Atlanta Hawks at Warriors: The new guys, plus Rick Sund

San Francisco–Caught up with the Hawks here this morning (tip: never, ever drive in this city) before heading to Oaktown. Here are some quick notes, followed by a Rick Sund Q and A,. . .

  • L.D. said Teague will start again tonight along with J.J., Marvin, Josh and Al. Hinrich will play, too. Hinrich and Armstrong met the team here last night. Drew said they put some tape down in the ballroom at the hotel and gave the players a crash course on the team’s concepts.
  • Drew expects Hinrich and Teague to push the Hawks to play faster: “We definitely have got to get the ball in to both guys’ hands. I thought Jeff did a good job in Phoenix of keeping the pressure on the defense and pushing it. Kirk has the same ability. He’s not as fast as Jeff but he still pushes the ball at a pace that forces other guys to keep up.”
  • Based on his initial impressions of Atlanta’s offense, Hinrich likes what he sees: “We have good players. Just put them in the right positions and play together, and we will be all right. I think the stuff we are going to do fits me and fits our team. The ball moves a lot. We’ve got good players who command double teams. It’s a team system and I’m excited to be a part of it.”
  • Drew on Armstrong: “I want a physicality when he’s on the floor. I want defensive rebounding. I want him to be athletic when he’s on the floor.”
  • Armstrong: “I just have to be aggressive. I can definitely help the team out with that. Play solid defense, talk, get up and be aggressive and hit the boards. Try to play my game and don’t do anything out of character.”
  • Both players said they are happy to leave a loser and join a playoff squad.

Now on to the interview with Sund:

Q. Before the deadline, you said you would only make trades that improve the team and wouldn’t make any lateral moves. In your view, how did this trade make the team better?

“Larry wanted to upgrade the point guard position, particularly defensively, and still try to be able to maintain the shooting that we had with Bibby’s presence out there. We looked at this deal and thought it made some sense. It was tough to let Jordan go in particular. I don’t mind so much the draft pick but we really like Jordan. He’s got a huge upside. It was difficult to get him minutes this year. He’s going to have a fine career. But at the end of the day, like with most teams in transition, you have got to give up a draft pick and/or young player to whet their appetite. So that’s what we did.”

Q. By trading Jordan and your first-round pick in 2011, does it signal a win-now approach as opposed to developing players for the future?

“We also have a pretty young team. We’ve got three starters that started opening night at 24. You still have Jeff in a backup capacity, where he should be a senior in college. He’s young. Then you’ve got a couple of players that are in their prime. Joe is in his prime, and so is Jamal and certainly Hinrich is in his prime. You look at the two teams in the championship last year in final game, of the 10 starters nine where in their 30s.”

Q. How much did uncertainty of labor situation affect your approach to making deals?

“Not a lot because nobody knows what the rules are going to be. To be very honest with you I was really surprised there were as many trades as there were. Somebody mentioned that since the season started there have been 24 trades of various sorts that you would consider semi-significant. You have the big trades like Carmelo; Deron was a huge trade. And there there were other semi-significant trades. That seems like a lot compared to other years. And I thought there wasn’t going to be a lot of trades.”

Q. Now that the smoke has cleared, how do you think your team stacks up in the East?

“We have to see it out. All year we have been basically playing for the fifth, fourth and third hole. And of those three teams, everybody goes through their highs and lows. We have had some highs–January in particular was a good month–and now we are in a slump. Miami had some slumps and then they went on a huge streak, and then they went back to a slump. Chicago seems to be like us last year. They are great at home and they are .500 on the road and so they are sort of where we were at this point last year going forward. You’ve got Boston who have an NBA championship and has three players who are headed to the Hall of Fame. Miami has got two players that have been battling for MVP of the league and three players who have made the All-Pro. Orlando has an MVP candidate this year in Dwight. And you have Chicago who has an MVP this year in Derrick Rose. And then you have Atlanta that has two players that made the All-Star team. I thought it was ironic in LA they interviewed Kobe and he said, ‘Well, I feel like I am playing Boston, Miami and Atlanta [because nine East All-Stars are from those teams]. Also the Knicks are going to be no picnic if you have to play them and Philly can surprise you. It’s up to the players now, I think, on all of the teams. March and April are the home stretch and it’s up to the players and how they are going to respond to it and how they are going to respond in the playoffs. It’s a challenge for us, certainly. It’s as challenge and an opportunity at the same time.”

Deep thoughts

At last check, the (completely unscientific) blog poll asking whether this trade was good or bad for the Hawks was running about 50-50. I haven’t looked at all of your 1,600 or so comments from the last couple of days (thanks much for reading, blog people) but I think I can take a decent stab at the reasoning of the differing perspectives.

I’m guessing most in the “good” camp like the trade because they think the team is better now. Hinrich is a better player than Bibby. He’s a better defender, comparable shooter and should be able to diversify the offense by running pick-and-rolls. JC2 could become a good player but he’s not part of the plans now so off he goes.

I’m guessing most of those in the “bad” camp don’t like the trade because, even if it makes the team better now, it doesn’t improve the Hawks enough to give them a good chance at beating the elite teams in the playoffs. So why make a deal like this while sending away a young player and a pick, sacrificing the future while doubling down on this “core” group that may not take the Hawks where they want to go?

I think the views in both camps are reasonable. I also know that we can’t see the future. The Hawks should be better with Hinrich instead of Bibby, both from tangible and intangible standpoints. I understand if you don’t believe they will be good enough, but let’s see what happens.

Sund said declined to comment on trade scenarios that didn’t happen, including whether he tried to get in on any of the major deals by dangling any players from Atlanta’s “core” group. From what I’m hearing the Hawks did try to get in on some of those discussions but didn’t get very far.

If you are upset the Hawks couldn’t make a splashier deal then realize it takes assets like expiring contracts, productive players with reasonable contracts, young players with potential and draft picks. The Hawks don’t have much of any of those because of decisions made in the past, so those should be the focus of your ire if you don’t like this trade. I can’t speak accurately on what deals they may or may not have offered (or turned down) for their “core” players so it’s hard to evaluate those hypothetical scenarios.

In any event, the Hawks have 25 games against a tough schedule to figure out what they are about. From my perspective, at least, it should be interesting.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

796 comments Add your comment

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:03 pm

lets go Jeff.

Booo!

February 25th, 2011
11:03 pm

Wow, LD actually making the right lineup changes! We are balanced for once!

ATL FAN

February 25th, 2011
11:03 pm

Im loving Sund’s trade right now. Took away two of our biggest problems that slowed our offense down, Bibby and Mo, and gave us this tough new PG that has immediately changed our offense, and it’s his first game.

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:03 pm

give the f-in ball up bigs!!!

O'Brien

February 25th, 2011
11:04 pm

Does Hinrich get the 2 foul rule too?

prison mike

February 25th, 2011
11:04 pm

holding down the whorriors to 17 at their gym, not too shabby.

Freshfromatl

February 25th, 2011
11:04 pm

OMG! Hawks look like a new team.

SteveW

February 25th, 2011
11:04 pm

Good move putting Teague back in. With 2 Quality PG’s, and Teagues awesome speed coupled with Hinrichs defensive pressue, it makes it very hard on an opposing PG. We got a good combination if Ld doesn’t blow it. Don’t put Jamal at the 1!!!! No need to.

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:05 pm

Good quarter.

I know its the Warriors, but I like what I saw.

I think Drew should play it just as he did. Even once Hinrich gets acclimated, keep him coming off the bench with Crawford.

That punch off the bench makes our bench seem more formidable.

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 25th, 2011
11:05 pm

looks good so far

superiorblogman

February 25th, 2011
11:05 pm

WTF? Teague will not run a pick and roll correctly for nothing but he plays solid D. He has not given up a point. Hinrich has given up 4 pts, but he has 3.

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:05 pm

Mac..

co-sign your 11:01 brother

cp

February 25th, 2011
11:05 pm

I like the way Teague is harassing Curry.

ATL FAN

February 25th, 2011
11:05 pm

No longer have to play Joe or Jamal at Point, which takes away the ISO offense, and actually gives us a chance to work on the motion offense. The only part where Im not sure about is if LD will keep this lineup in close late game situations, or if he’ll revert back to ISO offense.

Booo!

February 25th, 2011
11:05 pm

Josh Powell Sighting!?

SteveW

February 25th, 2011
11:05 pm

WE do in fact look like a new team. Athletic, not slow and run down.

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:06 pm

Jeff picks up his dribble too soon

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:06 pm

then never gets it back after he passes..

Tremaine

February 25th, 2011
11:06 pm

When Teague get in the weight room, develop his jumper, and learns how to say no to his teammates he is going to be a problem.

Nique's Revenge

February 25th, 2011
11:08 pm

jamal so happy that flabby bibby is goneeeee

ATL FAN

February 25th, 2011
11:08 pm

LD playing Wilkins now too!! Doing a good job balancing the line up tonight

IM_BACK

February 25th, 2011
11:08 pm

Freshfromatl

February 25th, 2011
11:08 pm

prison mike

February 25th, 2011
11:08 pm

teagues limp looks like marvins walk.

Booo!

February 25th, 2011
11:09 pm

PLZ…Teage is already a pain for other teams to guard. Give him a few more games and Sund will look like a Genuis.

northcyde

February 25th, 2011
11:09 pm

It’s just too bad that Teague didn’t ( couldn’t ) play with this kind of energy with the 2nd unit throughout the year. But if playing him with the starters for the first 6 minutes of each half, is what is going to get him to play decent, then that may be the way to go. I think Najeh or somebody have been saying that all along.

We’ll see if that’s the case, once Hinrich becomes the starter.

AG

February 25th, 2011
11:09 pm

Jamal playing 2. No more point guard. Please walk it off Jeff. No please, NOT MARVIN

northcyde

February 25th, 2011
11:09 pm

Damn . . and as soon as I type that . .

(( calling Flip Murray ))

Freshfromatl

February 25th, 2011
11:09 pm

He don’t look like he’s hurt too bad

ATL FAN

February 25th, 2011
11:10 pm

Great movement by the Hawks… a joy to watch for once

Melvin

February 25th, 2011
11:10 pm

Teague has to learn to protect the ball by using his shoulders when driving to the lane..

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:10 pm

lol @ Marvin playing defense while on offense..

Abe

February 25th, 2011
11:10 pm

I have not seen a Hawk guard move and move the ball like this since Doc Rivers!

Tremaine

February 25th, 2011
11:10 pm

Marvin Williams get the hell out the way.

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 25th, 2011
11:10 pm

nah@prison mike

…you’re giving too much credit to Marvin.

Teague’s limp looked like a normal guy who injured his ankle.

Marvin’s walk is that of an 84 year old great grand mother.

prison mike

February 25th, 2011
11:11 pm

could be the same ankle that bothered him earlier in the season.

ATL FAN

February 25th, 2011
11:11 pm

SteveW

February 25th, 2011
11:11 pm

LD your backsliding man…Jamal don’t have to play the 1

Melvin

February 25th, 2011
11:11 pm

bigdave,

I saw Marvin getting in the passing lane on offense as well…lol

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:12 pm

Mo Evans doesnt give you that people.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 25th, 2011
11:12 pm

I’m not gonna crown their asses after one quarter. We have seen them come out like this and then melt down in the 2nd half.

I will say this though — it is really nice to have point guards who can move. Hinrich may not be a NUCLEAR ARM but he is pretty damn good, and I love his defensive effort.

Booo!

February 25th, 2011
11:12 pm

What happend to teague?

SteveW

February 25th, 2011
11:12 pm

Like that Amundson, wish the Hawks had him

prison mike

February 25th, 2011
11:12 pm

release the hinrich.

...

February 25th, 2011
11:12 pm

bigdave since your watching it online please stop blogging about stuff thats 5 minutes late…

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 25th, 2011
11:13 pm

Damien knew his playing time was gonna increase….he came out with wrestler’s wrist gear.

ATL FAN

February 25th, 2011
11:13 pm

WTF how many offensive boards does Horford have so far??

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:13 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

February 25th, 2011
11:12 pm
I’m not gonna crown their asses after one quarter. We have seen them come out like this and then melt down in the 2nd half.

I will say this though — it is really nice to have point guards who can move. Hinrich may not be a NUCLEAR ARM but he is pretty damn good, and I love his defensive effort.

Co-sign

Melvin

February 25th, 2011
11:14 pm

This Udoh kid looks pretty good….

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 25th, 2011
11:14 pm

I hope Armstrong takes Zaza’s minutes