San Francisco–Caught up with the Hawks here this morning (tip: never, ever drive in this city) before heading to Oaktown. Here are some quick notes, followed by a Rick Sund Q and A,. . .
Now on to the interview with Sund:
Q. Before the deadline, you said you would only make trades that improve the team and wouldn’t make any lateral moves. In your view, how did this trade make the team better?
“Larry wanted to upgrade the point guard position, particularly defensively, and still try to be able to maintain the shooting that we had with Bibby’s presence out there. We looked at this deal and thought it made some sense. It was tough to let Jordan go in particular. I don’t mind so much the draft pick but we really like Jordan. He’s got a huge upside. It was difficult to get him minutes this year. He’s going to have a fine career. But at the end of the day, like with most teams in transition, you have got to give up a draft pick and/or young player to whet their appetite. So that’s what we did.”
Q. By trading Jordan and your first-round pick in 2011, does it signal a win-now approach as opposed to developing players for the future?
“We also have a pretty young team. We’ve got three starters that started opening night at 24. You still have Jeff in a backup capacity, where he should be a senior in college. He’s young. Then you’ve got a couple of players that are in their prime. Joe is in his prime, and so is Jamal and certainly Hinrich is in his prime. You look at the two teams in the championship last year in final game, of the 10 starters nine where in their 30s.”
Q. How much did uncertainty of labor situation affect your approach to making deals?
“Not a lot because nobody knows what the rules are going to be. To be very honest with you I was really surprised there were as many trades as there were. Somebody mentioned that since the season started there have been 24 trades of various sorts that you would consider semi-significant. You have the big trades like Carmelo; Deron was a huge trade. And there there were other semi-significant trades. That seems like a lot compared to other years. And I thought there wasn’t going to be a lot of trades.”
Q. Now that the smoke has cleared, how do you think your team stacks up in the East?
“We have to see it out. All year we have been basically playing for the fifth, fourth and third hole. And of those three teams, everybody goes through their highs and lows. We have had some highs–January in particular was a good month–and now we are in a slump. Miami had some slumps and then they went on a huge streak, and then they went back to a slump. Chicago seems to be like us last year. They are great at home and they are .500 on the road and so they are sort of where we were at this point last year going forward. You’ve got Boston who have an NBA championship and has three players who are headed to the Hall of Fame. Miami has got two players that have been battling for MVP of the league and three players who have made the All-Pro. Orlando has an MVP candidate this year in Dwight. And you have Chicago who has an MVP this year in Derrick Rose. And then you have Atlanta that has two players that made the All-Star team. I thought it was ironic in LA they interviewed Kobe and he said, ‘Well, I feel like I am playing Boston, Miami and Atlanta [because nine East All-Stars are from those teams]. Also the Knicks are going to be no picnic if you have to play them and Philly can surprise you. It’s up to the players now, I think, on all of the teams. March and April are the home stretch and it’s up to the players and how they are going to respond to it and how they are going to respond in the playoffs. It’s a challenge for us, certainly. It’s as challenge and an opportunity at the same time.”
Deep thoughts
At last check, the (completely unscientific) blog poll asking whether this trade was good or bad for the Hawks was running about 50-50. I haven’t looked at all of your 1,600 or so comments from the last couple of days (thanks much for reading, blog people) but I think I can take a decent stab at the reasoning of the differing perspectives.
I’m guessing most in the “good” camp like the trade because they think the team is better now. Hinrich is a better player than Bibby. He’s a better defender, comparable shooter and should be able to diversify the offense by running pick-and-rolls. JC2 could become a good player but he’s not part of the plans now so off he goes.
I’m guessing most of those in the “bad” camp don’t like the trade because, even if it makes the team better now, it doesn’t improve the Hawks enough to give them a good chance at beating the elite teams in the playoffs. So why make a deal like this while sending away a young player and a pick, sacrificing the future while doubling down on this “core” group that may not take the Hawks where they want to go?
I think the views in both camps are reasonable. I also know that we can’t see the future. The Hawks should be better with Hinrich instead of Bibby, both from tangible and intangible standpoints. I understand if you don’t believe they will be good enough, but let’s see what happens.
Sund said declined to comment on trade scenarios that didn’t happen, including whether he tried to get in on any of the major deals by dangling any players from Atlanta’s “core” group. From what I’m hearing the Hawks did try to get in on some of those discussions but didn’t get very far.
If you are upset the Hawks couldn’t make a splashier deal then realize it takes assets like expiring contracts, productive players with reasonable contracts, young players with potential and draft picks. The Hawks don’t have much of any of those because of decisions made in the past, so those should be the focus of your ire if you don’t like this trade. I can’t speak accurately on what deals they may or may not have offered (or turned down) for their “core” players so it’s hard to evaluate those hypothetical scenarios.
In any event, the Hawks have 25 games against a tough schedule to figure out what they are about. From my perspective, at least, it should be interesting.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
796 comments Add your comment
SteveW
February 25th, 2011
10:44 pm
Blogman – In about 10 games when it’s apparent the Hawks made a good move, I hope you’ll be man enough to come on here and admit it. We could have traded for someone with purple skin and if he made the Hawks better, I’m all for it.
SteveW
February 25th, 2011
10:44 pm
Man, I hope Hinrich not’s hurt in 10 games…
prison mike
February 25th, 2011
10:45 pm
Hi haters – josh smith.
O'Brien
February 25th, 2011
10:45 pm
Al melted like hot butter right there. Easy 2 given up.
And Marvin gets blocked by Dorrell Wright.
Wright is A guy who signed for 3 years, $11 mil. he doesnt play the defense Marvin does, but he is a much better 3 pt shooter, and he makes less than half of marvin.
Melvin
February 25th, 2011
10:45 pm
Teague is very active to start the game…
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
10:46 pm
wont see Al doing any of that..
Josh better PF. would’ve traded him for a stud pg if we had not given extension.
Tremaine
February 25th, 2011
10:46 pm
It’s amazing how much better this team look with Teague on the floor.
SteveW
February 25th, 2011
10:46 pm
Teague sure looks good running with that small lineup – last missed jumper notwithstandinl
Melvin
February 25th, 2011
10:46 pm
Sub Hinrich for Marvin right now…
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
February 25th, 2011
10:46 pm
Marvin with lazy defense
terrell
February 25th, 2011
10:46 pm
Teague already better than Bibby. I dont care what anyone says.
SteveW
February 25th, 2011
10:47 pm
Wright lit us up last game
prison mike
February 25th, 2011
10:47 pm
damn josh calm down on these passes a minute.
O'Brien
February 25th, 2011
10:47 pm
Like Stinger said. hawks must keep Josh engaged, and get Al involved more
SteveW
February 25th, 2011
10:47 pm
Terrell and Tremaine – Co-sign – Still can’t figure out why LD hated him
prison mike
February 25th, 2011
10:48 pm
where is the and 1?????
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
10:48 pm
i like the push from Jeff.. miss or not.. force the issue. eventually you’ll get calls..
slimjr
February 25th, 2011
10:48 pm
prediction: Hawks go 0-3 against the Bulls during March Madness.. Lock it in……………..
ATL FAN
February 25th, 2011
10:48 pm
Obrien to answer ur 2nd question… Smoove
O'Brien
February 25th, 2011
10:48 pm
teague needs to make those shots although (although by pushing the ball, he put pressure on the defense, and Josh got the tip in).
Meanwhile, Josh is on FIYAH
terrell
February 25th, 2011
10:49 pm
Bibby was slowing this team down.
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
10:49 pm
ha.
they’ll still have something to say bout Smoove .. just wait.
prison mike
February 25th, 2011
10:49 pm
Lee is an elite scorer at his position, we’ll see how much he scores for the game.
Wabe
February 25th, 2011
10:49 pm
Teague’s court vision’s underrated.
He seems like more of a floor general than any other gaurd that handles the rock. He actually looks to quarterback the offense.
Melvin
February 25th, 2011
10:49 pm
Carlos,
The offensively challenge Josh Smith 8 of the Hawks 10 pts…
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
February 25th, 2011
10:50 pm
Smoove starting off hot.
SteveW
February 25th, 2011
10:50 pm
I wish LD would let Teague start, and Hinrich be a beast off the bench. I could deal with Teague and Hinrich getting 20+ minutes, and letting Jamal get back to that 2 spot, and letting JJ get a little more burn at 3.
Wabe
February 25th, 2011
10:50 pm
SteveW
February 25th, 2011
10:50 pm
“I wish LD would let Teague start, and Hinrich be a beast off the bench. I could deal with Teague and Hinrich getting 20+ minutes, and letting Jamal get back to that 2 spot, and letting JJ get a little more burn at 3.”
Co-sign.
ATL FAN
February 25th, 2011
10:51 pm
Teague is starting
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
10:51 pm
not as many jump shots love it..
w/ a team full of jump shoot 1st players.. having a (starting )pg who couldnt get by anyone spelled the death of us..
liking the shots @ the rim.. hopefully we’ll see more..
Big Ray
February 25th, 2011
10:51 pm
Defense starts at the point of attack. Between Hinrich (notoriously a defender of pgs) and Teague (good defensive potential) we will be better. If Drew continues to play Jamal huge minutes at the point, we’ll suffer.
Overlook Hilton Armstrong if you want. He just brought athleticism to our group of backup bigs, which did not have it before. Dude is “end of the bench”, but could be more for us. You never know. Not a savior, but hopefully somebody worth re-signing at some point. Hope he becomes everything Powell/Zaza/Collins aren’t (and Etan…ehhh).
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
10:51 pm
*shot
SteveW
February 25th, 2011
10:51 pm
Maybe the Hawks do go 0-3 versus the Bulls, but I like our chances alot more with Hinrich and Teague playing than Bibby and Mo’. Throw Wilkens in that playin’ mix to.
Booo!
February 25th, 2011
10:52 pm
Whew! Close call. AT&T Will be hearing from me. Really wanted this one on the DVR smh…Its not everyday that Teague starts and Kirk is making his first appearance in a Hawk Jersey!
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
10:52 pm
“Al .. who gives to Josh.”
it isnt like he doesnt get touches.
SteveW
February 25th, 2011
10:52 pm
Big Ray – Co-sign about Jamal at the point
prison mike
February 25th, 2011
10:52 pm
bs fouls right now.
drmaryb (*_*)
February 25th, 2011
10:52 pm
Adam Keefe (he was all white). Left here and played ‘91 till ‘93 for The Jazz.
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
10:52 pm
assert yourself Al..
Tremaine
February 25th, 2011
10:52 pm
SteveW- for some reason people think that Teague suppose to come in and be great despite getting little playing time. Would Horford and Josh be as good as they are now if they didn’t get playing time?
SteveW
February 25th, 2011
10:53 pm
Wow! Look at Josh
Melvin
February 25th, 2011
10:53 pm
Josh is all over the place this first qtr…
Wabe
February 25th, 2011
10:53 pm
First look at the newbie.
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
10:53 pm
Slim SHADY!!
ATL FAN
February 25th, 2011
10:53 pm
KIRK!!!!
prison mike
February 25th, 2011
10:53 pm
33333333333333333threeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Wabe
February 25th, 2011
10:54 pm
Not a bad first look.
Melvin
February 25th, 2011
10:54 pm
Kirk hit his first 3…. Trade validated….
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
10:54 pm
thats how you come in.. pulling..
SteveW
February 25th, 2011
10:54 pm
Tre’ – i know – he’s got to play