Atlanta Hawks at Warriors: The new guys, plus Rick Sund

San Francisco–Caught up with the Hawks here this morning (tip: never, ever drive in this city) before heading to Oaktown. Here are some quick notes, followed by a Rick Sund Q and A,. . .

  • L.D. said Teague will start again tonight along with J.J., Marvin, Josh and Al. Hinrich will play, too. Hinrich and Armstrong met the team here last night. Drew said they put some tape down in the ballroom at the hotel and gave the players a crash course on the team’s concepts.
  • Drew expects Hinrich and Teague to push the Hawks to play faster: “We definitely have got to get the ball in to both guys’ hands. I thought Jeff did a good job in Phoenix of keeping the pressure on the defense and pushing it. Kirk has the same ability. He’s not as fast as Jeff but he still pushes the ball at a pace that forces other guys to keep up.”
  • Based on his initial impressions of Atlanta’s offense, Hinrich likes what he sees: “We have good players. Just put them in the right positions and play together, and we will be all right. I think the stuff we are going to do fits me and fits our team. The ball moves a lot. We’ve got good players who command double teams. It’s a team system and I’m excited to be a part of it.”
  • Drew on Armstrong: “I want a physicality when he’s on the floor. I want defensive rebounding. I want him to be athletic when he’s on the floor.”
  • Armstrong: “I just have to be aggressive. I can definitely help the team out with that. Play solid defense, talk, get up and be aggressive and hit the boards. Try to play my game and don’t do anything out of character.”
  • Both players said they are happy to leave a loser and join a playoff squad.

Now on to the interview with Sund:

Q. Before the deadline, you said you would only make trades that improve the team and wouldn’t make any lateral moves. In your view, how did this trade make the team better?

“Larry wanted to upgrade the point guard position, particularly defensively, and still try to be able to maintain the shooting that we had with Bibby’s presence out there. We looked at this deal and thought it made some sense. It was tough to let Jordan go in particular. I don’t mind so much the draft pick but we really like Jordan. He’s got a huge upside. It was difficult to get him minutes this year. He’s going to have a fine career. But at the end of the day, like with most teams in transition, you have got to give up a draft pick and/or young player to whet their appetite. So that’s what we did.”

Q. By trading Jordan and your first-round pick in 2011, does it signal a win-now approach as opposed to developing players for the future?

“We also have a pretty young team. We’ve got three starters that started opening night at 24. You still have Jeff in a backup capacity, where he should be a senior in college. He’s young. Then you’ve got a couple of players that are in their prime. Joe is in his prime, and so is Jamal and certainly Hinrich is in his prime. You look at the two teams in the championship last year in final game, of the 10 starters nine where in their 30s.”

Q. How much did uncertainty of labor situation affect your approach to making deals?

“Not a lot because nobody knows what the rules are going to be. To be very honest with you I was really surprised there were as many trades as there were. Somebody mentioned that since the season started there have been 24 trades of various sorts that you would consider semi-significant. You have the big trades like Carmelo; Deron was a huge trade. And there there were other semi-significant trades. That seems like a lot compared to other years. And I thought there wasn’t going to be a lot of trades.”

Q. Now that the smoke has cleared, how do you think your team stacks up in the East?

“We have to see it out. All year we have been basically playing for the fifth, fourth and third hole. And of those three teams, everybody goes through their highs and lows. We have had some highs–January in particular was a good month–and now we are in a slump. Miami had some slumps and then they went on a huge streak, and then they went back to a slump. Chicago seems to be like us last year. They are great at home and they are .500 on the road and so they are sort of where we were at this point last year going forward. You’ve got Boston who have an NBA championship and has three players who are headed to the Hall of Fame. Miami has got two players that have been battling for MVP of the league and three players who have made the All-Pro. Orlando has an MVP candidate this year in Dwight. And you have Chicago who has an MVP this year in Derrick Rose. And then you have Atlanta that has two players that made the All-Star team. I thought it was ironic in LA they interviewed Kobe and he said, ‘Well, I feel like I am playing Boston, Miami and Atlanta [because nine East All-Stars are from those teams]. Also the Knicks are going to be no picnic if you have to play them and Philly can surprise you. It’s up to the players now, I think, on all of the teams. March and April are the home stretch and it’s up to the players and how they are going to respond to it and how they are going to respond in the playoffs. It’s a challenge for us, certainly. It’s as challenge and an opportunity at the same time.”

Deep thoughts

At last check, the (completely unscientific) blog poll asking whether this trade was good or bad for the Hawks was running about 50-50. I haven’t looked at all of your 1,600 or so comments from the last couple of days (thanks much for reading, blog people) but I think I can take a decent stab at the reasoning of the differing perspectives.

I’m guessing most in the “good” camp like the trade because they think the team is better now. Hinrich is a better player than Bibby. He’s a better defender, comparable shooter and should be able to diversify the offense by running pick-and-rolls. JC2 could become a good player but he’s not part of the plans now so off he goes.

I’m guessing most of those in the “bad” camp don’t like the trade because, even if it makes the team better now, it doesn’t improve the Hawks enough to give them a good chance at beating the elite teams in the playoffs. So why make a deal like this while sending away a young player and a pick, sacrificing the future while doubling down on this “core” group that may not take the Hawks where they want to go?

I think the views in both camps are reasonable. I also know that we can’t see the future. The Hawks should be better with Hinrich instead of Bibby, both from tangible and intangible standpoints. I understand if you don’t believe they will be good enough, but let’s see what happens.

Sund said declined to comment on trade scenarios that didn’t happen, including whether he tried to get in on any of the major deals by dangling any players from Atlanta’s “core” group. From what I’m hearing the Hawks did try to get in on some of those discussions but didn’t get very far.

If you are upset the Hawks couldn’t make a splashier deal then realize it takes assets like expiring contracts, productive players with reasonable contracts, young players with potential and draft picks. The Hawks don’t have much of any of those because of decisions made in the past, so those should be the focus of your ire if you don’t like this trade. I can’t speak accurately on what deals they may or may not have offered (or turned down) for their “core” players so it’s hard to evaluate those hypothetical scenarios.

In any event, the Hawks have 25 games against a tough schedule to figure out what they are about. From my perspective, at least, it should be interesting.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

796 comments Add your comment

prison mike

February 25th, 2011
11:23 pm

my goodness jamal is still in the game.

Rev in Tampa

February 25th, 2011
11:23 pm

Rufus1 – atdhe.fm/

O'Brien

February 25th, 2011
11:23 pm

Jamal is cold (missed his last 3 shots), and JJ is 1-6. What’s up with JJ? I thought he would have a big game tonight.

Meanwhile, as northcyde and vava will say, Jamal is usually in the middle of these runs the other team makes.

Dont you have to sacrifice Hinrich’s 3rd foul by putting him in?

Melvin

February 25th, 2011
11:23 pm

take Marvin out…

Abe

February 25th, 2011
11:23 pm

Josh is sitting bc he’s trying to bring the ball down court and shootn the 3!

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:24 pm

We were looking good with new looks on the floor…

With Teague/Hinrich…

We look like the usual with the usual on the floor…

slimjr

February 25th, 2011
11:24 pm

Joe makes over 200k per night avg 12-14 pts….Hawks letting em back with missed jump shots Marvina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Stop it DUCK….Go sit down Duck…………………..Man……………..

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:24 pm

if you’re not going to play w/ a PG in the game..

the ball should go into the post to Josh Smith each time down..

Najeh Davenpoop

February 25th, 2011
11:24 pm

Smoove has looked a lot more fluid in the post recently. Maybe partly a function of not going up against many great post defenders, but he’s made some moves in the last couple of weeks that I haven’t seen from him before.

Of course, the counter point to that is that he needs to spend more time there.

Tremaine

February 25th, 2011
11:24 pm

I like LD not panicking and putting Hinrich back in. He did pick up those two foul quick.

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:24 pm

There you go Teague.

prison mike

February 25th, 2011
11:24 pm

teague coming back, welcome teagbag.

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:25 pm

Nique just happy to see Josh get flattened.

Melvin

February 25th, 2011
11:25 pm

Josh just won an Oscar….lol

Najeh Davenpoop

February 25th, 2011
11:25 pm

Nice flop Smoove.

lewis

February 25th, 2011
11:26 pm

So…how do you keep Jamal in when Monta singlehandedly goes on a 10-0 run

Najeh Davenpoop

February 25th, 2011
11:26 pm

The Teague Party comes back in and has a nice contest on Ellis. Goodbye, run.

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:26 pm

That was a nice look.

O'Brien

February 25th, 2011
11:26 pm

Marvin: 1-7 against Phoenix, 2-6 tonight.

And JJ is struggling too. We need JJ to get going, because I dont want to rely on Jamal more than we have to

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 25th, 2011
11:26 pm

Marvin ‘Froed out aint it

Rufus1

February 25th, 2011
11:27 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

February 25th, 2011
11:27 pm

Joe too used to Bibby camping out on the 3 point line. “A point guard cutting to the hoop? WTF is that”

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:27 pm

Joe that isnt Bibby.. Teague going to the rim on your post up..

ATL FAN

February 25th, 2011
11:27 pm

Man, Hawks are actually enjoying playing basketball now

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:27 pm

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:28 pm

There ya go Teague……

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 25th, 2011
11:28 pm

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 25th, 2011
11:28 pm

prison mike

February 25th, 2011
11:28 pm

teague is no acie lawless.

Rev in Tampa

February 25th, 2011
11:28 pm

Marvin seems more active tonight than usual

slimjr

February 25th, 2011
11:28 pm

Come on Marvin grow some Balls….Man…………..

Melvin

February 25th, 2011
11:28 pm

LD showing some confidence playing Teague extended mins in this first half…

prison mike

February 25th, 2011
11:28 pm

they just robbed j money a sportscenter highlight.

AG

February 25th, 2011
11:29 pm

Ellis has not scored since Teague checking him. LD, Crawford cooled off when he had to run the point.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 25th, 2011
11:29 pm

I hate when fast breaks get called off because of 24 second violations. That’s something the NBA has to get fixed somehow.

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:29 pm

Good stuff Hawks.

You seem energized.

And just seeing some new looks has me far more excited than I was prior to the trade.

I’ve been wanted to see Teague…for like 1 season and a half now.

Pair that with two more guys who can defend their positions in Damien and Hinrich, and I’m loving it compared to what we had.

Freshfromatl

February 25th, 2011
11:29 pm

How long have Woodson and LD held this team back by starting Bibby?? It’s obvious that Teague should have been starting a loooonnnnggg time ago!

Jae Evolution

February 25th, 2011
11:30 pm

Is Armstrong going to see any minutes tonight?

superiorblogman

February 25th, 2011
11:30 pm

Thanks for Jeff Teague for slowing down Monta before he took the lead by himself with Jamal on him, LMAO. Maybe that will by him a few more minutes before LD hides him like Bin Laden on the bench for nothing

AG

February 25th, 2011
11:30 pm

Good observation, our point guard going to open spot for layup

Tremaine

February 25th, 2011
11:30 pm

“The Teague Party”, I can dig it lmao!

Najeh Davenpoop

February 25th, 2011
11:31 pm

I hope all this off-the-ball cutting to the basket continues with Bibby out of the picture though. Hinrich has moved off the ball a lot in this game, and we’ve already seen Teague cut to the hoop and Marvin score off a cut.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 25th, 2011
11:31 pm

Haahahaahahahahahahaha

Booo!

February 25th, 2011
11:31 pm

Teague doin’ work!

Nique's Revenge

February 25th, 2011
11:32 pm

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WTF DUCK

AG

February 25th, 2011
11:32 pm

lol marvin!!!!!!!!

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 25th, 2011
11:32 pm

quack attack

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:32 pm

Marvin showing ball again on his layups..

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:32 pm

Typical Duck.

Lose the ball by yourself.

And that’s another steal.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 25th, 2011
11:32 pm

Marvin blocked the sh-t out of himself on that drive.