And Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford need to be more consistant because right now they looking like Ed Gray and Eldrige Recaisner! And Hilton Armstrong should be the first Big off the bench

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why even comment on this blog.. he should have been cut.. not traded..we should trade him and Marvin for Jordan Crawford… he had more points then both of them put together!!!! ,… lol

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ZaZa has taken boxing lessons to improve his “footwork”. He needs to take some kind of class to improve his “handswork”

Some players are better at certain roles, and it looks like ZaZa is better on a team where he can play 18-24 mpg consistently. This is not that team.

And this is one of Rick’s mistakes. He is not the HC, but as a GM you must be think about PT going forward. Did Rick think ZaZa wuld continue to get 18-22 mpg when he offered him $18 mil for 4 years?

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Sautee, LD’s son did leave the NC team, that’s a fact. I highly doubt that was because of his dad’s recommendation though. That’s just some BS that Grizzard’s making up.

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I think Wilkins probably will be starting now for Marvin.

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Man u guys on these blogs just spit out some of the dumbest things there are to many things to comment on but the most annoying one is Josh Smith, lets address Josh Smith, Josh is the best player on the team and L.D is finally starting to notice it. Yes he jacks up a lot of perimeter shots but if u actually look at the stats when he is hitting that shot they win the majority of the time and when he doesnt …. well he stops shooting …. he isnt a Carmelo type guy that is going to keep shooting if his shot isnt going down … and yes he does drive to the cup alot but the reason you dont notice it is because he passes the ball out to an open perimeter player. The only really bad move the hawks have made was the signing of Joe Johnson who isn’t even the 2nd best player on the team. The trade for Hinrick was unnessary because JT0 is the perfect point guard for a team jumps hooting starting line up …. L.D should have noticed that but he might have just feel in love with Bibby’s personality and 3point shot…. i honestly hope that they let Hinrich come off the bench just to give Teague a chance to show how he could be another Josh Smith just at the Point

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Shake ups in the starting line up? What might that mean?

The expected starting line up: Hinrich Johnson Williams Smith Horford
A small but athletic lineup: Hinrich Teague Johnson Smith Horford
Or some version of the big lineup: Hinrich (or Teague?) Johnson Smith Horford Armstrong (or Collins?)

With a PG that can actually push the ball and control the tempo, I see no advantage in going with the big line up … unless Armstrong is better than we all expect (but I seriously doubt that).

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I am so sad & so pissed off at ld for not giving jc2 a chance. This man has inner dog & can score from inside or outside. I can see him having a good career. If jj had his heart we would be so much better off. What a dumb move?

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When Josh or Al can command a double team, then you can say they have surpassed JJ. Also, dont be fooled by the Jordan Crawford line, a lot of players get good numbers on bad teams.

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Rookie coach = rookie mistakes – just like a rookie player. Management has to be willing to let them both learn on the fly. Not too concerned over losing JC2 even though he might be a decent player. He won’t be better than JJ, JC1 or Heinrich any time soon.

ZaZa needs to hit the court with attitude & hustle and he will get as many minutes as he can stand. After 25 years he might try to shoot the ball without dribbling first! If the guy would ever learn to play with the ball above his shoulders he would get serious minutes. Most of his mistakes come when he puts the ball on the floor.

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Trojan, we didnt bring Hinrich in to be a sg.

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Hinrich is WAY better at pg than he is at sg. Just ask the Bulls fans. They’ll tell you the same thing. Why take away from what he does best? We’re already doing it twice already, by playing Jamal at the 1, and Josh at the 3.

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Horford should never play center, the only player 2 play out of position is josh, because he is the best smallforward on the team.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

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Why josh continue 2 get the ball 20feet from the basket, why is that because of coach LD not getting on josh and tell him 2 play more on the blocks, if josh get the ball more at the 3position in the paint he could avg easly 20points a game, no smallforward can stop josh in the paint he will either get foul or score.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

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Great article, MC. More of these where we get insight from the players and coach would be great. As for Zaza, less is better. Teague will continue to shine playing PT with Hinrich. Good things will come.

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LD now have 3 center, COLLINS, HILTON, ZAZA, horford should never play center again he is not a center.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

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DONT SLEEP ON ARMSTRONG, this guy can play everybody is talking about hinrich but i like the armstrong trade even better.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!

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MC, I understand where Zaza is coming from…but please Zaza spare us the excuse about playing time. Dude it’s your defense and rebounding that cost you your spot in the rotation…not to mention your inability to finish strong at the rack.

I’m ready to see what Armstrong and Powell can do with those minutes…I don’t want to see lip service from LD this time…guys like Zaza and Marvin expect to continue give mediocre performance and expect to play…you can tell it by there reaction.

Well the fans are sick of Fing mediocre performance and mediocre coaching…it time to let some of these others guys get a chance to compete.

My best wishes to Zaza…he has been blessed with a second opportunity…stop all that whining…and Man the F up when you are on the court…Word up.

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Najeh,

Marvin was a #2 pick and summer league MVP, and what has he done?

From hoopshype;

John Canzano: Keep an eye on Mike Bibby. Portland feels like a potential suitor there, even as Bibby would have to give up big money to make it happen. Twitter.

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My 1st Post Trade Analysis:

(1) Initial Reaction = positive;
Mike Bibby in his day was an all-star caliber pg that did not age well.
*(Steve Nash / Jason kidd / Chauncey Billups et al) = aged well !
KH is one of those players who although not an all-star
is a leader, glue guy, warrior, hard nosed competitor which is just what
the Dr. ordered for the Hawks @ this point in time.

(2) Hilton Armstrong…..I’ve been calling for the Hawks [two yrs. now]
to find a long, rim defender to play the [5] position. A sidekick for Al & Josh.
I * Hope * young Mr Armstrong lives up to that descriptive need for our team.

(3) Now * If * Teaguer becomes a factor along with Hinrich & Jamal continues
to play well alonside better defenders @ the [1]…..this allows Joe to make a…
semi-perm move to the [3]. Presto, all of a sudden we have one of the quickest
defensive teams in the league. Sporting four guys who are supposed to be
pretty good defenders; KH, Joe Josh & Al. Throw in Teaguer @ the [1] & KH
@ the [2] and all of a sudden we are real quick.

*{{{which leads me to my next point}}}*

(4) Supposedly Boston traded Perkins because:
* Now Miami is the team to beat ( not ORL.)
So they felt having perimeter defenders were more important than
having beef to guard D.Howard.
Now KH can guard D.Wade while Joe could guard LbJ.
Or, Teaguer, KH can chase Jameer and Joe doesn’t to cover
for Bibby vs Orlando or any team with superquick pgs anymore.
*[match-ups]*…play-offs!

**final thoughts;
I like the trade, Armstrong is a keeper if he ***[plays hard]***.
We still need another rebounder as we are still small.
I also like Collins and Zaza v Big line-ups especially ORL.
But, they don’t rebound enough, Collins hardly at all.
What to do?
If ASG were commited to a winning culture;
they would make every effort to get Troy Murphy in here.
Get ‘er done!…Won’t happen.
Murphy could be a difference maker for us ““` truly.

As bad as we have looked for the last five games prior to GS,
we looked just the opposite [good] v GS.
Maybe the best that I can remember.
The motion offense was the best all year, crisp passing & cutting.
Joe didn’t kill the offense. Could Bibby have been the problem all along?
If so, Joe I’ll apologize at some point.

Go Hawks!

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I wanted a PG strictly to get Josh and Al more shots and easier shots.
Re: Teague, so far so good.

We all know what Hinrich’s about, but how can he help this team best? at the 1? 2? Starting? Bench? He did say he was sick of coming off the bench behind younger guys to play 30mpg.

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Hopefully we can deal him next year… he can’t match up with any power foward who is actually good in this league (zaza)

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cole aldrich looking good

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ntrigue – Just reminded me why I want Teague to start he plays no role in the second unit, dribble it up hand off to Jamal, sit in the corner, run back down and play defense. Hopefully LD actually LET’S Teague play the PG tonight in that scenario…

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As far as LD’s “lineup change” is concerned, assuming he’s not BSing us like he did last time he mentioned a lineup change, the most likely move to me seems like it would be starting Damien and bringing Marvin off the bench. Maybe he feels that Marvin plays more aggressively with the second unit.

I doubt that he is going to do anything drastic with the backcourt rotation. Hinrich was brought here to play the 1, and that is his best position. Teague has played well the last two games, but I’d be really surprised if that alone earned him the starting job going forward. Hopefully, though, his solid performances against the Suns and Warriors result in extra minutes for him. I do like the idea of occasionally using a small lineup of Teague/Kirk/Joe at the 1-2-3 depending on the matchup, but that shouldn’t be the starting lineup.

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*Meant to say: Here’s the problems with PER by itself:

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And nothing But ….

The Truth. Very, very, very nice post re: PER
I learned a lot from reading that very informative explanation.
For the 1st time I understand how to interpret this PER stat.
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northcyde and najeh has explained this well a zillion times too.
But, with that Truth Post? The light came on.
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I agree that when you watch the game and see the nuances of the refs bad/non calls and measure how the team responds to the bad calls.
Emotionally or Professionally. If we had a Lead Dog @ PG and Center? That would change The Game! PER aside, make some damned plays on defense and then offense flows out of that. This team should run first and run that half-court in the 4th Qrtr.
Because a Champion knows how to win in a variety of ways.

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Smh @ Zaza. There are plenty of bench players around the league that make their presence known in 5 or 6 minutes. Those same players earn extended minutes from the coach because of that.

I don’t want to hear Zaa crying about playing time, when Dejuan Blair scored 6 points and pulled down 6 rebounds in 7 minutes . . in his very 1st regular season game as a rookie. He ended up with 14 pts and 11 rebs ( 5 offensive boards ) in his very first rookie game. A guy that proved his worth right off the bat in the NBA, and has consistently been able to do it.

If you could consistently produce, you would consistently play.

Instead, you have one of the worst shooting percentages for a center in the NBA. You constantly fumble passes. Your turnover rate has been fairly high your entire career. You don’t defensive rebound like you should. A lot of your offensive rebounds come off your own misses. And your defensive awareness is bad at times.

Of course you’re not going to get 20 minutes a game playing like that. You might even get a few DNPs.

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Sean Williams would be leading the league in blocks if he had the same playing time as Zaza.

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Contest a shot instead of just watching someone go in for a open layup Zaza and you might get back in the rotation.

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I can’t believe no one has given the Bibster’s stats after he left…14.5 mpg/ 11%FG / 1ppg
For those who said he could contribute off the bench better than starting….I got your answer above…Bibby watch is on going forward.

JC2, the only way he was going to get PT here???? Joe would have to have been somewhere else, and JC1 would still be on the one year limb w/o an extension. Perhaps JC2 can play…when you get some of his defensive numbers, let me know…I would like to hear how he’s doing on that end of the floor.

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Kinda sucks that the Hawks have to see Gerald Wallace again. That guy always seems to be a pain in the ass for this team.

Portland has a lot of people who can penetrate off the dribble and create their own shots. This will be a good test for the Hawks’ new look defense. I also want to see how the Hawks plan on defending LaMarcus Aldridge — will he draw Smoove or Al on defense?

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Rasual Butler is a good player, don’t know why the Clippers would release him he was playing great until Del Negro immediately cut down his minutes, he would be a good pickup.

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Teague is getting the start tonight, with the small lineup.

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ZAZA=Sheldon”The Slum Lord” Williams. Another Atlanta bust……………The tradition continues……..

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Zaza > Joe Johnson

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Maybe going up against Brandon Roy will get JJ going. LD will have to keep an eye on Teague, because Andre Miller can post him up.

Will Teague have another solid game? Will Marvin get going (and can he slow down Gerald Wallace)? Will ZaZa get any PT? Lots to keep an eye on.

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Does anyone have ESPN Insider? There is an article from Chris Palmer where he compares Lamarcus Aldridge and Al Horford.

“They may never be one-name superstars, but LaMarcus Aldridge and Al Horford are among a small handful of the best power forwards in the league. While Horford plugs perfectly into Atlanta’s scheme as a do-it-all complement to Joe Johnson, Aldridge has exceeded expectations after being thrust into the role as the Blazers’ go-to star.”.

Can somebody post the rest?

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“Marc J. Spears: Potential suitors for @Rasual Butler once he clears waivers includes BOS, ATL, NJ, NY and OKC, source tells Y! Sports. Twitter”

I wouldn’t mind adding Butler with the final roster spot.

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That Insider article about Aldridge vs. Horford is posted in full here.

Somehow all the Insider articles seem to make it on to that Chinese forum within hours of being posted. This is like the 6th time.

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The Los Angeles Clippers have bought out Rasual Butler, and he plans to sign with the Chicago Bulls, a league source told ESPN The Magazine’s Ric Bucher. Butler must clear waivers before he can sign with the Bulls. ESPN.com

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Read the Aldridge vs. Horford article and even though, based on the two, Aldridge should get the up on Al, Al is a necessity for the Hawks! W/o Al in the lineup, we lost 41pt games..

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lewis,

“Yeah, it was in MC’s interview. Not exactly, “i don’t like starting behind younger guards,” forgot what he said, but going from different teams to “mentor” 1st and 2nd year point guards does probably get old”

lewis, I usually have very little disagreement with you. But in this instance, I want to suggest to you that if you say that someone “said something”, then either admit off the bat that it’s a paraphrase, or find the exact quote. To do otherwise is to confuse what Hinrich said. If someone who had NOT read the article (I had) about him mentoring Rose and Wall read your words they would assume that Hinrich said the words you put in his mouth (which was FAR less flattering then his actual words, therefore making him seem like a complainer, when he was merely answering a question honestly. He never gave any indication that he was “sick of coming off the bench” as you said he did.

Just a friendly suggestion for the betterment of the blog.

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We had nazr mohammed locked up at 5 mill a year, traded him away for no good reason and been stuck with zaza for 8 long years, incredible.

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And I saw the heading on the front of the Hawks page here on AJC.com titled, “Zaza unhappy with the lack of minutes”.

Really Zaza? Are you unhappy? Because all Hawks fans everywhere are unhappy with your play when you do get minutes.

How bout actually showing some progression from game to game…year to year?

You’ve been the same player for like 3 seasons now.

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( sigh )

How good is Chauncey Billups?

Talk about leadership . . he would’ve been perfect on the Hawks. The perfect leader for us. Regardless of how the Knicks – Heat game turns out, he made some HUGE plays down the stretch.

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I didnt realize the Hawks had 2 TPE. Oh well, it doesn’t matter they wasn’t going to use any of them anyway..

Atlanta Hawks
Current Commitments: $69.6 million
Remaining Cap Space: $0
Luxury Tax Status: No
Mid-Level Exception: Full amount available
Bi-Annual Exception: Full amount available
Traded Player Exception: 2 ($3.6 million – Josh Childress; $1.0 million – Jordan Crawford)

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18916

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LOL @ Drew . . so Hinrich may start the 2nd half?

JJ good shot off the screen.

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Gotta finish that JT.

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Good setup for Al that time, though. Teague has done that well over the last few games, drawing the defensive attention and setting up Al with the open shot.

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wow 2 fouls on horford not good

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tell this commentator to stfu

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Do we see ZaZa?

Al with 2 fouls, Aldridge balling…

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I hope we’re not completely screwed after those fouls on Horford. Most likely we are going to struggle with him out for the amount of time that Larry Drew will most likely sit him now. Josh might have to play nearly the entire half now, since our lineup can’t afford to have both Smith and Horford out.

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“Aldridge balling”

Too Big and Gifted for Josh

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yea hes too big for josh

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Teague with the steal.

Zaza looking much more active so far… let’s hope that continues and he doesn’t turn the ball over.

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zaza in the game wdf

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@ Najeh . . . most games start about 5 – 10 minutes after their listed start time. A 9:45/10:45 start to a west coast game isn’t unusual.

There you go Zaza. Make an impact. 2 quick rebounds already.

Nice steal by Teague.

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Hawks play smarter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Will ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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So at least Marvin can make technical free throws, something the rest of this team can’t do. I guess that makes him worth $7 million per year.

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Why doesnt JJ foul him? Its not like Jj gets in foul trouble, but he gives up an easy 2…

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GW!!!!! Are you Kidding me????????????????????????????//WTF??

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lol@hawks

still in love with the jump shot

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Zaza wants that playing time.

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It’s amazing how Portland can bring quality player after quality player off the bench, and we have so many scrubs getting minutes for this team.

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We need to play smarter on Defense,

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The Hawks look awful right now, but Zaza is surprisingly giving quality minutes. Josh is taking a lot of shots, but at least he’s trying to go inside for those shots.

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Josh SMith, 0-3 outside the paint already…

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I dont understand why our best players ALWAYS come out flat ? Its like they arent playing for anything .

just gotta text from a friend saying that with Dwill coming to the east Joe has probably made his last all star team

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wtf was that

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Can’t get no foul calls.

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Josh doesnt trust Kirk yet. That’s obvious

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:CRY:

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thanks hinrich for a bailout on that trip

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ZAZA came to play tonight!

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lmao zaza is playing mad

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Zaza earning his minutes tonight. Good job!

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Zaza came to play tonight. Good job on the glass by Zaza. Solid first quarter for the Hawks. Missed some wide open shots but still solid effort

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Giving credit to ZP, playing like he has heard a direct order from the general.

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Zaza,

This is the intensity you bring each and every night! Also, great defensive quarter from the Hawks!!

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Hawks are flat tonight, but a little defense and Aldridge hurt equalizes things a bit….

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Damn Zaza trying to play with some fire. Need to bench him for a couple of games more often. Maybe he’ll give this type of effort all the time.

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Arguably as impressive as his 7 rebounds was his consistently good decision making with the basketball. Yeah, he got his shot blocked once, but he found the right guy every time and never tried to do too much.

Seriously, where the f-ck has this guy been?

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Josh thought about a jumper, changed his mind, took it to the hole and scored. Thats what I’m talking about Josh.

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See Zaza . . . there’s no conspiracy or agenda againt you. All you have to do is play at somewhat of a high level. Whatever it is that you do best, that’s what you need to do EVERY NIGHT.

7 rebounds in 8 minutes ( 4 offensive )

3 assists

That’s IMPACTING the game. You as a player simply have to put yourself in position to make those tyopes of plays.

Good job Zaza.

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Zaza!!!!!!!!!!

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zaza is wow…

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ZAZA ATE HIS SPINACH TODAY??? HE’S POPEYE THE SAILOR MAN….

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ZaZa playing like he doesn’t want to relocate his restaurant…

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REFS SUCK……….

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Jamal made a defensive play. Have we entered the Twilight Zone?

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Why the hell is Jamal at the point, and Hinrich at the 2? Thats just stupid.

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wiping my eyes, craw playing d and taking it hard to the hole?

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here comes ZaZa the equalizer..

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I guess the new Zaza still has to fulfill his daily quote of one moving screen per game, though.

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So Jamal is playing PG while Kirk plays SG?

Whats up with all these turnovers?

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LOW BB IQ FOR ATLANTA..NOT PLAYING SMART AT ALL. NINE TO’S ALREADY??????WTF????????????????????????????????

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Jamal Crawford, what are you doing?

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Jamal started off this game well…

Since then, he’s been dominating the ball and making one bad mistake after another.

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I wonder if Horford will play at all in the second quarter. Right now the game is close, so there’s not a huge reason to put him in with 2 fouls, but I’m mainly curious just to see if L.D. is going to stick with that rule permanently. I feel like that rule could really hurt us in the playoffs. So far this season, the only guy who has been immune to that rule is Joe Johnson.

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Josh Powell is awful put in Jason Collins

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If I couldn’t see the score, I would swear we were losing the way Atl is playing.

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Wow. Horford is back in, I guess the 2-foul rule is only situational now. Good job, L.D.

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thats new..

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KH!! Its good…………

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WHY IS JAMAL RUNNING THE POINT WHERE IS TEAGUE LD I HATE YOU

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Yeah Jamal is not a point. Just stop it

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I don’t like this look.

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Come on LD, give Kirk more minutes!!

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I think I’ve heard Brandon Roy’s name one time tonight. That’s a good thing, but it’s sad that injuries may have made him a shell of his former self.

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with one wild pass, he makes a spectacular one.

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that f’ing ginger ref, why wait if the ball goes in to call a foul.

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Jamal got a gift with that one…

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Make that 10. I like our defense though

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You have to finish that one Josh….

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J.Smith walked…

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I’m surprised JJ or Jamal dont take the technicals. With the way they have missed them, I’m glad LD goes to Marvin though.

Josh travelled right there. he needs to give the ball up sometimes….

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he missed about three shots in the same seconds and the box score won’t look good but good play.

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lmao

portland getting frustrated…

they seem to think the refs are f’n with them

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Even without Teague and Hinrich in the game, our defensive intensity has picked up.

Was Bibby slowing us down that bad? Or maybe the trade lit a fire under the rest of the Hawks to step up there defense.

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Amazing how active and aggressive this whole team has looked both in this game as well as the GSW game.

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Who is this team, and what are they doing in Hawks uniforms?

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Marvin Williams is good for nothing…

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Hawks have made a lot of bad passes tonight. Playing with good energy, so can’t be because they’re tired.

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Maybe the threat of having Teague and Hinrich take minutes from him will make Jamal play better.

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“LOL @ us being the 5th best FT shooting team in the NBA, yet, we don’t take advantage of that because we’re probably a bottom 5 team in getting to the FT line.”

Haha real talk. I was thinking the same thing.

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Man, we’re out rebounding them like 2 to 1

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I think it’s official…

Hinrich back in. Teague never returned.

LD’s a bum man.

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doris stfu.

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now thats the josh I like to see when he does that whose at point means little

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Time to close out this quarter. Don’t let Portland back in this.

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we need to run these drags out the building,

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It seems like we are really getting out and running more now that we don’t have Bibby on the floor. I really like it when we get out and run.

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Joe out there looking like a 4th option. lol!

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Another good half defensively.

Solid on the boards, but could’ve been better that last minute and half or so – but still, no complaints there.

I’m already pretty upset about Teague, and even though nobody knows anything for sure as to how LD will use his gaurds, I can already see Teague buried right back there on the bench.

If that does happen, I’m be pretty upset, because the kid has upside, and he’s definitely a solid defender.

LD man, we’ll have problems. We don’t have depth as it is, so you better play the guys you have whom are capable.

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Man, sometimes I like LD and sometimes I don’t. I think we can overlook mistakes when we’re winning, but when the skids come, they become glaring

But overall – how can i complain Up 12 at the half on the road on a very good team

I do think LD may just slip Hinrich in Bibby’s spot and let the vets have the day. Just seems like his way. Teague sure matches this teams athletic makeup however.

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“Joe out there looking like a 4th option. lol!”

The Hawks’ offense is so much better when it’s less Joe-centric, isn’t it?

I don’t even think he’s playing bad, but not being the focal point of everything on offense suits his game so much better.

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Teague is better than Hinrich defensively. Hinrich gives up just as much as he gets but he can hit shots, that is the great equalizer. LD is full of shi+ until Teague starts to put points on the board he will not get playing time. He is the best guard defensively though. I hope he asks for a trade so he can go somewhere where he will get playing time.

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i agree, stfu doris

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Can’t believe no Teague…why? This game has been good so far, and I can’t believe the depth the Blazers have it’s absolutely crazy seeing G. Wallace and B. Roy on the bench 2 All-Star type players.

No ego’s in Portland thats for sure.

Teague better start the 2nd half and get a good amount of minutes LD don’t start letting us down after the GS game you bum…

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Troy Murphy has been bought out and is going to Boston or Miami. I hope it’s Boston. Miami is beatable in large part because they have no quality players outside their big 2 and a half and Mike Miller. I’d rather they didn’t get a guy like Murphy who can crash the boards and stretch the floor all in one.

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Zaza does deserve more minutes in the second half and its two halves Teague may play more minutes in the second half . LD just didnt want to get Miller going with the Postups and it worked.

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Walker is a player played with beasley at k state.

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I have heard players in the past say defense is infectious, and after watching even Jamal and Josh Powell make good defensive plays in that first half, I kinda see what they mean.

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Najeh – Agreed about Troy M. With Udonis coming back for the playoffs, he and Murphy would transform the Heat in a bad way for us.

Maybe Murphy will find a desire to play for the TWolves or something.

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Teague’s quickness can make for some interesting matchups on both ends of the floor for the other squad. I like Teague for the X factor he brings with his speed

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I don’t know if ESPN has a contract with Lupe Fiasco or what, but it’s been all Lupe songs playing over their highlight packages for the last two weeks.

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And Teague just looks like the type PG you would put on the floor with JJ, Josh, Al, and Marvin. Young, quick and athletic. He just fits.

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The key to beating the heat is to drive the ball and take it to them strong once those fouls start to pile up Lebron ,Wade and Bosh stop playing defense altogether its amazing how a few fouls sucks the life and showboating out of them

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Good start to the half. Get the ball inside on offense, and good man to man defense at all five positions.

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@terrell not for us they dont

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“Every star in the league goes ISO . . but as soon as JJ does it, all heck breaks loose.”

All those other stars are quick enough to get to the free throw line.

Anyway, I wasn’t dissing Joe. Just pointing out that the offense functions better when he’s not the beginning and end of what the Hawks do offensively.

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horford is so foul prone.

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Teague with the floater. Nice…

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cmon josh varejo smith hold your ground

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Josh got rob twice by the refs… should have been a foul on his shot attempt and that was a charge on LaMarcus.

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Teague more than held his own against Andre Miller trying to back him down…

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These boys came to play. Love this defense

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teague playing phenomenal

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Keep playin him Drew…

he can play with the big boys…

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Najeh,

Teague doesn’t weight much but I think he’s probably stronger than he looks. Dude arms looks huge…

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Glad the Hawks have played well (so far) in front of these anti-Atlanta ESPN announcers . . .

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runnin and gunnin

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Melvin, Najeh – Teague showed out on strength at the combine predraft, and he’s only gotten stronger. Strength is not his problem.

Actually Teague said leg strength was a problem and he’s worked on it – getting into defensive stance

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Teague just fits with his and this teams athleticism. No it doesnt’ translate in the playoffs, but the Suns came within a boxout of winning the West last season with this type team

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Wow, lettin’ Teague run with the 1st team awhile

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Teague is a pest, man.

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Hawks are cooking with fresh grease….

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O M G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Excellent basketball. Do it with defense and rebounding.

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Teague got pushed from behind man, I swear when they give this kid the slightest respect he’ll get to the line 6-8 times a game.

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Hawks have been a little lucky with Blazers missing open shots on their last few possessions, but the Blazers are a team that functions best when Aldridge is getting post ups and the swingmen and guards are dribble penetrating. The Hawks have done an amazing job containing dribble penetration and have defended Aldridge well. So far, they are passing this test with flying colors.

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I CAN’T BREATH….. THEY SUFFOCATING ME AND THE BLAZER!!!!!

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One thing I’m loving,

The PG gets the ball before half-court…ALOT more within the past few games.

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Teague’s stat line may not look good, but the guy belongs. 2-2-1 stat line, but if you see the game, you know he’s a factor

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O M F G!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who Is This Team?!?!?!?!?

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This may be the best game I’ve ever seen any Atlanta Hawks team play up to this point.

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our best move was getting rid of bibby

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I can’t believe we’re doing this against Aldridge, Roy, Wallace, Miller, and Rudy – Big Wow!

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I can’t agree with this move…he put JC isntead of Kirk. I’d let Teague play this one on man……

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SINCE DAY ONE I BEEN SAYING START TEAGUE. HE PUSHES THE PACE & CAN PLAY PERIMETER D IT’S A WIN WIN.

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lmaoooo josh was too funny

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That was a bad call on Josh. Hell, he was in full flop mode before him and Andre even contacted each other lol.

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Kirk and Teague in at the same time…anyone?

I’d love to see that one…for atleast like 4 minutes. With JJ playing the 3.

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I am loving the total team effort on defense and the ball sharing on offense. If we can go 7 out of our next 10. We can really focus on getting Teague ready for the playoffs.

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Gotta close this out. We have seen them with big leads in the 3rd lose them before the end of the game. Let’s see what these new look Hawks can do.

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Man Kirk sound like he got A LOT of leadership qualities. Good move Sund!

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Good D by Hinrich. Better O by Andre Miller.

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I dont like the way we are ending this quarter

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New Term WB(With Bibby) AB(After Bibby)….We are now (AB)

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Crawford at the point. There goes the big lead.

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How was that not an offensive foul on Miller for lowering the shoulder on Hinrich????

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I’d also like to see Al and ZaZa together on the court now also

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Zaza continues to give the Hawks solid minutes. Good D on Aldridge a couple of possessions ago.

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give the starters a 5 min rest and HOPE our bench can play decent

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10 boards for Zaza is the most since he had 11 in the season opener.

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When’s the last time every member of the starting unit had a steal? 3 for Smoove, 2 for Joe and Marvin, 1 for Teague and Al. I wonder if these low opponent-point totals are gonna become a habit.

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If only Josh KNEW he is a GREAT passer on that last shot, drive in man, the D will COLLAPSE hard on you because they respect you, that will create a wide open shot or drive for someone else.

If Josh had a high IQ he would be one of the best in the game right now.

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uh oh

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Im not convinced on Zaza. Just smoke and mirrors. I’m also not fully convinced with Teague either.

And wtf…Am I hearing “Lets go Blazers”??

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As far as this game goes, I think this is the potential this team can reach. Great D leading to turnovers and run-outs, if not that post-up our multiple oversized players or run motion, sprinkle a little ISO here and there. Why not go to ECF?

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Zaza with the good outlet pass again. Second time in this game.

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Where is horford, drew is running josh ragged.

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Jae Evolution

February 28th, 2011
12:35 am

If Josh had a high IQ he would be one of the best in the game right now.

Co-sign that

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4 fouls each on Smoove and Horford now.

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Portland has 55 points….in the 4th quarter. Usually by halftime our opponets are in the 50s. A sign of things to come?

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just stupid.. or dont understand the scheme..

3 bombs have been there all night. luckily Blazers have missed.

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lol kirk dishing to zaza and he didnt know what to do

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hahahahaha lol what the hell man

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Gotta love Zaza’s effort tonight.

Note to LD, when you hold guys accountable, they just might respond.

Don’t be afraid to put a guy on the bench every now and then.

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Don’t forget getting rid of Mo, which opened up more minutes for Damien.

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When will Armstrong get more playing time?

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Respect the captain . . #2

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Josh down there workin.

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Blazers have stepped up their defensive intensity. 14 points is not an insurmountable lead with 3:45 left. Hawks gotta keep their foot on their throats.

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Well….back to back concludes tomorrow in Denver…. I’m sure after all the celebrating and self-promotion on the plane tonight it will feel like the Hawks are playing on Mount Everest.

Bring the oxygen.

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Getting a little tight here…

At least compared to the type of lead we’ve been working with all night.

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smh…wasnt it just a 20 point lead 2 min ago

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WtF?

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Uh oh

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Wow these refs are being controlled by Blazer fans…

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Gotta post up Smoove. Get back to the bread and butter of running the offense through the post.

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Get the ball down to Al or Josh.

Quit letting Crawford/JJ hold onto that ball till there’s 10 seconds left on the shotclock. They basically trap themselves when they do that. The double ends up coming, and then they make errand passes.

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So what will the dumbest team in the NBA do now? Lead down to 10. Think they’ll run clock? Ha! Egos won’t permit it.

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Hinrich and Jamaal cannot play together!!

Jamaal thinks he is the Point and Drew lets hims think that.

But to his credit,Hinrich is not letting Jamaal have his way..

Thats good..I hope Teague is watching and does the same “thang”!!

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lmao

how bout some Teague drew?

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acting jobbbbb

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lol what a joke

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Idiots.

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LD doesn’t “trust” Teague to close out games. He only trust vets. Weird

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lamoooooooooo these refs

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jamal hadnt even brought the ball up in like 5 minutes what games are you guys watching ? Its been all Joe and Hinrich for quite a few minutes until that last possession

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These refs are jokes being played like fiddles by the Blazers . . .

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We are officially in trouble

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Awesome box-out by Smith!

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KIRK!!!!

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What a HUGE play by Captain Kirk!

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Whew! Still not out of the woods yet. Kirk – not a smart play

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first call weve gotten in 7 minutes

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Smoove needs to teach Joe a thing or two about getting rid of the ball when he gets double teamed. Smoove is probably better at that than any other aspect of his offensive game. Joe is flat out awful at it.

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smh LD. I dont like the Kirk/Jamal back court. I thought they played better with Marvin and Teague out there but LD forgot he had them on the bench and watched as the lead dwindled. LD smdh just smdh

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Haven’t had a 50-point blowout loss in a couple of weeks.

Denver?

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It’s because they started running their 2 minute “keep away” offense with about 6 minutes left in the game…

They got away from the ball movement, and just let JJ/Jamal hold the rock till the shot clock came winding down.

The Blazers would trap, our gaurds would be stuck, and we’d end up with terrible buzzer beating shots or errand turnovers.

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The Hawks spacing when they started to double was horrible. All somebody has to do is go to the ball, and when they get the ball, go hard toward the rim. But people are standing stilll waiting on the ball.

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Its back to back and we get Ty Lawson at altitude tomorrow night Im sure teague will get his fill of lawson and Felton cmon guys think further then just tonight

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Dumb foul by Smoove in an otherwise very good defensive game…

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“Its back to back and we get Ty Lawson at altitude tomorrow night”

Not only will they have to deal with the altitude, but it will probably be 3 AM Mountain Time by the time they get to sleep. Tomorrow’s game is not going to be easy.

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We stink. May win, but we stink at times

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Teague can handle Ty if LD will let him. He’s the only guy we have that can

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LOL @ Jamal

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Hit a shot Josh

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…..just cant get a blowout against a good and decent team….

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Woody Jr.

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Finally, that ish should’ve ended a long time ago with our bench cleared…

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The Difference…. 2 games, 2 teams average 82 points….No Bibby

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Bset road record thru this many games in franchise history? Damn!

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Defense looks good without Bibby. Why LD continued to start Bibby is beyond me even more now.

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Zaza earned his check tonight for once. Tell him he might get traded again.

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